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Lizard's Mouth Graffiti
updated: Jun 06, 2014, 4:02 PM

By Edhat Subscriber

Are there any groups who have attempted to clean some of the graffiti off of the rocks at Lizard's Mouth?

Are there any chemical removers that would be safe to use outdoors that wouldn't damage the environment, or could a sandblaster be used?

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 COMMENT 525880 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-06 04:49 PM

Why bother? As soon as it's cleaned it would be painted again.


 COMMENT 525881 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-06 04:53 PM

I don't mean to be snarky, but you'd probably get in just as much trouble using chemical cleaning agents without a permit as anyone caught tagging the rocks with paint.


 COMMENT 525883 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-06 05:05 PM

If people took the "why bother" attitude about waste cleanup, Lizards Mouth would be 10 feet deep in trash right now.


 COMMENT 525895 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-06 05:44 PM

Somebody kindly comes along and paints over the graffiti on Old San Marcos Road. They do their best to match the colors and soon it looks as good as it was before. Thank you, whoever you are!


 COMMENT 525896P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-06 05:46 PM

Sierra Club comes up once a year and picks up litter. I think that the residents up here on WCC clean up the graffiti on boulders.


 COMMENT 525901 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-06 05:51 PM

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 COMMENT 525963P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-06 09:42 PM

881, the OP asked. I agree with caution, but give the OP credit for trying to make a difference & do the work. I am grateful to you, whoever you are. Good idea to talk to Sierra Club. You could email Robert Bernstein, I assume there's a contact on his pictures page.


 COMMENT 525999 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-07 07:33 AM

What we should do is sentence the taggers caught in town to 8-10 hours a day of manually scrubbing the rocks up there...


 COMMENT 526004 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-07 07:44 AM

And don't forget that stuff in Painted Cave!


 COMMENT 526011 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-07 08:21 AM

Thank you for bringing that up. I pick up broken glasses every time I go there. Last time I had to climb a tree to remove a chair that someone had thrown up the tree. The graffiti is pretty bad. I think that the forest service could do a few things: 1) organize a big clean out day with volunteers to power wash the rocks and pick up trash, 2) add a surveillance camera and make the painters do community service cleaning the rocks, 3) add an educational sign at the entrance to each trail, 4) put a stiff penalty for defacing natural objects. It is $1,000 for throwing trash in the freeway. Why not do the same for painting a rock?


 FLICKA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-07 09:08 AM

Thank you 001, good suggestions.


 FLICKA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-07 09:09 AM

Sorry, I meant 011!


 COMMENT 526030P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-07 09:15 AM

Perhaps the people who are decorating the rocks this weekend would devote similar amount of time to site cleanup? That would be a fair exchange and it is too bad that the USFS did not require it for the permit --- or maybe they did?


 MOUNTAINMAN4865 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-07 10:34 AM

011 - The Forest Service does organize a big clean up once a year. We just participated in it a few months ago. There were about 30 - 40 people involved. There's food and a raffle, and pack goats! They've been doing it for years. Larry Griffith is the contact person for that. I suspect the graffiti removal has just become overwhelming. I have never seen it as bad as it was this year.


 COMMENT 526082 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-07 11:35 AM

Thank goodness the good people out number people like 880. I pick up trash everytime I come home from the WCGC. Take a quick hike and pick up a few things.


 COMMENT 526134 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-07 04:07 PM

@ 526030P

Fair exchange for what? The yarn is a temporary installation and will be completely removed ... that's already "fair". What is too bad is that you talk about was or was not required without and knowledge.


 COMMENT 526165P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-07 08:30 PM

A "fair exchange" for using public property, 134, in effect a rental, seems to me "fair", given how stressed the USFS is for funding, including funding for cleanup.

And there was a question at the end of mine, wondering if perhaps there already was such an arrangement, because, as you note, I do not know if that was so. By the hostility to the very idea, I suspect not.

Fwiw, I am an admirer of Christo and Jeanne-Claude's works and how they have operated.


 COMMENT 526197 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-08 07:25 AM

If people put half the effort they did into making the yarn bombs be taken down, maybe Lizards a Mouth could be cleaned up, especially the broken glass from alcohol containers.

Ya let's power wash the rocks during a drought and hang up cameras to take away from the natural beauty and put up more signs, ya that will stop vandalism I mean it works in cities right?


 COMMENT 526227 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-06-08 10:11 AM

004, I caught that!


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