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Cyclist Ticketed On Sidewalk
updated: Jul 15, 2014, 5:25 PM

By Edhat Subscriber

I just witnessed a bicyclist, 1200 blk San Andres St, getting a ticket for riding on the sidewalk. What do other EdHatters think about that?

Comments in order of when they were received | (reverse order)

 COMMENT 535784 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:28 PM

That's fine by me, sidewalks aren't for bicyclists.

 

 COMMENT 535786 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:33 PM

While I agree that sidewalks aren't for bikes, I am not opposed to someone on the side walk for a short time as some of the streets here are so small the car hardly has room and cannot make room for the bike, Carrillo, mission, de la vina, and dozens of others. Stop giving biciclyst tickets and be happy it's one less car in an already overcrowded town!!!!

 

 COMMENT 535790P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:38 PM

Although I'm glad in general there are bicyclists, too many swoop through a stop sign. There are rules to be upheld for bicyclists too.

 

 COMMENT 535791P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:38 PM

I'd rather they give tickets for blowing through stop signs. I see it nearly daily on university between San Marcos and Patterson.

 

 COMMENT 535792 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:38 PM

Unless it was a young child, I say "HUZZAH! Write more tickets!"

I'm fed up with the attitude so many bicyclists in this town have. I have to share the road AND the sidewalk with you? Oh, HELL to the no!

Use the road, lawfully. Period.

 

 COMMENT 535793 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:39 PM

Write them up! There is safe roadway area for bikes on almost every road with sidewalks in town.
Try getting hit by a bike while on foot....as bad as by a car.
Also some divers ed about violating an occupied crosswalk, seems like only 1/2 the drivers know to wait until the peds have completely crossed the road....cars be nice to bikes and peds, bikes be nice to peds..

 

 COMMENT 535794 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:41 PM

Send them to Lompoc and they will make a killing! I guarantee 100 tickets a day on H street alone.
The only riders who AREN'T on the sidewalk are courteous thru-riders from out of town.

 

 COMMENT 535795 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:42 PM

They spent millions on bike lanes. USE THEM!!!!!

 

 COMMENT 535796P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:46 PM

Excellent. Where there aren't yet dedicated bike lanes, cyclists and cars have to share the roadways. Sidewalks are for - wait for it - walking. A lot of bicyclists, frequently with wide handlebars, ride sidewalks like they have right-of-way and both pedestrians and playing kids just better move aside or else. Now, if only the cops would start ticketing the downtown skateboarders that treat walkers and families with strollers like slalom poles.

 

 COMMENT 535797 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:47 PM

Apparently these posters never stoop to the level of San Andres, since there are no bike lanes, and hardly enough room for two large pickup trucks to pass each other. I'd say it's a little harsh to give a ticket for such on streets like that. Same goes for Carrillo heading up to the mesa between the freeway & San Andres

 

 COMMENT 535798 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:48 PM

I only ride my bike on the sidewalk if there is no bike lane on the road and not enough room for me with the parked cars and moving traffic. When i have to do that I'm very careful if I'm sharing the sidewalk with pedestrians and ride very slow next to them. Giving someone a ticket for that who has a good reason for doing it safely seems wrong.

 

 COMMENT 535799 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:49 PM

San Andres is so narrow I might ride on the sidewalk.

795, when has this town spent any money on bike lanes?

 

 COMMENT 535800 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:49 PM

Well, I live in Lompoc and the fact is that very few people walk on the sidewalks downtown (or anywhere else).

Maybe if they start enforcing that new law that drivers must be at least 3 feet away when passing cyclists, there won't be any bicycles on the sidewalks anymore - we'll just have to listen to drivers whine about being ticketed.

 

 GRITZ agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:49 PM

I would prefer that tickets be given for texting and driving, texting and biking, and texting and walking like an idiot.

 

 COMMENT 535803P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:53 PM

I walk on San Andres quite frequently and, though I've encountered bicyclists on my walks, have never had a problem. They have always been unobtrusive and courteous. I don't think I'd ride a bike on that street-way too dangerous. And I'm sure the many drivers appreciate it, as well. I have to add here that I'm not a cop hater, at all, but this just seems a little "Knit-picky".
On the other hand, maybe they were just "shaking down" a known offender?

 

 COMMENT 535805 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 05:56 PM

Must have been in the Coty of Santa Barbara. They are very money hungry now.

 

 COMMENT 535813P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 06:00 PM

*nit picky*

 

 COMMENT 535816P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 06:03 PM

Umm . . .Bicycles are considered vehicles. I wish I could be handing out citations to those who bicycle on the sidewalks.

I ride my bike all over SB and have never yet had to resort to riding on the sidewalk. All one such scofflaw would have to do is accidentally bump into some little old lady or doddering man, causing her/him to fall, and there goes that elderly person's hip/shoulder/ankle, etc. A sure-fire way to speed up some frail person's demise.

Bike riders need to stay off the sidewalks. Period. No excuses.

 

 COMMENT 535817P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 06:04 PM

"bicycles."

 

 COMMENT 535820 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 06:17 PM

I love bikes and ride daily. But not on the sidewalk for any reason.. Been hit before coming out of a store on Montecito St. and Hombre keep riding down the sidewalk (no speak English)? and I still have a bad knee to this day ..Thanks!

 

 COMMENT 535823P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 06:19 PM

Although bicyclists "hubris" can be annoying, it's the texters and cell phone talkers which is much more common and dangerous. Wish there'd be a bigger crackdown on them.

 

 COMMENT 535825 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 06:24 PM

On the sidewalk, you walk your bike

 

 COMMENT 535830P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 06:34 PM

I've lived on San Andres for over 10yrs and have NEVER seen an accident between a pedestrian & bicycle riding on the sidewalk. One time, I did yell at an old drunk guy, riding a bicycle on the sidewalk, and swerving all over the place. I told him NOT to do that, so he stopped, but forgot to put his feet on the ground, and he fell over !! He just stayed there on the ground for a few minutes!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I would rather the Police go after bicycles on the streets breaking the laws. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I chuckled at the correction to "knit picking" !!! And by-the-way btw- "nit picking" refers to picking lice out of head-hair.

 

 D8VANILLA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 06:45 PM

OP here: I didn't recognize him as a regular. He was riding an older beat-up bicycle, at a slow'ish pace (not zooming down the sidewalk). He looked like he was in his late 20's or early 30's Hispanic. The sidewalk didn't have any pedestrians around. I'm not sure what caught the attention of the Officer, but he passed him, then turned around, came back and parked. It was a Canine Unit.

For the most part, I agree with 803p. I've never had a problem with bicyclists on the sidewalk, but I wish they would make a little noise, so I know they are there. They seem to be very courteous to the pedestrians and will wait until the path is clear.

 

 COMMENT 535837 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 06:52 PM

It's illegal for a reason. Don't do it.

 

 COMMENT 535838 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 06:54 PM

How about citing skateboarders who skate in traffic?

 

 COMMENT 535839P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 06:54 PM

Love the drunk story, 830P! I wonder if he woke up the next day wondering what on earth he had done to himself the day before.

 

 COMMENT 535840 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 07:04 PM

I fear the skate boarders more. Once I was at the stop sign on Arriegga (SP?-) to enter the freeway. Naturally I stopped , saw absolutely no pedestrians, but had to watch carefully for the traffic on that one was street I had to cross. And still watching for pedestrians. And so I started slowly and carefully to cross. And out of the blue, on my right, three teens on boards came flying off the crossstreet ramps. One flew right onto my hood. I stopped, and offered assistance--but he was not hurt. And he took off. It was I who was shaken up. I will never forget that. It could have been disastrous.

 

 COMMENT 535842P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 07:06 PM

No, bicycles should not be ridden on the sidewalk. IMHO, that is a valid ticket.

 

 COMMENT 535844 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 07:35 PM

It you can't do the time, don't do the crime! Stay off of MY sidewalk, spandex boys!

 

 COMMENT 535847 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 07:43 PM

The sidewalk is not a bike lane. If you feel unsafe riding your bike on the street, like the vehicle it is, find a safer street or different mode of transportation.

 

 COMMENT 535851 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 07:54 PM

So if the bicyclists make it inconvenient to drive in traffic lanes i can drive on the sidewalk…if i make a little noise?

 

 COMMENT 535852P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 07:56 PM

Hurrah! Glad the SBPD is enforcing the law re bicyclists. Maybe they'll do so on the east side - yes, it is dangerous to ride on Quinientos and Carpinteria streets but there are others, without so many cars. And I wish they would ticket the bikers on the sidewalk (not the bike/beachway) along Cabrillo --- bikers, electric bicyclists, bikers with dogs, skateboarders and the Segways always on the sidewalks all make it sometimes dangerous and oftentimes not a pleasure on the sideWALK.

Ditto at the Waterfront but the staff there are more on top of the situation.

 

 COMMENT 535856 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 08:38 PM

I wish that drivers wouldn't harass bicyclists for exercising their legal right to take the entire lane when there is no bike lane and there are cars parked. We all have to share the road.

 

 COMMENT 535868P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 09:50 PM

Not a spandex boy, but a Hispanic guy probably going to/from work, trying not to annoy the yahoo drivers who yell at bikes to get off the road. Glad the cops are making everyone so safe.

 

 COMMENT 535872P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 10:46 PM

Yes - there are laws for bicyclists, and for quite some years now, it has become more and more common for them to ignore those laws. How about ticketing for riding on the wrong side of the road, for example. That's a really dangerous practice since auto drivers are not checking for wrong-way riders when they turn.

Has anyone noticed that the beach-side lane on Cabrillo Blvd is now restricted to bicycle traffic, and cars have one lane? I thought the bicycle path a few yards away on the sand was for bikes.

 

 COMMENT 535873P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 10:54 PM

If the street is too dangerous for someone to ride on then they can get off their bike and walk it on the sidewalk... When the sidewalk on state street is filled with pedestrians rushing all ways I don't go walk in the bike lane.

 

 COMMENT 535875P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-15 11:19 PM

872P. As a person who used to inline skate and bike and dog walk along the Cabrillo Beachway five days a week, for years and years, I can testify to the fact that it is probably a lot safer to bike out on the road than on the path----if you'd like to go over 15mph on your bike.

No kidding. The "Bike Path" is one of the most perilous places to skate/ride your bike, if you want to maintain any kind of speed. Some of the danger is due to tourists habitually, ignorantly walking on the wrong side (keep to the right!) and/or NEVER looking back over their shoulders before they decide to turn left, crossing over into another lane. Sometimes walkers/bikers/skaters will "hog" the path, too, by meandering over the line into the other lane.

Also: the recumbent bicyclists are having fun, weaving back and forth. The surrey drivers usually have NO CLUE whatsoever about keeping to the right and looking behind them before executing a turn.

Then there are the yahoo bikers going way too fast, and the skateboarders who think nothing of bailing out, with their deck flying across the path in front of you.

On and on and on. I have even had dog walkers using those extendable leashes allow their dogs to wander across lanes, right in front of me. There is no way you can ride on that path at any sort of speed without endangering yourself and others. As long as you're wary of the opening of car doors, you're safer out on the road.

 

 COMMENT 535876P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 01:25 AM

If you have ever had to walk using crutches or a cane, or if you have walked with a little kid either carrying him or holding his hand, or if you have taken a walk with a frail old person (or been old yourself), then you understand why riding a bicycle on a sidewalk is both dangerous and grossly inconsiderate.

 

 COMMENT 535880 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 06:23 AM

About fricken time!! I have had too many bicyclists ride into me while I'm walking on the sidewalk. They have wheels, need to be in the bike lane on the road.

 

 COMMENT 535882 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 06:31 AM

The right lane of Carrillo is a "sharrant" lane, not a bike lane exclusively. The chevron above the bike symbol indicates this. It is to be shared with bikes.

 

 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 06:58 AM

San Andreas..

 

 COMMENT 535891 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 07:02 AM

Bicyclist should be ticketed for breaking the rules of the road just like cars are. That means no riding against traffic or the wrong way up a one way street or weaving in and out of traffic, running stop signs and ridding on sidewalks. And please, if you are going to ride in heavy traffic wear a helmet and pay attention!!
@973 the law does not state that one must wait for the crosswalk to be empty to proceed through, only that the pedestrians must be safely out of the way before a car may proceed.

 

 COMMENT 535892 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 07:03 AM

875P, it is not a dedicated BIKE lane. It has some other name like beach way to indicate it is a free for all of everything you summarized. If you are on it, you are not in a hurry to get anywhere and are just enjoying our SB ambience. If you are in a hurry, you are using the bike lane out on Cabrillo.

The only bike accident I had in SB was getting knocked off my bike into the sand on the beach way by someone who decided to turn right without looking behind him.

 

 COMMENT 535896 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 07:20 AM

It's not a black & white issue. Some times you need to ride on a sidewalk if riding on road is to dangerous. If you have to share with peds should ride very slow or walk bike. I have done it for many years in town and never had a cop stop me. I believe more to story here. Cops would not ticket someone for this unless clearly person on bike is doing something which is creating real hazard.

 

 COMMENT 535897 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 07:21 AM

One less car! Why can't you people get it?

 

 COMMENT 535903 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 07:35 AM

I suspect a lot of these people who complain about cyclist have never rode a bicycle around a town that lacks bike lanes on many streets. Riding on sidewalk is not big deal as long as you do it safely and yield to peds.

 

 COMMENT 535909 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 07:48 AM

Riding bikes on sidewalks is completely rude and obnoxious. I wish this was enforced more. Big problem in Carp as well.

 

 BARRELRIDER@59 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 07:51 AM

I used to cycle a lot. Cyclists are crazy to bend the rules and should be ticketed for their own protection.

 

 COMMENT 535914 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 07:54 AM

799 et al, San Andres is so narrow that I ride my bike on . . . Chino street or even Gillespie. Sidewalk riding is ok for a little kid riding at walking speeds, but if you're riding at jogging speeds or higher eventually you are gonna get nailed by a car entering/exiting a driveway, get doored by a passenger exiting a car parked on the street, or tangle with a pedestrian who belongs on the sidewalk (no, you don't belong there).

True enough, we don't have bike lanes on every street in town just like we don't have useable sidewalks on every street in town, but we also have some places where bikes and pedestrians can go and cars cannot. You can get to within a block or two of anywhere in town without riding on sidewalks or narrow busy streets and I for one am quite willing to walk my bike down the sidewalk that last two blocks (except usually its more like half a block or less) or straddle it and scoot along at pedestrian friendly speeds.

 

 COMMENT 535915 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 07:54 AM

Bike riding has become an emotional rather than logical issue. All we need to do is look out for each other. There are many polite cyclists but they get the brunt of bad feelings from annoyed car drivers, or worse, aren't noticed and acknowledged. I've had drivers get mad because I slowed until I made eye contact with them. Almost monthly I encounter a driver who blames me rather than paying attention to the road activity. I wonder if they have kids/grandkids who bike.

 

 COMMENT 535916 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 07:55 AM

I was cycling the right way down a one way bike lane the other day a and guy cycled straight at me coming the wrong way, full on stare down. There is a certain type of cyclist in town that just doesn't follow the rules of the road. Ticket them all.

 

 COMMENT 535920 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 08:06 AM

FINALLY!!! Now, start ticketing them for blowing through stop signs!!!

 

 COMMENT 535923 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 08:08 AM

I'm a cyclist and one who comments here about how tired I am of SB folks bashing cyclists and stereotyping us as all the same.

This person should be ticketed as he was doing something illegal. Don't ride on the sidewalks. Drivers should be ticketed for MANY things every day but they aren't because too many of them are doing it and not enough cops to keep up.

As for those saying "that's why we have those safe bike lanes", you should try riding in them sometime (if there is one on a given road). There are drainage grates, road debris, glass, potholes, roadkill, car doors opening, cars going over the line into the lane, people pulling out of driveways, etc. A drainage grate can fit a road tire and cause the rider to faceplant.

A white painted line does not make the shoulder "safe". Why can't we all do our best to share the road?

 

 COMMENT 535927 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 08:19 AM

Tell a parent who's young kid got killed riding on a street with no bike lane, when riding on the sidewalk could have saved his life.

 

 COMMENT 535931 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 08:24 AM

927, I don't remember this happening, do you have any examples?

 

 COMMENT 535932 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 08:24 AM

JHFC!

 

 COMMENT 535935 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 08:28 AM

It is also very dangerous as often the rogue sidewalk riders are going the wrong way and bust into the crosswalk at full speed on unsuspecting drivers without even stopping. Good way to get hit. I lay in the horn anytime I encounter this.

 

 COMMENT 535945 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 08:39 AM

By law bicycles must be walked not ridden on the sidewalk. Also bicycles must be walked in a "crosswalk" not ridden there either, for obvious safety reasons.

By the way, the fine for a bicyclist failing to stop for a stop sign is $460.00 !!

 

 COMMENT 535946 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 08:40 AM

Perhaps if drivers were held accountable for unsafe driving, texting, speeding, lack of turn signal, rolling stops and reds, etc etc, then people on bicycles wouldn't be so inclined to ride on sidewalks. People riding bicycles fast on sidewalks is unsafe, but so is the attitude that many drivers have, that being the feeling they should be able to drive their car however they want irrespective of other peoples safety, and if other road users face the consequences of their actions then that's their problem. That's the real problem our cracker jack prize of a drivers license has created.

I'm willing to bet BIG that every person who posts comments like, "it's about time bicycles were held to the law" are breaking dozens of traffic laws every time they get behind the wheel. I drive and ride daily, and break far more road laws on four wheels than two. Admit it, you do too, and you're making the road an unsafe place because of it.

 

 COMMENT 535950 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 08:52 AM

Agree, this car centric attitude of many. As if cars have the right away over cyclist. I encounter drivers all the time on my bicycle who have total disregard and will cut you off or speed past you just inches away. They feel they own the road and you're the idiot taking a chance on the shoulder. Even thought I avoid riding on the sidewalk unless absolutely necesary I don't blame people for riding on the sidewalk in some places around town. They fear for their life!

 

 COMMENT 535957P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 09:07 AM

Observe the law; it's there for a good reason.

 

 LILAC agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 09:10 AM

While we are on the subject of bikes--my pet peeve is that they do no have bells, as do all bikes in Europe. Since I do a lot of walking, sometimes on paths used by both bikers and pedestrians, I often can not hear bikes until they are almost at my heels.

 

 COMMENT 535960 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 09:11 AM

I drive for a living, and do everything in my power to follow every law to the letter. It ist that hard really, it becomes second nature eventually. If you aren't following the laws you are just lazy, and asking for trouble. Learn the laws, and follow them, bikes and cars alike. If you are riding a bike and are coming to a stop sign, I expect you to follow the law and STOP. I hope you do because if it is legally my turn to go, I'm going. Breaking the law is just plain irresponsible and dangerous.

 

 COMMENT 535964 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 09:17 AM

Could it be that the reason it feels like they're only inches away is because you are riding on the white line, or maybe on the outside of a group riding three wide in a four foot bike lane. If it is too dangerous to ride IN the bike lane, then maybe you should not be riding there at all. Follow the law (Bicycles AND Cars) or get off the road, cause you make it more dangerous for everyone else there.

 

 COMMENT 535972 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 09:28 AM

If you're one of those drivers who hate cyclist and don't use caution when driving next to them you will be sued when you hit me or fellow cyclist even if I'm on that white line. Save yourself financial & legal pain and a massive car insurance increase by simply sharing the road adn using caution passing cyclist.

 

 BRC agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 09:34 AM

Does anyone know, where kick scooters are legal, in the bike lanes, on the sidewalks (or both)? I'd love to bike around town but find it too dangerous, from cars but also cracks in the pavement, so I am going to get a KickPed kick scooter.

 

 COMMENT 535987 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 09:46 AM

Most of the bikes on sidewalks I see are inconsiderate bums lugging their junk around (usually heading toward one of our cities lovely free homeless hotels). I've had more than one verbal altercation with these drunks after having to basically jump into the bushes to avoid getting run over. I say bust em all. Bikes belong on the right side of the road and on the street. It's not that hard.

 

 COMMENT 535995 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 10:06 AM

They also need to enforce no bikes on the clearly marked "NO BIKES" walking paths at Shoreline Park. I've had bikers ring bells at me, yell, etc to get out of their way when they shouldn't be there in he first place. Now my dog and I just don't move at all and force them off their bikes or into the grass.

 

 COMMENT 535996 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 10:06 AM

My favorite "stupid cyclist move".... using pedestrian cross walks like a private intersection.

I've gotten to the point where I avoid driving on Milpas because this is an all-too-common occurrence.

If you are RIDING a bike, you are NOT a pedestrian and you DO NOT have the right to insist traffic stop for you to cross AS YOU RIDE YOUR BIKE.

Walking it across? Hey, that's great.

I swear I'm going to mount a camera on my car's dashboard to capture these jerks.

 

 COMMENT 536003 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 10:18 AM

It's a difficult issue. Many cyclists have been on the wrong end of accidents with bad drivers, and we all know how many terrible drivers there are. Once that happens, cars are seen as the enemy. On the other hand, the real 'cyclists on the sidewalk' problem is by kids with an attitude. There's a difference between riding carefully on the sidewalk, and being a maniac. Yes, its illegal, either way, but discretion is often the best way of dealing with insoluble problems.

 

 COMMENT 536005 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 10:31 AM

I ride a bike and rarely drive my car. I don't ride on the sidewalk and would like to see everyone who rides their bicycles on the sidewalk get ticketed.

 

 COMMENT 536009 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 10:36 AM

Bicycles and skateboards on sidewalks have really gotten out of hand. Has anyone noticed elderly folks walking at shoreline park almost being run over by careless riders? It's a problem !
SBPD could make a fortune on State St ticketing bicyclists who run stoplights. Saw a near hit of woman crossing the street pushing an infant in a stroller. Scary!!
Years ago a training video was done in conjunction with SBPD that addressed consequences of not enforcing rules of the road for bicyclists. Might be worthwhile to dust it off and have officers view !

 

 REDTOP agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 11:21 AM

I walk very slowly and carefully with a cane. I cannot tell you how many times I have had scary close calls with bicyclists and skate boarders barreling along on the sidewalk. This happens frequently on De La Vina. I'm also an environmentalist, but sidewalks are for walkers! More tickets, please!

 

 COMMENT 536033 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 11:36 AM

Bikes don't belong on the sidewalk. I was hit by a bicyclist while running on the sidewalk because he was riding the wrong way down the street and had to pull into a driveway to avoid being hit by an oncomming car, he got the worst of it. Wouldn't have happened if the idiot was obeying basic traffic laws.

 

 COMMENT 536038 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 11:43 AM

I wish a cop had been there the other day, when I was nearly run over, from behind, by *three* cyclists who were riding on the sidewalk at a pretty good clip. This was on Cliff Drive, where there are excellent bike lanes!

 

 COMMENT 536040 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 11:45 AM

Bicyclists on sidewalks should be ticketed. Sidewalks are for pedestrians. Drivers and bicyclists both should obey the rules of the road and be courteous. I see bikes on sidewalks on a daily basis downtown, skateboarders too. Bicyclists with no helmets, talking on their cellphones and blowing through stop signs, riding double and triple into the road, not caring if they are going 15 mph while the cars behind them, whose speed limit is 25 or 35, are delayed. I also see drivers texting or talking on their phones not paying attention to anything but their conversations. People are so wrapped up in themselves that they don't care about others at all but they are the ones who will probably end up in an accident, hopefully not one that hurts someone innocently minding their own business.

 

 JONEVE agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 11:47 AM

Great! So good to read about this ticket. Bicyclists don't belong on sidewalks, often forcing pedestrians off them; nor should drivers of cars zoom through crosswalks, refuse to let pedestrians cross, block crosswalks, etc. I wonder if some citizens have broken the law so many times they've forgotten it exists -- and there simply aren't enough policemen near to remind them. Maybe Santa Barbara needs a media campaign to remind cyclists and drivers that "might isn't right" on roads and sidewalks. Drivers and cyclists who are responsible and courteous are very much appreciated! I love them!

 

 COMMENT 536052 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 12:08 PM

Lilac - from a cyclist's view, we have to make a call whether to inform someone we're coming up behind or not. It is often MORE dangerous to inform them. Most of the time if we do nothing, they continue walking straight. Half or more of the time if the rider makes their presence known, the person will step into the path of the rider!

I've made the call a number of times to say nothing so I can pick the safest way past. I've injured myself trying to swerve or stop and not hit people who I had notified of my presence. This has not been a one time occurrence and I'm sure other riders will concur.

964, if the bike lane is not safe, cyclists are allowed by law to take the traffic lane. If the driving lane was in the condition of some of the bike lanes, people would be up in arms.

Why do people act as though cyclists are an alien group? We're people too, who are your coworkers, neighbors, friends, and family.

 

 COMMENT 536077 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 01:31 PM

So many bicyclists are part of the "holier than thou" crowd exuding some arrogance that they are saving the planet while all you car drivers are the enemy. They are sure they are more physically fit than you and as a result of this arrogant " I'm better than you" attitude they think they can ignore the laws that apply to them while you car drivers better not! At the same time they lobby the politically correct cowards in Sacramento to pass idiotic laws like a car cannot get closer than 3 feet from a bicycle. There is not three feet to spare between a car in the normal traffic lane and a bicycle in a bike lane, let alone a road with NO bike lanes. That foolishness is demonstrative of the large number of fools pretending to do the People's Business in Sacramento while not possessing an iota of common sense.

 

 COMMENT 536084 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 01:53 PM

I grew up learning that bicycles do not belong on sidewalks (except if you have training wheels and you are under 5 years old) - that's why the 36inches of the street adjacent to the curb is designated for bicyclists.

There is tons-o-money waiting to be paid to City coffers if law enforcement makes it a priority. State Street is well-signed with "No bicycles or skateboards between Victoria and Cabrillo Blvd" but no one ever gets a ticket there.

"Say what you mean and mean what you say" is an expression that comes to mind in regards to posted signage restricting bicycle and skateboard use on sidewalks. Sure, it's great that there are signs up stating the laws, but there needs to be enforcement as well.

Or else you end up with the lameness going on here.

 

 COMMENT 536086 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 02:00 PM

I have heard that in LA (city/county?) it is legal to ride a bicycle on the sidewalk. This ain't LA...

 

 COMMENT 536090 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 02:07 PM

I see those segways now all downtown on the sidewalks. What's the difference?

 

 COMMENT 536091P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 02:10 PM

077 - I too have had experiences with bicyclists. However, the three feet rule is a good idea - it has been implemented along Hollister east of Goleta, and I feel a lot more comfortable driving that road.

There are roads where there is no space, but where there is, it makes perfect (common) sense to implement the three feet rule. Most cars by default obeyed the three feet rule before the legislation - I have on most occasions seen motorists make a wide berth near cyclists.

However, the bad drivers do not, and this law is for them. There are many bad drivers who do not even see cyclists. The three feet lines will help. The fact that many cyclists have bad attitude is not a reason for them to be hit by cars.

 

 COMMENT 536092 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 02:20 PM

Scofflaw at the law, GET A TICKET! There are bike paths, bikeways, roadways, leave the sidewalks for PEDESTRIANS!!

 

 COMMENT 536093P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 02:20 PM

Apologists for bicyclists should be aware that one or two bad examples, some of those detailed here, especially just blowing through stop signs because you can, then in watching motorists' eyes all bicyclists are problems — and there is likely to be resentment, riding close, all those dangerous behaviors which make me very reluctant to use my bike in Santa Barbara.

 

 COMMENT 536114 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 03:27 PM

To ride a bike on the sidewalk is a crime in my book! Too often they zoom up and past me from behind, with no warning (and why do bikes here NOT have a bell on handlebars??? as in Europe) -- and if I were hard of hearing I'd be knocked down for sure.
Too many times have bikers on the sidewalk made me either stop walking or having to step aside for them to race past me.
Being an elder using a cane, I'd LOVE being able to walk on the sidewalks here without having to worry about wheels too --

 

 MOUNTAINMAN4865 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 05:03 PM

Segways are included in the "wheelchair catagory" go figure out how that happened, and who decided that, but that's how they get to be allowed on sidewalks.

 

 COMMENT 536146 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 05:50 PM

I see many bike riders wearing head sets so they don't hear anything happening around them That is not safe at all. The police ticketed my friend for wearing a headset.Now with silent cars it's even more dangerous.

 

 D8VANILLA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 06:19 PM

OP here::: wow - 90 comments !!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Last weekend, I saw a Security person, keeping the Surries off the sidewalk. This was the corner of State & Cabrillo. He stopped a few from going onto the sidewalk.

 

 D8VANILLA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 06:24 PM

But, I must say, that I like Roger's comment the best ever!!! LOL San Andreas !!! lol..... thanks Roger for the chuckle!

 

 COMMENT 536156P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 06:34 PM

Riding two abreast in a bike lane made for one or riding 4 or 5 abreast where there is only a white line is so very dangerous. Is there something they need to converse about so important that they cannot ride single file?

 

 COMMENT 536168 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 07:56 PM

Awesome! I cannot tell you the number of times I have almost hit a cyclist barreling down the sidewalk as I've pulled into an intersection or out of a driveway/parking lot. Many times going the wrong way down a one-way street. You are not expecting/looking for someone traveling at this speed on the sidewalk, so it is quite alarming. FYI, I'm a cyclist too. I think this law should be strictly enforced.

 

 COMMENT 536170 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 08:13 PM

Awesome! I cannot tell you the number of times I have almost hit a cyclist barreling down the sidewalk as I've pulled into an intersection or out of a driveway/parking lot. Many times going the wrong way down a one-way street. You are not expecting/looking for someone traveling at this speed on the sidewalk, so it is quite alarming. FYI, I'm a cyclist too. I think this law should be strictly enforced.

 

 WOODRUFF agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-16 09:32 PM

"It's a difficult issue. ...There's a difference between riding carefully on the sidewalk, and being a maniac. Yes, its illegal, either way, but discretion is often the best way of dealing with insoluble problems."

It is not a difficult issue. The law is clear: A bicycle is a vehicle. It does not allowed on a walkway. Bicyclists who use a sidewalk are merely taking the easy, lazy way, a morally indefensible position.

A person who takes this tack is not discrete--merely lazy, looking for the quickest, easiest way to whatever.

 

 PATRICK agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-17 06:41 AM

As a daily bike rider, I am happy to read about this. I wish all the traffic safety laws were enforced, for cars, bikes, and peds.

 

 COMMENT 536234 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-17 07:24 AM

As a cyclist around town I can think of only a few places where riding on the sidewalk is almost necessary because of heavy fast traffic, no bike lane and wide enough shoulder. If I have to ride on the sidewalk I use caution if pedestrians present. Wish the city would make more bike lanes so this was not a problem.

 

 HAROLDM agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-17 11:19 AM

Oh man, let's taser those darn cyclists, hogging our roads so that our SUVs can't pass them at full speed. I buzz them as often as I can, so they'll take to the sidewalks and we'll get the pedestrians against them soon. Enough money wasted on bike paths--even when we design them so poorly nobody would feel safe in them anyway. BTW buzzing is ok until Sept. 15, when that stupid "3 feet to pass" law goes into effect (but how could anyone possibly enforce that anyway)?
More seriously--live and let live. I've spent time in Munich, where bike paths are generally laid out on the sidewalks, and there are MANY cyclists who tend to be on the aggressive side. Pedestrians complain about cyclists, cyclists complain about pedestrians wandering into their lane, but on the whole everyone knows that we all just want to get somewhere and have to tolerate each other's mode of transportation.
When I cycle I'm annoyed by every car that makes me stop and dismount; when I drive I take a deep breath when I have to wait to give a cyclist some room so I can pass safely. What really worries me is all the drivers in this thread who spew bile about cyclists. You guys are in killing machines, don't forget that. Get on a bicycle in traffic yourself some day & you'll see what I mean. Take your kids out of your minivan and sit them on the bike, and you'll start to advocate for safe & secure bike lanes and enforcement of the 3-foot rule!!

 

 COMMENT 536452 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-17 03:59 PM

BRC, scooters are not considered vehicles and so can be on the sidewalk. I found that somewhere in the City code once. Bikes are considered vehicles so they are not supposed to be on the sidewalk. Sometimes I use them where it is unsafe to be on the street but pedestrians always have the right of way in that situation.

 

 BELAIRKNOLLS agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-17 05:17 PM

It depends on the circumstances.
If there is a bike lane and they are on the sidewalk--give a ticket. But places like Mission have sections that are so dangerous for bikes I say --get up on the sidewalk before you get run over.

 

 COMMENT 536517 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-17 08:25 PM

077 says cyclists have a holier than thou attitude, once again stereotyping us as all the same. 093 says one or two bad examples ruin it for all riders.

Well ye vaunted drivers of the fossil fueled behemoth, studies show that the overwhelming majority of drivers not only break the speed limit, but think it is ok to do so.

So I guess for cyclists, a law is a law and we must be punished but the 2/3 or more of drivers who break the law are immune?

Why is that attitude prevalent? Desensitization. You've seen people breaking laws while driving multiple times every day since you were born, so it's become acceptable.

Wake up! Cyclists aren't evil and breaking less traffic laws than your fellow drivers.

 

 COMMENT 537279P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-07-20 10:51 AM

@517 - I think the problem with bicyclists breaking the laws, the accidents are more catastrophic than vehicle accidents. A bicycle swerves in front of a car.... KABOOM bicyclist is seriously injured. If the vehicle swerves in front of another vehicle, the injury is minor or none. That being said, as a pedestrian, I would rather get hit by a bicyclist than a vehicle!! And, I have been run down by a bicyclist and I walked away with bruises and a minor cut on my leg.

 

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