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Milpas Strip Mall Owner
updated: Apr 24, 2014, 9:04 AM

By Edhat Subscriber

Does anyone know who owns the strip mall on Milpas Street which houses Trader Joes? My car was hit while parked there yesterday and no one stayed to exchange insurance information or even have the courtesy to leave a note.

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 COMMENT 513509 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:12 AM

I don't think it will help. The owner doesn't have any liability and they probably have signs up saying that you park there at your own risk.

 

 COMMENT 513511 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:14 AM

They can check security cameras to see the other vehicles license plate. Ask a manager or supervisor at the store to review the video.

 

 COMMENT 513512 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:15 AM

Ask to see security cam videos. Might show the perp.

 

 COMMENT 513513 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:15 AM

Things happen. Why do you want to know do you want to sue? No case. Just move on, deal with it and hope it doesn't happen to anyone else. Karma has a way of taking care of these things. That's also why you have insurance (hopefully).

 

 COMMENT 513518P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:31 AM

513: Do not assume that anyone will be sued. I have been with the same insurance company for more than 20 years. Let's hope the negligent driver stays far from your vehicle.

 

 COMMENT 513520 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:34 AM

This is called accountability. Be sure to discuss with the Trader Joe's management and do ask them who owns the building.

 

 COMMENT 513521 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:35 AM

Easy to see this happening in such a small, cramped parking lot. One of the funniest comments in the past on Edhat was that Trader Joes would never consider moving up the street to the Scolaris building...the parking lot is too big.

 

 COMMENT 513522 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:40 AM

I know the feeling. My little truck is a veritable billboard of parking lot bumper bruises. Enough so, that I turn up the radio so I can't see them anymore. So as not to get upset, I just pretend it was a sweet little old man or lady whose field of vision is limited to that little area inside the steering wheel just above the dash. The good thing about driving a vehicle with a few character marks and a driver that looks like he's had a little too much cough syrup, is that other drivers and pedestrians tend to yield the right-of-way. Consider yourself lucky.

 

 COMMENT 513523P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:41 AM

Maybe that is one of the reasons TJ's prices are low. Less real estate to lease or buy.

 

 COMMENT 513531 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:48 AM

520-why does the building owner have to be accountable ?

 

 COMMENT 513533 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:51 AM

My wife's car has been hit in just about every TJ's parking lot here. (Milpas, DLV, CR). The lots are all so cramped, it's bound to happen. Don't buy an expensive car if you can't handle a couple of little bumps and scratches.

 

 COMMENT 513534 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:53 AM

It sucks. But that is why I pay for auto insurance

 

 COMMENT 513536P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 09:55 AM

The building owner has the cameras. I'll let SBPD try to research this.

 

 COMMENT 513555 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 10:23 AM

There is a security guard in that parking lot fairly often. He or she probably gets paid by the property owner. But, Y'know, you can look up the owner of any property on the tax assessor website. IF there is a camera that shows the accident and the license plate of the car, and IF they save the footage, you might be able to get a copy but expect to pay for the time someone spends trying to find it, and for the copy, which may well add up to more than your insurance deductible. Then, not sure how much good it will do you. There is an awful lot of hit and run now, and I suspect the driver is unlicensed and uninsured.

 

 COMMENT 513558 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 10:28 AM

Is your car mechanically sound? Then don't worry about it. Unless you paid/are paying too much for your car... then consider it a lesson in priority. It's just a car.

 

 COMMENT 513569 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 10:59 AM

@558, why should the poster "consider it a lesson?". It's your priority, not theirs. Yes, karma exists and yes, it's all fine and well to take a deep breath and gaze at the moon and remember the bigger things in life.

It's also a misdemeanor to cause damage to a vehicle and not leave your information. That's a hit and run. Telling the poster to get over it shows your lack of sense of accountability - which I guess you share with the hit and run driver?

Poster, definitely see if you can get access to the security cam footage. Good luck!:)

 

 COMMENT 513571 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 11:02 AM

The center is owned by a partnership based in SLO. They have no responsibility for your car, take it and get it fixed, submit the claim to your insurance and then you can try to go after the property owners insurance. The property owners insurance will then tell you tough luck, not our problem (which it isn't). Just get your car fixed and send it to your insurance.

 

 COMMENT 513574 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 11:06 AM

@531 because he owns the building. My insurance will go after his insurance. If it's owned by a large REIT, one would be wise to go after the deeper pockets.

 

 COMMENT 513580 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 11:13 AM

And this is a perfect example of why we pay so much for insurance. SOmetimes you just need to suck it up. The only person responsible is the driver who hit you. Unless you can find them, fix it and move on so the rest of us don't get our premiums hit with this BS.

 

 COMMENT 513584 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 11:23 AM

Does anyone here know how insurance works? The OP would have to pay their deductible- which could quite possibly be more than the damage done AND risk their own insurance rates going up because of something that is not their fault.

I would definitely ask to see security footage. Good luck!

 

 COMMENT 513587P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 11:38 AM

I'm sure some die hard conservative will come up with a way to sue Lois Capps for the damage.

 

 COMMENT 513597P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 11:57 AM

584 - your are clearly on track. Many thanks...but the way you posed your comment - question...you should learn how insurance works. Deductible - you pay that.
This giant hassle is not fun when you are taking care of an ill sibling and the cash goes to her for medical bill payments.

 

 COMMENT 513599 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 12:02 PM

The police will tell you to contact your insurance company. No one is going to retrieve security camera footage for a trivial event like this.

 

 COMMENT 513601 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 12:06 PM

584, If your dectuctible is more than the repair cost, your doing it wrong.

Kinda sad that this happens so often, shows lack of respect for others, and others property. Good luck op, but i fear you will just end up footing the bill

 

 COMMENT 513644 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 02:00 PM

601- Based on the fact that this happened in a parking lot where whoever hit the OPs car was likely going not more than 10-15mph, it would make sense that there might not be more than 500-1k dollars in damage (average deductible costs)

 

 COMMENT 513646 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 02:08 PM

599, you are wrong. When my truck was hit while I was shopping at the Camino Real center, a store employee was happy to help out and find the hit and run driver to get their license plate from the video footage.

 

 COMMENT 513677 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 03:21 PM

Have you tried suing the US House of Representatives?

 

 D8VANILLA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 03:33 PM

Dang it!!! I wanted to know the answer also.... but for a different reason. The owners of that area sent a written notification to ALL the businesses to instruct their employees NOT to park in the lot. Next thing you know, there was ample parking for customers, no matter what time of day it was!!!

I believe the employees are back to parking in the customer lot again, because every time I try and shop there, no matter what day or time,I can't find a parking space. And, I was told that one of their employees vehicles was hit, while parked in the customer lot and that employee was gonna get into some trouble for parking in there.

So, AGAIN, does anyone know how to find out the owners name and mailing address?

 

 COMMENT 513704 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 04:49 PM

this happened to me in Montecito Vons. I got the license plate number as they took off. Cops didn't care said it was out of their jurisdiction, and couldn't prove that it was him. I only have liability insurance so I was screwed. Initially insurance said only thing they could do is send a letter to the last address of license plate owner. It took me over a month of haggling with the insurance company to get paid for the damage. They gave me hit by noninsured driver coverage.

 

 COMMENT 513712 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 05:08 PM

I believe its a towbes building just go to public records..

 

 NATURE BOY agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 05:31 PM

OP only asked who owns the property, not asked what we think they should do and/or asked for a lesson in insurance protocol. OP: I don't know, but maybe you could ask a manager at TJs for the property owner's info.

 

 COMMENT 513721 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 05:38 PM

So sad. Just another clown not willing to be responsible for his/her actions. Not surprised though with all the "hit & runs" in the area. Ethical behavior is a thing of the past. It's a Mad Max world !!

 

 COMMENT 513746P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 07:41 PM

First, google/computer search the address

You'll want this:

http://www.city-data.com/santa-barbara-county/


Second, if necessary, go to 2nd floor of County building on Anapamu to assessor's office. Type in the address of the shopping center. You WILL be able to locate owner name AND mailing address.

 

 COMMENT 513753 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-24 07:58 PM

D8Vanilla:

I know for a *fact* if you call TJ's and politely ask, "to whom do you pay your rent" and "who owns thils building" they will tell you the verifiable facts.

Why are you averse to calling them? Or, call Rite Aid. Or call Carl's Junior. I'm pretty sure that entire property is owned by the same group.

And why do I know? Because I had a reason to find it out years ago. I called the numbers given to me, obtained the permissions my group was requesting and went back & forth over required insurances and what not for the event.

 

 COMMENT 513809 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-25 07:21 AM

What some commenters here forget is that many insurances companies will not pay a claim unless the claimant supplies full details about where the accident took place (especially an alleged hit and run) including the owner of the property where the loss occurred (or the authority over the road if on a public road). As for the commenter who says that a 10-15 mph collision will only result in $500 to $1000 in damage, I will state that I too enjoyed living in the 1980's. We just paid over $700 for the crudest possible repair to a fender that some klutz backed into at less than 5 mph. Fortunately, my granddaughter took pictures of the guys plates and VIN tag while he gave my wife inaccurate insurance info. iPhones do have their uses.

 

 COMMENT 513811 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-25 07:34 AM

Anyone who believes they will get any benefit from most auto insurance companies for these minor type hit and run accidents has never tried to make such a claim or is incredibly naive'! More importantly, even if there is some way to get coverage or even part coverage the companies often try to use any such claims as a basis to raise rates or count against you if you ever have another accident even when it is clearly not your fault.

 

 COMMENT 513818 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-25 08:03 AM

It's why I carry 'uninsured motorist' coverage on my vehicles.
It happens. No, it's not honest for someone to hit your car and not accept responsibility. But the facts are that more accidents are caused by those who do NOT carry insurance or have valid licenses to drive. We have laws but there are just too many breaking the law for it to be effective. Get insurance, pay the deductible and try to park carefully. It's much better to relax than to let small things get you down.

 

 COMMENT 513848 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-25 09:04 AM

599: Really? No one will retrieve security footage for a hit and run accident? What are the cameras there for then? OF COURSE they should retreive the footage for that! If you hit someone's car and run it's a CRIME, even if no one gets injured in the hitting.

 

 COMMENT 513853 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-25 09:17 AM

Even if you do get the security footage, the odds are that you'll barely be able to ID the make and model of the car, let alone the license plate or any other identifiable marks... Most security cameras are low resolution.

In So Cal you HAVE to carry uninsured motorist coverage. There are so many illegal immigrants driving without licenses and insurance that you're almost guaranteed to be hit at some point... and the cops will just let them go. Mostly without even a citation. Must be nice to not have to follow the law or pay any price...

 

 COMMENT 513859 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-25 09:30 AM

What is wrong with people these days...? Thinking that it's just okay to hit someone's car carelessly and take off ! Folks work hard for nice things and shouldn't have to put up with other people ruining their property or making dumb "accept it" attitudinal comments. Accountability counts for a lot in this world! Do the right thing and try to help this person instead of being caddy, sheesh. I'd go immediately to the Mgr. in TJ's and ask and then give any all info to my ins. co. so that they can quickly research this and they will, don't forget to report to PD, it's an easy enough form to fill out.

 

 THINKERBILL agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-25 12:05 PM

Local real estate ownership information is available at the Santa Barbara County Assessor's Office. It may/should now even be available online.

There are also services online that may have all sorts of real estate ownership by street address.

Find the needed street address and then just go online and Google the street address.

(To find "Trader Joe's on Milpas", I suggest you just Google exactly that.)

From memory, Gordon MacDonald built it and owned it maybe fifty years ago. Also, I think the News-Press mentioned a sale 10-20 years ago.

 

 COMMENT 513954 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-25 12:29 PM

Alternatives for finding the desired information as presented:

- search a county website o
- bug county officials for information
- ask people on Edhat
- Ask a store manager via phone.

Of the possibilities here, CALLING TRADER JOE'S is the simplest and fastest way to get the information.

REALLY. Why is this so hard to understand?

 

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