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Cars being towed at Tunnel Trail?
updated: Feb 01, 2014, 2:24 PM

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Thought I would send in this info, seems as though numerous cars are being towed at the trailhead on a non-red flag day.

Anyone know more about this?

I was planning on going for a hike there later.

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 COMMENT 491242 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 02:43 PM

The technical reason is the section of the vehicle code cited, which refers to cars parked in such a way as to obstruct traffic.

The real reason is that that the tow truck driver bribed the cop to let him hold a few cars for ransom. Happens all the time around here. It's part of their pay. Hello Vegas $$$!

 

 COMMENT 491251 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 03:11 PM

If you are NOT park inside the white line during extreme fire danger - which we are - then fire trucks can not get through. This is for everyone's advantage people!

 

 FLICKA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 03:35 PM

Hello Vegas$$??? If folks can't follow the rules about where to park and not park, it's off you go; no need to "bribe a cop". Likely the Fire Department or a neighbor requested cars be towed; residents in the canyon take the possibility of fire seriously. Right now it's so dry there is a fire just waiting to happen, no need for a "Red Flag" day to blaze up. Wouldn't it be dandy if a fire started and emergency trucks couldn't get through because of hikers' cars?

 

 COMMENT 491265P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 03:39 PM

Wow, can you imagine getting back after a long hike to discover that you have no wheels to get home? Rough!

 

 COMMENT 491267 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 03:43 PM

Rough, yeah, but it's all down hill from there.

 

 COMMENT 491269 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 03:50 PM

There is a problem just waiting for a solution. Parking is very limited and it is a great place to hike. There is a lot of unused ground next to the gate which could be converted to a parking area. I suspect there are people who object to additional parking.

 

 COMMENT 491275 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 04:18 PM

Just go take a hike to find your cars.

 

 COMMENT 491279 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 04:26 PM

Rough, yeah, but can you imagine a fire starting while you are on your hike and because of vehicles parked in the roadway, the fire trucks can't get through...

 

 COMMENT 491285 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 04:42 PM

The fire Dept will never have your vehicle towed unless it is completely blocking the street. It's 100% generated from Mission Cyn residents calling chp.

 

 COMMENT 491291 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 05:07 PM

That struggle has been going on for decades, simple rule of thumb...if you are even 1/2 way on tarmac, you will be towed.

 

 COMMENT 491294 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 05:16 PM

Glad they're enforcing the simple rules again. What I find funny is that people go there to hike, but have such a problem parking a little way down the street if it's crowded. (Probably the same people that cut switchbacks...)

 

 COMMENT 491305 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 05:43 PM

That trailhead is such a joke. It think they should ban all vehicle parking on the weekends. That place would turn into a s show if a real fire started on there breezy days.

 

 COMMENT 491313 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 06:15 PM

305- remember Jesusita? No traffic problems at all! Please stop the unnecessary hype.

 

 COMMENT 491317P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 06:27 PM

285 - what do you mean by no traffic problems at all?

 

 MISTA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 06:56 PM

How difficult is it to FOLLOW POSTED SIGNS? You wanna whine about your car being towed due to your lack of having a clue? I hope its at least a $300 dollar fine and the tow company makes some serious coin.

 

 COMMENT 491331 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 07:01 PM

If the homeowners are calling the CHP, are they worried about retaliation from the hikers? I guess if they want to start a war, then both sides can throw stones.

I would say take a picture of your car if you think you are parked legally, and maybe leave your camcorder running in the car too. If they tow you, you have a great case for small claims to get your money back plus damages from the tow company.

 

 COMMENT 491338P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 07:16 PM

331 - cars are always parked there, and CHP is not always called out. I am sure cars were only towed if they were illegally parked.

And I bet that the illegal parking was documented with photographs.

 

 COMMENT 491342 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 07:42 PM

but everyone else was doing it too....boo hoo it's not fair, why meee, I'll sue!

 

 COMMENT 491343 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 07:42 PM

331 - excellent suggestion!

I'm a regular on Tunnel Trail, familiar with the disputes over access/parking up there.

Warning: Beware one real belligerent resident, I think lives in the semi-gated community the other side of the pass above Tunnel Rd. One time at sundown last summer I was headed down Tunnel Rd a hundred yards below the water tank almost to my car, when an SUV screeched to a halt right next to me: "Was that you on my property 10 minutes ago? - you look like it". I said "no, I've been on the Edison fire road by the power lines"... and then he got nasty and yelled - "I don't (effing) care where you've been. Don't come anywhere near my (effing) property or I'll set my dogs after you". Then he roared down the hill, turned around with a series of tire squeals, roared back up the hill past me - I had to jump between my car and the next one to avoid being hit, he yelled some expletive as he tore back up the hill and over the crest.

Some people....

 

 COMMENT 491357P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 08:23 PM

Be kind to those neighbors, they almost or did loose their homes. Just park where you should, be kind.

 

 COMMENT 491360P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-01 08:29 PM

I don't care about the labels -- every day is a red flag day. If you care that much document your parking and take it to court.

 

 COMMENT 491392 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 07:45 AM

@343, thanks for sharing. Hope that guy has a chimney fire.

 

 COMMENT 491412 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 08:45 AM

If you want to go for a hike, why not start it at the Mission. Problem solved.

 

 COMMENT 491434 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 09:41 AM

I had a friend who lived at the top of the road there and had to constantly deal with noise, cars breaking down her plants, dogs running in her yard, abusive people, no privacy and people blocking her driveway. I wouldn't be able to do it. Just because you're polite don't assume everyone is.

 

 FLICKA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 09:42 AM

256 &299, If the internet is so "idiotic and inane" what are you doing on it?

 

 COMMENT 491447 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 10:01 AM

I agree, people should part down the road where it's safe and then walk to the trails, it's common sense in our area with our fire hazards. Near the trailheads it is typically a sharp turn and not a lot of room to begin with.

 

 BONNER agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 10:14 AM

I don't think commenters should mention where someone "might live" even if the person was belligerent because other homeowners could be mistakenly tagged. One jerk doesn't make everyone a jerk, plus put yourself in the role of home-owner next to public access areas, not easy. Don't see a problem if everyone follows the rules and suggestions above.

 

 COMMENT 491456 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 10:15 AM

434- Why would your friend move to the head of Santa Barbaras most popular/busy trail knowing cars and parking bothered her? I live next to the trail myself and have no complaints. It is a resource for the entire community not owned or managed by a few Mission cyn residents. It would be the equivelant to moving to a beach house and complaining the ocean is too loud?

 

 COMMENT 491457 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 10:16 AM

Mista, is that you, in 343's comment?

 

 COMMENT 491477 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 11:50 AM

The only time I park up there to hike is on my scooter.. small parking foot print for one person to hike, To bad more people can't do that

 

 COMMENT 491500P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 12:41 PM

491285 - possibly because until one moves to the place, or was always there, the problems of parkers were not known, or only recently became a problem.

No matter where one lives or to where one drives, courtesy should be the overriding concern, and not where people choose to live. Lack of courtesy can occur in any area, and should not be allowed.

Homes are a huge investment, and the homeowners' rights should be respected.

 

 COMMENT 491522 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 01:16 PM

@456, thank you for your response, that is the same logic I was following... If residents really are having issues, post some signs that say "no parking, car will be towed", is that so hard? I also agree that something should be done with all the space up by the tank, a few parking spaces there would help. Looks like something else i'll email the County about and suggest others do as well. Santa Barbara continues to increase in population so trail heads need to be addressed with better accessibility for both recreational use and safety personnel. Here are their emails;
SupervisorCarbajal@sbcbos1.org
jwolf@sbcbos2.org
dfarr@countyofsb.org
peter.adam@countyofsb.org
steve.lavagnino@countyofsb.org

- Aaron

 

 COMMENT 491534 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 01:36 PM

500- they moved there after the trail was already established. The masses should not/will not adapt for the few.

 

 COMMENT 491542P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 01:45 PM

534 - if just one person parked in a way that limits access to my driveway, they are not being considerate. That is true for every home in SB/Goleta.

This is not the masses for the few. That is called being civil, the only way that people living together keep the peace and do not devolve into nasty interactions.

If there is a problem with trailhead parking, then it should be addressed in a community forum so that a solution can be found.

It is not the fault of the people living in the area, and they have every right to be there. It is a strange turn that bad behavior trumps everything else. Not the way I was raised.

 

 COMMENT 491584 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 02:53 PM

542- I agree they should not be blocking driveways. But hikers also should not be lambasted for enjoying a public space. The trail or road do not belong solely to the mission cyn residents.

 

 COMMENT 491592P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 03:22 PM

285 - and I don't think they do. I have been there a few times, and never encountered problems. If cars are towed, it indicates that there were problems. I wait to hear the facts.

 

 COMMENT 491595 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 03:38 PM

Parking incorrectly can cause problems, but think of the neighbors who live there expecting to live in a quiet peaceful place but now it's a hiking plethora of noisy people and slamming doors and alarms going off, do hikers think of that? Please be aware of ALL your surroundings, not just the enjoyment you're having. It's a peaceful place and animals can also be scared. If there's fire it's not just human homes that burn, please keep it peaceful, safe, quiet and considerate that way you'll respect nature at it's best.

 

 COMMENT 491628 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-02 05:03 PM

They really should make at least 10 parking slots in the entrance area where the gate is. It wouldn't be that hard.

 

 COMMENT 491693 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-03 07:41 AM

I was there Sunday. Ridiculous. One car parked five feet from hydrant. Another half a car width over line at last right hand bend, half a length past no park sign. Thankfully they heeded my suggestion to move it or lose it.

The land of entitlement.....

PS Aaron weren't you there for a hike? So why not open the road all the way to the real trailhead, there's lots of room to park there and your legs won't be so tired.

 

 COMMENT 491709 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-03 08:48 AM

456- Because her parents had lived there for 40 years and built their house and she moved there to take care of them. She didn't move there by choice. She hated being there. She wouldn't have lived there on a bet. The house subseqentially burned down.

 

 COMMENT 491748 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-03 11:11 AM

709- the point is she has the ability to move if its such a horrible place to live. The rest of the Community should not have to adapt to her needs.

 

 COMMENT 491866 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-03 03:25 PM

Who cares when someone moved somewhere or why, everyone has a right (perhaps even a duty) to look out for the safety and security of their own neighborhood. If people are parking illegally in a fire prone residential neighborhood, the neighbors have every right to complain, and the cars should be towed.

It's very simple: If you don't like parking tickets, don't park illegally. Just because you think there's enough room and there "should" be more parking spots doesn't make it so.

 

 COMMENT 491874P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-03 03:45 PM

491285 - how do you know she had the ability to move? Caring for two elderly parents and she must move? Really?

491866 - best comment yet.

 

 COMMENT 492309 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-02-05 01:18 PM

748- she moved as soon as she could. In unhappy circumstances, but glad to leave the area, and glad to leave the whole mess for someone else. She was always terrified if there was a bad fire the traffic wouldn't allow her to get out in time.

 

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