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Early Morning Concrete Pouring
updated: Mar 20, 2017, 10:07 AM

By Edhat Subscriber

I live on Mason and Chapala and 140 concrete trucks came to pour concrete at one of the new hotels here.

Do they have a special permit to make this kind of circus between 3-5 am?

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 COMMENT 764544 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 10:23 AM

Just found this on the web for City of Santa Barbara:

9.16.040 Construction Work at Night Prohibited.
It shall be unlawful for any person, between the hours of 8:00 P.M. of any day and 7:00 A.M. of the following day
to erect, construct, demolish, excavate for, alter or repair any building or structure unless a special permit has been
applied for and granted by the Chief Building Official.


 COMMENT 764549P agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 10:27 AM

"Book 'em, Danno!"

Talk about a total misfire here.

It's time to hire ace attorney, Jackie Chiles.


 COMMENT 764550 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 10:28 AM

There has to be more to that code, its a bit vague. I would think that is more specific to residential areas. Not downtown among shops, hotels, and tourist attractions. I live 3 blocks from the construction, I did not hear a thing last night. 140 trucks? maybe 4?


 COMMENT 764555 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 10:35 AM

They probably have a permit.


 COMMENT 764556 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 10:45 AM

Guaranteed that this project got a special permit. It's a bummer for you, but the rest of us don't want 140 concrete trucks clogging streets during business hours. Expect to be sorely disappointment when you research a permit and found that they got one.


 COMMENT 764571P agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 11:35 AM

I sympathize. What a drag. Like as not unpermitted. Call public works and ask.


 COMMENT 764574P agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 11:39 AM

564-5388. City Public Works. Closed this Friday.


 COMMENT 764577 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 11:44 AM

140 trucks worth of mix is also being inspected while pouring and quite likely the timing was required by the city and a long time in planning


 COMMENT 764581 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 12:02 PM

140 trucks seemed like an exaggeration, until I did the math...
140 trucks * 10 cu yd/truck * 27 cu ft/cu yd = 37800 cu ft.

A 6" slab that uses 37800 cu ft of concrete is 75600 sq ft of slab area. Which makes it about 275 feet on a side (if it was square).

That's a big pour! No wonder they had to go all night.


 COMMENT 764600 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 01:35 PM

Pouring concrete on a monday at 3-5am has got to be expensive. I bet that normal daylight traffic might slow down the pouring process especially if 140 trucks are involved. Yes, this was pre-planned and pre-arranged.

Question.... how far and wide do they have to order to get 140 concrete trucks to deliver all at once? And how long is the concrete going to remain fluid before the 140th truck can deliver its load? I bet they gained a few hours due to the cool of the night.

Shame about the exaggeration as it taints the judgement behind the entire post.


 COMMENT 764610 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 02:11 PM

They don't have to go far or wide as any of the larger local PCC batch plants can run continuously. With a large pour like this it requires a concrete pump which takes several minutes to empty one truck so you certainly don't want 140 trucks waiting. Also Caltrans specs which the City and County use require all concrete to be discharged within 1&1/2 hours or 250 revolutions of the drum or blades after the introduction of the cement to the aggregates so you can't have more than a few trucks waiting. Retired Co. Const. Engr.


 COMMENT 764618 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 02:23 PM

OP does not say 140 trucks were lined up to dispense concrete. Could have been much fewer trucks making multiple trips? I still do not see that the 2 hour window is enough time to empty 140 trucks.


 COMMENT 764622 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 02:34 PM

Welcome to the neighborhood... You're clearly new down here. Yes, they have special permission, and there wasn't 140 trucks, just constant rotation... Perhaps you meant 140 truckloads? Just be glad you weren't here during the caisson drilling or the creek shoring! Anyway, perpetual construction is just part of the charm of the area, it makes it funky, see?


 COMMENT 764625 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 02:55 PM

If that's the only thing that you have to complain about, then you've got a pretty good life. If you're a light sleeper it's ONE night of inconvenience, but look at it this way; the economy is still working, people are employed, plus there will be even more jobs in the future, and they're not snarling traffic during the daytime. A small price to pay.


 COMMENT 764658 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 05:38 PM

This sounds like an awesome sight. If it kept you awake, you should have taken advantage and set up a camera for a time lapse video!


 COMMENT 764672 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-20 07:56 PM

610 here, as for the last couple of comments, correct, any contracted supplier supplier here would only have or need a half dozen or less trucks for a 2 hour pour and there is no way there was anywhere close to 140 loads as at the fastest they could empty into the pump it would take 24 hrs. for that many loads to be emptied. Must have counted the same truck pulling up, backing in and leaving for 3 times actual and embellished that considerably.


 COMMENT 764683 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-21 07:16 AM

They've been working at night at the Cottage in Goleta for years(?) now. I can often hear the trucks after midnight.


 COMMENT 764686 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-21 07:36 AM

Enlighten yourself by reading the building permit and planning documents pertinent to the project.

You armchair quarterbacks crack me up! One pumper…hahaha


 COMMENT 764689 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-21 09:21 AM

Why don't you provide the the part that states there will 12 concrete pumps and about 40 laborers plus several finishers.


 COMMENT 764761 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-21 11:44 AM

As someone who had a view of the work out my window, there were a whole lot of trucks (lined up from the worksite at Mason and State, around the corner onto Chapala, and back to Carrillo. So about 1.5 blocks, and 20-25 idling trucks at any one time) queued up to feed the pump truck that morning. I think they finished pouring between 10 and 11. So conservatively, I'd put it at 4 hours of trucks cycling through there.

I'm beginning to wonder if West Beach will ever get back to a quiet construction-free area. If you count the residential, hotel, and infrastructure projects in the area, there are 5 projects in about a 1 block radius from the Chapala and Mason intersection.


 COMMENT 764815 agree helpful negative off topic

2017-03-21 02:46 PM

Love the comments that the OP should learn to love the noise. Obviously from people that don't live near the construction site. Imagine the complaints those people would have if their precious sleep was interrupted.

What is the attitude of the City towards disruptions to people that live in the area? I'd call the City and your CouncilMember and give them an earful.


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