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Empty Milpas Lot
updated: Jun 28, 2014, 8:44 PM

By Shoreliner

There has been a large empty lot on the corner of Milpas and Ortega (next to La Super Rica) for many years. Does anyone know why it has been empty for so long or if there any plans to develop it?

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 COMMENT 531440 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-28 08:56 PM

Anything short of remodel probably not a good investment on Milpas.


 COMMENT 531451P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 12:14 AM

I've heard the owner of La Super Rica owns it and was thinking of building a bigger restaurant - but never did.


 COMMENT 531452P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 12:52 AM

Wasn't this discussed before on Edhat? Something about the soil being tainted by former gas station or something. Too expensive to restore the land, make it environmentally acceptable.


 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 05:54 AM

I heard the soil was not good but the lots been vacant as long as I've been around maybe longer..


 COMMENT 531460P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 06:13 AM

There used to be a very funky, ramshackle used-book store on that property (Ted's?) that was torn down many years ago. The Super Rica building may have been in its Orange Julius incarnation when the bookstore was in business.


 MARJELK agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 07:16 AM

If Super Rica owns it, why doesn't he use it as a parking lot?


 COMMENT 531483 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 08:39 AM

Used to be a gas station I think...


 COMMENT 531484 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 08:40 AM

Yes, it likely contains a lot of contaminated soil, the cleanup of which is astronomically expensive.

First, testing is required. Usually you pick the sites you think are most likely to be contaminated so you can start planning early on.

Even if testing comes up negative for contaminated soil, and you detect any funky smell while digging that implies contaminated soils, you're on the hook and I THINK you cannot stop and fill it back in after you start.

It is a highly regulated process that is a huge gamble. Would definitely cost in the hundreds of thousands if not millions just for the soil alone.


 COMMENT 531490 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 09:02 AM

If you waited long enough, wouldn't the soil's contaminates work their way down to the water table and be moved away from the property? Maybe in 20-50 years? Could that be what the owner of it is waiting for?


 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 09:05 AM

Teds was on DLV across from the daily grind..


 COMMENT 531495P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 09:17 AM

There's a similar patch diagonal to that one up from Milpas Motors.


 COMMENT 531506 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 09:46 AM

It's possible to remediate petroleum contamination with oil-eating bacteria - some of that occurs naturally. It just takes a long time and, of course, costs money to speed up the process. But one would think the cost of SB commercial real estate would merit the attention...


 COMMENT 531523 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 11:24 AM

490 - sure, but I would think it would take a while longer than 50 years, especially as contaminants aren't usually water soluble. Perhaps this has even been the owner's plan all along!

Also, there are likely old tanks underground that would have to be removed or properly filled; either is costly.


 CHILI_CON_ARTCARNEY agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 12:07 PM

used to be a bookstore there. In a round building. I think it was called Hare in the Field.


 COMMENT 531612 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 05:55 PM

450-why would it not be a good investment? Milpas has been cleaned up greatly. Now is the time to invest before the remake is totally complete.


 CABINETMAKER agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 07:41 PM

The owner of La Super Rica bought the lot after the old building, which used to be a dairy, was torn down. They found no contamination. He let people use it as a parking lot until the city required that it be improved for that use. The expense was so great that he instead chained it off until he could use it in a better way. He is quite busy, as you may notice.


 COMMENT 531636P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-29 08:24 PM

La Super Rica is expanding the kitchen and the menu, as well. Looking forward to a next phase for our famous Milpas landmark.


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