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Elephant Bar Cleanup
updated: Mar 26, 2014, 1:43 PM

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A subscriber saw people cleaning up the former Elephant Bar. Is there any news on what is going in there?

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 COMMENT 506060 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 02:21 PM

Yeah saw that too, the sign is down and there have been work trucks there for a few weeks. What's it going to be???

 

 COMMENT 506061 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 02:26 PM

Please, please be a restaurant!!!

 

 COMMENT 506062 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 02:35 PM

I know it's to small....and to much to hope for....and people will get mad...but could we possibly get a WalMart? ...someplace?

 

 COMMENT 506066 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 02:42 PM

I heard from some of the folks working on the site that Red Lobster plans to take over that location as they are somehow connected to the former Elephant Bar franchise. This would be awesome to finally have in Santa Barbara. The best seafood restaurant I've ever dined at and this location being so close to the ocean should make for even fresher dishes. Best of all those Cheddar Bay Biscuits, oh so good and they just keep them coming. Cheddah Bay!

 

 COMMENT 506070 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 02:54 PM

i heard it was going to be a 101 CAFE.

 

 COMMENT 506073 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 03:07 PM

Wow, you really think Red Lobster serves items fresh from the sea????

 

 COMMENT 506076 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 03:13 PM

@6073 Red Lobster serves typically impeccably fresh and well prepared seafood. Much better that what we currently have available here for the most part.

 

 COMMENT 506083 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 03:30 PM

It's going to be a Del Taco

 

 COMMENT 506084 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 03:30 PM

Please don't be so naive that you think the red lobster manager will be down at the harbor buying fish------ Next time you tuck into a Red Lobster "Endless Shrimp" special or score some $7-per-pound salmon at a supermarket, consider this: You're very likely eating imported seafood raised on a factory-style farm in Asia—and it almost certainly was never inspected by the Food and Drug Administration on its way into the country and onto your plate.

 

 FANGIRL agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 03:35 PM

Absolutely right on 084. That's why I never buy seafood from Costco anymore. Miss those good deals, but can't get certain pictures out of my mind ... Give me Brophy's with locally caught seafood any time, even if it is more expensive.

 

 COMMENT 506088 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 03:46 PM

I would rather see an Olive Garden than a Red Lobster!

 

 COMMENT 506090 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 03:58 PM

Brophy's doesn't exclusively sell local fish. Don't fool yourself.

 

 COMMENT 506092 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 04:02 PM

@FANGIRL Typically none of the seafood served at Brophy's is locally caught. Occasionally they will have a local sea bass special or something similar, but 99% of it comes from the very sources you bemoan. The world famous chowder is a quality canned variety they doctor up a bit, hardly from scratch. Doesn't necessarily make it bad, but have to call a spade a spade.

 

 COMMENT 506093 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 04:03 PM

604: Welcome to the new world. Your description of how the fish/shrimp/etc. is raised is true in part, but a lot of seafood comes from sources in Honduras, Chile, Australia, and so on. I laugh when I see products labeled "organic." My father used to sell "organic" carrots grown at our family farm that had odd growth patterns (sometimes the root would contact a small rock and grow sideways or have double or stubbie stems). He was old school and loved it the "hippie types," as he called them, would buy up all the odd looking carrots thinking they were actually different from the rest of the "non-organic" ones.....plus, he charged MORE for the little gems! What a hoot!! The target market for organic products is identical to the socially conscious people who "feel" they are saving the world by purchasing hybrid/electric cars. I grow almost all of my own vegetables and wish more people did as well. Treat your body well my friends....garbage in; garbage out.

 

 COMMENT 506094 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 04:08 PM

I used to work at some of the "local" seafood restaurants. Most of the stock is frozen, that comes from many parts of the world, and on a pinch we used to drive to costco and buy some frozen fish boxes from them if we ran out.

 

 COMMENT 506096P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 04:29 PM

Cringing at the thought that anyone would consider Red Lobster or Olive Garden good food.

I hope something good and unique fills the space left by the elephant (which was also NOT a good restaurant, at least not for the last 5 years or so)

 

 COMMENT 506098 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 04:48 PM

Olive Garden DOES provide good food at reasonable prices. And get this wine lovers, Olive Garden allows you to taste from their wine selection before you commit to ordering a glass. My wife tasted three white wines before deciding on one; no worries. Olive Garden gets our business when we're on the road and looking for a decent restaurant, and by the size of the line to get in, many other diners choose this establishment as well.

 

 COMMENT 506101 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 04:53 PM

6093... it's true that what we think of "organic" and what the industry knows is organic are two very different standards.

However, it's sad to hear that some farmers take advantage of those differences to knowingly rip off their customers for a few extra pennies - no different than, for example, corporate giants like Cox Cable or Enron.

Are there any honest businessmen or farmers anywhere anymore? Or is the bottom line all the matters any more; shareholder value over customer service?

 

 COMMENT 506102 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 04:54 PM

I cannot imagine a restaurant that would satisfy everyone. It would be great if half the people liked it. I won't be swayed by a few negative comments but I am encouraged by some of the positive suggestions. Some of the best seafood I have ever eaten came from a small roadside takeout place at the terminus of the Mukilteo Ferry. Many people wouldn't dare sample it.

 

 COMMENT 506118 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 06:13 PM

I frequent a lot of local places...BUT...would love a PF Changs in this town!!

 

 COMMENT 506120P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 06:25 PM

I'd settle for a well funded restaurant with a talented chef, great food and someone who knows how to market properly. Let's keep the money in Santa Barbara! Those chain restaurants are too cookie cutter for me.

 

 COMMENT 506133 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 07:06 PM

I refuse to eat at chain restaurants. Disgusting. Olive Garden? PF Changs? Red Lobster? UGHGHGH. No. We are above that. Goleta should have access to a decent restaurant that serves great food, not canned or frozen mass production garbage.

I'm also saddened that a farmer would take advantage of others by claiming to have organic produce. It's criminal really. Shame on your dad.

102... My parents live on Whidbey Island. I've had to take that darn ferry a time or two over there and have eaten at that diner while waiting. It's been a while though. Little too slow up there for this L.A. girl.

 

 COMMENT 506140 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 07:26 PM

I want Red Robin back.

 

 MISTA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 07:29 PM

LOL! On display is just an example of SB Snobbery...! "We are above that..." Please. Go back to Ohio or where ever you came from. There is nothing wrong with a Cheesecake Factory, PF Changs, or for that matter Olive Garden... Judging by the clientele it would get from UCSB and the good "working people" of Goleta, it would no doubt succeed.
We DON'T need another $14 burrito or $20 plate of rice, beans and some shredded chicken with sauce over it and call it fantastic snobby Mexican...(Los A.)

 

 COMMENT 506142P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 07:34 PM

Ya see!!!

 

 COMMENT 506143P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 07:36 PM

Mista, you are eating at the wrong places! Try El Bajio, Los Agaves, Mayos and many, many others. Good food at good prices.

I do get sucked in to Red Lobster commercials. I also know it can't be as good as it looks.

You can actually ask the restaurant owner to show you the provenance tag of seafood. Or at least go by safe/good buy/environmental seafood recommendations (Monterey Bay Aquarium Seafood Watch)

 

 COMMENT 506144 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 07:38 PM

I will second Red Robin. And pray that it is not WalMart.

 

 COMMENT 506149 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 07:48 PM

The Elephant Bar is a chain. I got nothing against them, but I also don't go looking for them often either. I did enjoy the Elephant Bar and Red Robin when it was here.

 

 COMMENT 506153 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 07:54 PM

Thank you Mista!

 

 COMMENT 506154 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 08:00 PM

Applebee's

 

 COMMENT 506158 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 08:11 PM

Red lobster, olive garden, chilies, elephant bar, ex...... Terrible processed food that people think is fresh. How do you think things stay in the freezer with a menu 10 pages thick? Processed garbage with preservatives to stay in the freezer longer. Please eat smart your body will love you back.

 

 COMMENT 506160P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 08:16 PM

Personally, I'd hate to see a Walmart, Red Lobster, Olive Garden, etc. They are the retail/restaurant equivalents of clear cutting loggers. I'm in favor of no chains.

 

 COMMENT 506168 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 08:55 PM

Yard house?

 

 COMMENT 506170P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-26 09:22 PM

I think a Woodranch BBQ would be a great restaurant at this location.

 

 RICH agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 12:51 AM

I'll second that vote for a Woodranch BBQ. Unfortunately, the location is not ideal for any dining establishment.

 

 LALALALA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 06:14 AM

If you want franchise food, there's plenty of it north and south of here. Yes, we are ABOVE that 'affordable' crap they serve at above mentioned chain restaurants. We have the best Farmer's and Fisherman's markets here, another fine chef could do well in that local.

 

 COMMENT 506194 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 07:24 AM

Almost every chain and franchise restaurant mentioned in this thread started off as a well-run and much-admired single local location and then expanded to more locations when they were successful. The ones that became national chains were the ones that scaled decently well.

Pick your favorite obscure local place and contemplate it for a minute . . . now answer me this: If there were 200 identical places in half the fifty states selling the same menu prepared the same way with similar layout, decor, and staff uniforms, would you still enjoy it? or would the thought of "franchise food" put you off? Point to ponder . . .

 

 COMMENT 506197 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 07:31 AM

I haft to agree Los Agaves is way overrated.

 

 COMMENT 506199 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 07:44 AM

Santa Barbara needs a Zankou chicken place in the worst way. This would be a perfect location.

 

 COMMENT 506203 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 07:53 AM

The smugness in here is saddening. Just because it is a chain certain Santa Barbara residents think it is food only for the peasants and call the food crap. The reality is Red Lobster serves far fresher and well prepared seafood than the bland and previously frozen fare served at Brophy's and many other local establishments. With Red lobster's buying power they are able to source some of the finest and freshest seafood and even serve locally caught if the location is near the sea, I don't see Brophy's doing that. Also Red Lobster serves Cheddar Bay Biscuits as part of your meal. They just may be the best baked bread item ever produced. Open your mind a bit and give it a try. You'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

 COMMENT 506204 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 07:58 AM

Yard house or Olive Garden have my vote!

 

 COMMENT 506206 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 08:00 AM

Personally, I'd like to see a Friendly's, Shoney's or HomeTown Buffet in that location. Now I've made myself hungry. Off to Dennys for breakfast....

 

 COMMENT 506212 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 08:25 AM

Lol. The owner of hooters bought the old E-bar...
It was in the paper..

 

 COMMENT 506218 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 08:47 AM

I've eaten at Red Lobster - certainly doesn't taste like fresh seafood to me. I've eaten at Olive Garden - very salty, not that great food. I've eaten at Red Robin - can't understand why anyone thinks their food is that great.
Any decent restaurant will let you taste the wine before ordering a glass - surprised a chain like Olive Garden does.
Some people just have not really eaten fresh, non-processed, unfrozen food and so have no idea how good it can be. We all have the freedom to choose where we want to spend our money. I choose not to eat at restaurants that serve over processed, not fresh, bland food. For those that like that stuff, they can have it. I'm not going to name my favorite restaurants because they already have plenty of clientele who actually enjoy good tasting, fresh food.

 

 COMMENT 506219 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 08:49 AM

Let's hear from those who have recently enjoyed fresh local salmon.

 

 COMMENT 506223 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 08:57 AM

Hooters will do very well there. No shortage of UCSB job applicants.

 

 COMMENT 506247 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 09:47 AM

If you want to buy local wild caught seafood and a very decent price contact Wild Local Seafood.

Maybe Brophy's bought The Elephant Bar, they sure have ben buying up a lot of restaurants and bars in town.

Red Lobster.....ewwwwwww

 

 COMMENT 506252 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 10:00 AM

Red Lobster and Olive Garden are both owned by Darden Restaurants. Red Lobster has big financial issues and will be downsizing or sold. If they invest here anywhere it would be Olive Garden. The location doesn’t work for a destination one up. Location, location, location works for restaurants as well as houses. Something that draws in both goleta and UCSB students works .. Oh we had that in the eBar until the city wouldn't work with them. So its been closed - how much money did the city lose? And as the landlord they are responsible for the teardown before a new tenant will come in.

Not a surprise - in business it goes, those that can DO, those that can't work for government.

 

 COMMENT 506265 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 10:23 AM

If you want fresh local sea food get it through Community Seafood like I do. Fresh caught local fish every week! Check out their website! Great stuff!

 

 COMMENT 506266 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 10:28 AM

I think many of you are missing the point about chains. It is not so much the quality of the food as it is the gentrification of our country.

Do you want the same everywhere? I personally do not.

Most seafood comes via San Pedro. Enterprise and Boathouse/Fishhouse both have owners that work with local fisherman mostly WSB, Halibut and Rockfish( Vewrmillion).

 

 COMMENT 506272 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 10:39 AM

The property is currently for lease and since it officially came to the market on Monday (3/24), they are most likely cleaning up the property so it will show better. I think another restaurant would be great! I loved Elephant Bar and would like to see something similar occupy the space.

 

 COMMENT 506273 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 10:41 AM

Clearly 506203 works for Red Lobster advertising with their ongoing repeat button "Cheddar Bay Biscuits". Way to get the SEO branding in there, your boss is super proud of you.

Red Lobster's food was prepared so uncleanly, so unhealthily, it sent me to the ER with anaphylactic shock. This from the establishment in neighboring Oxnard. So, no - the food there isn't fresh nor is it good for you. Unless you're actively trying to end your life or someone else's.

If the location is filled by a chain - so be it. There are plenty of places in town I won't frequent, and if this becomes a Red Lobster that's one more empty parking spot the rest of you fools can use to your heart's content - until it stops beating because of the food, that is. Caveat comestor.

 

 SHAKEY agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 10:44 AM

They are putting a huge marijuana dispensary in there.

 

 COMMENT 506282 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 11:02 AM

Peppermint Rhino?

 

 COMMENT 506288 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 11:20 AM

You see peeps, before red lobster there was Seafood Broiler, THAT was good food, but it wasn't local some was frozen and didn't last either and RLobster is getting hit hard with shrimp prices so they'll pass it on to us of course. I can't figure out why people think that a name gives the food a "fresh caught" stance on the menu when it's very hard for the local fresh fishing community to sell that much fish to supply our hungry mouths and pension for less expensive foods which would be fished elsewhere. Get smart if you want fresh be a patron of our local fishermen at the docks and learn how REALLY FRESH FISH tastes and feels, you'll never forget it!

 

 COMMENT 506300 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 11:49 AM

Communityrealestate just burst my restaurant bubble. Oh well.

 

 COMMENT 506309 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 12:17 PM

223 gets my vote. A Hooters or Wingstop or Buffalo Wild Wings would do great that close to UCSB.

 

 COMMENT 506310 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 12:22 PM

We do not have one decent (key word) barbecue place on the entire South Coast. It would be lovely if we had a place we could go that served decent BBQ brisket. The location would be great for a Texas barbecue restaurant, maybe with outdoor tables and entertainment. This is a NATURAL LOCATION for a barbecue house!

 

 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 12:30 PM

Hooters would be a very very nice addition to Santa Barbara and would probably help get some of us older guys up, and out more often...:))))))))))))))

 

 COMMENT 506316 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 12:30 PM

How 'bout a strip joint, instead?

 

 COMMENT 506331 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 12:52 PM

@506273 Are you sure you dined at Red Lobster? All chefs at Red Lobster are certified Lobstartisans who ensure all meals are prepared cleanly and properly (they have the cert. pin on their jackets usually). I have never had anything like the experience you suggest. Seafood is sourced locally whenever possible and often showcased on some really awesome specials. Of course the Cheddar Bays though are the unique treat and baked fresh all day long. Give them another try, one in SB would be great for a lot of us seafood fans.

 

 COMMENT 506347 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 01:26 PM

I work in that area. Personally I had hoped that Signature would just take over the property and make it part of their set-up. This is an industrial area - a restaurant really has no place there. I don't miss the E-bar's drunken fool customers driving stupidly down the frontage road and onto the small street where my business is because they are too blasted to find Hollister. A little bit of Get Off My Lawn for y'all......just want to work in peace....there's a lot going on.

 

 THINKERBILL agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 05:23 PM

Might anyone interested call the City's Airport Management and ask? How many square feet is available? What's the asking price for rent? Brief details of the Lease Offering?

Edhat, your readers might enjoy reading lots of news of real estate available for lease about town? :-)

 

 COMMENT 506435 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 05:44 PM

For those advocating for more chain restaurants, I strongly encourage you to leave the SB Bubble and head to SF or even LA for some really good (non-chain) food. We need more locally-owned, innovative restaurants, and less chains. Yup, it costs a bit more to buy quality ingredients but why settle for slop?

 

 COMMENT 506476P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-27 08:26 PM

...the thing to remember about national or regional chain restaurants is they are beholden to a certain business model, must use certain suppliers, must keep wages and costs low and covers( meals sold) high. They accomplish their sales goals by sourcing cheaper and cheaper goods and supplies. Always squeezing their suppliers and floating their accounts payable as long as they possibly can. They're in it for maximum NET profit, period. Any romanticizing about quality goals and claims is pure fantasy. NOW, local shops are a different dish altogether. Can go either way, depending on whether someone is in it for the long run, or for short-term profits or losses. Choose wisely if fine quality and a long term dining relationship is your goal.

 

 COMMENT 506511 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-28 08:20 AM

Next time someone on the EdHat wonders why so much food in SB is mediocre at best, just reference this thread...098, 088, 076, 068,118,140, MISTA 154, 194.......not a single one of these hoped for businesses sells fresh proteins (meat, poultry or seafood..not a one), not a single one buys produce from a local distributor or grower and not a single kitchen employee is trained to cook any food other than what is on a specific menu thus ensuring a career of low level, low skilled, low paid, manual work - with or without a 'lobstertarian' pin.....
I have no prob w multi unit businesses only those that just take take take from their communities....

 

 COMMENT 507367 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-31 11:30 AM

How about a Copper Coffee Pot with shelves of Earthling books and a fireplace and some hand-crafted Crispin leather sandals for sale, all meals served on pottery from the Sunday art show? Shoes optional, just like the Tea House on Canon Perdido. Blah.

 

 COMMENT 507867 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-04-02 07:48 AM

Fresh local caught Salmon??? What is this 1994??

 

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