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Fog Horn
updated: Apr 11, 2014, 8:48 AM

By Edhat Subscriber

Did anyone else get woken up early by the fog horn this morning?

Comments in order of when they were received | (reverse order)

 COMMENT 510282 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 08:52 AM

Yes. Is it a new one? I don't remember hearing it before.


 COMMENT 510286 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 08:58 AM

It was the cruise ship.


 COMMENT 510287 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 08:59 AM

It was very loud near Arrellaga and Bath. I can't imagine how loud it was closer to the coast.


 COMMENT 510288 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 08:59 AM

Cruise ship in port


 COMMENT 510290 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:00 AM

Woken up early on Sola and San Andres! Sounded like it was right outside my window!!


 COMMENT 510296P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:09 AM

Every once in a very long while a Foghorn Leghorn will but not this morning.


 COMMENT 510297 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:10 AM

if it had been Saturday, I would have woke up to Foghorn Leghorn.


 COMMENT 510298P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:10 AM

Very loud on Eucalyptus Hill. Question: If the ship is anchored, why is the fog horn necessary?


 COMMENT 510300P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:11 AM

If it's this loud on shore, what's it like for those on the ship?


 FLICKA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:15 AM

Love hearing the foghorn, but this sounds excessively loud. Maybe someone could check with the Harbor Master to get the whole story.


 COMMENT 510304P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:23 AM

Foghorn? Better than having a cruise ship in your front yard. Ok - these ginormous vessels are already in our "front yard." NOT HAPPY.


 COMMENT 510305 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:28 AM

I was already at work when I heard it. I thought is was in distress blowing so many times. All I could think of was oil spill.


 COMMENT 510306 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:29 AM

That was no foghorn! As Flicka says, the foghorn is a nice, familiar, reassuring sound. The racket emanating from the horn of the stupid cruise ship was loud, deep and vibrating, like the way-too-loud stereo of a car that's sitting next to you at a traffic light. Nothing like being jarred awake in the predawn darkness by a frikkin' boat horn.

I have no opinion at all as to whether we should encourage the cruise ships to visit us, but if they make a practice of honking their horns, I'd be very happy to see them go away.


 COMMENT 510308 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:36 AM

Hey you all wanted the cruise ship here to make more money more money more money!!!... complete with norovirus and deluxe foghorn!! For the life of me I will never get the whole cruise ship concept.


 COMMENT 510314 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:47 AM

Possibly another vessel was approaching it in heavy fog ( heading for the harbor entrance ) and it was spotted on radar by the cruise ship... probably a warning blast for the approaching vessel that a collision was possible. Everyone with a boat has GPS these days, ( to find their way home ) but not everyone with a boat has a radar to spot hazards in fog.


 COMMENT 510315P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:49 AM

FYI - When you're a passenger on a cruise ship, you can barely hear the horn when it blows because it's directed straight up. Guess which way the sounds travels?

To reiterate for about the 12th time here on EdHat, as far as people getting sick on a ship, it's far less percentage wise than anything on land.

If you compare the yearly flu virus spread, children who get sick during the first five weeks at schools each Aug./Sept, college campus dorms, & even our hospitals - enter for a procedure or to heal, & wind up catching a staph infection!, the occasional Norovirus is barely a speck on the radar. Seriously!

It's just that the cruse ship is a very confined space. It's what happens when people are subjected to that condition e.g. airplane, tour bus, train, subways & all other manners of mass transit.

On, to debunk another myth, the ship isn't dumping toilet sewage into the water.


 COMMENT 510316 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:49 AM

they don't need to honk as if they are navigating downtown NYC


 COMMENT 510317 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:49 AM

Typically the wharf fog horn doesn't sound too loud as it is pointed out to sea. After all it's a warning to mariners adrift or navigating with no visual reference.

Also large vessels "parked" in a location typically considered open water are required by Coast Guard regulations to sound fog warnings to warn vessels similarly adrift or navigating with no visual reference. It's a safety measure to mariners. The difference is that a ship at anchor in the fog swings around on its anchor so the horn is not always pointed away from shore. That, folks, can't be helped.


 COMMENT 510318 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 09:55 AM

I heard the ship's foghorn from the Westside early this morning. I think its horn only sounds when it is moving. Once it is anchored the horn is turned off.


 COMMENT 510321 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 10:00 AM

LOL! I was already walking to work when I heard it. Sorry all you late sleepers were so disturbed, I thought it sounded cool coming through the fog at me.


 COMMENT 510322 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 10:00 AM

I wonder if anyone's thought of protesting (i.e. peacefully holding a sign) right in front of the disembarking point on Cabrillo. Any number of messages could be on the sign. I'd like to see how the City would react to a little old-fashioned free speech concerning the cruise ships. Surprised no one's tried this. Seems like a great way to effect change if you're against the cruise ships... passengers would all see it, the cruise company would be unhappy...

The foghorn was cool though!


 COMMENT 510329 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 10:17 AM

Yes, so typical, let's ban cruise ships. NO ONE is allowed in SB other than who we decide is, based on our personal preferences. OMG. LOL, people SB does not own the waters. As far as the horn, why doesn't someone research if it's REQUIRED especially in serious fog conditions.


 COMMENT 510331 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 10:18 AM

I'm also concerned about the noise pollution not only by the cruise ships, but also by the new helicopter tourist flights. It is definitely something we should be aware of and decide as a community whether these tourism dollars are worth it......


 COMMENT 510335 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 10:28 AM

Heard it, too, up here by Cottage Hospital. Went back to sleep dreaming of lighthouses and fishing boats; never crossed my mind that it might be the SS Pestilence anchored in our waters. Compared to the usual racket in this neighborhood in the early morning hours, (fire trucks with lights and sirens responding to calls at the Convalescent Hospital, incessant leaf-blowing at the aforementioned hospital, delivery trucks idling right outside the house, and various broken-down jalopy noises from the mechanic's garage in the vicinity), the foghorn was a welcome reminder that I live in a beach town and not midtown Manhattan.


 COMMENT 510336 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 10:29 AM

Re 329 -- the use of the ship's fog horn is required during times of limited visibility.


 COMMENT 510337P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 10:31 AM

The horn blows when the ship is underway leaving a port. No biggie


 COMMENT 510339P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 10:47 AM

The biggest racket is the five people who complain about EVERYTHING in this town. You're probably the same ones who complain about the Mission bells.

Fog horns are for safety in the fog. It's required if the ship is underway, and also so no other vessel will hit it. You live by the ocean in a tourist town. Other people want to come here to visit. It's a good thing.

There is a lot of inexpensive land in many other parts of the state and the country where you can buy acreage and surround yourself with silence and solitude. But then you might complain about the birds or the coyotes.


 COMMENT 510340 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 10:50 AM

This will require an Environmental Impact Report to see how the Snowy Plover were affected.


 COMMENT 510343 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 10:55 AM

The horn woke me up. Yeah, it was early and a bit annoying. But, please stop with the cruise ship complaints. If a cruise ship really affects your standard of living, you need to evaluate your life. We live in a tourist town. Embrace it and be proud of it. There's too much localism in this community.

And please... please don't take the advice the early poster about protesting. How embarrassing would that be for our community?


 COMMENT 510344 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 10:56 AM

So that's the reason I woke up at 6:30! Not cool


 COMMENT 510347 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 11:04 AM

We need to start banning planes from coming in too. Last time I flew I got so sick, I was sick for a month! ANd the lady next to me was super sick too! (we were flying into SB). They are bringing people here with diseases that just get recirculated during the flight - it's like a petri dish. (insert sarcasm here).


 COMMENT 510350 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 11:07 AM

Ha! There are quite a few more than five, my dear 339.

And the idea is that WE live here, and want to protect what we have invested, and maintain it in the image of the place that we hold in our hearts. This might seem selfish, but we are human... and humans are selfish. It's the same concept with our relationships/marraiges... once we find something we like, we don't want anyone else to have it/spoil it. It's nothing new, nor is it unique to SB's tourism vs. locals issue. Anyway, it's about deciding how we want our environment (in this case SB) to be shaped... the parts that we have control of at least. I don't wish to stop tourists from coming to SB, but we don't have to be so... so... slutty about it. Despite local paradigm, money isn't EVERYthing.


 COMMENT 510355 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 11:18 AM

And the train sounded all the way through town right before that! It was quite a morning. Only missing mission bells (probably drowned out)!


 COMMENT 510357 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 11:29 AM

OMG! What a bunch of complainers. Cruise Ships with thousands of passengers visiting our beautiful city is great for the local economy and tax revenue. They go home and tell friends what a nice place SB is to visit and more visitors come. SB is a tourist destination period deal with it!


 COMMENT 510365 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 11:41 AM

Being against that blast doesn't mean I'm against the cruise ships! Due to my work schedule I go to bed after midnight. Is it necessary for the ships to trumpet their arrival? If not, the city needs to instruct them to knock it off. This month alone, 8 cruise ships will sail into the harbor. We live seven blocks from the marina, yet the noise blasted our household out of our beds. The operative question is this: is the blast necessary? If not, quit. If it is necessary, turn down the volume.


 COMMENT 510366 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 11:43 AM

I just drove along Shoreline drive and the ship seems anchored farther out than others. With the use of GPS I wonder why.

(and I had to Google "further vs. farther" to find out which one is correct.)


 COMMENT 510368 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 11:48 AM

@350. Sounds like you're one of the 5 (or more).

We choose to live here. Which means we enjoy and respect this area. We're proud of it. Why be selfish about it? I'm sure we all like having friends and family visit and show off our community. But it's not ok if it's strangers?

My bigger point is, I've never experienced such complaining about trivial matters anywhere else I've lived. A couple cruise ships are a positive not a negative. We should direct focus on the actual concerns that bring the community down; the homeless, transients, poverty, and yes even... SB's obsession with localism.


 COMMENT 510370 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 12:11 PM

What a cool sound! I live 5 blocks from harbor, woke up at 6 and let the sound lull me back to sleep. Bet some of these complainers would gripe about the sound of crashing waves if they lived near the beach. Wouldn't it be interesting if every one who commented in this thread were in a room together. Now that would be one bummer of a party.


 COMMENT 510373 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 12:20 PM

Sorry, it's not true that "humans beings are selfish", it's that SOME humans are selfish. Instead of trying to blame the human race for your rotten attitude, take responsibility for your own behavior and realize that not everyone expects the whole world to revolve around them and their needs.

And unless you own the whole town and the harbor, it's not your choice who gets to visit, what ships come into port, or when the foghorn blows.


 MESARATS agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 12:33 PM

The volume and carry of the ship and fog horns varies on atmospheric conditions. Same with the trains and also the bowl. If you put all those sounds together and amplified it X10, it would be a mere chirp compared to the whiny din of complainers on this board.


 COMMENT 510383 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 12:51 PM

Actually it was a good thing the cruise ship came in because other wise I would have slept thru my alarm which would of been bad since I have to be at work by 7:30am. I've been enjoying the fog..in fact prefer it over warmer weather! I know I'm weird! Lol


 COMMENT 510385 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 12:51 PM

368 - if there is anything that upsets a local Santa Barbaraian more than calling them out... I dont know what it is.

Be careful. The locals hate being told that their place is not the most perfect place in the entire universe. And they'll eat you alive for popping their little Pollyanna bubble.

I too know what its like to live elsewhere. Where people are nice, smile at you and say hello, and are warm and friendly. Not here. They're suspicious and clicky. They do not welcome you or your family and instead act as if they're special... phhffff

Its great here but its far from paradise.

Queue the "if you dont like it then leave" comments or maybe the Nanny (censor) will delete my comments for it mentions the truth.


 COMMENT 510389 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 01:02 PM

It's coming off of the Nanovirus ship.


 COMMENT 510390 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 01:02 PM

PATRICK... I'm afraid you're partly mistaken.

Yes, a vessel no longer under way needs not sound its horn as it is no longer a hazard to other vessels, but that is only true if it is in port or an established anchorage. If it drops anchor in an area not designated an anchorage it is an obstacle and a hazard to navigation and must continue to sound the horn as warning to incoming vessels.


 COMMENT 510391 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 01:08 PM

I wish everybody would quite complaining and bickering so much to each other. I'll admit S.B. is the toughest place I've ever lived in for a variety of reasons and I'm looking forward to when I can leave and buy a Victorian mansion in another state for a fraction of a starter home here, haha. However, I wish we could all be a wee bit civil towards each other when we speak this way online. Who knows? You might be talking to somebody that you see at Starbucks in the morning, or sit by in church. Anyway, yes the horn woke me up this morning, I wasn't thrilled about it but two cups of green tea later I'm surviving and I'll get through it, I'd rather hear the horn than hear about some stupid accident that could have been avoided.


 COMMENT 510398P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 01:47 PM

Blubox - Starbuck's? Now there's another topic for endless ranting... :)


 COMMENT 510402 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 02:16 PM

Just because people express annoyance about being roused from our early morning sleep by the racket from the SS Diarrhea doesn't mean that we do nothing but complain about things. Judging from the blast that you over-reactors are issuing at us, you seem to have more of a problem with our minor complaints than we do with the noisy boat horn.


 COMMENT 510404 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 02:21 PM

Is THAT what that was? I'm all the way up on Alamar and it woke me. Asking or remarking about this surprising new experience does not equal complaining.


 COMMENT 510409 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 02:27 PM

Translation: How dare any of you complain about the fact that posters use this as a forum to complain about every little inconvenience they have ever encountered?


 COMMENT 510422 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 03:23 PM

Some of these constant complainers I think need to do some world traveling to appreciate living here.


 COMMENT 510423 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 03:26 PM

It was the Grand Princess www (dot) santabarbaraca (dot) gov/gov/depts/waterfront/events/cruiseship (dot) asp


 COMMENT 510424 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 03:29 PM

That was actually a blue whale that ate some bad krill down in Mexico.


 COMMENT 510425 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 03:48 PM

Norovirus invasion warning.... Put on your gas masks here we come!


 COMMENT 510426P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 03:49 PM

It's not just a few cruise ships per year now. Why so many and all the time, starting just this past year----that's what I'd like to know. It is a big myth that the passengers spend, spend, spend while they're onshore, by the way.

As a born and raised SB local, I don't appreciate transplants who never experienced SB in the 60s and 70s snarking about how we should all just lie back and take any kind of assault to make our town like every place else. (Transplants' favorite line: "Well. It's still better than . . .L.A., Chicago, Midwest, etc.")

It's because of people like me, people who fight to keep Santa Barbara special, that it's still as nice as it is here. If not for the locals battling against high rises and over development and striving to keep our quality of life, gawd . . .what a mess this place would be.

Wherever there is a jewel like Santa Barbara, there are people lined up to ruin it with their greed and myopic destruction of beauty and grace and charm.

I, for one don't think we need all these cruise ships. Just as I didn't want an aquarium down by the beach or The Wilcox property developed into condos.

Some battles need to be fought. If people are having their precious sleep (and sleep, as you age, becomes more and more precious!) disrupted and for no good reason, then it's time to make the noise stop.

As 350 pointed out: Money isn't everything. I prefer cleaner air and a cleaner ocean. (Yes, the sewage is dumped, at a prescribed distance offshore, in our channel.)


 COMMENT 510430P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 04:00 PM

From The Santa Barbara Channelkeeper:

cruise-ship-in-SBSanta Barbara will host a record 22 cruise ship visits in 2013, up from 2-6 visits in recent years. While some welcome the revenue expected from cruise ship passengers shopping and dining in Santa Barbara (estimated at about $200 per couple), others including Channelkeeper are concerned about the potential environmental impacts of this drastic increase in cruise ship traffic through the Santa Barbara Channel.

An average 3,000-person cruise ship generates 30,000 gallons of sewage, 150,000 gallons of graywater (wastewater from galleys, showers, sinks and laundry), 5,000 gallons of oily bilge water, 15 gallons of toxic chemicals, and seven tons of solid waste, as well as air pollution equal to that from more than 12,000 cars PER DAY. While existing regulations prohibit cruise ships from dumping any waste within three miles of shore, and the Santa Barbara Waterfront Department requires cruise ship captains to sign an “Environmental Declaration” promising not to dump sewage or graywater within 12 miles of the Santa Barbara coast, monitoring and enforcement of these provisions is extremely minimal, and the cruise industry has a checkered past when it comes to environmental compliance.

To ensure that the increase in cruise ship traffic through the Santa Barbara Channel doesn’t result in increased pollution, Channelkeeper is monitoring cruise ships when they call on Santa Barbara, both from our boat and from airplanes. We are looking for people with airplanes to volunteer their time to fly over cruise ships when they are visiting Santa Barbara and to document and report to us any potential pollution they might observe. Please email or call us at 805.563.3377 if you can help!


 COMMENT 510432 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 04:02 PM

Thanks for explaining EVERYTHING. I understand it all so clearly now. You as a "born and raised SB local" clearly have the right to control everything and have the final word on what activities and attractions are allowed in this city, who's allowed to visit, and how your neighbors are allowed to derive their income.

And unless you're Chumash, Santa Barbara was already a tourist town before your ancestors moved here.


 COMMENT 510435 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 04:09 PM

The 1960s and 1970s were 50 and 40 years ago, respectively. Please think about that for a few minutes before moaning and groaning about "transplants". What a gross attitude.


 COMMENT 510436 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 04:10 PM

Haha I knew some "born and raised here" comment was bound to surface sooner or later. Yes, let's just go back to the 60s and 70s and not let anyone in who wasn't "born here". Except, even your family, is not local. Unless, you are Chumash. In fact, SB was built on people coming to visit for the weather (and it's effect on ailments) and then stayed though they weren't "born" here. OMG. I agree with the other posters, this is the ONLY place I've lived where I have EVER head this kind of nonsense and complaining. However, I will not let that drive me away as it is my right, as a citizen of this great country, to live wherever I chose and am able. So there.


 COMMENT 510437 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 04:15 PM

I would rather 1,800 tourists arrive by boat than by car. Imagine the increase in sewage to our local treatment plant if they stayed overnight. 1,800 people flushing.

Better they do their business on the ship and it gets dumped 50 miles out. It's a big ocean, and a lot of things out there love to feed on our . . . .


 COMMENT 510440 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 04:29 PM

...when a post like this gets over 3/4 of all comments today....that'll be the day.


 COMMENT 510441P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 04:35 PM

@beachbummer - I was thinking the same thing.


 COMMENT 510444 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 04:40 PM

actually it's the "locals" that sell out to developers and move once property values go up that ruin a place like SB. Transplants can help protect a place just as much as the "locals."


 COMMENT 510445 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 04:49 PM

First-world problem folks.


 COMMENT 510457 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 06:20 PM

The fog horn on the cruise ship should bring tears of joy to everyone in Santa Barbara. Thank you Helene and Marty for making this happen!!!! My business has increased greatly since the ships started arriving, so you'll hear no complaints from me!! With the extra income I can now "spread the wealth" by going out to dinner more often. I was able to buy a nice new trailer so I can take my horses to wherever I want now rather than paying someone else. I didn't really tip well before, but now I always leave at least 15%.


 AUNTIE S. agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 07:16 PM

You are so right, 368. I'm really getting tired of all the complainers. Wonder when all those people came to live here They're the johnny-come-lateleys that all the rest of us wanted to fence out! Now they want to do the same to everyone else.


 COMMENT 510469 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 08:12 PM

I like the fog horn! Touristry is not a bad thing. Better than factories or gravel pits.


 COMMENT 510470 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 08:14 PM

So, has anyone checked to see if the sound pressure level from the SS Noro exceeded that designated by local ordinances? Imagine that, instead of that cruise ship making such an anti-social infernal racket so early in the morning, if it had been a rock band on the beach which woke us all up? They'd have been arrested and charged with disturbing the peace (and worse) before you could say "Isla Vista".


 COMMENT 510474 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 08:37 PM

426p, I'm a SB native as well and agree with your comments. Sadly, the powers that be and many newcomers could care less that our once tranquil town is gone forever. S.B.has always been prosperous and on the cutting edge in the world of ideas. We had tourists but what's happening now is outrageous ! Folks that didn't experience S.B.before the 80's have no clue how wonderful it was. It's now all about $$$ and having palms of those "in charge" greased by developers. Who wants to live in a little Manhattan????)


 COMMENT 510481P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-11 11:57 PM

It's interesting to see that most of the negative comments made on this thread appear to be made by people who haven't been here long enough to appreciate just how special Santa Barbara really is. Someone once opined that one of the greatest human failings is our ability to adapt. Why would anyone who lives here welcome pollution to our shores? Noise, air, and filthy sewage pollution.

Those of you who feel the rape and pillage of Santa Barbara is inevitable and warranted, simply because we're a tourist destination, are to be pitied. There's a reason why people strive to live here. If you're so willing to put up with more pollution, more traffic, and more development then, please, return from whence you came and let individuals who value quality of life take your place.


 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-12 06:44 AM

OK I want my cut of the Pie or else I'm going to start complaining..Helene and Marty taking the rap for these ships? I thought Frank had more to do with bringing them here. Once in awhile I'd see them before he came on board..A cruise ship is like a big Smelly bus sitting in the middle of the channel..I like that We should be Happy because We are making money..I'm not.


 COMMENT 510500 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-12 07:12 AM

Rodger: Love your analogy. "A cruise ship is like a big Smelly bus sitting in the middle of the channel." When I look out over the harbor and see one there in the distance, my first thought will be of your creative description.


 COMMENT 510515 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-12 09:07 AM

Roger is right about the 'big smelly bus'. I was walking my border collie on Shoreline yesterday. Lucie kept staring at the cruise ship and 'air sniffing' it, with her nose up in the breeze coming off the water. Don't know what it smelled like to her, but I can tell you what she usually likes to sniff!


 COMMENT 510520 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-12 09:32 AM

Funny I was in CVS on day and this guy was obnoxiously and loudly talking on his cell phone. Whole store could hear and he was very arrogant, talking about the properties he owns, etc. well he actually said something kind of funny so I looked at him and smiled and he got all aggressive and said "Santa Barbara Local, born and raised here, doing business" everyone was like , sooooo? That is a prime example of the "natives". Very small minded folks, not very cosmopolitan or sophisticated. most haven't lived out of SB and probably couldn't survive outside of SB. That is how most people feel about them at least. ANd their comments about who has been here longer just prove all this is true.


 COMMENT 510536P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-12 10:19 AM

Too funny, 515!

So you're implying that cruise ships smell like:

A. Dog butts
B. Dog Poop
C. Newly mowed lawn
D. Fresh dog food
E. All of the above


 COMMENT 510539 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-12 10:33 AM

I found the sound of the fog horn pleasant and soft here in the east side. I do have insulted windows...lol... Those complainers must not be sleeping well to let it disturb them - guilt complexes will do that to you. Times to examine your priorities.


 COMMENT 510571 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-12 11:52 AM

Fog horns are part of the marine environment and they save lives and vessels. If you do not like them, move inland.


 COMMENT 510592 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-12 12:46 PM

Interesting comments on the cruise ship! Some people love cruising and find it classy, some see the ships as filled with hillbillies, others complain about the (mostly overweight) cruiser's poops being dumped and loud fog horns, while others laud the money making potential for the city. I love America - we can live together peacefully and all have different opinions - We should be PROUD!


 COMMENT 510624 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-12 02:45 PM

Tired of all the agression caused by population explosion, everyone seems upset because there's just not enough room, not enough money, not enough water, too much crime, too much noise, too much pollution, too many cars, too many boats, too many trains and planes, too much building, TOO MANY GARDEN BLOWERS, too much dirt everywhere in the air here and there in your hair and tiny little houses with very high prices, maybe if we raise prices higher it'll attract more wealthy people which counts for a smaller population. What are we going to do when the sky starts falling????


 COMMENT 510631 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-12 03:31 PM

Sorry, everyone. I made my famous Nuclear Luau chili on Thursday night...


 AUNTIE S. agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-12 07:12 PM

I love how a simple question about being awakened by a fog horn results in a thread like this. Better than a soap opera.


 COMMENT 510689P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-12 08:45 PM

Auntie S. for the win!


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