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What Is This?
updated: Jan 17, 2014, 12:58 PM

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These chalk cones were found on More Mesa. We collected about 25 and there are many more. They were in a remote location far from any established trail. The cones were randomly spread over an area half the size of a football field. They were on the surface as though recently deposited. Are there any suggestions about the original purpose?

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 COMMENT 486399P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 01:34 PM

That would explain the 94 cue sticks we found in the same area..

 

 COMMENT 486401 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 01:37 PM

Are you sure it's chalk? It looks a little like chorine or salt tablets used in pools or water softener systems.

 

 COMMENT 486403P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 01:41 PM

It would be wonderful if you took them out. Maybe, people are using More Mesa as a dump. Where was this - east, west, north, south?

 

 SHAKEY agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 02:03 PM

Mora Mesa.

 

 COMMENT 486419 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 02:03 PM

Maybe some kind of rodent poison?

 

 COMMENT 486421 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 02:03 PM

Tiny alien landing strip destroyed!

 

 COMMENT 486429 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 02:22 PM

399 made me really laugh.

 

 COMMENT 486433 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 02:25 PM

OP here. I tried tasting one of the cones. It is certainly not table salt, it is rather tasteless. I'm not sure if they are Calcium Carbonate (Rolaids), Magnesium Carbonate (Milk of Magnesia), or Calcium Sulfate (blackboard chalk). I'm not about to consume enough to be a guinea pig. One illustration of billiard chalk showed this same shape but I would expect pool cue chalk to be much smaller.

 

 COMMENT 486438 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 02:32 PM

Rodent poison would be my guess too. Probably not wise to taste them!

 

 COMMENT 486439P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 02:35 PM

I certainly wouldn't taste them. They could be some sort of pest/rodenticide pellets.

 

 COMMENT 486448 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 02:44 PM

You have ruined an ongoing federal study on the effects of local busybodies on their immediate habitat. Please report to your nearest FBI office for sentencing and decontamination. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated.

 

 COMMENT 486462 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 03:13 PM

Boric Acid? Roach Tablets?

 

 COMMENT 486464P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 03:15 PM

I remember finding a bunch of pyramid shaped chalky type items around Lake Los Carneros with some kids. A few months later, talking with a ranger, was informed that it was some sort of pesticide. He was mortified that not only had it not 'dissolved', but that it was found.

 

 COMMENT 486468P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 03:19 PM

Pool/billiard chalk for hands really is cone shaped, not flat-topped like these. Interesting and troublesome. I'd follow up out of interest. Ask a nursery or pest control company? Call County Ag?
Contact/locations:
http://www.countyofsb.org/agcomm/agcomm.aspx?id=11854

 

 COMMENT 486470 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 03:20 PM

Why on earth would you pick them up? They could be radio active isotopes.

 

 COMMENT 486481 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 03:42 PM

OP, you really tasted it? Dude, you're pretty radical.

 

 COMMENT 486512 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 04:25 PM

For some reason I think the OP should be checking the comments on the food poisoning question.

 

 COMMENT 486568 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 06:07 PM

I have made similar looking things!

Small bathroom Dixie cups.
Plaster of paris.
Water. (Of course.)
Dye/Coloring. Scents can be added, too.

Don't know what it is you picked up. Why would you pick up so many of them? Couldn't you take a moment to think, ---"it is dry and these appear stable. Maybe I'll call an agency or city department which might be knowledgeable about how to proceed."
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Instead you pick up many, many of them up and _taste them_ ?

 

 COMMENT 486574 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 06:16 PM

OP, did you happen to go Starbucks downtown after "tasting" one of those? It's all clear to me now...

 

 COMMENT 486597 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 07:40 PM

BUNG

 

 COMMENT 486622P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-17 09:58 PM

Shakey, what is Mora Mesa? Is it near More Mesa?

 

 COMMENT 486626P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-18 12:16 AM

Everyone knows it's "More Mesa." Give up arguing, it's a waste of energy. 'Mora Mesa" doesn't appear in any web search. Yeah, we all know that More Mesa is being referred to. Don't sweat the small stuff; it's just the internet!

Interesting history of the More family and the property here:
http://moremesashores.com/6-history.html

"In 1861 T. Wallace More offered to buy 1,000 acres of land for $5 an acre from Daniel Hill, who was having financial problems. Hill was desperate and sold the property to More. This land purchase gave More title to property extending from the Mescalitan Island to Hope Ranch, including the seashore tableland now known as the More Mesa..."

there's "more" at this website. family stuff, fights, mean and nasty dealings.

 

 COMMENT 486628P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-18 12:36 AM

sorry 622, my post sounded mean. I really just wanted to say don't sweat the small stuff on an insular board. I agree with you. Hey, "Los Canolas" would be LAS Canolas, in order to fulfill the language's grammatical gender agreement, if it weren't really Las Canoas. Just as it's LAS PositAs, not Los Positas or Los Positos.
Oh, and the person who drove into a building or something; had that accident at Muni Golf Course? That was on McCaw, not McCall. Editors should at least change the street name in the thread title. And of course Orchid drive sounds like Orcutt, but the map corrects one. I mishear stuff all the time, though my hearing is much better than my eyesight. I often look up the location of crimes and fires and there are the street names right there on the maps.
I've stopped correcting individual posts, but I just couldn't help myself on this thread. It's been building up. ;-)

 

 COMMENT 486640 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-18 07:36 AM

OK, here is a serious answer to the poster- I have seen those cones before and know what they are- they are put out by SB County Vector Control for controlling mosquitoes....seriously. I asked the Vector Control folks when i saw them on site last year.

 

 COMMENT 486644 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-18 07:42 AM

How about disposing of all of them, in case they are rodenticides? They are deadly to non-target species.The hawks and owls who live at More Mesa will thank you.

 

 SB & TAHOE agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-18 08:47 AM

So 640, are they placed in areas where standing water is expected to occur (if it ever rains again), potentially changing the composition of the water to inhibit mosquito breeding?

And, are they toxic to animals (including humans) in either a solid state or a dissolved state?

 

 COMMENT 486709 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-18 09:58 AM

After a discussion with the Orkin man I would rule out rodenticides as it is illegal to place poison bait in open fields or greater than 50ft from a building.

It makes for great sensationalism to surmise that this is a blundering effort to eradicate one pest at the expense of the natural wildlife. But, believe or not, government does address the issue in favour of the natural wildlife.

 

 COMMENT 486720 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-18 10:14 AM

Interesting, the stuff being "left" on the Mere Mesa. In 1950, ours was one of three homes between Hope Ranch and where the University is now. The More Mesa was a huge lima bean plantation, with the only "stuff" left behind were parts of the original railroad that ran across the Mesa, and parts of a 1920's Dodge Brothers truck in a ravine. "Progress came mid-50's with the Goleta Valley Railroad and weekend visitors including Walt Disney and his car-toonists "The Disney Dozen.

As for parking problems at Five Points, the only business there was Kelly's Corner market at Ontare and Hollister, just up the road from Bam's Auto Court.

Goleta Valley was all lemon trees, and an occasional house!!!!

 

 COMMENT 486744 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-18 11:00 AM

@720: when my family first moved to SB in 1963, we lived at Bam's Auto Court for a short while. I was 9 years old. Parents and 7 kids. Ah, memories!

 

 COMMENT 486888P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-18 05:36 PM

Harry Truman was President in 1950. That was SO long ago. How does that influence these cones?

 

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