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California Drought Tax
updated: Mar 17, 2014, 1:36 PM

By Edhat Subscriber

Has anyone else noticed that some restaurants around town started charging a California Drought Tax for water?

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 COMMENT 503583 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 01:39 PM

I don't believe it.

 

 COMMENT 503589P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 01:48 PM

Same topic, different point: I heard from a friend who lives in Montecito that they got a notice from their water district that they expect to be out of water by August. Anyone else heard this? BTW, I don't think they (restaurants) can do this can they?

 

 COMMENT 503590 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 01:49 PM

Save water, drink beer.

 

 COMMENT 503591 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 01:50 PM

589P, yes, this was an hot topic about two months ago...your friend is just NOW hearing about this?

 

 COMMENT 503594 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 01:52 PM

A "tax" is charged by and payable to some government entity.If a restaurant is charging for water, there is nothing illegal about doing that, although it is contrary to local custom and people will be very irritated, to the point of leaving or of finishing the meal, but not ever coming back.

 

 COMMENT 503596 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 01:54 PM

I'm calling nans on this one.

 

 COMMENT 503597P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 01:57 PM

591, I am not sure when she heard the news but she just told me about it this past weekend and I do see her regularly.

 

 COMMENT 503602P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 02:12 PM

not true your friend is wrong, although at the same time our landlord is basing rent increases on the fact city keeps raising water and trash rates by around 5% every year.

 

 COMMENT 503609 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 02:24 PM

The City does not raise water rates 5% each year. They have to go before city council to do so, which requires a vote.

 

 COMMENT 503614 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 02:31 PM

Just a suggestion, but when someone writes Edhat with this sort of allegation, it might be better if Edhat staff get more details before posting, otherwise it's not really that useful, and gets the pinwheel spinning...

 

 COMMENT 503616P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 02:36 PM

503609 I realize that but on average they raise it about that amount every year. I looked it up after he told me, just google santa barbara water rate increase by year and each year you usually see a story where the rates are getting raised. They did it last year another one coming up this year in June, it happened in 2011 and I think 2012 as well. If its not water one year then its wastewater, or trash or both.

 

 COMMENT 503625 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 02:48 PM

614 - I'm guessing they might if they had more resources.

 

 SBHOPE agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 03:14 PM

I agree with 614. Such posts with such limited detail are completely useless and distract from the value of this site.

 

 GRITZ agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 03:45 PM

call the restaurant and ask....

 

 COMMENT 503657 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 04:15 PM

During the drought in the late 80's/early 90's, restaurants just simply did not serve water automatically, you to ask for it. Perhaps they can take up this practice again to conserve water.

 

 COMMENT 503669 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 04:33 PM

@57 yes and they had a little notice on each table that stated in order to be served water you had to request it because they were conserving due to the drought.

Oh and that's when we got the mandatory low flow toilets that were supposed to conserve water, you know the ones you have to flush 2 or 3 times.

Let's turn off all the fountains in town and catch and conserve all the rain water that flows to the ocean and require mandatory closure of all swimming pools and of course enforce no lawn or garden watering. Even all of this would probably have a minimal impact on the drought.

 

 FLICKA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 04:37 PM

On the Montecito water issue, seems to me we've had the information here on Edhat that the district will be out of water this summer IF people don't cut water use by 30%

 

 COMMENT 503682 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 04:48 PM

Don't forget building a boatload of new houses in Goleta!

 

 COMMENT 503691 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 05:18 PM

Water is not a cheap commodity. About HALF of the energy consumed in California (38% of nat gas, and 12% of electricity) goes to pumping and processing water.

We've just been conditioned to think that it's plentiful and should be free. It is not. So when you see your rising water bill, think about how much energy it took to get to your tap.

 

 COMMENT 503693 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 05:22 PM

614 & SBHOPE- that's the nature of edhat. People ask questions with limited information to get more information from others. It's a conversation, not a news report.

 

 COMMENT 503702P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 05:39 PM

I agree, please name the restaurants in question.

Then somebody call make a few simple calls to verify.

That's the only way to solve this issue.

 

 COMMENT 503719 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 07:33 PM

"California Drought Tax"? I've not heard about that until now. Why are only some restaurants collecting it for the cash strapped California Treasury? Very strange, indeed.

 

 COMMENT 503723 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-17 07:45 PM

14 is right on. A lot of people could say they have a friend who heard something. That is not a starting point for a constructive conversation.

 

 COMMENT 503761 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-18 06:57 AM

I haven't noticed that because it isn't true.

 

 COMMENT 503763 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-18 07:03 AM

If the restaurant is not using reverse osmosis, I will laugh in their face as I open my own safe drinking water container.

 

 COMMENT 503781P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-18 07:47 AM

The OP wasn't making a statement, but asking a question. Does EdHat really have the staff/time to spend calling around about the topic when we have folks here who might have the answer (and yes, there are always those who don't have the answer but can't miss the chance to snipe and criticize).

 

 GBOB agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-18 09:31 AM

If charging for water prevents wasting, it's probably a good thing. It's NOT a tax, as been established by previous commenters.

Ever since our last drought emergency, I've been perturbed by our restaurants' return to business as usual as if we would never again need to worry about a water shortage. What's so difficult about asking for water when you want it, rather than having a glass brought automatically?

One glass of water = three glasses, when washing and rinsing are added in.

 

 RHS agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-18 10:47 AM

Restaurants cannot save significant amounts of water with this nonsense. I think they should be collecting undrunk table water and the ice in it in a large container to be used for other purposes such as washing floors or flushing toilets or irrigating plants. Some, of course, see it as an opportunity to make money by charging for bottled water. This is a big profit item if they can convince us to go for it. It is also a major water wasting industry and a big polluter. Transporting water from around the world to SB is absurd.

 

 CORKY agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-18 02:35 PM

I hadn't heard, but think it would be very sensible to only provide water when asked.

 

 COMMENT 504021P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-03-18 07:07 PM

...it's not the water IN the glass, but the water used to WASH it again and again.

 

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