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Jesusita Fire Day 3
updated: May 08, 2009, 6:19 AM

by dedicated staff

This is the Jesusita Fire page with information from Thursday May 7th. The most recent updates are at the top of the page. You can read comments for May 7th at the bottom of the page or here.

There is a new page for information and comments on the Jesusita Fire for today - Sunday, May 10th. Click Here

Here are link to other day's news, photo and comment threads from the Jesusita Fire: (May 5) (May 6) (May 7) (May 8) (May 9)

Click for Santa Barbara, California Forecast
Click the banner to see temps, wind, and humidity from multiple locations.

6:00 a.m.

LA Times: 30,000 people are under evacuation order. New structures were shown on fire last night.

Above Santa Barbara, the fire was reported burning in the area of Gibraltar Road and east to Mountain Drive. Firefighters are reported as making a heroic stand at Foothill and San Roque to hold it off. There are reports of homes burned around the 800 block of Calle Laureles Street. Less information is available about what's happened west of the 154.

The Calle Real County Buildings are closed for Friday May 8th, 2009. County employees are to remain at home and available by their known phone numbers for call back and assignment to alternative work sites.

12:30 a.m.
It is very windy in Montecito, and the fire is visible in the hills.

12:15 a.m.
The warning area now extends to Fairview and down to the 101. Link

11:45 p.m.
The American Red Cross has established an additional evacuation shelter at the Recreation Center (RecCen) on the campus of the UCSB. The Dos Pueblos High School Evacuation Shelter is at capacity. Displaced persons are encouraged to head to the Red Cross Shelter at UCSB and not to Dos Pueblos High School. Take Highway 217 to the campus and follow the Emergency Shelter signs.

11:15 p.m.
Evacuation area extended all the way to Patterson above Cathedral Oaks. link

10:00 p.m.

The eastern flank of the fire is calm now after an earlier run towards Gibraltar, KEYT reports. The west side of the fire is burning in North San Antonio Creek.

9:18 p.m.

"There's just not enough to knock on every door," USFS fire official tells KEYT reporter about the amount of personnel available to handle evacuations. If you don't feel safe, consider leaving your home. Hwy. 154 will likely be used as a line to try to stop the fire. and homes on the west side of the highway are under evacuation warning.

9:12 p.m.

EOC: Hwy 154 closed at Hwy 101 in SB.

8:50 p.m.

Acreage now reported at 2,739, 10 percent containment. Preliminary homes damaged at 75.

8:40 p.m.

Indicative of the fire's move west, the evacuation order now includes all residences east of Hwy 154 bordered by Painted Cave Road and East Camino Cielo. Old San Marcos Road is now in the warning zone.

Comments in order of when they were received | (reverse order)

 COMMENT 26960 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:04 AM

Any word if homes on upper Ontare and Santa Teresita damaged?

 

 COMMENT 26961 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:09 AM

National Weather Service, discussion 3:55am:
north wind event will continue into Friday morning. Current bfl gradient is -5.9 and the smx-sba gradient (the best gradient for sundowner wind forecasting) is -5.5 both these are 2mb more offshore than at this time ydy. This increase in the low level push should compensate for the slight decrease in upper level support and expect warning level winds will continue today.

Extended the wind warnings and advisories to 900 am Friday and issued a new Wind Advisory for the central coast. 580dm heights and northerly offshore flow will again make for a day with highs in the 90s and a couple 100 or 101s thrown in as well.

Again the sba South Coast will see maximum temperatures in the 90 to 100 range as the hot air rushes down the Santa Ynez hills.

Continued windy tonight. Lows in the breezy areas as well as the foothills.

Upper and surface support weaken Friday. It will still be breezy but after the winds die down in the morning they will likely only return to advisory levels not warnings. Thickness also drops a little as well so look for a couple of degrees of cooling everywhere except the sba South Coast which will see a large drop into the lower to middle 80s.

A little trough zips through the Pacific northwest over the weekend. It will not affect the weather much except that on Saturday the trough will knock heights down and cool things down some. Northwest flow aloft and north pressure gradients still exist so there will be some breezes just much weaker than currently.

 

 EDONE agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:32 AM

This might sound too obvious, but it didn't occur to us until just now. If you are worried about your home, call your answering machine and see if it picks up.

We hope it does! Hang in there everyone,

 

 COMMENT 26964 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:33 AM

Calling your answering machine might give folks even more of a scare, since it's likely that power is out up there?

 

 EDONE agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:38 AM

Good point. So, if it does, you are safe. If it doesn't it could be just because the power is out.

 

 COMMENT 26966 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:46 AM

The answering machine only verifies that your house is still there if it's an actual machine hooked to your phone. If you have a remote answering service, it will still take messages even if your house is gone. May seem obvious, but some Tea Fire folks didn't realize that.

 

 COMMENT 26967 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:48 AM

answering machine worked! Just looked so terrible last night at the top of the hill that we are prepared for the worst. Thanks.

 

 COMMENT 26968 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:53 AM

Is there a good news source to stream online?

Don't have a radio handy at work.

 

 COMMENT 26969 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:07 AM

Just heard this over the aviation radio:

It is currently unknown whether or not tankers are headed back into the area and how many. They are in the process of checking the winds in the area for turbulence and should know tanker status within about 30 minutes.

(123.025 for those with a scanner... though I'm not sure exactly who this is)

 

 COMMENT 26972 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:21 AM

Fire seems to be further up the mountains today, burning a canyon towards what looks like the summit of La Cumbre. Wind downtown at Mission x State is shifting N / NE.

 

 COMMENT 26974 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:24 AM

@DUZER: You can stream KTYD online at http://www.ktyd.com/common/stw_player.php

 

 COMMENT 26977 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:45 AM

one of the copter feeds is showing a melted Ventura County #54 fire truck on Spyglass Ridge

the pictures show that the valley between Tunnel, Spyglass, and down to the top of Alamar got completely overrun - total burnout

right now, it looks like west flank of Cathedral is still burning, not much going on below that

 

 COMMENT 26978 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:51 AM

Many member hotel properties of the Greater Santa Barbara Lodging & Restaurant Association are hosting Jesusita Fire evacuees and victims. As both during and in the aftermath of last year’s Tea Fire, member properties are working with affected residents to offer significantly reduced rates while addressing some of the most pressing needs- additional beds, pets, kitchens, and possible long-term occupancy.
Current known properties involved are Fess Parker’s DoubleTree Resort and Cabrillo Inn at the Beach (waterfront), The Franciscan Inn and Casa Del Mar (West Beach), Santa Barbara Hotel Group (five properties across town), Holiday Inn Express- Carpinteria (a pet wing!), Hotel Santa Barbara (downtown). Many others of our 70+ member properties are undoubtedly involved but have simply been unable to pass along the information.
Evacuees should clearly identify themselves as such to hotel properties. Our member properties are committed to helping our local residents and community get through and recover from this unfortunate event.

 

 COMMENT 26979 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:00 AM

We were among the first evacuees on Tuesday and have been at the Pepper Tree Hotel (SB Hotel Group) since then. They have been EXTRAORDINARY to all the evacuees here including lifting the no pets policy. This is helping us feel a bit of normalcy. I will highly recommend this hotel to anyone in the future.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:01 AM

It's all about wind, so I've been checking out sources of realtime info. The wind direction determines where the fire will spread, and the wind strength determines how fast it moves. There are three sensors in the hills listed on Weather Underground in the long list of sensors near the bottom of the page. La Cumbre peak sensor (APRSWXNET La Cambre Peak) might be showing 10x the actual speed, but the direction seems right based on what I've seen of the smoke direction. The other two are RAWS LPF02 PORTABLE and San Marcos Pass, on 154 at thePainted Cave and Camino Cielo intersections. The wind direction we don't want is North, because that's what makes for down-slope fire growth toward town and can become full-fledged Sundowners with hot dry winds coming all the way down the mountains and passes. The latest aviation forecast calls for winds above 1000 very strong from the North until noon, and KSBY has shown some helicopter video of Arlington Peak showing strong North winds right now.

 

 COMMENT 26981 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:03 AM

Once again, KEYT fails to caption fire coverage. Deaf and severely hard of hearing people are left out of knowing what is happening.

 

 COMMENT 26983 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:08 AM

John,
I was following these same feeds yesterday and predicted the 3 o'clock flare up. You really need to look at all of the rapid fire data. I am in Goleta, and I saw the build up yesterday. The change started around noon. That is when I began monitoring the winds via www.wunderground.com . Driving in, Gaviota - Goleta was much more calm than it has been in days.

 

 COMMENT 26984 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:11 AM

None of the local radio stations are carrying the Governor's address? Now ten minutes into it, correct? And nothing about the pre-address. Where can we hear it?

 

 COMMENT 26985 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:12 AM

they're running behind. hasn't started yet.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:14 AM

Lumberjane, please keep sharing anything you find. SB Airport's hourly update as of 8:53am reported wind 8mph from 350 degrees magnetic (just west of north, which of course is 360 or 0 degrees).

 

 COMMENT 26987 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:17 AM

20-30 minute delay on press update.

 

 COMMENT 26988 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:18 AM

OK, stay positive!! I am guessing our fellow Santa Barbarians in positions like fire, police, medical and media are all doing everything they can to protect us and get us information. Sometimes no news is good news, right?

Let's think good thoughts and hope that all of their hard work underway right now to get the fire under control pays off if/when the wind picks up later today.

Thank you firefighters and all other emergency folks!

 

 COMMENT 26989 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:20 AM

And of course a HUGE thanks to John W and all the other regulars on EdHat getting us the best eyewitness reports and steering us to the best sources of information...

 

 COMMENT 26990 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:22 AM

The iWindSurf forecast model doesn't seem to suggest as big an afternoon uptick of wind today.

These models are semi-accurate for the coastal area but don't know if they can be extrapolated to the microclime in the foothills we seem to have. The leadbetter model stays mostly onshore and below 12knots.

 

 COMMENT 26991 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:22 AM

I will post as I see the changes. Yesterday I noticed the wind creeping, so I decided to watch the rapid fire data and saw a slow increase. It was pretty apparent around 1/1:30 that the winds would hit around 3. All you have to do is notice the changes in speed. They will gradually increase. Most of the stronger winds were coming out of the west, but if you watch continually you could see that the winds were kinda rotating back and forth.

 

 COMMENT 26992 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:22 AM

What's up with KEYT.com? There fire updates are terrible and never up to date. Thanks to Edhat and KTYD for keeping us informed. Radio is where it's at!

 

 COMMENT 26993 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:24 AM

AND, I kept checking John's post's. Collectively, all of the info was there. You have been great John Wiley.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:28 AM

The aviation forecast calls for wind shear at 1000 feet over the airport, and from what the smoke is doing that looks about right. In other words, the fire at Arlington Peak is being blown across town and out over the channel while below the winds are slower. Here at 154&101 it's flat calm. That sort of wind shear makes for interesting flying, and that along with smoke is probably why we don't hear a full fixed wing aerial assault. Having said that, I just now heard what sounds like the spotter plane over the peak.

 

 COMMENT 26995 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:37 AM

Does anyone know anything about a purported fire north of Goleta??

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:41 AM

SBC Public Works still claims to have the most current road closure info (no change since 8:41pm yesterday), so there's the link in today's comments in case it helps.

Wind here 101@154 is now light from the south, so the smoke might begin to clear enough for me to get a look at the fire. If so, I'll post new pics.

 

 COMMENT 26997 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:42 AM

The live video feed and KNX audio broadcast is available again.

https://www.gotowebinar.com/register/806710584

The video is coming from la Cumbre Plaza area. Honestly, there is not a lot to see at this moment, as winds are calm in the area (a little tree top on the right side of the screen has been a great guage of wind levels) and the smoke is obscuring the view. But it's still a simple way to stream KNX news, and it can host 1000 viewers.
Good for people who can't get easy access to view the fire in person.

 

 COMMENT 26998 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:42 AM

Remember to keep WATER CONSUMPTION and electricity usage at a minimum during major fires.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:49 AM

KSBY's chopper feed just showed fire retardant drops along Camino Cielo, between there and the fire behind Arlington Peak, so maybe they have hand crews on the ridge and will try to put out the north flank or at least keep it from cresting.

 

 COMMENT 27002 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:59 AM

Santa Barbara City College's Main Campus at 721 Cliff Drive is open today, Thursday, May 7 and classes are in session.

However, SBCC's Continuing Education Division's Schott Center, 310 West Padre St. in Santa Barbara, is closed today due to poor air quality from the Jesusita Fire.

 

 COMMENT 27003 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:06 AM

The Jodi House Brain Injury Support Center's Hard Hat Party scheduled for this evening has been postponed until Thursday, May 21st, from 5-7 pm, due to the fire. It will be held at the same location: 625 Chapala Street (site of the former Chad's Restaurant).

Please call 805 563-2882 for more information.

 

 SUSIECHAOS agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:06 AM

Thank you, lemonjelly! I watched the entire blowup yesterday on your webinar. What an experience--kind of surreal watching the flames move down the mountain over an hour or so. Very informative and scary!

 

 COMMENT 27006 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:12 AM

Just saw a fixed wing tanker drop retardant near the summit of what I guess is Arlington Peak (per J. Wiley). Wind at Mission x State downtown is light S/SW. Not too much smoke, earlier there were a number of fire engines headed up Mission, presumably going towards Mission Canyon and Larel Canyon.

Big thanks to Lemonjelly for posting the video stream again. I used that video feed yesterday to determine when to go home and start preparing to evacuate. I didn't have a minute to spare, having the video feed made all the difference.

 

 COMMENT 27007 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:15 AM

Maintaining the water levels in the reservoirs is essential for the fire department in order to fight the fire. Please conserve water as much as possible within and outside the evacuation zones. For example, sprinkler systems should be shut off. If you evacuate, please turn off your water service to avoid potential loss of water pressure in the affected area.

City crews have turned off some water service in the mandatory evacuation areas. Residents in the evacuation area can anticipate their water service to be off when they return home.

 

 COMMENT 27008 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:24 AM

Does anyone know where to access online that map with the fire boundaries (shown briefly on KEYT, and in the background of the press conference)?
Also, up here at 154@Painted Cave, the winds are very light. East Camino Cielo@Painted Cave has a complete road closure. No space for even a bike to get through (and no real good view of the fire anyway, all the way along Painted Cave Rd. so don't bother driving up the pass to be a looky-loo).

 

 COMMENT 27010 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:27 AM

I am not sure if our edhat family knows that "Ed" live in the Mission Canyon area. Ed, I want to thank-you for keeping edhat going for the public benefit during this personally stressful time. May the edhat force be with you and I hope your home and family stays safe.

 

 COMMENT 27011 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:28 AM

concur w/ gingerbee...where the F is the map?

 

 SUSIECHAOS agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:33 AM

If someone gets the chance, can they take a picture of the kiosk map and post it?

 

 COMMENT 27013 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:33 AM

Great pics on LA Times today And sad as well as I hear the Bryant home did not make it ...

 

 COMMENT 27015 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:35 AM

la times

Sorry about that people - don't know what happened.

Great pics on LA Times, and I was saying that the Bryant home did not make it.

 

 COMMENT 27016 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:35 AM

I came across the following "fire radiative measurements" map on Twitter. It's no substitute for a hand-drawn map of the fire areas, but maybe there is some information here that will be useful to some people.

http://tinyurl.com/d42vsh

 

 COMMENT 27017 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:35 AM

for the map just google Jesusita Fire Map.

 

 COMMENT 27019 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:39 AM

Here's a good map of the evac area.

http://tinyurl.com/c2h48k

It can be found from: http://www.countyofsb.org/ceo/dept0.aspx

 

 COMMENT 27020 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:42 AM

The map/download at countyofsb does have a perimeter. But it's not the same as the one at the kiosks (like the ones we saw for the Gap Fire). A cursory google search hasn't been too successful. So if you find a link to that official map, please post. During the Gap Fire, they were posted regularly on Inciweb, but I've seen no report of this fire there--it's not even on their dropdown menu.

 

 SUSIECHAOS agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:45 AM

I really like that radiative map (MODIS). Very interesting! Thank you!

 

 SUSIECHAOS agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:46 AM

Thank you, Sone! And thanks to everyone trying to get maps for us. You're all the greatest!

 

 EDONE agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:47 AM

Here is the fire perimeter map in an image format. The red area is the fire perimeter. The map is the most recent (dated this morning), but the fire perimeter is yesterday at 4:00pm

 

 COMMENT 27024 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:47 AM

Sadly - I just got a warning from an IT friend to be cautious with your google searches for fire map info.

"Believe it or not, there are virus sites out there that are coming up in google with searches looking for fire maps of the Jesusita Fire. Please roll over the link and look at the bottom left corner of the browser to get the URL. If it is not a county, city, or government site…I would be suspicious. One was a blog that redirected to a pornography site that tried to install applications."

 

 COMMENT 27025 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:52 AM

The map at countyofsb shows no fire through Montrose, Williams, or Ben Lomond. Are there verified reports of homes lost on those roads?

 

 EDONE agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:56 AM

As we said, this is the map as of 4:00pm. A lot happened after that time.

 

 COMMENT 27027 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:59 AM

Website set up for Jesusita info.
http://jesusitafire.org/

 

 COMMENT 27028 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:01 AM

From my experience with Zaca Fire public info, official maps lag by many, many hours. The map at the kiosks right now will be from 4PM last night. The FD will be making a new map, as of about 6am this morning--which of course will be quite different from 4PM last night. The new map will be out publically, I expect, around noon, officials probably saw it at 8AM....but, again, it is almost obsolete right as it is posted.

 

 SUSIECHAOS agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:03 AM

There's a good story in the Independent from an hour or so ago with eyewitness descriptions of fire damage: http://www.independent.com/news/2009/may/07/jesusita-fire-damage-report/

 

 COMMENT 27031 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:07 AM

All of a sudden, there are frequent red helos (with the hoses hanging down) flying low over us (154@Painted Cave). They are flying southeast (from Cachuma to fire??).

 

 COMMENT 27032 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:09 AM

In case anyone missed it, La Cumbre Jr High is closing for the day - air quality issues - and wants parents to come get their children.

Verified on SB School District website.

 

 COMMENT 27035 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:32 AM

View from UCSB campus point @ 9AM this morning

More...

 

 COMMENT 27037 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:47 AM

Heard the western part of the fire was moving west into Barger Canyon

 

 COMMENT 27038 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:07 PM

JLGINSB, where'd you hear this? Any other reports from the western front?

 

 COMMENT 27039 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:09 PM

Santa Barbara fire: 'This is not a normal day'? - 2 hours ago

The Jesusita fire near Santa Barbara is moving west from Mission Canyon to Barger Canyon, said Capt. David Sadecki of the Santa Barbara County Fire ...Los Angeles Times

 

 COMMENT 27040 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:13 PM

kcal9 doing a new conf about injured fire fighters right now.

 

 COMMENT 27042 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:21 PM

Queen...that is what LA Times is reporting on their website. I read it around 11 a.m. and article claimed info came from county fire officials.

 

 COMMENT 27043 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:24 PM

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/05/santa-barbara-fire-4.html

 

 COMMENT 27044 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:25 PM

what ever happened to the super-scooper planes?
they can fill up quickly on the ocean or large enough lake and drop very quickly?
I grew up in the san roque neighborhood and know those hills like the back of my hand.
living up at Tahoe it has been GREAT havingt all the information on edhat.

 

 COMMENT 27046 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:29 PM

FEMA Fire Management Assistance Declaration number 2817 declared on May 06, 2009

http://www.fema.gov/news/event.fema?id=11428

 

 COMMENT 27048 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:31 PM

Are there any eyewitness accounts of the fire moving into Barger Canyon? If it is in Barger Canyon then that means it has gone West of Ontare, Morada, and Northridge, albeit much further up the hill.

 

 COMMENT 27049 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:31 PM

Choppers are working both East and West ends of the fire. It appears that the East end has reached the Tea Fira burn area.
Fire is moving up the mountain, and on the East side is now above the high-voltage towers. Slow moving for now.

 

 COMMENT 27050 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:33 PM

I think it's inappropriate to criticize the preparedness tactics of the very agencies whose help we desperately need to fight the ongoing fire.

 

 COMMENT 27051 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:35 PM

Donations of Animal Crates Requested

A large number of crates are needed to assist with sheltering the animals evacuated due to the fire. Please consider donating medium to large-sized animal crates by bringing them to the Santa Barbara Humane Society at 5399 Overpass Road.

 

 COMMENT 27053 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:39 PM

Call for animal crates: This request just put out by the EOC (12:26 PM):

Donations of Animal Crates Requested

A large number of crates are needed to assist with sheltering the animals evacuated due to the fire. Please consider donating medium to large-sized animal crates by bringing them to the Santa Barbara Humane Society at 5399 Overpass Road.

 

 COMMENT 27054 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:42 PM

You can watch live streaming video footage of the fire from the vantage point of the rooftop of Make It Work offices above The Habit in the La Cumbre Plaza at www.makeitwork.com - click the Jesusita Fire link and follow directions to the live video footage feed. Currently it is viewing Catherdral Peak (mid frame), Arlington Peak (low right) and La Cumbre Peak (high right). We are working on more camera angles for a more comprehensive look at the burn areas so check back often.

 

 COMMENT 27055 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:43 PM

Barger Peak and what I call Barger Canyon (where Bargar Canyon Rd goes up) on the map. Hard to believe it went this far West, as it appears to me that the fire is just on the Eastern flank of Barger Peak.

link to bigger map

 

 COMMENT 27056 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:47 PM

contrary to some of the maps and the verbal descriptions of the mandatory evac boundaries, calle noguera is still IN the mandatory evac area. cops are not happy with the public information about the boundaries.

 

 COMMENT 27057 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:52 PM

My bro lives off N Ontare, fire has NOT gone into Barger Cyn. It is running up the West side of Arlinton Peak to Monkeys tooth along teh arroyo burro trail.

 

 COMMENT 27058 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:54 PM

Any way to post links to BIGGER, clearer versions of these maps (posted by Pope & Edone)? Very difficult to make anything out as posted.

 

 COMMENT 27059 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:57 PM

KCAl has live chopper video again.
looks like a flare up heading toward catherdral Peak
http://cbs2.com/

 

 EDONE agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 12:58 PM

Two years ago, Edhat filmed the entire route of HWY 192 for a video on Youtube.

We invite anyone who wants to annotate the video to show relevant fire landmarks.

 

 COMMENT 27062 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:01 PM

Huge plume of smoke just below and west of La Cumbra Peak. Came out of nowhere.

 

 COMMENT 27063 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:02 PM

Hey can you all start a separate blog for the blame game stuff. keep this blog for current info so those not interested in the finger pointing can avoid it.

This time yesterday the winds were beginning to move, right now all is looking good.

 

 COMMENT 27065 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:05 PM

The county has a map of evacuation areas as of 7am. This is different from what the Independent is showing.

http://tinyurl.com/dzosft

 

 COMMENT 27066 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:09 PM

I'm with LumberJane. Could we keep this (amazing) resource to current information only, while homes and lives are still in harm's way?

Plenty of time for second-guessing and armchair quarterbacking after the fire is contained.

 

 COMMENT 27067 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:13 PM

There were 5 to 7 spot fires along the western edge of Cathedral Peak, below East Camino, this morning at 7 am. I am wondering (since I can't see the view everyone does from SB) if those have joined forces and created the big burst in the past hour?? For those who CAN see (and I can't stream the video, so am counting on TV and written reports), does that Western edge of the fire seem to be moving west towards Painted Cave and 154?

 

 COMMENT 27068 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:15 PM

apparently our friends (who were staying with my mom and stepdad on the mesa last night), who live on Tunnel Road, their house survived. Thank God. So two did another friends of ours, who live right near there. Thank you, firefighters!

 

 EDONE agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:19 PM

Yep, let's try to keep this focused. Hold your critical thoughts until everyone is back in their homes.

Also, let's try to avoid posting long urls and over-sized images. The long urls blow up the page on some browsers (iphones, too)

Please use www.tinyurl.com to reduce your urls.

Thanks.

 

 COMMENT 27071 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:26 PM

County animal shelter on Overpass Road needs medium and large animal crates.

 

 COMMENT 27072 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:28 PM

Fire activity has increase on both fronts. The wind keeps changing direction. Most of the fire movement is upslope. Lots of choppers but no large fixed-wing.

 

 COMMENT 27073 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:32 PM

Wind has started shifting W-NW at Mission x State downtown about 1:00pm. At the same time there was a big flareup near the peak that's been burning since this morning. Big plume of brown/pink smoke. Smoke went high and started drifting south high over the city. Clearly the wind is shifting W up there as well.

 

 COMMENT 27074 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:33 PM

Gingerbee: I have a good view of the western flank from UCSB. Judging from the smoke (no flames visible today) the fire is predominantly in two locations on this side. 1. high on the western flank of Arlington peak & 2. low down on the western flank of Arlington and in the drainage on its western side. The upper fire is producing a very large plume. The lower one is not as active. It's westward progress doesn't appear to me to be very fast.

 

 COMMENT 27076 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:34 PM

wind is primarily WSW right now with minor shifting

 

 COMMENT 27077 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:35 PM

County animal shelter is also requesting food. I didn't get the whole list but I did hear

Pedigree Dog Food (small bites) Friskies Canned Cat food

Both are about $20 at Costco

 

 COMMENT 27078 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:42 PM

A friend posted damage report for SBBG on FaceBook...can anyone confirm a source or other info?

 

 COMMENT 27079 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:47 PM

RE: SBBG:

This is from a friend that works there:
"The Botanic Garden has sustained some damage including at least one structure burned, but extent is not yet known. Apparently Director's house on Tunnel, owned by the Garden, burned."

 

 COMMENT 27080 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 01:52 PM

A friend just biked up to Las Canoas Lane (not Las Canoas Road) to see if his home was still there. The fire had come across the yard and right up to his home. Fireman apparently had busted down his gate and successfully saved his home. He says only one home was lost on Las Canoas Lane and it was at the west end on the mountain side.

 

 COMMENT 27081 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:03 PM

Anyone hear anything about Franchesci Park area? I saw some smoke up near there last night, and KEYT was saying something about it (of course, they said a lot of things last night...not very often accurate), but I haven't heard about that area since then.

 

 COMMENT 27083 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:15 PM

KCAL 9 has the live chopper feed up again.
[ http://cbs2.com/ ]
brother in San Roque stayed at house, says light breeze near Peabody area. canyon hilsides where Alamar dead ends north of foothilll below Cheltenham is burned.
you can hear the pilot occasionally

 

 COMMENT 27084 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:18 PM

pope-wife reporting from Cineguitas saying the spine between Arlington Peak and Cathedral Peak is aflame. This is the hiking trail you take between the two peaks on the way to La Cumbre Peak.

Also very vigorous in the canyon between Arlington Peak and Barger Peak. Logic seems this Canyon is the west fork of San Roque Canyon, but maybe this is what the FD is calling Barger Canyon?

 

 COMMENT 27085 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:18 PM

fixed wing craft are back.
tankers just a drop.

 

 COMMENT 27086 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:19 PM

Does anyone have a link to more info about fire damage at the Botanic Garden? Thanks!

 

 COMMENT 27087 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:22 PM

Was just able to get to our home on Santa Teresita. Fortunately ALL homes on Ontare, Morada, Santa Teresita Rd/Way or Francisco are SAFE (as of now). However, the fire got to the back mountain side backyard of the dead end of Santa Teresita Rd. Looking across the canyon toward Jesusita Lane, there are many houses destroyed. I was told that Jesusita itself was saved but going up further many destroyed houses can be seen. Also, reportedly 3 robberies have occurred in the area I mentioned at the beginning of this post. There is now a sheriff's deputy assigned to the area patrolling. Flames are still above area in mountains but if the winds behave hopefully they can keep dropping water as a deterrent.

 

 COMMENT 27088 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:28 PM

This note was circulated on a natural history collections list-serve this am.

"For those concerned about the Santa Barbara Botanic Garden, please be aware that the Garden sustained significant damage from the Jesusita Fire that has made national news. As of the morning of May 6, several
structures were lost including the director's home, a historic structure used by the horticulture staff for offices and staff, and at least one lath-house. Based on comments received from the Fire Department staff
assigned to the Garden, the other structures, including our Library, Herbarium, and other staff offices, among others appear, to be "OK", but no one from the Garden has been permitted into the fire zone to make an
inspection. It will be at least several days before anyone will be able to assess the condition of the Garden. Currently our phone system and email server are without power - it will not be possible to call by phone or to send an email to the sbbg.org address."

An unknown number of homes have been lost in Mission Canyon and elseshere, and we are humbled by the experience, but we are deeply moved by the enormous, truly heroic effort of fire fighters and strike teams from throughout the State of California who continue to arrive and provide assistance."

Dieter Wilken

 

 COMMENT 27089 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:32 PM

We received this a little bit ago.

"For those concerned about the Santa Barbara Botanic Garden, please be
aware that the Garden sustained significant damage from the Jesusita
Fire that has made national news. As of the morning of May 6, several
structures were lost including the director's home, a historic structure
used by the horticulture staff for offices and staff, and at least one
lath-house. Based on comments received from the Fire Department staff
assigned to the Garden, the other structures, including our Library,
Herbarium, and other staff offices, among others appear, to be "OK", but
no one from the Garden has been permitted into the fire zone to make an
inspection. It will be at least several days before anyone will be able
to assess the condition of the Garden. Currently our phone system and
email server are without power - it will not be possible to call by
phone or to send an emal to the sbbg.org address."

An unknown number of homes have been lost in Mission Canyon and
elseshere, and we are humbled by the experience, but we are deeply moved
by the enormous, truly heroic effort of fire fighters and strike teams
from throughout the State of California who continue to arrive and
provide assistance."

 

 COMMENT 27090 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:34 PM

Q&A:

To the person who wanted to know about Francheschi Park, a fire dept spokesperson who was stationed near the tennis club, said he did not think it had gotten that far.

To the person who wanted the pet supply list, here it is:

Santa Barbara Humane Society, items are particularly needed:

Pedigree small crunchy bites dry dog food Pedigree chunky beef and chicken canned dog food Johnny Cat Original cal litter (unscented and non-clumping) Whiska’s dry cat food Friskies mixed grill canned cat food

The Santa Barbara Humane Society is located at 5399 Overpass Road, and is open from 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Monday through Saturday. For further information call 805-964-4777

 

 COMMENT 27091 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:34 PM

Sorry I hurt some feelings by pointing out that a fleet of airbombers stationed at SBA will prevent fires from getting out of control.

Right now everyone is thinking about fires, so now seems to be a good time to suggest a method to prevent the next fire. I believe everyone who reads the posts here can multi task and think about more than one issue at a time.

 

 COMMENT 27092 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:34 PM

Anyone have any news about homes burned in Mission Canyon? I live on Ben Lomond and have read that some homes on that street burned; trying to find out if mine is one of them, thanks for any info at all.

 

 COMMENT 27093 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:35 PM

Just shot a pic looking east and appears to be a new flareup neark Skofield. It's hard to tell where exactly since I am more west, but definitely flareup on eastern flank. billowing smoke, no visible flames.

 

 COMMENT 27094 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:50 PM

There are about 8 firetrucks staged at the huge 180 degree turn on Gilbrialtar(sp) road below the powerlines. To the west of them is a still unburned area, to the east is burned.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:50 PM

I've just uploaded to my Photo Page a wide shot taken an hour ago combined with last evening's shot. It's thrilling to see the difference! Now if the Sundowners leave us alone, this thing could be mopped up in a couple of days.

 

 COMMENT 27096 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 02:55 PM

The winds are looking good. We have been getting some minor gusts, but things are different from yesterday. I have been checking Ventura and Oxnard as well. They have had some gradual changes, but nothing major.

 

 COMMENT 27098 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:04 PM

looks like a fire running up between the rock layers west side of arlgtn pk. hoping for low or no wind to stifle movement and let them knock it down from the air.

 

 COMMENT 27099 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:07 PM

MTD Buses on Detour Due to Jesusita Fire
Due to the Jesusita Fire some MTD bus routes will be operating on detours. These detours will
change according to the progression of the fire. Please contact an MTD Customer Service
Representative at (805) 963-3366 for the most current detour information.

 

 COMMENT 27100 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:08 PM

tunnel road drainage is burning and making a run up the hill

 

 COMMENT 27101 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:09 PM

woah... big wind comin' from the NW

 

 COMMENT 27102 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:10 PM

that is above 7 falls

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:12 PM

Aviation forecast is calling for wind shear again (North 46mph at 1000 feet elevation, NW 320 degrees 17mph surface) over the airport starting at 7pm. This close to the forecast event, these are usually pretty accurate. Basically, a Sundowner. :(

 

 COMMENT 27104 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:13 PM

We've started a new thread for communication and preparedness questions and concerns. We've moved some of the earlier comments there. You can find it here


Thanks.

 

 COMMENT 27105 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:14 PM

I am seeing some bigger gusts now in the back country. temps are increasing slightly and humidity is down to 10% or so.

 

 COMMENT 27106 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:19 PM

CHP website has had a report of fire since early this morning, still is on their site, but now further information. Anyone have the heads-up on that?

 

 COMMENT 27107 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:20 PM

er, NO updated ingo

 

 COMMENT 27109 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:24 PM

For OICU812

My experience with the CHP website is that they do not update for major events like fires.
Once posted, it will stay posted until it just goes away.

 

 COMMENT 27110 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:24 PM

Saw huge flames and black smoke in area above seven falls about 10 min ago (3:10 p.m.) Pretty high up. New flareup.

 

 COMMENT 27112 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:36 PM

In light of the Jesusita fire in Santa Barbara and its potential impacts on water supplies, Carpinteria Valley Water District and Montecito Water District are asking their customers to use water for essential uses only. Reservoir storage levels have been adversely affected by the extreme customer demand resulting from the very hot, dry weather. The Districts are asking customers to postpone such uses as landscape irrigation, washing of vehicles and other outdoor water uses until the Jesusita fire threat has passed. Water supply updates will be issued as the situation progresses.

 

 COMMENT 27113 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 03:40 PM

Just noticed that they expanded the Evacuation WARNING area further to the South-East, it now goes past Montecito to Quinientos. From http://www.countyofsb.org :

The Evacuation Warning Area has been expanded to the Southeast and now includes: La Cumbre Road (Western Boundary) to State Street, State Street to De La Vina, De La Vina to Anapamu, Anapamu to Anacapa, Anacapa South to De La Guerra, De La Guerra to Milpas, Milpas South to Quinientos Street (New Boundary), Quinientos Street to Clifton Street to Barker Pass, Barker Pass to Hwy 192 (Sycamore Canyon Road), Hwy 192 (Sycamore Canyon Road) West to Stanwood Drive.

 

 COMMENT 27115 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:05 PM

Just took this from the side of the mesa 10 min. ago. Looks like 7 Falls.

http://tinyurl.com/c2tkam

 

 COMMENT 27116 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:06 PM

I feel like I'm holding my breath.

 

 COMMENT 27117 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:08 PM

near shadow hills marker ..... at 1:30 it was 93 deg now up to 101+

 

 COMMENT 27118 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:09 PM

I too feel like I am holding my breath. It's the countdown to sundown!

 

 COMMENT 27119 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:13 PM

the winds have shifted and most are coming from the north now.

 

 COMMENT 27120 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:14 PM

Lots of smoke and some orange flames on the west flank. Wind is picking up from the west, fire moving uphill.

 

 COMMENT 27121 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:14 PM

arroyo burro trail blazing now on the west edge. 2 hot spots and the wind looks more northerly [blowing toward the ocean] now

 

 COMMENT 27122 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:15 PM

Winds are changing and now blowing smoke into downtown. Larger chunks of ash coming down too.

 

 COMMENT 27123 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:18 PM

Large chunks of ash raining down near the beachfront around Cesar Chavez

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:35 PM

Looks like the bigger "crane" type choppers like the one I just posted to my photo page working way East are now working near the southwest perimeter close to Foothill, so there must still be hotspots on the edge of town. The smaller choppers are going further into the foothills. Winds starting to pick up now 101@154, mostly still westerly. Smoke on the peaks starting to lie down toward the southeast.

 

 COMMENT 27126 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:43 PM

Barring any unforeseen circumstances caused by the Jesusita Fire, Santa
Barbara City College’s Main Campus (721 Cliff Drive) and Wake Center
(300 N. Turnpike Road) will be open this evening, Thursday, May 7, and
tomorrow, Friday, May 8, for classes.

At this time, it is expected that SBCC’s Continuing Education
Division’s Schott Center (310 W. Padre St.) will continue to be closed
on Friday May 8 due to poor air quality and will re-open on Monday, May
11.

Students are encouraged to check the college Web site at www.sbcc.edu
for updates.

 

 COMMENT 27127 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:45 PM

Assuming it's unlikely that the mandatory evac area will be moved east of Garden Street tonight?

I understand cautiousness, but it's annoying not being able to take a vehicle into Olive, Prospect, or Grand to get possessions out -- though they are letting people in on foot. Anyone else having problems with this? Seems like a lot of people are still holed up within the evac zone near the Mission and Lower Riviera...

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:52 PM

Sundowner seems to be starting. Massive blast of smoke down the slope on the upper west perimeter just now. Big choppers taking water had to circle and wait for it to shift back to the east. Downtown is going to get lots of smoke if this keeps up.

 

 COMMENT 27130 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:53 PM

My observations from the Rose Garden about an hour ago. There was a flare up with big flames Mission Canyon or just to the east. But, the helicopters were ignoring it and going further east. That must be where the big fight is now (or has been all day).

The wind was light and blowing up the canyon. It sure is hot now, but not too much wind. Hold your breath and your wind.

 

 COMMENT 27131 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 04:59 PM

The temperature has increased 10 degrees in the last hour. I just had a reading of 98 degrees at the Page Youth Center.

 

 COMMENT 27132 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:03 PM

actually the temps have come down a few degrees. Upper San Roque station has read of 74 deg believe it or not.

 

 COMMENT 27134 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:08 PM

Car in the shade reads 93, weatherstation in the sun reads 100.8 (lower west side/side of mesa)

 

 COMMENT 27135 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:10 PM

www.wunderground.com has all of the weather station and wind info you need. good luck and good night.

 

 EDONE agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:12 PM

Link to the weather underground site from the banner at the top of our Fire news page.

 

 COMMENT 27137 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:19 PM

Scanner traffic indicates that law enforcement is gathering at Foothill and Ontare. Wind appears out of the NW and the choppers are dropping water on visible fire on the west flank now headed downhill.

 

 COMMENT 27138 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:24 PM

Full evacuation of Alamar in progress.

 

 COMMENT 27139 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:30 PM

Clarification...an evacuation order has been requested but not approved. Law enforcement staging in the area.

 

 COMMENT 27140 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:33 PM

Just read the L.A Times. Strong sundowner winds 40MPH+ are forecast for late this afternoon into tomorrow morning. The Times states that conditions are so bad that the winds could drive the fire right into downtown.

A customer of mine just informed me the he received a reverse 911 evacuation warning. He lives on the corner of Milpas and Mason.

If the L.A Times is right Mission Canyon and a good chunk of the Riviera is toast.

 

 COMMENT 27141 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:34 PM

Randevan, my bro is just west of Alamar.
near Peabody, that area already evac'd.not many people around .
where exactly do you mean?

 

 COMMENT 27142 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:35 PM

Field officers are making contact with area residents and advising them to evacuate.

 

 COMMENT 27144 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:38 PM

NBC news just did a 3 minute spot on the national broadcast. It's going to be bad for business in Santa Barbara.. made it sound like the whole place goes up in flames every 6 months.

 

 COMMENT 27145 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:38 PM

live chopper video from foxLA: http://media.myfoxla.com/live/2/

 

 COMMENT 27146 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:40 PM

Evacuation Alamar to State and Ontare to State. Hard closure.

 

 COMMENT 27147 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:43 PM

Clearview, I don't want to start a war, but would you mind being more diplomatic with your opinionizing? Thanks for the news via LA Times, but you're talking about people's homes (including some of OURS) when you glibly toss off about the Riviera being "toast."

Not helpful.

 

 COMMENT 27148 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:45 PM

www.ksby.com has some live aerial footage that is pretty intense. The fire is burning up the ridge. It looks like it has gotten into some unpopulated areas and they are letting it burn.

 

 COMMENT 27149 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:52 PM

"made it sound like the whole place goes up in flames every 6 months"... but sadly it is kinda true.

gap - July 2008
tea - Nov 2008
jesuita - May 2009

 

 COMMENT 27150 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:53 PM

Looks like the fire is burning near the top of the range now. Check out helicopter video feeds at

http://dmz.up-south.com/la.html

 

 COMMENT 27151 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 05:59 PM

Winds in downtown are now picking up strength. They're out of the northwest at about 12 mph. This is almost exactly what happened yesterday, only 2 hours later. Temperature is 85 degrees, about what it was this time yesterday.

There seems to be an inversion layer of some kind keeping the smoke lower and flattened out. This will be trouble when the fire picks back up in an hour and heavy smoke stays close to the ground instead of rising.

 

 COMMENT 27152 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 06:02 PM

i just heard the chnl 9 chopper pilot say he thought the air-tac pilots reported fire 20 mins away from homes...
please be vigilant anyone who is still in the evac

 

 COMMENT 27153 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 06:11 PM

any news on if the fire has gotten down to foothill towards the riviera more to the right of mission canyon rd?

 

 COMMENT 27154 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 06:13 PM

Reporting from top of La Vista Rd., South East Face of Barger Peak is on fire.

 

 COMMENT 27155 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 06:15 PM

west flank blowing up.air tac getting ready to divert helo's for home protection in case it races down to lower foothills

 

 COMMENT 27156 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 06:16 PM

For KARNETT1

I just had a look and the answer is no. There is a little spot fire somewhere in the Mission Cyn area, but nothing major.

 

 COMMENT 27157 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 06:20 PM

I live close to the intersection of 101 and 154. I arrived home today around 4:00 to a fire that appeared to be "not too bad," especially compared to this time yesterday. However, I just looked now and the picture in these two hours has changed dramatically.

The smoke and ash clouds have gotten much worse. I can see lines of fire working their way west and down. Helicopters appear to be ignoring the flames here and flying past on their way to take water further east. The wind is not blowing much at the moment but it has been.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 06:24 PM

I've just posted another time lapse collage photos on my Photo Page. Still snapping from 101@154, but we might soon be trying to get online at a shelter. The front has moved far enough west that Sundowner with a hot downslope north wind could easily bring the fire within reach of Hwy.154.

 

 COMMENT 27159 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 06:26 PM

I'm sure most of you have read this already but if not the SB Independent's account of things up til this afternoon is pretty terrific.

(I'm using tinyurl to make Ed happy :-) )

http://tinyurl.com/ok4kyr

Thanks not only to them but to this site and again all the people posting updates here. So valuable to those of us away from it but nervously following along. You're all in my thoughts tonight.

 

 COMMENT 27160 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 06:28 PM

UPDATE on SBCC Adult Ed Schott Center Closure: Due to the poor air quality from the fire, Schott Center will remain closed until Monday morning, May 11.

 

 COMMENT 27161 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 06:28 PM

The live helicopter news feed showed a number of fixed wing aircraft dropping fire retardant along the ridge, one after the other.

 

 COMMENT 27162 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 06:46 PM

The wind seems to have stopped momentarily, and the result is that the smoke is moving over the 101/154 area and west Ashes are dropping at an increasing rate. It looks as if that huge cloud of smoke will soon be smothering us.

 

 COMMENT 27163 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 06:59 PM

Live helicopter feed says... tankers are doing one more drop at about 7:15. News chopper guy is anxious because they've got him restricted high due to tanker operations, and he wants to go lower for pix of the other side of the fire (he's been hovering on the ridge forever).

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:08 PM

West front has really exploded. I'll send a pic to Ed, and then post some (and a movie if it works) on my Photo Page.

 

 COMMENT 27165 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:09 PM

The wind must have picked up again because the fire on the ridge not far from 154 appears to be moving very rapidly. The flames are huge from down here, and there are a number of fires. It's truly scary to see.

 

 COMMENT 27166 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:10 PM

From the heli-video, it appears that the fire might now be burning fiercely west of Barger Peak, but it was hard to tell.

 

 COMMENT 27167 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:10 PM

scary and sad.

 

 GOWEST agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:11 PM

The fire on Barger pass is huge, and the wind is swirling around it like a tornado. You can see it all the way from Fairview in Goleta. Scary, indeed.

 

 COMMENT 27169 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:17 PM

Reporting from the top of La Vista, huge spread of fire to the west face of Barger Peak. Wind swirling west-north-west. Evacuated Barger Canyon & Northridge. Hasn't reached homes.

 

 COMMENT 27170 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:21 PM

Ten minutes ago I was in Rudy's on west Montecito street. People started looking out the windows and it was the flare up on the east side. Flames 150 feet? This was just after 7:00.

 

 COMMENT 27171 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:21 PM

The fire has just exploded in the last 10 minutes. The smoke is now blowing west and downhill. Huge spirals of flame can be seen on the higher fires, and there is a huge column of black smoke climbing up from the Mission Canyon/ Alamar area.

 

 COMMENT 27173 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:24 PM

if you are standing at milpas and cannon perdido looking up the cannon perdido canyon what is on the other side of the riveria? It looks like it is really smoking and flaring up from back there.

 

 COMMENT 27174 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:25 PM

Huge flames exploding on the east side of the fire above Mission Canyon - hard to tell more because of the heavy smoke heading towards town.

 

 COMMENT 27175 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:27 PM

Why is there no coverage on TV?

 

 COMMENT 27176 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:27 PM

Vin Scully just gave a shout out to SB and said its in his thoughts, hope the wind doesn't flare up too much. Not much consolation, but bless him.

 

 COMMENT 27177 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:28 PM

The smoke has now covered the hills and mountains near 154. Occasionally a high burst of flames can be seen but it is rare through this dark, dense cloud of smoke.

Does anyone have an update for the evacuation areas?

 

 COMMENT 27178 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:30 PM

Ditto SB sunny, I just spent two hours at west beach taking photos of the fire. Where is the tv coverage?

 

 COMMENT 27179 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:31 PM

OMG, huge, huge flames are now on the top of the closest ridge.

 

 COMMENT 27180 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:32 PM

Evacuation for La Vista and Barger Cyn just issued.

 

 COMMENT 27181 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:34 PM

Wind direction in downtown is now blowing to the WEST with gusts at 10-15 MPH. It was blowing to the east up until about 7:00 then calmed down for a half hour.

 

 COMMENT 27182 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:39 PM

Evacuation issued for the area east of 154 and north of Foothill.

 

 GOWEST agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:40 PM

Edhat has the only information now. But, I still don't understand much. I wish all those public info people would start doing their job.

 

 COMMENT 27184 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:40 PM

I'm at Mountain View School, looking at the west flank. We're seeing a long wall of flame that looks like it's just behind the closest ridge. Can anyone tell me for certain where the westernmost line of flame is please?

 

 COMMENT 27185 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:41 PM

City fire responding to a report of a hotspot near Clevland school.

 

 COMMENT 27186 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:42 PM

Yes - at 7pm I was at De la Vina and calle Laureles, and the only visible flame (which was 40 ft?) was positioned on the hill directly up the angle of Calle of Laureles. There was almost zero wind at the bottom of the hill at that time, and the fire locations looked well up the hill and away from houses. over about half an hour, the smoke plume did become larger, so perhaps there was more wind at the top of the hill. Smoke is moving towards the SW.

 

 COMMENT 27187 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:42 PM

Lots of comments on the west front. Does anyone know what is happening on the east front?

 

 COMMENT 27188 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:44 PM

No TV coverage may be due to a media release a couple hours ago to all media outlets directing them to stay off of the roads to allow emergency vehicle access.

 

 COMMENT 27189 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:47 PM

RANDEVAN - according to who? RE the evac east of 154 at Foothill.

 

 COMMENT 27190 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:49 PM

KEYT is back on news they are saying a new evac info is coming soon.

 

 COMMENT 27191 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:50 PM

I got that from the SO primary frequency.

 

 COMMENT 27192 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:51 PM

Just expanded to 154 and Windy Gap.

 

 SUSIECHAOS agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:54 PM

Flames appear to rapidly be coming downhill just east of 154. It looks bad on lemonjelly's webcam. Consider leaving if you are near Bishop High or just east.

 

 COMMENT 27194 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:54 PM

Tonight's sunset is truly a sight to behold. Red, orange, brown, black. Both beautiful and ominous.

 

 COMMENT 27195 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:54 PM

New evac orders here: http://www.countyofsb.org/ceo/oes0.aspx?id=2332

 

 COMMENT 27196 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 07:56 PM

OMG, OMG, OMG, the fire is coming down so fast. It's very close to 154 and nearing 101. I can't believe how terrifying it is.

 

 COMMENT 27197 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:02 PM

Thanks Z28'girl.

 

 COMMENT 27198 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:04 PM

County fire has issued a major staging call for equipment and personell.

 

 COMMENT 27200 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:14 PM

Huge flare-ups all across the western front. At least 5, very large, not sure exactaly where.

 

 COMMENT 27201 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:20 PM

we have changed the live stream at www.makeitwork.com, just click on the Jesusita link and you can stream directly from the site. You can see the flames up on the ridge. We have employees evacuating as we speak.

 

 COMMENT 27202 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:30 PM

I'm back from the top of La Vista, where the fire came rushing down from Barger Peak in a matter of minutes. I have never seen spot fires move that fast down a canyon and along ridges. A lone police motorcycle and one Search and Rescue truck were the only officials on La Vista/Debra/Antone to let people know it went mandatory. Didn't see one fire truck up there. I don't think they were ready on this Western front.

 

 COMMENT 27203 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:31 PM

Just spoke to friends who were evacuated from the top of Northridge. Police came and told them they had 3-5 minutes to leave due to speed that fire was approaching. All left except for two who stayed to fight fire as long as possible. When flames appeared over top of ridge directly across from them, they left and are now evacuated to Turnpike area. Hope that's far enough west.

Also seeing fingers of flame on the east flank above the Sheffield Reservoir / El Cielito area. Seemed to be working downslope for a while, then were moving westward as the wind shifted. Hopefully that fire will encounter the Tea Fire burn area and be somewhat contained.

 

 COMMENT 27204 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:31 PM

Hwy 154 from Painted Cave Rd. is now under evacuation.

 

 COMMENT 27205 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:32 PM

Hwy 154 south of Painted Cave Rd.

 

 COMMENT 27206 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:33 PM

where is the best google map that is updated regularly? Lost my link.... thanks everyone and hang in there and be safe!

 

 COMMENT 27207 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:45 PM

On KEYT: SB County Fire Chief is reporting that they can NOT get evac notices out fast enough. Everyone should NOT wait for warnings. It sounds like they don't even know where the fire is at this point. Cocopah/painted cave/etc but 154 is still open

 

 COMMENT 27209 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 08:59 PM

Good, up-to-date Google map is located here: http://is.gd/xEke

 

 COMMENT 27210 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:15 PM

KEYT just reported Hwy 154 closed.

 

 COMMENT 27211 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:20 PM

Just heard KEYT: West of 154 evacuation in process -- San Antonio Creek Road mentioned.

 

 COMMENT 27212 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:22 PM

PICTURES from the top of the engineering parking structure at UCSB taken just a few minutes ago. Last picture shows a flare-up where the flames started to drop down over a crest.

 

 COMMENT 27213 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:24 PM

Confirmed by scanner, per SBSO, CHP has closed 154

 

 COMMENT 27214 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:36 PM

From Hilda McIntyre Park 9:15:

 

 COMMENT 27215 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:45 PM

Mandatory Evacuations:
Painted Cave & Cocopah, San Antonio Creek Road

And WTF with the commercials on KEYT?!
No news on Channel 9.

 

 COMMENT 27216 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:48 PM

On KTYD, listener reports sheriff going door to door on N Hope with evacuation orders? I thought this area was under warning only.

Now unconfirmed reports of fire jumping 154. Anyone else have up-to-the-minute info on this?

 

 COMMENT 27217 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:50 PM

does anyone know the status of the Alamar/Cheltenham/Mission Canyon area? From my window over here (Portesuello area) I'm seeing 50-100' flame lengths??? But nothing on the news!!!

 

 COMMENT 27218 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:53 PM

Does not sound like it has crossed the 154 from first person Indy report.

 

 COMMENT 27219 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:54 PM

Per cell phone call CA to TX by SB resident on Old San Marcos possible spot fires West of 154

 

 COMMENT 27220 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:59 PM

My parents have just been evacuated and I live in NorCal. Is there a TV or radio station with streaming audio/video?

 

 COMMENT 27221 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 09:59 PM

Per Brad Joos of the Forest Service (on KEYT) right now, the fire has NOT crossed 154...

 

 COMMENT 27222 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:00 PM

Per KEYT: The Fire Chief of Los Padres (think that's his title) is being interviewed. He said, the fire has not jumped 154, but is in the north part of San Antonio Creek. He said that they are rapidly moving more equipment into the 154 area. Firefighters are in driveways waiting to save houses.

 

 COMMENT 27223 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:01 PM

I also am curious about the Mission Canyon area. I walked outside into my Westside neighborhood earlier (mission area) to see what could be seen, but the smoke was so thick I had to come home. Channel 3 is focusing on the 154 area. Can't blame them at all, but I'm also curious about these other areas. I'm hearing lots of sirens and helicopters.

 

 COMMENT 27224 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:04 PM

Bluelite - try KCOY or KCAL, that would be your best bet.

 

 COMMENT 27226 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:07 PM

Is anybody getting their info through a police/fire scanner? What frequencies and/or what type of scanner would be useful?

 

 COMMENT 27227 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:11 PM

Bluelite,
http://dmz.up-south.com/la.html
gives simultaneous news feeds from different sources.

 

 COMMENT 27228 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:14 PM

Reverse 911 call says 154 down to La Colina and then east of that to previous limit is now MANDATORY EVAC.

KTYD keeps saying that the area between old San Marcos and 154 is now under MANDATORY EVAC.

 

 COMMENT 27229 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:14 PM

it would be nice to have an infrared map overlayed on google maps, so that we could pinpoint exactly where the fire is. I have no clue as to how to do this . . . just suggesting it in the hopes that someone might figure it out

 

 SUSIECHAOS agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:15 PM

Comp2, I am listening to a scanner frequency online at http://santabarbara.scanamerica.us/index.php

 

 COMMENT 27231 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:16 PM

can someone please this guy off of Ch. 3? He is totally worthless!! Im trying to get information and Ch. 3 is just hopeless.

 

 COMMENT 27232 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:18 PM

From KEYT - Black Bear Sighted near town.

I guess we don't stop and think about the displaced wildlife.

 

 COMMENT 27233 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:18 PM

Per KEYT news: A house on Northridge is burning. There is a black bear making his way down Northridge Road.

 

 COMMENT 27234 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:20 PM

SB-Gal, that's really surreal -- and sad. I hope it manages to find its way to safety. I wonder if any wildlife service is available to help collect wildlife or usher to safety.

 

 SUSIECHAOS agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:20 PM

Snkrs, try this: This message courtesy of a firefighting website:

Here is a link to satellite IR data from early this morning.
Check the link below occasionally for updates - it links to the MODIS satellite data that the USFS posts on their activefiremaps.fs.fed.us site.

NOTE: This data is not realtime, and occasionally it misses major events depending on where the orbit path is - we waited for about 36 hours to get good intel from MODIS after the lightning bust last June, and one orbit at that time (centered over Utah) showed almost no heat in California, even though we had hundereds of starts going.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...52264&t=p&z=13

 

 COMMENT 27236 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:21 PM

InTheMiddle - welcome to KEYT fire coverage.... and why we love edhat and Independent.com so much :) If only they had reporters w/ live video from the scene we could abandon KEYT entirely

 

 COMMENT 27237 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:22 PM

SusieChaos, many thanks for the scanner link.

 

 COMMENT 27238 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:24 PM

Can anyone suggest the best place to donate to fire relief in SB? Would donating to the Humane Society be a good start? I was thinking of buying a couple of animal carriers online and express shipping. Or food. Or is there a better way to contribute? Thanks. A couple of friends up here in Norcal would also like to donate.

 

 COMMENT 27239 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:27 PM

Setting up a streaming scanner is not rocket science. I could supply Ed Hat with the major freq's and teach anyone how to set up a freq list for any incident. Then Edhat could supply a feed for the community.

 

 COMMENT 27240 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:28 PM

KEYT: 2-story house on Anton Road burned up.
154xParadise Road is shut down 154x101 shut down.
Winds are much calmer.

 

 COMMENT 27241 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:28 PM

The Humane Society could use a cash donation as well as the Red Cross.

 

 COMMENT 27242 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:30 PM

APSFLYER, care to elaborate? I'm interested in monitoring the radio traffic.

 

 COMMENT 27243 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:30 PM

Underdog - Quick correction - I was at the Humane Society today and they had tons of empty carriers and lots of food. I believe they could do more with cash donations. they won't need the carriers once the bulk of the evacuations are lifted, the cash is still necessary.

They kept my cat for two months after the Tea Fire while we waited for a rental that accepted pets. I think they are the BEST!

 

 COMMENT 27244 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:31 PM

Fire is making a stand in the area of San Antonio Rd. and 154 to contain to the East of 154

 

 COMMENT 27245 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:31 PM

I know the area is really bad at 154.. does anyone know about the flames visible from Coast Village..Are we seeing the flames from the Mission Canyon area? It's deceiving.. I haven't seen anything on the news, but I know there are worse areas... I would also love to know how to donate to the fire fighters??

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:32 PM

County updated their road closure page at 9:45. We have our cars loaded, but are watching/waiting right now 154@Primavera. The front has stalled at the ridge line, and might not make it down to Foothill@154 if conditions remain the same. Helo drops are going again, and helping a lot.

 

 COMMENT 27247 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:32 PM

Per KEYT: Firefighter on La Vista says: "Structures lost on La Vista. Temperatures of 102 degrees; strong westward winds towards 154; spotting and making runs."

 

 COMMENT 27248 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:32 PM

Underdog,

The SB Local Red Cross is in dire need of additional funding. Their $$ supply is quickly dwindling. To donate go to: http://tinyurl.com/bobueu
Select the last option "Support Your Local Chapter" and choose Santa Barbara American Red Cross.

Thanks!

 

 COMMENT 27249 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:33 PM

Comp>2 not the time or place.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:36 PM

Spoke too soon. Just had a major flare in the flatlands close to Foothill, east of San Marcos Foothills entrance and the bridge to nowhere. I'm hoping it's a backfire, but doubt it because flames were so high.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:37 PM

APSFLYER: Setting up a streaming scanner is not rocket science.

If you can do it without Adobe Flash, yes please! I'm reluctant to use Flash because it seems to lag on security updates.

 

 COMMENT 27252 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:38 PM

DPHS Evacuation Center is officially FULL. For alternate location, use UCSB Multi Activity Center. Go R @ circle. @ 3rd light, Left on Ocean. Parking is on left; shelter on right.

 

 COMMENT 27253 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:40 PM

Mandatory Evac over to Patterson above Foothill - yikes

 

 COMMENT 27254 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:40 PM

John Library Mike here in Texas. I will contact after things cool out.

 

 COMMENT 27255 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:40 PM

Thanks Nylo and SBGal, I will donate $ to both places. Was about to send food to the Humane society but if you think money is more useful I will change to that...

 

 COMMENT 27256 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:42 PM

I just heard a rumor that the fire is approaching Lucinda which is just west of Alamar. Anyone hear about this part of town?

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:43 PM

APSFLYER: I will contact after things cool out.

Great! Thanks, and I look forward to connecting about this. Ed will probably be interested too.

 

 COMMENT 27258 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:45 PM

Underdog - Good of you to do that - I just heard and did the same thing - terrifying as this is for us, it must awful for the animals, pets and otherwise.

 

 COMMENT 27259 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:45 PM

I am at San Ysidro and East Valley in Montecito and we can see flame up in the mountains where we couldn't see it before, definitely heading this way. But last I heard was that the east flank was calming down. Anyone have anything on this end?

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:46 PM

Through the smoke I can occasionally see strong east winds just across Foothill (and according to KEYT 100F), but here a block south of Foothill it's dead calm and 79F. If the edge doesn't move, maybe they can stop it above Foothill. Fire glow is gone again, so unless it's -really- thick smoke to the ground in between the tall flames are gone.

 

 COMMENT 27261 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:51 PM

Does anyone know why the area between N. San Marcos Rd. and Patterson, north of Cathedral Oaks Rd. went straight from nothing to a mandatory evacuation? I'm at the corner of Cathedral Oaks and Patterson, and the fire seems far away.

 

 COMMENT 27262 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:51 PM

John Wiley Thanks for the info. I live in your neighborhood and am staying with friends. My wife wants to bring you a cake when this is all over!

 

 COMMENT 27263 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:51 PM

Yes SanYsidro.. I can see flames here too right near Coast Village.. Is it coming this way? We have been having wild winds for the past hour or so. And smoke is now here..

 

 COMMENT 27264 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:54 PM

Noletagirl,
Have you been able to confirm it anywhere? Aside from KEYT I can't find the info anywhere... and I know the media fumbles now and then when there's this much info coming through. I'm waiting to see if I've got horses to evac & want to confirm this too....

 

 COMMENT 27265 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:55 PM

Sigh -- so it's going both west *and* east now? :-( Or am I confused from the reports... sounds like it's headed across below San Marcos Pass/154, and also east toward Montecito?

Man, this is gonna be a long night.

Wish I could also afford to create/clone a thousand new firefighters, a la the Orcs in Lord of the Rings.

 

 COMMENT 27266 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:55 PM

Noletagirl - I have to assume that the fire department just wants everyone out of the way. It would seem the fire is too unpredictable.

Good luck

 

 COMMENT 27267 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:56 PM

Underdog here's a list of items needed at Humane Society:

Pedigree small crunchy bites dry dog food
Pedigree chunky beef and chicken canned dog food
Johnny Cat Original cal litter (unscented and non-clumping)
Whiska’s dry cat food
Friskies mixed grill canned cat food

 

 COMMENT 27268 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:57 PM

Toomanydogs - the evacuation order is also on the Independent website. SBgal - I think your right. They probably just want us out of the way. Wish I didn't unpack the pictures when evacuating from the Gap Fire!

 

 COMMENT 27269 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 10:58 PM

Noletagirl & anyone else,
Here's the official word on Patterson mandatory evac:
http://tinyurl.com/pete59

Looks as legit as it gets. Yikes! Guess I may as well think about getting going.

 

 COMMENT 27270 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:00 PM

Via Los Santos, Via Los Padres, SBSO w/ SBPD assist, door to door evacuation.

 

 COMMENT 27271 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:01 PM

From scanner activity sounds like engines are preparing to make a defensive stand in this area:

 

 COMMENT 27272 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:01 PM

Bill Brown has just verified the west to Patterson, N. of Cathedral Oaks mandatory evacuation order. I guess it's time to go.

 

 COMMENT 27273 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:02 PM

people who are asking about donations - I suggest EDHAT. Wait 'til this fire is over, then I'm sure you can find info online.

 

 COMMENT 27274 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:04 PM

I'm going to assume *crosses fingers* that what we are seeing in Montecito is burning back into the wilderness so they are not concerned about it? Except that from my backyard it feels like the winds are still coming down from the mountains.

 

 SUSIECHAOS agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:05 PM

Press conference right now--ktyd.com

 

 COMMENT 27276 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:05 PM

John Wiley keep reporting on your area as we evacuated from what sounds like your area (La Colina Jr. High) around 9:30PM after seeing how fast this thing came at Barger Canyon and La Vista.

 

 COMMENT 27277 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:06 PM

Yes, we have a helicopter over Coast Village surveying it appears... not sure.

 

 SUSIECHAOS agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:06 PM

The speaker just called this "the worst disaster in 25 years" for Santa Barbara.

 

 COMMENT 27279 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:06 PM

I'm sure DAWG & ASAP need items too. CostCo sells large bags of kibble for dogs and cats cheap and it's good.

If any one find injured wildlife please call SB Wildlife Care Network 966-9005. Someone will be there 8am-8pm. For large animals please call Animal Control 681-5285 (I believe this is the correct #...sorry) you can call the Wildlife Center for the # too.

I know human lives are on every ones mind (as should be of course), the critters need some thoughts too. Bless the police, firefighters and all the volunteers helping. I wish I didn't live in a tiny apt. I would take people! I feel a bit helpless.

 

 COMMENT 27280 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:07 PM

Ptone: Concur that is the area you note.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:09 PM

SBJOE: My wife wants to bring you a cake

Chocolate! If the fire makes it across Foothill, better make it a cake big enough for the whole shelter to share, and I'll try to remember to grab the TV projector so we can all watch KEYT in 93" HD on my EyeTV. :)

 

 COMMENT 27282 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:11 PM

I'm so confused with these evacuations, map any one? Also did you hear DP is full, must go to UCSB Events Center

 

 COMMENT 27283 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:11 PM

John, it wil be the UCSB event cntr. DP is full up

 

 SUSIECHAOS agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:14 PM

Sorry for the long URL but here is an evac map from 10 pm:

http://tinyurl.com/pete59

 

 COMMENT 27285 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:15 PM

Thanks to John Wiley for all the accurate up-to-date info. My cousin is reading up North and it has been the best info for her and US. KTYD is good too.

 

 COMMENT 27286 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:18 PM

Sheriff Bill Brown said during the news conference and on KEYT subsequently that the evacuation on the west extends along Cathedral Oaks to N. Patterson, up N. Patterson to San Jose Ck rd. (near the Patterson curve) all the way to Camino Cielo - everything north and east of that line.

That said, I'm on N. Patterson above the curve, supposedly not in this area, and have heard announcements on the streets to get out. I think the officers in the neighborhood don't know exactly where they are.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:19 PM

Here's a link to Susie's map (a PDF). The fire perimeter is way out of date, but the evac zone looks right at a glance.

 

 COMMENT 27288 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:20 PM

we are a block over and packing. If you are that close I wouldn't wait for the mandatory evac notice, pack now. If you have to unpack and never leave, consider yourself blessed.

 

 COMMENT 27289 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:21 PM

KCOY Channel 12 is covering fire too ...for another resource

 

 COMMENT 27290 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:22 PM

Anything about Turnpike?

 

 COMMENT 27291 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:24 PM

Huge gust of wind here in far Goleta, by CostCo...John do you know the MPH?

 

 COMMENT 27292 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:26 PM

Anything known about the area above Tucker's Grove, where Sup. Janet Wolf lives - and lost her house in the Painted Cave fire?

 

 COMMENT 27293 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:28 PM

Has everyone seen the red moon?

Have they said if they feel this is arson? With the tip line I was thinking so, yesterday the tip line filled up and they couldn't take any more calls.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:28 PM

I went to high ground ten minutes ago to take a look. A home seemed to be making tall flames about two blocks north of Foothill@154, but the surrounding area didn't have any tall flames. No significant glow to the east along Foothill, but the smoke is fairly thick so this is probably useless information. Also no real glow to the west along Cathedral Oaks or up 154, but again lots of smoke. I'm fairly confident there's no active fire less than a block north of Foothill/C.Oaks within half a mile either way. The choppers seem to ber staging from the County complex just east of this intersection, and thrashers are working in the former staging area at the bridge to nowhere, clearing a fire break. I just saw a chopper low coming out of there, but don't know if it took off or just passed over it. Lots of low helo traffic, nearly all going east so presumably they're more worried about something in that direction. Winds still calm here and 79F. Smoke is blowing low overhead though (maybe 200'), so the upper level air is still moving south. Varying ash fall, but so far no glowing embers.

 

 COMMENT 27295 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:30 PM

Bird...I know June Taylor who has the Sea Pond lives next door to her and the Wildlife Center evacuated all the birds yesterday. I'm sure all the people are evacuated now too.

Yikes power glitch. Was at the movies and power went out.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:33 PM

KSBY has live coverage at the moment (just went to ad), with quite a few news chopper shots. Some great views from those, but alas few people could probably figure out what they're looking at.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:36 PM

For wind info, go to the Weather Underground page for SB (Ed said earlier there's a link to it somewhere on EdHat - main page?). I have it bookmarked, so haven't used Ed's link. Anyway, near the bottom of the page is a list of automated weather stations, and they give stats at varying intervals. The one I was watching like a hawk this afternoon is the La Cumbre Peak one, but now that the fire's at my door I haven't looked for hours. Oh, KSBY just went to Jay Leno. :(

 

 EDONE agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:38 PM

We have a banner on top of the Day 3 news page to the weather map. Actually, we have always maintained that link on the top of the home page.

The link is here

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:39 PM

Gentle but steady southeast breeze just started here. If it holds and moves across Foothill things could be looking up (he said hopefully :}

 

 COMMENT 27300 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:40 PM

Thank you, SGC.

As for arson, I hadn't seen anything to that effect. CherieDiane reported at some point yesterday that her neighbor was up on Tunnel Road and that a transformer failed and caused a tree to catch on fire.... Someone else reported gun shots in the area Lauro Reservoir.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:43 PM

Guy Noir (that's what I call him, don't remember his name) on KEYT just now said the breeze on Foothill is southerly too. I wanted to mention, and thankfully he reminded me, wearing masks is very important. One of our neighbors had some serious asthma from it, and he's not normally sensitive to smoke. The thing is, lots of it is from burning poison oak!

 

 COMMENT 27302 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:45 PM

The Tunnel Rd transformer sighting is someone I know, but timing is off, as he was at the church with the secretary when they were first announcing the fire, and it seems odd he wouldn't have reported that right away? He is in Colorado now and probably has no idea there is buzzing about it. Should call tomorrow...

 

 COMMENT 27303 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:51 PM

My husband is standing on the roof of the church (in Montecito) and says the fire still looks like it is heading eastward along the ridge. Not sure what ridge though. Winds are still gusting incredibly strong here, as well.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:51 PM

Straight line of flame going east from the bridge to nowhere, across San Marcos Foothills about where the thrashers had been working. Very even and low flames, looks like a backfire.

 

 COMMENT 27305 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:54 PM

Duh Ed would of bit me (re weather). Thanks John.

I know with the mask it's important to get the correct one! A lot of them don't keep out the small particles.

FIRE HAS JUMPED 154!!!!!!!!!

 

 COMMENT 27306 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-07 11:56 PM

Here are
some photos from just a couple hours ago.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:01 AM

At least four fire engines and several vehicles with yellow flashers just went up to the nowhere bridge, and the line of flame is now smaller. Maybe because the wind has died. Some glow all the way to 154 and east as far as I can see (no idea how far that is). Still lots of helo traffic, though it has slowed a bit.

 

 COMMENT 27308 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:03 AM

Power dips downtown near Anacapa and Ortega.

 

 COMMENT 27309 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:04 AM

just drove over TV hill. east edge of fire blazing high near gibraltar.

visibility very poor.

 

 COMMENT 27310 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:09 AM

any news on the East flank?
2 engines just came up APS from 5 points roundabout towards Barker Pass / Euc Hill.

A glow is visible from here above Via Alycia / Nicholas Lne etc where there wasn't before...

 

 COMMENT 27311 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:11 AM

Any one know more about what masks are good and where to get them? KTYD is wanting to know. Like I said I know you have to get the "correct one", but not sure what that is.

 

 COMMENT 27312 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:15 AM

county website now confirms the evacuation WARNING area extends to Fairview at 101.

 

 COMMENT 27313 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:15 AM

Sounds like humidity's up a little bit and wind is down -- is that right? I really hope it's calmer and a little cooler tomorrow. That's the break they need to get it more contained. I got to bed with y'all in my thoughts, and fingers crossed (if it's possible to sleep that way).

 

 EDONE agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:17 AM

Yes, warning now goes to Fairview and down to the 101. link

 

 COMMENT 27315 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:19 AM

sgc, keyt website indicates this re: masks:

http://www.keyt.com/news/local/44422057.html

Direct Relief International will be distributing particulate masks to the public today. They will distribute the masks from Noon until 3pm today at the following two locations :
Information Kiosk at Loreto Plaza on the corner of State St. and Las Positas Informatio Kiosk at Lazy Acres Market 302 Meigs Rd. near Cliff Dr. on the mesa.

 

 COMMENT 27316 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:24 AM

CHOCOREG thanks a bunch. I just emailed it to KTYD. FYI sounds like UCSB isn't taking pets.

Ugh, I have to get to bed too. My work is evacuated, but we have to go in to the bldg we're in process of moving to. Don't ask.

Thanks everyone, my heart and thoughts are with you all.

 

 COMMENT 27317 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:25 AM

The only place I found the correct masks today was at OSH. I went to many many places and all were sold out except them. They had quite a few when I was there this morning. N95 rated, I think? Can't remember now.

 

 COMMENT 27318 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:26 AM

Still incredibly windy down through this way. Eucalyptus trees are at 45 degree angles. Glow is getting brighter up there.

 

 COMMENT 27319 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:28 AM

My home is on Foothill Rd near San Roque Rd. I am away at seminary in Berkeley. I am so thankful for all your comments. I can't get any news off KEYT website that wasn't posted hours ago. My husband has been evacuated for several days now. I can only follow the goings on of the fire in bits and pieces. I'm trying to piece together what is going on day to day. Thanks for keeping many of us updated because the media only tells us about mansions.

 

 COMMENT 27320 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:40 AM

Fire official on KEYT just confirmed 40 to 50 acre fire on west side of 154 near via los santos or via santos (didn't quite understand the street name he said).

 

 COMMENT 27321 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:43 AM

Well now looking at a map what he said doesn't make sense unless he is talking about San Antonio Creek Rd by the 154 (which it appears Via Los Santos runs into). Can anyone clarify?

 

 COMMENT 27322 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:50 AM

Via Los Santos intersects with San Antonio Creek Rd above Tuckers Grove, which is where Turnpike ends (at the north) with Cathedral Oaks. I heard the fireman on KEYT say something about it being a "spot fire" that grew, in a drainage area. I can only assume that canyon above (to the north of) Tuckers Grove is on fire. If so, that's very close to the area that burned in the Painted Cave fire of 1990. I'm below near Bishop High School and my heart goes out to those folks. And I hope our house stays safe tonight. Thanks Edhat!

 

 COMMENT 27323 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 12:53 AM

My brother said he just heard SACC - which could be San Antonio Canyon Creek perhaps?

 

 COMMENT 27324 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:00 AM

KEYT just announced Martha Bull's home burned. My thoughts go out to her and her family. She seems like a fine person...

 

 COMMENT 27325 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:01 AM

in San Roque...

per scanner traffic; some fire in Stevens Park. structures on Canyon Oak (off N. Ontare) threatened.

possible structure fire on El Arco (off S. Ontare)

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:01 AM

I just got back from high ground at 154/Foothill, where I took a panorama of three shots. I've done a hasty splice and posted it to my Photo Page. The glow is less right now, but it flares back up occasionally. Looks like the fire is doing a slow march south on the flat meadows of San Marcos Foothills. Fire trucks went up there, but my guess is they're letting it burn to make a fire break because it's moving so slowly.

 

 COMMENT 27327 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:04 AM

Time to speak up, royally annoyed. I have been watching KEYT, KSBY, monitoring radio stations and websites. We are being told a lot, including, it seems much of the standard obligatory fear-mongering, as well as scads of conflicting or inaccurate data. What we are *NOT* being informed about is the most important material with which home owners and tenants can make the best assessment of the actual danger they face: The *position* of the fire-front on each flank, the rate and direction of advance in each portion of the fire, and the wind direction and strength along each quadrant of the fire's perimeter, and the recent-past trends of the wind data, just as examples. This information is obviously being fed back by firefighters and police but the the damned media are not relaying it back to the public, yet again. This withholding of vital information, either through incompetence, negligence or plain "bloodymindedness" is criminally irresponsible. This same apparent blackout of the most pertinent information happened in the Gap and Tea fires in the last year. What the hell is going down, and why?

 

 COMMENT 27328 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:06 AM

Thank you so much for all your updates. Im a mission canyon resident at college. edhat, the independent and the occasional phone call with my mom are my sole sources of info. thank you so much all your updates. please keep them coming. all the college students from sb are very thankful, trust me!
my house is still standing, thank god. my heart goes out to everyone is santa barbara and goleta tonight.
good luck!

 

 COMMENT 27329 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:07 AM

Whoa hang on, I'm watching KEYT and the "breaking news" text at the bottom of the screen said the mandatory evac area includes area north of 101 from Patterson to 154. That doesn't jive with what's been posted here. Last I understood, portions between Foothill/Cath Oaks and 101 between Patterson and 154 were warning only. In fact, we got the reverse 911 that we were in a warning area. Give these poor KEYT some coffee already, hopefully that will help them get their facts straight?

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:12 AM

Oh, forgot to mention on the photo that the little diagonal line upper right is a chopper moving across the frame of the long exposure (can you make out the searchlight?). They seem to survey the fire line when returning from a drop to reload, then take off to drop out east where things are apparently less serene. Here the air is still, more smoke now, a gentle fall of cool ash, air temp 78F. No real change in that line of fire, and some of the flames look quite small, surely they're just letting it burn but I wish they'd go ahead and put it out now! Maybe waiting until it has cleared the helo staging area so they can clean that up and reliably use it again? Can't tell if they're landing at the County complex still, or somewhere between that and 154.

 

 COMMENT 27331 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:12 AM

OK they just got back from commercial and it's changed to what I understand, that north of 101 between Patterson and 154 is under warning only. (If there is "only.") NIKGREEN I'm not sure how much of it is fear mongering or withholding info - I think with KEYT it's lack of info, which leads to assumptions, and lack of info leads to needing to "chat" while they are on-air and that's uninformed folks guessing about things... It's very bad and not news and not reporting. Where are the facts? Stick to them and stop speculating! Stop showing the burning houses, the ones that are lost. Tell us where the perimeter is and which way it's heading and how fast. Rant off for tonight.

 

 COMMENT 27332 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:16 AM

I just woke up. Wow. Looks like a snow storm on KEYT.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:24 AM

My heart goes out to people east and west, because it looks like the winds are bad there. Airport at 1am was NNE at 15, and La Cumbre Peak was NNE at 31. Still flat calm here, and down to 76F. Oh, how I hope things are easing in the other areas soon too.

 

 COMMENT 27334 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:25 AM

I live just NE of IHOP near County Hospital/Sherrif's station in between Cathedral Oaks, 154, Turnpike, and the 101. We are currently in a warning area. I am very concerned about reports of a fire up by Via Los Santos and Santa Antonio Creek. Does anyone have any confirmed info on this? I know during the Painted Fire the fire had moved through San Antonio Creek, close to our neighborhood, and then across the 101. How worried should I be?

 

 COMMENT 27335 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:28 AM

Z28RACERGIRL, just heard on KTYD that new mandatory evac was Turnpike to 154 north of 101. Heard this a couple times, then an official came on and repeated it.

On the Jesusita Fire Google Map, someone is addint possible spot fires from a sattelite pass, and they just circled one right below Tucker's Grove Park. So if true, you can see why that area is now included in mandatory evac.
http://tr.im/kOtV

Just heard it repeated again on KTYD - Turnpike to 154, north of 101.

 

 COMMENT 27336 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:41 AM

KTYD caller between Patterson and Turnpike below Cathedral Oaks got Mandatory Evac call - could just be stray R911 call, KTYD in process of confirming...

Anyone seeing any fires down in the flatlands or very low foothills?

 

 COMMENT 27337 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:43 AM

Flare-ups near Stevens Park/under San Roque bridge have been knocked down. Unclear on status of Canyon Oak structures (not currently engaged, but there may have been some damage).

 

 COMMENT 27338 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:44 AM

I am really feeling for the fire fighters right now, to be battling this thing on so many fronts. I find their courage remarkable - that they put their lives on the line for no other purpose than to save and help others.

 

 COMMENT 27339 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:45 AM

KTYD now getting several calls of sheriffs going door to door in Turnpike to Patterson area above 101, mandatory evac.

KTYD can't confirm with EOC because EOC was located in mandatory evac zone, so they are moving.

 

 COMMENT 27340 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:50 AM

person from fire dept just confirmed Turnpike to 154 north of 101

 

 COMMENT 27341 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 01:51 AM

Independent reports that all residents are ordered out of Turnpike to 101...

 

 COMMENT 27342 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:01 AM

We have been evacuated from Kellogg north of cath oaks, and are with family between cath oaks and 101 near patterson. Police are cruising through and advising of mandatory evac up to patterson and 101 or University (sorry I don't have more info). We got the reverse 911 for the warning, but haven't gotten the mandatory evac call yet. No sleep tonight! That bean bag at my office is sounding really good right now.

 

 COMMENT 27343 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:04 AM

KEYT caller reporting an incredible stand made by firefighters against the fire spreading under the bridge at Stevens Park. They "doused it" - no more smoke, no nothing.

 

 COMMENT 27344 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:04 AM

Ugh, confusion, EOC is moving HQ and not sure what is going on, tons of callers say Patterson to Turnpike north of 101 is MANDATORY evac due to cops on megaphones saying so door-to-door, even though EOC says no.

But you should probably leave that area to be safe.

 

 COMMENT 27345 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:07 AM

Why all of these new mandatory evacs? What is going on? KEYT doesn't say why or whether there is a significant fire west of 154. They are focusing on San Roque right now. I am at Cambridge and Cathedral Oaks (near very end of Patterson) and smoke is getting worse. What's the deal? Anybody?

 

 COMMENT 27346 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:08 AM

John Wiley: How is looking? I live just west of the 154 on Consuelo, and getting a bit more on edge since we just went to mandatory evacuation

 

 COMMENT 27347 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:10 AM

I live just south of the 101 at Patterson, and could hear bullhorns to the north. My advice is to play it safe and go.

 

 COMMENT 27348 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:11 AM

Smelling smoke for the very first time here in mid Goleta, north of the airport. Not just a slight amount either - getting heavier.

 

 COMMENT 27349 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:35 AM

Indy article just mentioned unconfirmed reports of fire up behind Sycamore Canyon... is that the same thing we've been seeing in Rattlesnake Canyon or something different?

 

 COMMENT 27350 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:41 AM

JLBINSB - we were on N Kellogg a block away from the reported mandatory evac and they came through on bullhorns telling us we had 30 min to get out.
GOLETACRANK - thanks for the update about the EOC. KEYT as usual has missed it and haven't even mentioned our area. Before we left it looked really close but I don't think it was. The police told us it had crested the ridge. My question is "which ridge?" Thank you anyone who has info for posting.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:48 AM

I'm watching the fire north of Foothill/C.Oaks like a hawk, and I think we're ok for tonight. It was definitely a controlled burn on San Marcos Foothills, because I actually saw a fire truck silhouetted by the line of flames with at least two firemen standing behind the truck watching the line advance at the ready but not taking any action. When it died down, they lit up the line again. Now and then a tree or bush will go up in a flare, but it's totally under control.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:52 AM

Smoke level has risen even with the backfires across C.Oaks. Helo went over a few minutes ago, ignoring the controlled burn. Went up the west side of 154, turned west about where the Tucker's Grove trail meets at the creek, looked around and then went east again without an apparent water drop. Only glow in that direction is coming from the tall lights in the County complex on the north side of C.Oaks just west of 154.

 

 COMMENT 27353 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:53 AM

We are seeing some major flare ups from here in Montecito. Top of a peak but still can't tell which one. Looks closer and bigger and brighter than a couple hours ago. And we are still getting wind gusts.

 

 COMMENT 27354 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:53 AM

Thanks John for the info. Stay safe.

 

 COMMENT 27355 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:58 AM

John, that's good to know about the fireline. The thing that is confusing to me is why they are so aggressive with the mandatory evac. I understand Turnpike to 154 above 101 given where the fire is above Foothill, but Patterson to Turnpike above 101 doesn't make sense to me unless there are fires in the San Antonio Creek area. Can you see fire burning on the west side of 154, even at this hour? My vantage point is now completely smoked out.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:58 AM

The smoke is still hanging overhead, and possibly still blowing offshore. If you're still smelling it in Goleta, my guess is it's from this controlled burn lofting up into the NE winds overhead and then dropping back down a little where the wind slows and comes down to ground level by the airport. La Cumbre Peak sensor still reporting NNE 24mph, airport SSE 7mph. Flames at the controlled burn are now tilting slightly ENE and it's still flat calm here a block on the south side of Foothill. Looks like it's over for tonight on the west front. Hope the east side is doing ok. Any news?

 

 COMMENT 27357 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:58 AM

John Wiley - ty for your continued input. Have you seen any non-controlled spots from San Marcos (control burn) to Patterson? We tried to get high enough to see after being evacuated but the flames appeared to have died down.

 

 COMMENT 27358 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 02:59 AM

John, ignore my question, posted it before I read your comment about backfires on Cathedral Oaks. That now makes sense.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:03 AM

I can't tell for sure if it's the one, but 14 years ago or so Cara Moore showed us an elegant big tree at SM Foothills that she said was then her favorite. It looks to me like they're burning grass off the slope below it that goes down toward 154, and so far I don't see any flames getting into the tree. Hope they don't torch it!

 

 COMMENT 27360 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:06 AM

sounds like EOC back online in their new locaction

they just confirmed KEYT report of mandatory evac from corner of Patterson/101 to 154

per John Wiley's excellent observations, this evacuation is due likely to fire department burning defensive backfires over here, not because the fire is raging on this side of 154

 

 COMMENT 27361 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:12 AM

I am so frustrated by the lack of any information about Montecito! I went to bed for an hour. But now a distinct ridge of active fire is progressing down a hill.

SanYsidro - do you think it could be above Mountain Drive? which peak or ridgeline is that?

 

 COMMENT 27362 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:14 AM

They sound like they are making a valiant effort of holding Foothill Rd so far.

How does this new info about backfires explain the MODIS satelite data, are those hot spots not to be trusted? It is 5 hours old already, but if you import this kmz into Google Earth http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/wms.php you see 3 hot spots below 192, one of which was Stevens Park which was extinguished. The other two being Tuckers Grove and Camino Del Remidio. Can anyone confirm fire at Tucker's grove or in the area to the West of the Transfer Station?

John Wiley, how is the La Colina Jr. High neighborhood doing?

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:17 AM

Most of the burning close to 154 on the east side is out, but there are still two spots burning further east beyond a wide dark gap with a couple of vehicles in the middle. Looks like they've now lit some pretty tall brush on the west side, and I can see a truck that looks to be towing one of the thrashers parked on the bridge. Doesn't seem to be any urgency anywhere or effort to do anything so presumably they're now shifting the controlled burn to the west side. I can now dimly see the remnants of a structure fire up the slope NNE at about 1000' elevation, so that lets me know there are no significant fires anywhere near here or I'd be able to see them or at least the glow. Very slight waft of SSE breeze here, and where the tall (10' perhaps) flames on the west side of 154 are looks like smoke is moving NNW. More good news for the west front.

 

 COMMENT 27364 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:19 AM

KTDY reporting on Twitter that the evacuation WARNING area has expanded from de la Vina at Alamar W to US-101, then N to Upper State.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:20 AM

Hi Pope, and thanks for everything you've posted. I'm sitting at home in the dark, in case a patrol car drives by and more importantly to watch for glow. Anyway, from my earlier high ground panorama and the lack of any glow east, I'd be very surprised if the fire got near Foothill anywhere at this end. Hope I'm right.

 

 COMMENT 27366 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:24 AM

Wow, if MODIS is correct, it looks like E. Camino Cielo has been reached, there are two hot spots on E. Camino Cielo Rd, somewhat near the Saddle that connects Gibraltar to E. Camino. It would also appear that Rattlesnake Canyon has taken a beating in the last 12 hours. Take this information with a grain of salt.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:28 AM

Several vehicles now coming down from the nowhere bridge, look like patrol rather than fire trucks. Cara's tree is fine, and the fire is out there and dying fast on the west side. Now a steady breeze toward the NNE there, still calm here. Still a long line of controlled burn well east of 154 along the same line a few blocks north of Foothill. I haven't looked at a map, but presumably they're razing the whole open space to create a big fire break for tomorrow.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:31 AM

Yes, those modis pixels are pretty big, and can be off by that amount. Still, fire at the peak with the wind there still strongly NNE would explain all the smoke haning overhead here. Hey, thanks everyone for helping keep me awake. I've been fibrillating on the half dozen dark chocolate squares I ate so I wouldn't have to make coffee. Are we all staying awake overnight together?

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:34 AM

Have a look at the GOES-10 Shortwave Albedo on the SW US Fire site.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:46 AM

I got a glimpse just now of a massive wall of flame on the eastern end. From the height and angle, it looked like the front part of Gibraltar. Good news is the flames were clearly tilting up-slope and slightly north. Hope this means the winds have changed or are shifting, because the smoke had to be pretty high for me to see that from here.

 

 COMMENT 27371 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:48 AM

Temperature has just dropped rapidly in Goleta, from 80 to 60 in less than half-an-hour. Cool on-short flow breeze, high humidity, no smoke smell.

 

 JOHN WILEY agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 03:51 AM

La Cumbre Peak is now reporting N 27mph, 58F, 27% humidity. Combined with the good news from GC in Goleta, a decision is emerging. I'm going to take a nap. Good night and good luck. :)

 

 COMMENT 27373 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 04:06 AM

Alright Wiley. I'll follow your lead.

Thanks for everything tonight

 

 COMMENT 27374 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 04:12 AM

Sheriff's Dept. Just went through on Cathedral Oaks towards Fairview announcing a Manditory Evacuation

 

 COMMENT 27375 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 04:16 AM

Really? Wasnt it mellowing out on that end?

How is the wind?

 

 COMMENT 27376 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 04:19 AM

Mr. Wiley..
I, too, sit in the dark waiting ... We had warning, mandatory phone call at 2; neighbors finally left at 3. On turnpike, it's calm, 72 degrees and 65% humidity.
I have a lung thing and am better in house at this point ... I'm thinking I should stay?
Comments?

 

 YVES agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 04:37 AM

Is anyone hearing anything about expanding the mandatory evac either above Cathedral Oaks or below to the west of Patterson (or San Jose Creek above)? We hear a lot of sirens and bullhorns and are near N Kellogg and Berkeley, but we can't tell how far away they are. They are in the direction of Cathedral Oaks.

 

 COMMENT 27378 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 04:41 AM

I hear nothing beyond Patterson and I am at Turnpike still waiting for police to give the final word... It's 3 hours now... Most news stopped when KEYT signed off but they will be back on at 5 a.m. so check there. They have been amazing - compared to little to no coverage on past fires.
N

 

 COMMENT 27379 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 04:51 AM

There's a press conference loop running on tv channel 20 with the broadened evac areas. Seems to be the only info on tv. Others are saying KTYD has live coverage. Other sources of info, beyond excellent edhat community, and Independent?

 

 COMMENT 27380 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 04:54 AM

KTYD is talking about the fire but they are taking calls...some seem legit, others are people giving info that's not totally accurate. They are getting their info from Montecito Fire. I think everyone's waiting for that press conference at 8 or the EOC meeting earlier.

 

 COMMENT 27381 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 04:54 AM

KTYD is still broadcasting live

 

 COMMENT 27382 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:21 AM

We are still at home regardless of the sheriffs dept and police announcing mandatory evacuation. It is calm here, and we can't see flames. (just off of Patterson 4 blocks up from Cathedral Oaks towards the mountains) I haven't been able to get any information about how close the fire is to us or what exactly the situation is on this end. Does anyone have any information? Would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

 

 COMMENT 27383 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:25 AM

CDLANE...

We are pretty much where are except off Turnpike. Waiting just like you. See nothing...
calm, 68 degrees and still cooling, 65 humidity.
There is smoke in parts of the house and it's making me cough to I put on the 'lighter' mask for inside.
I'm hoping someone gives you and me info we know. Nothing on KEYT yet... they are covering East.....

 

 COMMENT 27384 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:34 AM

NICKIET...

Hi thanks for your response. I am also watching KEYT, but nothing about our location. A bit frustrating. Does anyone out there have a good link to a map of evacuation areas and hot spots?

 

 COMMENT 27385 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:38 AM

CDLANE...
There was a list of mandatory evac areas on KEYT just now and we (you and I) are not on it... so far.

 

 COMMENT 27386 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:42 AM

live KTLA helicopter windows media stream here:
mms://a254.l5786058253.c57860.n.lm.akamaistream.net/D/254/57860/v0001/reflector:58253

 

 COMMENT 27387 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:43 AM

Good to know Nickiet-I live to the west of you guys. Are you staying put for the day in case they make it mandatory or chancing going to work?

 

 COMMENT 27388 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:44 AM

Just waking up and looking for info on Cheltenham and lower Mission Canyon in the direction of the Mission. Came down to San Diego yesterday since it appeared that it would be awhile before we could return home. This thing is horrifying. Fingers crossed for everyone!

 

 COMMENT 27389 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:45 AM

N Kellogg at Via Bolzano ordered to evacuate at 4 AM by SB Sheriff vehicle over loudspeaker. Can anyone confirm this is in a new evacuation zone?

 

 COMMENT 27390 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:47 AM

I just woke up in the middle of KEYT wrapping up with the lines "this tragedy in San Roque" or something like that. can I get a quick recap from anyone - what were the known damages in that area? I'm worried particularly about Lucinda/Foothill/down into neighborhood near Peabody.
Thanks!

 

 COMMENT 27391 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:48 AM

The map on the fire service webiste shows that as 'warning' still.

 

 COMMENT 27392 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:54 AM

TOOMANYDOGS: I believe no homes were lost in San Roque. This is the last report from KEYT that I saw.

SUNNY234A: This is why I am confused. The entire neighborhood was evacuated without warning or phone call, just a sheriff car with siren and loudspeaker.

 

 COMMENT 27393 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:55 AM

I shouldn't say without warning, but without any R911 call or a new mandatory evacuation zone even now.

 

 COMMENT 27394 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 05:56 AM

Parsons: I could hear it loud and clear from where I live but I didn't see anyone leaving and there was nothing on the web to show things had changed and no reverse 911 call. I believe in better safe than sorry but don't want to be scared just to get me out of bed either.

 

 COMMENT 27395 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 06:00 AM

PARSONS - thank you!
Watching the most recent shot I can see that the fire has probably not advanced into the area I'm worrying about. Yet.
Another long day ahead - hope everyone stays safe and that the winds find some other town to terrorize.

 

 COMMENT 27396 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 06:02 AM

SUNNY..........
OK... so we just saw a neighbor who can see the ridge and it is so far away we still would have time to get out if it moves... He will keep us posted and I will post here before we might have to leave. I don't think we have to do that for a while.. but who knows? I am staying put HERE. Our locations are easy to evac as our neighbors are gone and probably a lot of yours left as well... Good luck. This is icky but we will make it through ...

 

 COMMENT 27397 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 06:03 AM

The Reverse 911 call is a great service but don't wait for it. You may get the call hours after your status has changed. This is what I've found thru the last few fires. If they come thru w/ the bullhorn that should be your best information.

 

 COMMENT 27398 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 06:09 AM

NICKIET

Please keep us posted. What ridge was your neighbor looking at? I guess we are fortunate not to have the winds Montecito does. Hopefully the winds stay calm around here. If they start blowing, I think we will leave.

 

 COMMENT 27399 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 06:17 AM

I just got up. Can someone summarize what happened since midnight?

 

 YVES agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 06:21 AM

KEYT says Goleta schools Foothill, Kellogg, and Mountain View are closed today. They got a call from the district superintendent.

 

 YVES agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 06:26 AM

San Marcos High School also closed. KTYD is checking on GVJH.

 

 YVES agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 06:29 AM

Sorry, that's KTYD as the source on the Goleta schools.

 

 COMMENT 27403 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 06:34 AM

CDLANE:

Way up above Cathredal Oaks... and where he lives, it would have to be between Turnpike and Patterson.

The winds have generally been starting at 1 PM every day since the beginning... So I have to close my eyes for an hour at least.

I do not know how anyone slept in the 'evac' area. I will post anything we learn here.

 

 COMMENT 27405 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 06:51 AM

Trying to find an active map, maybe infrared, to show what is burning right now - can anyone help? KEYT is focused on a burning house above Calle Laureles, I want to know what hasn't burned but is in immediate danger! Thanks.

 

 COMMENT 27406 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 06:56 AM

Here's a laugh for all this am: our next door neighbor on Primavera got his paper this morning! Not sure if it's News Supress or not though.

 

 EDONE agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 08:43 AM

This comments thread covers activity on Thursday May 7. Please use Friday's comments thread for today's postings.

 

 COMMENT 27471 agree helpful negative off topic

2009-05-08 09:37 AM

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