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HDTV Antenna Channels
updated: Aug 20, 2014, 12:19 PM

By Edhat Subscriber

I'm tired of the high cost of our television and internet bill. We've got a Verizon DSL, home phone, and DirecTv bundled. We tried to cancel the home phone, as we don't use it. We were told that we had to keep the home phone active for DSL. I would like to cancel the whole thing. Does anyone have any experience doing this? Do you have an HDTV antenna and if so, what channels do you get?

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 COMMENT 546213 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-20 12:59 PM

There actually is no such thing as an "HDTV antenna" other than in some marketing literature claims. Any antenna designed for VHF and UHF will receive digital and analog TV signals. You can also try just a piece of wire if the signal is strong.

Just hook up a TV antenna, point it towards the various transmitter locations, and see what you get.


 COMMENT 546220 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-20 01:09 PM

You can cancel your home phone and keep your DSL, you can get what is called a 'dry loop'. The cost is around 5$ per month for the dry loop on top of your DSL service.

My suggestion would be to drop the bundled package and either get a dry loop DSL circuit or get a COX data only package (speeds are about to double on those as well for no charge). Then buy a Roku device and get Netflix/Hulu Plus/Amazon Prime accounts. Broken down to monthly costs, the three mentioned services runs under 25$ per month for more content than you could dream of watching.

Depending on what package level you have with your current bundle, you could save an easy 75$ per month.


 COMMENT 546222P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-20 01:11 PM

There are lots of geeky threads on this topic if you search around. Have you seen this site?



 COMMENT 546236 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-20 01:37 PM

Buellton weighing in...we have an HDTV hooked up to an antenna and do receive HD channels. Here's a breakdown KEYT HD (720) and KEYT SD (480), KCET HD (720) and KCET (LN-480) KCET V-ME (Spanish-480), UNIVISION (Spanish-1080), UNIMAS (Spanish-480) and LATV (Spanish-480) Now for the key to decipher...the number listed is the (DPI-dots per inch) Aspect ratio is as follows: 480=4:3 720=16:9 and 1080=16:9


 COMMENT 546238 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-20 01:55 PM

480, 720 and 1080 are horizontal lines of resolution. 480 is standard definition similar to the old analog resolution, 720p and 1080i are high definition at two different frame rates.

'P' is progressive 60 frames per second, 'I' uses two fields, interlaced to a combined frame rate of 30 frames per second.

ABC uses 720p because the faster frame rate is better for sports. PBS uses 720p as well for "affiliate compatibility."

NBC and CBS use 1080i for maximum resolution, but half the frame rate as 720p.


 JAZZEE agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-20 02:27 PM

Lots of discussion about this already on Edhat. Use the search engine in the upper lefthand corner of this page. Type in antenna.


 COMMENT 546263 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-20 02:56 PM

Antenna TV also receives a channel called NHK, a japanese station with very interesting programming. Most of the programs are in english or with english subtitles. HD =720 or 1080 and represents the measurement of horizontal lines that are the vertical onscreen, while 1920 is the number of vertical lines that comprise the horizontal onscreen view. Best buy has a handsome wireless digital antenna for about $60


 COMMENT 546272 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-20 03:17 PM

Using zip code 93111, up to 15 channels from 6 over-the-air stations may be received. YMMV.

RF Channel: 21
10 miles at 297°

RF Channel: 27
10 miles at 297°

RF Channel: 17
7 miles at 122°

K10PV-D 6.1 NBC
RF Channel: 10
7 miles at 88°

K28GY-D 28.1 IND
RF Channel: 28
10 miles at 297°

RF Channel: 50
10 miles at 297°


 COMMENT 546274 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-20 03:23 PM

About 4 years ago I saw an ad on a bus saying you do NOT need a land lind for Verizon DSL. I cancelled my Verizon land line/DSL account (I never even plugged a phone in, I only use my cell) then opened a DSL only Verizon account. Works great, much cheaper.


 COMMENT 546298P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-20 04:20 PM

JBYRD, how much does cox data only package cost?


 COMMENT 546321 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-20 05:15 PM

I think what you get depends on where you live and how good the antennae receives the signal. I live in Noleta. Just replaced my old receiver with: Digitrex box (bought on Amazon)brand, antennae brand:RCA flat panel antennae. We get some crazy channels--even foreign news programs (in English), spanish language, ABC, bunch of PBS channels. I don't watch much TV, just wanted it for the news. Pretty happy with it. Very easy set up.

Internet: We have Verizon... most of the time it's good...unless we get a lot of rain. (What are the odds?) If it rains then we lose the phone and the DSL.


 COMMENT 546350 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-20 07:07 PM

I am looking at the Verizon website and both DSL packages require Verizon home phone service. Was the offer discontinued to new customers?


 COMMENT 546374P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-21 03:28 AM

Cox DSL package is about $75.00 per month. A friend in Orange County pays $30.00 for the same thing. Cox has no competition here.


 COMMENT 546379P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-21 06:38 AM

JBYRD, I am wanting to drop my cox "service" because of the quality of it, the cost of it. I watch mostly only the news and some PBS that I think are available on the Roku box I bought. It' say disappointment. Problem is that without Cox or an antenna able to get network channels, there seems no way of getting the PBS NewsHour or current PBS news shows, such as Frontline. Or, of course, public access channels that Cox has to provide as part of their franchise.

Does anyone here have an AppleTV; can it stream channel 18, SBTV? And any other online streaming?


 COMMENT 546394 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-21 07:31 AM

My channels change somewhat frequently but I use the "digital antenna" of plugging in my coax to my cox connection and get:

104.10 CBS 104.3 CBS 83.2 CBS HD 104.7 CNN 104.1 CoxSB 107.5 CSPAN 86.2 CW 104.2 Fox SB 104.9 HSN 86.3 KCAL 107.1 Lifetime 86.15 NBC 83.1 NBC HD 86.16 PBS 86.12 PBS HD 103.3 Public Access 103.5 Public Access 104.4 Public Access 104.5 Public Access 103.4 QVC 86.13 RetroTV 107.3 SpikeTV 103.8 TBS 111.4 Telemundo 107.6 TruTV 104.6 UCSB 103.10 UCTV 107.4 WeatherChannel
103.1 USA
104.1 NBC LA


 COMMENT 546397 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-21 07:43 AM

I live on the Mesa above Shoreline Park. I tried three different HD antennas with marginal success. I tried attic mounts and roof mounts in various places on my roof. I did not get KEYT ch. 3 with any of them. I think I got ch 6 or 12 (it has been a couple of years). I got a bunch of LA stations, but they would come and go. All in all, I found it very unsatisfying and went back to cable.

Antennas work on line of sight, so it really depends on where you live.


 COMMENT 546404 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-21 07:53 AM

@ 379P - I just dropped Cox for TV ($130 a month and no movie channels). I now watch the PBS NewsHour on my PC. Just go to www . pbs.org/newshour/ scroll down the page a bit and click on PBS NewsHour - Full Episode. You can watch it anytime you like, and skip the boring topics as you choose.


 COMMENT 546407 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-21 08:01 AM

Thanks 238 for the knowledge.


 COMMENT 546451 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-21 09:36 AM

KEYT has an engineer that can help you with your antenna set-up. He was very helpful with advising my husband over the phone when he was trying to set up the HD thing. We've NEVER had cable.


 COMMENT 546512 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-21 11:37 AM

238, The comment of, " 'P' is progressive 60 frames per second, 'I' uses two fields, interlaced to a combined frame rate of 30 frames per second.", is false. The 'P' stands for Progressive Scan and has nothing to do with frame rate. The 'I' stands for Interlaced and once again has nothing to do with the frame rate speed. If you are going to spew facts on here, please make them actual facts and not hearsay.


 COMMENT 546518 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-21 11:59 AM

how come when I touch the terminal the picture comes in am I a conductor ?


 COMMENT 546716 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-08-22 08:02 AM

379P: Apple tv allows you to stream PBS, including Frontline, news, Masterpiece Theatre, etc. Go online to Apple Store, which lists content for Apple tv.


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