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Chapala Accident Last Night
updated: May 26, 2014, 8:51 PM

By Edhat Subscriber

Last night, an edhatter was driving on De La Vina near De La Guerra and noticed something strange.

There was a blonde, middle aged woman in a black sun dress, unconscious in the street with another woman seemingly hysterically crying and kneeling next to this unconscious woman.

Does anyone know what happened?

Updated Information from an edhat subscriber

This happened on DLV and Cota. The woman fell and hit her head hard on the ground. Four separate groups of people, including myself, stopped to make sure she was ok. I was there less than 1 min after it happened. Someone had already called 911, and 2 min later the police and paramedics were there. They strapped her onto a board and took her to the hospital. The woman crying over her was her daughter, who was understandably upset.

After all the stuff that happened this weekend, it was comforting to see people stop and care. I see this kind of thing happen all the time, and every time I've called 911 the police and or paramedics are there within minutes. Just some facts to add to the discussion.

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 COMMENT 522426P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-05-26 10:56 PM

Are those the only two people you saw? Did yous top to ask if they needed help? Or at least call 911 and report a potential incident?


 COMMENT 522427 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-05-27 12:34 AM

I'm soooo glad I keep up my First Aid skills.... I take the CPR, AED, Adult & Child First Aid, at the Red Cross building on upper State street.

I've actually been able to use my skills several times.

@426- excellent question... did the OP see this and ignored people that needed help??? Although, a person is NOT required to stop and give aid, but it would have been the right thing to do.


 COMMENT 522428 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-05-27 06:09 AM

All the world's a stage; most people have been trained to be spectators and act only in their own personal play.


 COMMENT 522430 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-05-27 06:16 AM

Chapala accident?


 COMMENT 522432 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-05-27 06:22 AM

Unless you're a licensed paramedic, nurse, doctor, etc..., only a fool would perform first aid on anyone. You're just asking to be sued to death, regardless of whether the outcome is positive or negative. Call 911, report the incident anonymously, and run away as fast as your legs can carry you. Remember: lawyers travel in packs!


 COMMENT 522446 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-05-27 07:29 AM

432: Please stop spreading malicious falsehoods.

Please read California Health and Safety Code Section 1799.102.

I ask people _all the time_, "do you need help"? If I see an old lady wandering about a parking lot, if I see a man in a wheelchair trying to get something from the top shelf, if I see someone splayed out on the sidewalk.

If we want a better society, it is _ours_ to accomplish.

Make the effort. Put yourself out there. Fear not some mindless wanker who professes fear of lawyers.


 COMMENT 522454 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-05-27 08:05 AM

there are good samaritan laws to protect people that provide first aid or cpr. don't hesitate to help


 COMMENT 522459 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-05-27 08:39 AM

Good Samaritan laws cover medical aid, but DO NOT cover rescue. A girl pulled a friend from what she thought was a burning car (it was actually talcum powder from an airbag deployment). She injured her friend's spine, and was held liable for the injuries.

So leave rescue operations to emergency personnel, unless the person is in imminent peril.

This precedent-setting legal case was told to me by an EMT, and several references found online to verify.


 COMMENT 522480P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-05-27 10:07 AM

Actually, 432, you risk far more as a licensed medical practitioner working outside your umbrella of employment than you do as a good samaritan trying to help someone in need.

It is helpful to have some first aid/CPR training but even just stopping and asking "what's wrong?" calling 911 and directing traffic around someone laying in the street can be life saving and doesn't require special training.

"Rescue operations" has to be based on common sense. If a body is laying in the middle of an active street it's reasonable to move them to safety if you can't safely protect them in place.

If you are worried more about getting sued than you are about the life of another human perhaps you should A. take some rescue classes and B reexamine your values.


 COMMENT 522505P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-05-27 12:33 PM

The OP was *driving* down de la Vina and probably as a good edhatter was not using his/her cellphone, did not have one handy or :::gasp::: may not have even have one!

At that intersection/area where there are several businesses there is usually a lot of traffic, but if it had been I, I hope I would have been able to stop to help even though I don't travel with a cellphone and have no medical training. Seems too bad to criticize another for asking what happened.

Google being one's friend: In California those who in good faith try to help are protected against liability: H&S code


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