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Isla Vista Riot/Civil Unrest
updated: Apr 06, 2014, 8:45 AM

Update provided by the Santa Barbara Sheriff's Department:
April 6, 2014 3:50 am

Civil Unrest at Deltopia in Isla Vista
At Least 6 Law Enforcement Personnel Injured

Isla Vista- Local Law Enforcement agencies joined forces to control unruly crowds at a spring break party in Isla Vista known as Deltopia which drew a crowd of about fifteen thousand people. A major disturbance broke out around 9:30 p.m. Saturday night, April 5, in the 6700 block of Del Playa Drive, following an incident in which a University of California Santa Barbara Police officer received a significant head injury. The UCSB Police officer was hit in the head with a backpack that contained large bottles of alcohol. During the arrest, a large crowd gathered for several blocks and threw objects at law enforcement personnel, including rocks, bricks and bottles.

An unlawful assembly was declared and soon afterward the situation escalated into a major disturbance, emergency situation. Law Enforcement personnel from Santa Barbara and Ventura County were summoned to assist the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Office in gaining control of the situation to protect life and property. Chemical agents and less lethal foam projectiles were deployed to disperse the crowds.

At least five more Sheriff’s deputies were injured during the course of the event. One was hit in the face with a brick, and two others were hit in the hand with bottles. Approximately 26 people were transported to area hospitals.

Individuals also ripped up stop signs, lit several small fires and damaged property, including several law enforcement vehicles. It took several hours for law enforcement to disperse the crowd and restore order.

Approximately 18 people were arrested during the disturbance. Throughout the course of the day and evening, more than 100 people were arrested and at least 44 people were transported to the hospital.


By Edhat Subscriber
April 5, 2014 11:01 pm

Driving back to Goleta on 101 South there were multiple police cars and vans with sirens headed to Isla Vista. At home now I hear a helicopter and non-stop sirens in IV. A friend reports that a riot occurred. Any details?

Reports from edhat subscribers:

  • Rioting in IV according to Keyt news @ 11. Keyt showing live video feed of a swat vehicle being surrounded.
  • Copter 1 and Copter 3 are flying in Isla Vista. Copter 1 advises that their loudspeakers aren't great so they'll use Copter 3's loudspeakers instead. What's going on at Deltopia?
  • I just got a text alert from UCSB PD: "Civil Unrest in Isla Vista. Del Playa closed to the public." Copter 1 is running out of fuel and they're scrambling to find someone off duty since SBA is closed.
  • Del Sur and Trigo is where the larger crowds have move to, they're "covered with people" according to Copter 1. Copter 1 also advises there are fireworks.
  • Kelly Hoover is on KEYT and saying things that don't jive with what Copter 1 is reporting, so I don't know who to believe. (But I'd be inclined to listen to Copter 1 since they're sworn officers.)
  • Copter 1 doesn't see large crowds anymore, but rather just "packs of people."
  • Search and Rescue on a medical call on Del Playa during time of evacuation which is scary since they aren't trained in crown control. (Liability?)
  • Bearcat is trying to make its way down Camino Pescadero.Just heard, "All [SBSO] units, deploy [inaudible] to protect personnel."
  • Sounds like they have "sufficient personnel" according to radio reports. I thought I heard something about "40-millimeters coming down Del Playa" but couldn't be sure.Officer 1: "More 40-millimeters coming to you since they first one can't get to you." Officer 2: "Okay, expedite them."
  • Large crowds gathering at Trigo and Del Sur and Copter 3 is landing at SBA (dont know why)."FYI They're shooting bottle rockets at us" according to an officer. "They're throwing gas back at the officers" says an officer.
  • Most recent report is use of tear gas.

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    Comments in order of when they were received | (reverse order)

     ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-05 11:13 PM

    Riot in IV?


     COMMENT 508916P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-05 11:18 PM

    Yeah, what a surprise.


     COMMENT 508920P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-05 11:25 PM

    Riot IS occurring. mindless stupid kids, though I don't know how 18-22 year olds are such children. I think I can use the word "Jackholes"


     COMMENT 508922P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-05 11:32 PM

    Blegh. What is it about groups of people that can so easily turn individuals into a$$hats?

    Have a party and don't trash crap and most people wont mind. Tear up a stop sign and start waving it around and bashing in windows and then now we have as issue.


     COMMENT 508924P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-05 11:46 PM

    I'm sure glad I don't live there....they are destroying cars, setting at least 1 fire, 3 stabbings, police being hit in the head with bricks and bottles. How is this fun???? We the tax payers get to fix everything when the little darling go home. I vote for closing IV and the beach next year...Just like with our kids, the more we let them get away with the more trouble they will get into. KEYT is going a good job.


     COMMENT 508925 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-05 11:54 PM

    I haven't watched the coverage yet, just reading edhat now. It seems as if many of those who take part in this weekend feel as if this party experience is owed to them no matter the expense to others. My daughter is in High School, I've heard that a lot of High School kids try to go for this. I don't think mine would have, didn't take any chances though and kept her home.


     COMMENT 508926P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:04 AM

    the beach IS closed. People bitched about it. Maybe that will be the rioters' reason for rioting...

    Many sirens on 101 in SB at midnight at Las Positas; I think they're the units called in from Ventura going to IV.

    Who owns that white van? It's not LE! Why break all the windows and beat the car with stop signs that were TORN OUT OF THE GROUND?

    This is what gets me: This is mob abuse. There is no issue that is being protested. Not that having one would justify violence, but this is sheer stupidity and indulgence.


     WOODRUFF agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:07 AM

    We lived in IV during the height of the ill-guided riots of 1970 when my young husband was teaching at ucsb, and few were quite sure what the social responsibilities were, nor who judged or supported them.

    Certainly, privileged kids who had but a small idea of personal mortality were involved, to say nothing of the important climate here (local weather and hormones being serious factors in riots).

    A farmer's child like me would--and did--have a different take on blowing out a street light in Isla Vista in the spring.


     COMMENT 508928P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:07 AM

    KEYT is continuing coverage, it's still on, as a previous poster said.


     COMMENT 508929P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:07 AM

    I strongly suspect most (not all, but most) of these folks are from out of town looking to get trashed and whatever trouble they can get into. I just don't see a resident bashing in their own car windows, or even their neighbors windows, regardless of how gone they are.


     COMMENT 508930P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:13 AM

    Roger where are your reports??


     COMMENT 508931P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:17 AM

    Mihalec & Olsen, KEYT videographers, are GREAT reporters. I thank them for their reports and will email KEYT also.

    Holy shite, second mention of rubber bullets...

    929P, I agree with you, though one never knows.


     COMMENT 508932P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:22 AM

    Roger doesn't do night time or early a.m. reports. He's not a night owl.

    Listen here:

    They have very little text up:



     COMMENT 508934 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:46 AM

    Crowds are getting bigger again. SBSO is requesting something "less lethal" to deal with them.


     COMMENT 508935 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:53 AM

    There's an injury and the bearcat is being sent in to rescue. Fire personnel are being ordered to "get out of the area."

    SBSO officer advises he "just took a bottle." Don't know if that means he confiscated it or if one was thrown at him.


     COMMENT 508936 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:57 AM

    The crowd control line is at Perscadero and Sabado Tarde. Officers just asked for another 40 rounds to be delivered there.

    Unrelated, the arson investigator is on scene for the earlier fire.


     COMMENT 508937P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:07 AM

    So......Keyt is going to go to bed now and discontinue coverage? Reallly?


     COMMENT 508938 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:15 AM

    Large fight at El Colegio and Del Sur: jumping on vehicles, throwing things and one person choking another.

    And a fight just broke out between multiple subjects at the medical tent.


     COMMENT 508939 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:21 AM

    Large fight at IV school with one subject being dragged, possibly through traffic. The responding officer just had a bottle thrown at home.


     COMMENT 508940 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:42 AM

    All units are heading back to IV Foot Patrol to demobilize. That's a wrap!


     COMMENT 508941 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:55 AM

    Alcohol. Lots and lots of alcohol. It makes them stupid and they lose control and wig out and ruin everything. Did you know that you don't need to be a member of Costco to buy alcohol there? College kids go there and load up big carts full of super sized bottles of vodka and tequila and cases of beer so they can socialize. I think they must be very insecure to need to get drunk in order to have fun with their friends. They don't believe that some of them will die from the effects of alcohol way too young, either from car crashes, poisoning, or cirrhosis. Check out the grocery store in IV that has floor to ceiling beer displays. Some people are making a lot of money from these dumb kids getting themselves messed up. Of course, some of them then get behind the wheel and we're all in danger.


     COMMENT 508943 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 06:27 AM

    They are completely filling our residential streets in Goleta (behind Costco) with their cars. I asked a few a few of them walking toward IV yesterday, why they were parking on our street. One of the kids said that there was no parking left in IV.
    So next year, if you want to stop this, just put up signs not allowing street parking for mor than a few hours during the party and enforce it.
    The roving packs of inebriated young adults everywhere in normally quiet family neighborhoods has got to stop. It's just not safe for families with small children like mine.


     EZ2 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 06:27 AM

    The Goleta Costco is the number 1 store in Alcohol sales in the nation..


     ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 06:52 AM

    Alcohol causing problems imagine that..Who woulda thought?


     COMMENT 508948P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 07:02 AM

    Reading the comments on the 'Deltopia' Facebook page just furthers the fact that brains are still developing until the age of 25... I, like I am sure many others, used to think I knew everything in my early 20s and rolled my eyes when 'adults' thought they knew better/different... Now in my 30s, I get it. Like one of the posters said on the FB page, some of the kids may be smart, but not wise... That much is clear from reading the comments on the page.


     COMMENT 508951 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 07:27 AM

    What a bunch of idiots. How about expelling those involved? UCSB needs to implement a zero tolerance policy.


     COMMENT 508952 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 07:35 AM

    Dont city laws apply for Isla vista? We are still the same county correct? Ive gotten in trouble for my bike light that had got bumped off by a pothole and didnt realize, these kids start riots, break windows and stab people and they still get to party without being persecuted.


     COMMENT 508954 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 07:46 AM

    I was out there and everybody still out at the time of the riot 9 times out of 10 was an out of towner. All us local kids (Chargers/Royals/Dons alumni) were gone by nightfall afterall the whole point of this party is to do it during the day... leave it up to out of town kids to drag it out into the evening and turn into this....


     COMMENT 508957 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 07:52 AM

    Best to teach your kids well when you have the chance, once they are off to college it will be too late.
    The people I don't get are the ones that encourage kids to blind rebellion against any authority....then they get older, add the booze....really hard to be proud of the results.
    Sounds like a few good kids saved IV from becoming a disaster last night...big thanks to the ones that helped out the cops until backup arrived.


     COMMENT 508958 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 07:55 AM

    This is very bad planning from our public safety officials. This event should have had the same planning as Halloween IV.


     COMMENT 508960 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:00 AM

    We need more Bearcats, and more tactical squads with all their wonderful new assault gear running around telling these "unlawful assemblers" to "shelter in place" like in Boston. We need 100% compliance!


     COMMENT 508963 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:07 AM

    Maybe next year they simply need to shut down IV and only allow locals who can show they reside in the SB county. Clearly "out of town" trouble makers causing majority of problems.


     COMMENT 508966 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:08 AM

    Not a riot. No in the least bit...

    When police meet drunken partiers and try to use force, this is what happens.

    The fact that the police felt their lives were at risk from water bottles and some yelling is more telling of the Police than the revelers... How sad that the SBSO has to use riot gear, weapons and full armoured reponse to handle a crowd of partiers.

    What has changed is the way police deal with these things, not the partiers...they're the same as they've always been.


     COMMENT 508967P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:16 AM

    966 - really? blaming it all on the police. There is no need to throw water bottles at anyone, regardless. There is no need to jump on other people's cars. There is no need to stab other people. There are many other gatherings in this town that do not have these results. Blame it on the guilty.


     COMMENT 508970 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:20 AM

    I don't think the partiers are "the same as they've always been". I'm 29, was prez of my sorority in college and had a best friend at UCSB. I partied hard, harder than I should have for sure, but never like this. Things have changed, but it could be all that growing up you do after college when you realize you didn't know much about the world at 21.


     COMMENT 508972 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:22 AM

    Not surprised. We've hired a few UCSB grads. Not impressed. WIth one exception.


     COMMENT 508974 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:23 AM

    Make UCSB cover the costs and see how quickly this kind of crap stops. I hope they find and charge the main instigators. It shouldn't be that hard thanks to Facebook. Come November I hope they shut down IV completely. It will still cost less than this.


     COMMENT 508976 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:23 AM

    Anyone who thinks the kids were only drinking is just fooling themselves. Alcohol is just easier to spot and test for on the spot.....seems the pot ends up getting burnt up.


     COMMENT 508977 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:30 AM

    There are three key elements that arise and produce events such as this. The first is the anonimity afforded in a crowd (especially in darkness) which allows persons to do things they would not otherwise do and get caught up in riotous behaviors. The second is alcohol and drugs which not only affect judgment negatively by removing inhibitions but also provide an acceptable cultural excuse (i.e. "I was drunk") a sort of the devil made me do it excuse. Lastly the disrespect for authority, laws, rules and property in general, particularly evident in "outsiders" in an area, which then becomes focused on the police as the front line and target of that disrespect and hence the object of such riotous behaviors.


     COMMENT 508978 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:31 AM

    Not just water bottles either. Bricks, glass bottles, and more. These are considered potential deadly weapons.

    Stupid out of town people ruining it for the locals (for the most part).

    Agree, blame the guilty.


     COMMENT 508983P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:47 AM

    Who's an out of towner? Most of IV's residents?

    Alcohol was only one of the multitude of drugs fueling the activities yesterday.


     COMMENT 508985 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:50 AM

    It seems like a good idea to just impose a mandatory 6 PM curfew. If you are on the streets after that, no questions asked you are arrested. And how about some participation in underscoring a zero tolerance policy from landlords who rent to people destroying property and endangering theirs and others' lives? And the University stepping up to expel anyone involved (I know many people come from elsewhere).
    In my day when we caused civil unrest at UCSB it was for a political protest. These kids now are just narcissists.


     COMMENT 508988 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:00 AM

    It is not only the people from out of town. It is the people who live there that invite the people from out of town, to their big party, to show off that UCSB is such a cool party school. There is the "call" to make this year bigger than the last and so on. Then there is also the fact that it is the people who live there that burn couches and break things every other weekend out there anyway, it's just that there aren't so many at once. Those from out of town are just following the lead of the locals.
    Why doesn't UCSB and CC instate a no-tolerance policy with regard to being involved with these events?


     COMMENT 508991 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:06 AM

    Anyone who thinks the law enforcement response in IV last night was excessive should have been there in 1970.

    Now, a taxpayer and no longer a hippie, I would like to know what the tab is for SBSO to chaperone Deltopia - overtime, treatment for injuries to personnel, disability payments, etc. etc. The merrymakers go home with hangovers and we're left to pay the bill.


     COMMENT 508992 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:06 AM

    Thanks "Edhat Reporter" for keeping us up to speed last night! It was very helpful.


     COMMENT 508994 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:13 AM

    What is wrong with these kids! Seriously these are the kids that qualify going to a University! There must be some really proud parents out there this morning, getting that call to bail their kids out of jail.


     COMMENT 508999 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:24 AM

    IV is known for its unruliness! Why are you people acting so surprised?

    The best thing law enforcement could have done is blockade the place and allow residents only in the area. All it takes is one out of town nut to ruin the unruliness for everybody.


     COMMENT 509001 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:26 AM

    In poor countries 20 year olds riot because they have nothing. In rich countries 20 year olds riot because they deserve everything.


     COMMENT 509002 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:28 AM

    @966 - When safety officials can't respond to emergencies, and get bricks thrown at them in the face, that's when they need to shut this kind of stuff down. They did all the right things by calling in more backup. They should have arrested everyone on that front line, seen last night on KEYT, for public drunkeness, disrupting the peace, and who know what else. They should have called in the National Guard!


     COMMENT 509004 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:28 AM

    IV takes our taxes and gives nothing back to our community.


     COMMENT 509005 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:29 AM

    I hope that the officers are okay, especially the one that suffered a significant head injury! The out of control crap in IV has got to stop. I know that there is some caused by people coming in from out of town and those guys think that they won't get caught and they are a large part of the problem, but the local students are also a large part of the problem, many come to UCSB FOR the party and live in IV to experience it... how can it be changed? MORE cameras, more security, more ticketing for underage drinking, maybe arrests for their dangerous and destructive behaviors. Cracking down will help, making it less accessible to party in IV is critical. Set up checkpoints on the 3 ways in and make people show proof they live in IV or attend UCSB to allow them to enter IV at all.


     COMMENT 509008 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:32 AM

    What a bunch of spoiled kooks. A generation of kids raised with excess rioting for no cause. Can we put all of IV in a big time out? Your grounded kid you can't use your parents BMW for a week.


     COMMENT 509009 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:32 AM

    004 It gave you something to talk about.


     COMMENT 509010P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:33 AM

    Try to put yourselves in a college kid's shoos - most will graduate tens or hundreds of thousands $ in debt with very bleak prospects of getting a well paying job in their field. I really can't blame them for wanting to party and raise hell - that's about all college is really good for anymore.

    (And no, their futures are not dismal because they're "stupid", it's because there are no jobs to be had.)


     COMMENT 509011 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:39 AM

    I sincerely hope in future years, they will just shut it down before it starts, ban alcohol sales in IV, shoot tear gas at them the minute they arrive, etc...sorry to hear of violence to officers who tried to let them have their party, should not be tolerated now that we know!! And then students whine about how there are no jobs for them once they graduate, and oh, its so sad that they are strapped with so much personal debt. If that debt is the cost of their legal fees or medical needs, then they should have an introspective look deep within!


     COMMENT 509012 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:42 AM

    But because of these other people children's stupidity they put lives in danger and for what? To act like idiots, overdose get stabbed possibly someone dies then ucsb and iv gets a bad rep. Then potential lawsuits when all that has to happen is get strict zero tolerance curfews, and open those closed minded parents that think their kids are only here studying just dont send checks for school stop in a see wjat your child is up too...


     COMMENT 509013 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:50 AM

    @998 is correct. I lived in IV in the late 80s, and we had much larger crowds than they do these days for Halloween and this Deltopia event. True, there are more unsavory out-of-town elements starting trouble these days, but the police has become so militarized and hard core, which is a major overreaction to a few bad actors. Did they really get hit with "bricks"? When have you ever seen a brick in IV? Did they really need to call in other law enforcement from as far away as Ventura county? To me, it seems the approach to "managing" the situation is part of the problem, and if you don't think many in the LE community look at this event as a way to log overtime, you're sadly mistaken.


     COMMENT 509014 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 09:57 AM

    There should have been a "trigger alert!" Now some poor students/cops will have PTSD. Awwww.


     COMMENT 509016 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:01 AM

    At that age the idea that there are no jobs for you hasnt even crossed your mind.

    I used to visit iv, 10-12 yrs ago when i was that age. It was never this chaotic. Halloween was closed off and yea there were issues but none like what i read last night.

    The police are not "over armed" "scared" or "abusing power"

    You are breaking the law, you are inciting the crowd, you are injuring police officers, paramedics, firemen ( yea, they did that too ). Yelling "f, the police" then giggling like a school girl when they lob tear gas at a crowd outnumbering them 20-1. That are not listening to the announcement to disperse.

    You got what you deserved, i would not shed a tear if they built a wall around iv and left them to thier own devices.


     COMMENT 509017 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:01 AM

    1. The party is going to happen, so, adults have to help organize a safer event with guidelines & boundaries.
    2. Floatopia was a day event on the beach, why not allow the day event on the beach where, I believe, it is against the law to have alcohol & have a real no tolerance policy.
    3. Make it a goal to give out tickets to pay for the policing of the event & let them know that is the goal, the word will spread like wildfire & maybe they will control their own actions. HOWEVER, if you give them a ticket do not dismiss it, they know most get dismissed by the DA.
    4. Adults need to embrace & enhance this event THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN! We need help, this year proves closing the beach or Del Playa is not the answer, it just moves elsewhere. I was there yesterday morning & drove around I saw not 1 police officer. I was at Freebirds at 11:15pm & it was packed with people but, their security had everything under control. Red Cross thank you


     COMMENT 509018 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:03 AM

    This situtation was completely provoked BY & FOR 'law enforcement'. What happened after that is a consequence or THIER actions.

    Media coverage was shameful - only one camera angle at one intersection. Notice how 'rioters' held stop signs pointed AT the cameras? In an organic uprising, the stop signs would almost always face the police. Some of those people looked liked agent provacatuers, brought in to stir things up enough to justisfy the response. KEYT labeled it 'civil unrest', an obvious federalized script running.

    Just like the staged coverage of Tahir Square, Egypt, where the media focused on only one area, and it was later proven that the 'protesters' were bused in, paid shills.

    The system is at the end of it's ability to control an awakening majority, and is grasping at whatever it can to stay alive.

    If the cost of LE is such a concern, this spring break event could easily be commercialized, keeping the event area of the beach open to ticket holders, which would pay for security.



     COMMENT 509019 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:03 AM

    And guess what? Floatopia in next Saturday, 4/12. No Joke.


     COMMENT 509021 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:06 AM

    I blame this on the mobile devises. They are driving people nuts and they don't know it. Our society is all about living in the moment nowadays. And it's only going to get worse.


     COMMENT 509022 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:07 AM

    Freeman. Actually what happened is They pulled out stop signs from the ground and were hitting police cars with them. Throwing Glass bottles too.


     COMMENT 509023 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:07 AM

    We're left with a national embarrassment, a shamed top university, hurt students, and three injured cops. I know the IV Foot Patrol lieutenant, good guy. I know he tried to put in as much planning, but he's new to the gig. Not his fault. I blame Bill Brown. He had a chance to shut down Deltopia, enact stricter alcohol ordinances, etc. and he skipped the chance.

    Brown probably had a jail meeting to go to.


     COMMENT 509024 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:08 AM

    IV mentality:
    Lets get drunk every two months and destroy our own stuff because we're kids.

    I've lived in SB my ENTIRE life and have not been there once on nights like these. I think my life will turn out ok. Just scared little kids with a mob mentality, but if you single them out, they pucker up real quick.


     COMMENT 509026 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:12 AM

    I was out there earlier in the week; saw the cameras, spoke with students, and it was clear - this was a provocation to bring in riot squads. NO QUESTION.


     COMMENT 509029 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:15 AM

    there's no justification for this behavior. the town was crawling with visitors looking for trouble. i hid in my apartment all weekend. it was like a war zone, the place is trashed. broken glass and garbage everywhere. so shameful, every resident who invited friends to town is to blame. we can't tolerate this kind of disrespect!


     COMMENT 509030 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:17 AM

    I would like to see a comparison of male to female arrests, violence, and victimization. What I see is a bunch of males going wild...causing crime, violence, and damage, and then claiming it is due to alcohol. Nope-its just testosterone. if you kept males out..this would not happen. How about changing UCSB-SBCC to an all female colleges? the cost to the community would drop on all levels. When men quit committing crimes...95% of our problems will stop. C'mon guys-talk to your bros and stop this nonsense-we can deal with the 5% left over.


     ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:21 AM

    I don't know about you but when theres a tank driving down the street and I'm crossing it I get outta the way..The kiddies wanted to raise hell and get their way and they lost.


     COMMENT 509036 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:28 AM

    Guess the 1950s name for IV, SIN CITY, needs to be updated to be more descriptive of what goes on.


     COMMENT 509037 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:28 AM

    How much is THIS going to cost us, Bill? You had your chance to control this, and you didn't. Shame.


     COMMENT 509038 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:29 AM

    Re alcohol vs other drugs: pot smokers don't riot. Extasy doesn't make you want to go out and throw things at people. Heroin makes you dopey. I doubt that the crowd was high on PCP. Alcohol is what fuels this aggressive senselessness. And it is everywhere.


     COMMENT 509039 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:33 AM

    Next time call in the National Guard. A few of these kiddies get fired upon, all this nonsense will stop.


     COMMENT 509042P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:37 AM

    I was miffed when watching the KEYT video that the anchor kept referring to "protestors." That's an insult to the thinking people who feel obliged to exercise freedom of speech for a cause and, sometimes, to move on to civil disobedience. These were not protestors; they were impulsive hedonistic children spurred on by social media, fueled by alcohol/drugs, and driven by mob-think, not by principles or a cause. More proof that the human brain is slower to mature than we've previously believed, though that's an explanation, not an excuse.

    UCSB carries the party school reputation smugly like a badge of honor. The "rioting" even made the national NPR news this morning. If the students want to have these periodic mob scenes, move them onto the campus and off the public streets and beaches. Pay for EMS and security out of student activity fees, not the lean county budget. And stop victimizing uninvolved residents with the chaos and vandalism. The money that goes for public safety during the drunken lout-fests centered around UCSB would be far better spent on programs that help people in real need rather than being wasted on sweeping up spoiled, drunk, entitled brats who talk big but act pitifully small.


     COMMENT 509043P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:38 AM

    EZ2 - Cite your source for that statement regarding alcohol sales being tops at the Goleta Costco.

    It sounds a bit stretched!


     COMMENT 509044 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:40 AM

    Glad I didn't go to any local K-12's or UCSB. From the looks of the revelers and the posters here, I see I received a much better education elsewhere.


     COMMENT 509045 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:40 AM

    What would happen if the police just didn't show up? Let them fight it out with each other. Let a couple buildings burn down. Request that volunteers carry the wounded to a neutral location. Request that responsible students be willing to testify against vandalism. The residents would mature quickly but somebody might be seriously injured.


     COMMENT 509047 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:43 AM

    They closed the beach and that just made things worse. Then they banned music and that just made things worse. What will those wacky police think of next year?


     COMMENT 509048 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:45 AM

    SBCC needs to stop attracting out of district students who are largely housed in IV. They are very involved the alcohol party culture, usually starting on Thursday night. That's why many resent teachers who expect them to show up for Friday classes.


     COMMENT 509050P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:52 AM

    To 977 - Absolutely spot on!

    What you other EdHatters say? Scroll up & read 977's post & I'll bet you agree.


     COMMENT 509052 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:55 AM

    Stole this comment from reddit about the guy who wouldn't leave the intersection last night:

    Last night was not a protest for human rights or against a corrupt government. Last night was a riot composed of idiots that have nothing better to do than come to our city and trash it and then assault the police officers who attempt to protect us. That guy in the picture is not tank man, he's an a******.


     COMMENT 509053P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 11:00 AM

    Checkout the Facebook page for SBpartyscene. Looks like the lirrle boy who runs this group should find another way to have fun. He seems to be someone who should be run out of town...in my opinion. Read the posts..amazing stuff!


     COMMENT 509054 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 11:00 AM

    It's time to get aggressive..... Ban sales and consumption of alcohol in IV!!! Set a 10:00pm curfew!!!! Began a law enforcement tax of $500 per resident!!!! Stop wasting taxpayer dollars on IV partying!!!!!


     COMMENT 509058 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 11:14 AM

    I agree, alcohol should NO longer be sold ANYWHERE in IV. These kids aren't mature enough to handle the effects. Also, kiosks checking ID should be key, beef up security and keep the true residents of IV safe!


     COMMENT 509061 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 11:33 AM

    Agreed 53P - People like SBPartyScene and the others who promote these events should be held accountable for the costs since they promote them and invite the people to come they should foot the bill.


     COMMENT 509063 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 11:41 AM

    Great ideas here. UCSB/IV a dry zone(most aren't old enough to be legally drinking anyway), curfew, and fines.
    Wonderful--let's make it happen.


     COMMENT 509064 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 11:44 AM

    Despite some knee jerk and understandable anger and a lot of frustration most of these posters should understand the underlying causes. Read 977 above, that is most of it in a nutshell and this not phenomena unique to I.V.!


     COMMENT 509065 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 11:52 AM

    Preparation from law enforcement? Flat foot floogies with flaws, flaws


     COMMENT 509066 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:05 PM

    Was out in Goleta for my sons bball game yesterday. I was approached by two different groups of people asking me where they could park for the night. Out of towners for sure.

    The parties will continue just as they have for years. It's silly to ban alcohol sales in IV. It's not legal and .... There's a place called Goleta down the street. Also 039 ... Hahaha. You want the National Guard to open fire on people? Wow. That'll teach 'em! I suggest you move to a country that has already bowed to martial law. We are not there yet. Close but not yet.


     COMMENT 509067 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:07 PM

    Stop worrying about gangs. We should be more afraid of the students.


     COMMENT 509068 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:11 PM

    I expect the usual suspects are meeting right now to plan the strategies for blaming this on the police, the UCSB administration, the federal government, and other such powerful oppressors. Maybe Prof. Mireille Miller-Young will lead the charge.

    P.S. Always good to get Freeman posting here for some comic relief!


     COMMENT 509070 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:23 PM

    Let them have their anarchy and see how fast the mood changes in IV.

    I'm at the point where I've written it off as a lost cause.


     COMMENT 509072 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:43 PM

    All of you commenting on this issue with criticism of law enforcement and other members of public safety, I have 1 question for you, where were you last night at 1130 PM when all this was going down. I would bet that you were all at home sitting in safety thinking about how you will Monday-morning quarterback and criticize those who were out there trying to quell the chaotic scene that last night was. I am a firefighter and was there last night. It was a very volatile and unsafe scene and the police should be commended for their actions. I guess my point is, is if your not willing to get out there and put your health and safety on the line in order to maintain normalcy in these situations, then keep your mouth shut and be thankful that there are people out there who are. Thanks


     COMMENT 509073 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:48 PM

    072, or they could have just kept the beach open and avoided this whole mess. A couple dozen port-a-potties and trash cans, and Floatopia is good to go.


     COMMENT 509074P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:51 PM

    Television advertisements of hard liquor were banned when I grew up. Starting in the 1990s (I believe) this policy was overturned and the Millennials were exposed to a wave of hard liquor commercials and movie placements. I knew something was wrong when I heard my kids discussing what their brand of vodka was. Parents can do a lot, but they can't overcome peer culture or the wider media culture once their children are 18, out of the house, and full of rebelliousness. We reap what we sow. This is a generation that thinks it is cool to drink and does not believe that alcohol is a drug. I call it "Generation A" for alcoholic. That's where a lot of these young adults will be in 10 to 20 years. Alcoholism is a progressive disease. The effects take time to show up.
    In addition to banning hard liquor advertising again, maybe we need to delay college until age 20 and put these kids to work for two years instead. Our society is impoverished when all that youthful energy is squandered on drunken parties.


     COMMENT 509075 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 12:52 PM

    Both Isla Vista and downtown Santa Barbara should have special assessment districts to levy an extra tax on alcohol. This will fund the extra law enforcement that it takes to maintain order in these trouble prone areas.


     COMMENT 509078 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:14 PM

    I appreciate first responders line of work but, as the local taxpayers who hoof the bill, we are all involved in how our public safety dollars are spent. That gives us the right to critique last night's terrible waste of county tax dollars.

    72, you wouldn't have had to be there last night if UCSB, Bill Brown and the Board of Supervisors had nipped this event in the bud at concept. Limiting party size to 500 was a lame fix, as we now know.

    What is driving the continued hospitality for this out-of-control event? Overtime? Votes? There are deep issues here that need inspection, but that does not diminish my respect those on the front line. Thank you for your protection.


     COMMENT 509079P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:18 PM

    Anything that is held on public property - the streets - should be governed by the public. If the public wants public property not be trashed, and cleaned up afterwards, and permits for any large gathering, then so be it. This will keep the police out of it.


     COMMENT 509081 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:28 PM

    @072 - if Chuck Hagel put boots on the ground to secure IV would you speak with the same support of his actions? Regardless what the media states this was not "thousands of rioters" but rather dozens of bad apples in a crowd of 15,000.

    How does one handle bad apples? Do we pick the bad and toss them, cut down the tree, destroy the entire field or ban apples altogether?


     COMMENT 509082 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:42 PM

    From a "student" in the video: "a riot outbreak of uprising citizens of Isla Vista"

    Make up your mind -- is it a riot, or an uprising? And against what -- civilization?

    Freeman: That's a great parody of a survivalist crank -- I love it!


     COMMENT 509083 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:46 PM

    Property Owners in Isla Vista time to unite. Time for a class action Law Suit against the City of Santa Barbara for allowing this property destruction to occur.


     COMMENT 509086 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:48 PM

    UCSB needs to EXPELL these children from school who are arrested & causing this trouble. Peers need to expell/repell these people too, not acceptable! The surrounding counties need to quell alcohol sales to young people (including getting Costco's support to stop sales) when this kind of situation is planned, we all hear of it beforehand, I heard of riot on Al Jazeera listing it in Santa Barbara, so these idiots have now put bad situation in the SB name instead of Isla Vista world wide, what will this do to our whole area? If they're trying to say they want another Woodstock, spread the LOVE instead of stupid distructive rioting, people lets think outside the box and stop the trouble, keep these idiots out of here! Yes to Police Protection!


     COMMENT 509087 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:49 PM

    Some property owners put up fencing and hired security to try and protect their property and for the safety of their renters.


     ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 01:50 PM

    Proptery owners in IV Can you say GREED? I've cleaned those places they are built like DEL POOPY.


     COMMENT 509095 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 02:00 PM

    With national spotlight on it now expect even a larger crowd next year. Words out IV and Deltopia is the place to be for raging spring break. No putting that genie back in the bottle. LE will need a lot more manpower next year to deal with the massive crowds.


     COMMENT 509101P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 02:11 PM

    083, Isla Vista is SB County's turf, not part of the City of Santa Barbara. Talk to the supervisors, not the council. Odds are neither Santa Barbara nor evolving Goleta want any part of that mess. The entities that ought to take responsibility are UCSB first and foremost since it fuels I.V. and, to a lesser extent City College which also houses rowdy students there. Without them, it would be a quiet little place with a magnificent ocean front that's now largely wasted on high-rent transients.


     COMMENT 509103P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 02:16 PM

    And never overlook the windfall profits made by the alcohol distributors and drug dealers during this event. Want to bet they'll only want more, bigger, and wilder for the future?


     COMMENT 509104 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 02:18 PM

    The supposed 'riot' started when the military arrived and propaganda was used to support their 'use of force.' A majority of you are demanding reinstatement of Prohibition which will only multiply Panga activity. Many are in favor of Martial Law! Are you comprehending what you are saying? Soon you'll be attending book burnings and witch hunts. Is this Kansas? Iran?

    North Korea! Students had it right all along, and your screaming will only fuel their fire to fight for Freedom. Go watch Footloose and regroup.


     COMMENT 509105 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 02:19 PM

    Hahahah too good. It is great to have police experience what it is like to be ganged up on and victimized, since that is what they do on a daily basis. The UCSB police and the sheriffs are the most despicable type of cowards. These types tackle 12 year olds and give them concussions for just holding a skateboard, or shoot them in the back with a beanbag gun for riding on one, then systematically falsify police reports so they can get away with it. They lie, cheat, steal, and jump at any opportunity to use force or intimidation to get what they want. Demilitarize these cowards before it is too late!


     COMMENT 509108 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 02:21 PM

    Seems like UCSB has a public relations nightmare, first with the "porn professor" fiasco and now this. Even though many if not most of the troublemakers weren't UCSB students, IV and UCSB are always linked. Henry Yang must have a whopping big headache right about now.


     COMMENT 509112 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 02:26 PM

    I like the idea of closing up IV to residents only, shutting off alcohol sales to non costco members (creates records of member sales which parents can see), enforcing higher penalties to troublemakers, raising the taxes for IV residents and enforcing disturbance/party taxes on IV partiers and making the UCSB students responsible by expelling them, also agree that the students should apply PEER PRESSURE to keep the peace, refusing to associate with idiots who could change any good person's life for the worse with danger. This would also be beneficial to have other schools where these kids from out of town attend support & enforce the penalties to troublemaking students to keep it all safe for the ones who are there to learn and improve life. College is a privilege


     COMMENT 509116 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 02:41 PM

    I biked down Del Playa this morning and there were hundreds of students out picking up trash. These are the people some commenters who would get hurt if we implemented your authoritarian rants about the National Guard and tear gas.

    Of course, there's another event on the calendar which has featured dozens of arrests for drunkenness and DUIs, requires a massive influx of out-of-area law enforcement, a huge trash cleanup afterwards and even two murders in the last couple of decades -- Fiesta. Will these same commenters be calling for banning Old Spanish Days, roadblocks on the 101 exits and ordering non-locals to get out of town, bans on parking and alcohol sales, surveillance camera towers on State Street and riot cops?


     COMMENT 509117 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 02:41 PM

    Roger, there are many property owners who despair over the way some the renters trash their apartments. One young hopeful decided to pull apart his motorcycle on a brand new living room rug. Then he went on to rebuilding his car engine. Some tenants never clean from the minute they move in to the day they move out. Mould crawls up the windows and festoons the bathrooms. Pets are helpful in this mass destruction too. They know it's ok to use the place as a toilet. You would not believe what a cat or two can do to a carpet. Or a dog fed beer and nuts. Clean animals as they are, cats get frustrated when they try to bury their deposits in a nice new pile rug! Believe me, it is discouraging to own and to be constantly refurbishing these places when one knows it is a waste of time and money. Who really wants to put in fancy appliances and new carpets so these spoilers can take pleasuver cover the losses. So rents go up.


     COMMENT 509120P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 02:52 PM

    The reason the IV property owners will never do anything is like another commenter said - MONEY!

    "So the little rat students trash my place. I don't return Mommy & Daddy's cleaning/security deposit. I also know a new Mommy & Daddy will move their little Ms or Mr. Innocent into my cash cow come late September & I clean up again. Ka-Ching $"


     COMMENT 509121 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 02:56 PM

    How do you compare Deltopia to Fiesta or any other permitted event? Deltopia has been going on for, this is the 3rd day and it is in a residential area. There is not one commercial restaurant or store on Del Playa. It's all residential units. Home is where you should be able to go to escape from the craziness but instead a few people invite the masses to party in the street and then are not held accountable for any of the damages.


     COMMENT 509126P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 03:27 PM

    Perhaps now there'll be a shift and the drunken revelry of IV on weekends will have a lid on it. This mayhem is unacceptable.


     ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 04:06 PM

    Yes I know about those apartments we had to make everything look brand new or we were out of a jobSummer of 88 I was one of 2 guys left it was hell work but it was a yob..Everyyear those little bass turds tear it up!


     COMMENT 509139P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 04:41 PM

    If this was "a provocation to bring in riot squads," how or where do they make money doing so, Freeman? You know there's "no such thing as a free lunch."

    Are you implying the S.B.S.O. just wanted an excuse to come in and "crack some heads" and test out their latest citizen-purchased riot gear?

    Really now, does anybody here feel this way besides Freeman?


     COMMENT 509149P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 05:17 PM

    Thank you, fellow Edhat poster: "Why doesn't UCSB and CC instate a no-tolerance policy with regard to being involved with these events?" Am uncertain how that might be implemented but certainly UCSB and CC could do something more to have their students be responsible for their partying mayhem. The call to party was initiated by ????


     COMMENT 509151 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 05:20 PM

    @072 i so applaud you i agree with what you said.. you all put down and blame the media and law enforcement but who in the heck is out there risking there lives?? you?? i think not. i sat here at home listening to my scanner when i heard "officer down" and prayed he'd be ok.. and wished i was there because i'd be outside witha a hose or bat protecting my property from all that bs.. just think of all the paramedics that were also put in harms way, those are guys that come and rescue just us ordinary people from accidents when dumbasses from iv drive drunk.. so what who you blame now?? tired of people blaming the wrong idiots..


     COMMENT 509153 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 05:40 PM

    Problem-reaction-solution. One of the oldest strategies for bringing in a police state. They create the situation, wait for the public to react, then provide the already made solution.

    All you government worshippers are going to get exactly what you want; don't come crying to those who warned ahead of the event.

    It's not 'logical' to you because you've been trained to think like subjects and not as a free people.


     COMMENT 509158P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 05:46 PM

    @140. FINALLY....after 122 comments....one made absolute sense.


     COMMENT 509160 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 05:48 PM

    You might want to read the Daily Nexus article written on 4/3/2014 "In defense of Deltopia" by anonoymous. Two days before the riot. I am not a subscriber so I can't post the link but I am sure you can probably find it. Interesting.


     COMMENT 509161 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 05:50 PM

    I've lived in Isla Vista since the mid-1980s down at the far west end, nearer to Coal Oil Point. Beautiful place. (Before then, not sure until what year, alcohol sales were prohibited within one mile of any UC campus.) There were many meetings between IV resident homeowners (yes there are still quite a few there, mostly at the west end near the UCSB faculty condos) and IV Foot Patrol and the UCSB Student Affairs people, trying to address the issue of students who get arrested for public nuisance and more serious crimes not suffering consequences at the UC. I think there was some small concession made by the university but they maintain that their responsibility is to provide an education, not babysit and punish their customers for behavior off campus. And to be sure, my sense over the many years of seeing the street messes is that the main bad actors are from out of town, from SBCC and local high schoolers, and other non-UCSB people who want to get in on the action. Always guys from Oxnard, Ventura and other locales come looking for easy pickings, in all senses. Many UCSB students and other IV residents leave town when one of these happenings occurs.


     ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 05:51 PM

    It always cracks me up the ones cutting down the police be the first ones crying like babbies if they needed them..


     COMMENT 509165P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 06:00 PM

    My son is in a program at SBCC that he will not be able to complete if arrested, or if he gets a "minor in possesion". With that in mind, he stayed out of IV, knowing he would not graduate if in trouble. Maybe all college kids should be held accountable like that.


     YIN YANG agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 06:06 PM

    Testosterone too!
    (along with drugs, booze, anonymity & mob mentality)

    Great job Edhat; good collection of videos. The student ones from inside showed the worst side, more telling than news videos.

    Since when did bashing cars with frigging stop signs and throwing trash cans and blocking streets with dumpsters become a party activity?!


     COMMENT 509168 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 06:19 PM

    (That reminds me, the UCSB Student Affairs person (YH) during discussions in the late 1990s early 2000s was very clear that they should not be called "kids," because they are adults, 18 and over, and it is pejorative to call them kids. They are students, people, residents, citizens, whatever, but not "kids.") * * * It should be remembered that MOST of the UCSB people are avery intelligent, studious and well-performing individuals. The grad students are the best in their fields, many of them, very exclusive admissions standards in many programs. The faculty include several Nobel prize winners and other highly acclaimed scholars. For the most part UCSB is great and brings much that is positive to the community, Isla Vista AND Santa Barbara. But the town of IV has big problems - it is an attractive nuisance that brings in the bad actors, even if most of them are not UCSB students.


     COMMENT 509172 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 07:32 PM

    They can be called adults when they act accordingly. What I saw was a bunch of brats throwing a temper tantrum when their booze and music was taken away and then whining that the cops ruined their fun. Not exactly adult behavior. They yell about "the right to party" but don't seem to know a single thing about responsibility, which goes hand-in-hand with rights in any civil society.


     COMMENT 509174P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 07:44 PM

    They should go an live in a country where their butts will be jailed for a year or more, while they await trial.


     COMMENT 509179P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:04 PM

    Hope someone posts of those who were arrested, how many were students from UCSB or CC.


     COMMENT 509187 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 08:53 PM

    I couldn't agree with you more 140 (deleted)! Very well said!


     OLD TIMER agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 10:38 PM

    I would hope the police have undercover cops in the crowd taking videos of the rioters heaving potentially lethal objects, identifying them and planning on visiting them at a later date with arrest warrants. I can hope can't I?


     COMMENT 509197 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-06 11:54 PM

    For at least 25 years I have witnessed the pilgrims heading for Isla Vista, where the "promise" of wild parties and a crazy night to remember draw them into the unknown. High school kids, SBCC students, and others, many out of towers who have heard the legends of IV, come like zombies, walking 3 or 4 abreast into the half square mile townlet hoping to stumble upon the greatest night of their life so far. I have seen some rather disappointed groups much later in the night still stumbling around, hoping to find the place, the party they can crash or be invited into, wherever the action is. Truth is, this is mostly hype, and there's not much real action, just some houses/apartments with a lot of alcohol and people acting up. Playing beer pong is one of the more lively and interesting passtimes. If there is a live band that's great because people are doing something real, but the noise ordinance squelches that sort of thing fairly early in the evening. I kind of think that lifting the damn noise ordinance and letting the garage bands pop up all over DelPlaya again where people have somewhere to go and something real to do might make partying in IV more human again. People might be less desperate to shake things up in a destructive way. Real street dancing!


     COMMENT 509230 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-07 09:03 AM

    Enter the taser.


     COMMENT 509231 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-07 09:03 AM

    From Wednesday's Independent:
    Six tower surveillance cameras (pictured) have sprung up in Isla Vista in advance of this Saturday’s Deltopia. UCSB purchased the mobile cameras??—??it’s unclear how long they will stay up??—??and Sheriff’s deputies will monitor the live stream on Saturday.


    I wonder when we'll see some of this footage.


     COMMENT 509268P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-07 10:57 AM

    No fear of that, Oldtimer!

    The cops & fire dept. ALWAYS have a number of people planted in the crowd, wearing civilian clothes, filming, snapping pics, etc.

    In this era where every kid with a smartphone seems to video everything, the undercover people blend in very well.

    As they used to say, "Film at eleven."


     COMMENT 509277P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-07 11:22 AM

    I'll bet the SBSO will see some pretty interesting footage from this weekend's Deltopia disaster via the newly installed camera towers in IV.

    You think a few UCSB students might be sitting in classes this week wondering if they're going to get called out of class? Hmmmm

    Honestly, I'll bet a few are sweating it. It wasn't all out of towers doing the illegal stuff.


     COMMENT 509301P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-07 12:33 PM

    I personally believe that the legal age of adulthood should be moved back to 21. We now have a substantial body of work documenting the brain development that occurs in this age group. These are not adults and should not be treated as such.
    I feel that the "treat them as adults" mantra of college administrators is just a way to make their lives easier. Also, it's an easy way to weed out people in an overcrowded world. Students who need more guidance are labeled losers and kicked out of the system.
    Many (if not most) of the people on Edhat went to college during a time when colleges assumed the parental role and their were many strict guidelines on behavior. Maybe that is what helped make us successful and not our innate virtue.


     COMMENT 509390 agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-07 06:26 PM

    ha, 301P, do you remember why they changed the age of majority from 21 to 18? Because during the Vietnam war, people (rightly) complained that kids were being drafted at 18 to fight in a war when they couldn't even vote. So, rather than wait to draft them at 21, they lowered the voting age. Even though they don't have a lot of common sense at that age, they make the best soldiers - they're strong, have good reflexes, vision and hearing, they are "invincible," and can be ordered into whatever situation the leader sees fit.


     AUNTIE S. agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-07 06:59 PM

    Who ARE you, 966?


     COMMENT 509409P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-07 09:32 PM

    Can we have mug shots of those arrested? It'll help in knowing who NOT to hire...


     COMMENT 509412P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-07 10:50 PM

    301 et al: regarding the age of adulthood. Odd how colleges consider 18 year olds adults but tuition is considered by the same colleges based on those adult students' parent's income.


     COMMENT 509597P agree helpful negative off topic

    2014-04-08 04:15 PM

    Ribbit...Yes, I do remember.
    @412P...college administrators talk out of both sides of their mouth on this issue. They also use HIPPA laws to insulate themselves from responsibility. I think the only sensible solution is to stop sending most young people away to college at 18. It becomes a dumping ground so parents don't have to deal with their children's bad behavior. The student loan bill for this extended adolesence is atrocious. And it's a terrible waste of our tax dollars.


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