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Five Points Parking
updated: Jan 14, 2014, 12:30 PM

By Edhat Subscriber

Five Points Shopping Center issues "no parking" warning if they see you go outside their lot, not considering that you intended to come back and shop. What does the edhat community think about the parking warnings?

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 COMMENT 485207P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 12:40 PM

More information would be helpful. Is this a warning on a sign? Put under your windshield wiper? Do you have a photo?

 

 COMMENT 485208 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 12:41 PM

If you owned the lot and all the stores within the lot and you saw someone do what you did, how would you react? The parking is limited.

 

 COMMENT 485210 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 12:42 PM

I go out of my way not to shop there anymore because I can never find a parking spot... Its the worst parking lot in town. I dont know if its due to too many stores, too many long term parkers or not enough spots to begin with.But that lot is horrible and it pushes me to other businesses as a result.

 

 COMMENT 485211 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 12:44 PM

I think if they are trying to limit the connecting shops from using their parking, then they might be missing out on sales at their own stores. Maybe Starbucks in Five Pts does not like the other coffee shop taking sales away from them? However, they own the parking, so it is their call whether to tow or not...hope they do not tow their own customer by mistake!

 

 SBHOPE agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 12:45 PM

That seems more than reasonable to me. There are a number of commercial buildings including the plaza with Peet's Coffee which chose to build without providing adequate parking. The Peet's lot at one time even had a sign saying "No Employee Parking." Where do you think the employees would then go and park?

It's a lot for the businesses at 5 Points. It is not a public lot for anyone to use.

 

 COMMENT 485220P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 12:50 PM

People who park there are very likely to patronize at least one of the stores in that lot. And, yes, it is an unpleasant lot to use, so I try never to shop there. If they are now going to spy on me, I think that seals the deal - just not worth it.

 

 COMMENT 485223 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 12:55 PM

There are/were many who used that lot as a park and ride area.

 

 COMMENT 485226 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 01:00 PM

Fresco's is the parking problem. On the day when it is closed, there is plenty of parking.

If they say anything to you, tell them you intended to come back and shop at one of their stores, but now you've changed your mind.

Then drive away. And call the store you intended to shop at and tell them what happened.

That will change what they are doing.

 

 COMMENT 485227P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 01:02 PM

A private parking lot belongs to them as foots the bill for it. Use is a privilege for their customers' convenience. Public parking is on the street or in public lots. If someone is not trading with the lot owner's tenants, then they're mooching on scant spaces that paying customers need. Sometimes crackdowns are necessary to change behavior.

 

 REXOFSB agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 01:03 PM

A while back I noticed a huge pickup without handicap license plates or placard parked in one of the handicap spaces in front of Albertson's at Five Points. I'd left my cell phone in my car, parked a fair distance away, so when I saw a Five Points security guard nearby I asked him to please call the cops so that the truck could be ticketed. He flat out refused to do so, saying that handicap violation tickets are "really expensive." That aside, probably the only lot in town that is worse is the one at TJ's on Milpas.

 

 COMMENT 485238 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 01:13 PM

Parking is really horrible there. I hardly go there, unless I have to--and then I try to get someone to drop me off.

 

 COMMENT 485244 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 01:17 PM

There is a very big Spectrum gym across the street, and gym patrons are notorious parking violators. The Yelp reviews for that Spectrum location complain about parking, so I'm betting that's the root of 5 points getting more serious about enforcing parking for patrons only.

OP: It was only a warning, which really is rather nice of them and totally appropriate if they see you leaving the lot -- would you have preferred that someone approach you directly as they saw you walk away and ask you where you were going, or just had your car towed without any warning? Seems they chose the most polite and least confrontational manner to remind people that their parking lot is for patrons of their tenants only. And, really you aren't supposed to park there and leave the lot, whether you're coming back or not -- that parking is for when you're shopping there.

 

 COMMENT 485246 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 01:25 PM

5 Points parking sucks - I don't waste my time there anymore and have not for many years. There are other places to go...so I go there. I think it's crass to park in someone's lot and not patronize their business (or businesses) though. I think they have every right to enforce parking - it is their property - not the entitled public that infects here.

 

 COMMENT 485249 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 01:27 PM

Agree with 210, I go out of my way to never go to 5 Points because of the terrible parking lot.

Too bad the businesses don't take that into account and try to get something done about it. They might do better.

 

 DOWNDOG agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 01:45 PM

Um, they apparently are, politely, trying to do something. Perhaps a significant cause of the congestion at 5 Points is abuse of the free parking. Park there, shop there, leave. That way other customers have the same chance as you. Leaving, "intending" to come back and shop is lame, and you should know better!

 

 COMMENT 485260 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 01:52 PM

What if I were to park in your driveway thinking I may like to visit you and than decide not to?

 

 COMMENT 485271P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 02:18 PM

Only if I park near Carl's Jr. has this happened to me at Five Points. Understandably they don't want people using the parking if they're patrons of the gym across the street or of the medical lab next door. Please disclose where your car was when you received the warning.

 

 COMMENT 485273 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 02:18 PM

I park there all of the time, shop there, and then sometimes go across the street to O'Reillys to grab something. I guess Edhatters want me to get in my car and drive across the street to the auto store. Seems wasteful of gas but if they don't care about that, I guess I shouldn't.

 

 COMMENT 485289 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 03:09 PM

There is alot of parking behind the Petco to Albertson's strings of stores, as well as the street that La Cumbre Vet is located on!

 

 COMMENT 485295P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 03:21 PM

In other news, Five Points pays people to monitor their lot. Who knew?

 

 COMMENT 485303P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 03:37 PM

There's parking behind the stores, but no shortcut through them to reach the entrances (at least from what I recall).

 

 COMMENT 485308P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 03:42 PM

I sometimes park there for my dentist who does not have enough spots for clientele. They offer valet service, but my car is non-valet-able. It's crabbier than I am. I do park in the outer area of 5 Points and always shop on my way back. But maybe I need to shop a new dentist - or buy a new car.

Maybe I'll just wait until it's towed away. Problem solved.

 

 COMMENT 485314 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 03:54 PM

...and then you have La Cumbre Mall, which has an overabundance of parking. No one ever parks under the entrance bridge by Macy's...seems like a waste of space.

 

 MOMMAME agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 04:13 PM

The parking at ALL TJ's is terrible!

 

 COMMENT 485326 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 04:27 PM

314 - Parked there often until once as I drove out 2 yutts pushed a grocery cart over the bridge. Was driving my convertible. Good times!!. You are right its emptly.

 

 COMMENT 485329 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 04:35 PM

Parking at TJ's by LAX is almost worth the drive.

 

 COMMENT 485332 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 04:44 PM

What on earth does this even mean? Does it mean that if they see you park, immediately walk across the street, that you may get a ticket? How is it worded? This kind of post is so utterly lacking in context and definitive information it's just a joke.

 

 COMMENT 485337 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 04:51 PM

There is a Jack A** rent an officer that places those on the windsheild. I went to Albertsons, Carls Jr, then walked next door to Petes for to go Coffee. When i came back 5 minutes later it was tagged. I walked over to him, yelled a little, told him my situation. I also told him i was going to complain to his boss if he did it again.

He now smiles and waves at me instead of the window paper, even when i go over to petes.

 

 COMMENT 485340 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 04:57 PM

I regularly go to Whole Foods, park there, walk down the street to the Jeanine's / Tee Off / Baskin Robbins lot, then walk back and shop at Whole Foods before going home. Every time I wonder if someone will see me leave the lot without going into the bank or WF, and put a sticker on my car or have it towed. I certainly hope not, since a tow is almost as much as paying for my groceries at WF.

 

 COMMENT 485345 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 05:05 PM

When I was in high school I had a job as a parking lot monitor for a local restaurant. Basically to make sure only the restaurant patrons were using the lot. Boy, I heard every story in the book. I was threatened a couple of times, but I am 6-3 250 lbs and played football and wrestled back in high school. I was more than happy to take them on...they reconsidered when they figured I was more than willing to oblige them.

 

 COMMENT 485357 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 05:29 PM

My husband had stopped briefly to pick me up in front of CVS and the security guy told him to move on, said he would report him if not. We are in our late 70's

 

 COMMENT 485381 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 07:24 PM

340, but you do realize that just patronizing one or more places that the lot "belongs" to doesn't mean you can leave your car there all afternoon while you go have lunch, right?

I mean, lots are busy and while you're having lunch, someone could be using your spot. It's all part of the me-me-me attitude everyone has. Use your spot, move your car to a public street with free parking (there's a ton in that area) and THEN walk to Jeanine's.

 

 COMMENT 485391P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 07:51 PM

I had the same thing happen, though with what sounds like heavier enforcement, at 1515 State, the parking lot is off Chapala, on the right above Micheltorena. I have 2 docs in that office space, one I've gone to for over 25 years. I parked there and ran an errand next door to the non-profit center, and got nailed!

Deservedly so, it was much better than a ticket.

I had to use a razor blade and alcohol (easier than buying Goo Gone) to remove the warning label about parking. This was 2-3 years ago and I still wonder. I've never seen a guard -- they must have darn good surveillance. If I park there just to buy toothbrushes there is zero problem. I never messed with them again; I've never mis-used their parking lot again. I can walk, and I use that; I'd rather park in a non-crowded area and walk in.

But if 5 Points guards don't interact with or treat their "clients" well, it could be a problem. I still favor Mandarin Palace and will continue to get to-go food from them. Yeah, I walk a ways unless I'm lucky.

OP, this is difficult. Do we all need to put signs on our dash saying where we're going?! No way should pre-emptive control be done, unless the parking guard watches someone park and head to the stoplight to cross State toward the gym. Seems management should post a guard near Carl's/that driveway.

357, I'd report that guard if your experience is true.

 

 COMMENT 485393 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 07:54 PM

The 5 Points lot has been a mess since they did the Spanish Style update eons ago and the business that used to be on the corner were torn down and higher use businesses moved in. Even though it is close, I avoid it like the plague.

BUT, I would not park there and shop some where else, it is still private property. You might feel the same if all your neighbors parked in your drive way and left you circling the block hunting for a space.

 

 COMMENT 485420P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 09:12 PM

REX - I saw a guy without a permit park in a handicapped spot in La Cumbre Plaza and the guards were falling all over themselves to take care of that problem!

I think that it would be a good idea to post some signs saying that the lot is only for the stores on the lot-side of the lot. Most of us are used to parking and walking to nearby businesses just as we do downtown. No one is probably intentionally "abusing" the lot.

 

 COMMENT 485455P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-14 10:55 PM

The "Security" situation there is a joke. I am legitimately disabled and parked in one of the Handicapped Spots in front of Albertsons and one of the "security" agents came over all full of bluster and bulls^%# demanding to know where my placard was. I, then, was left to teach him that some of us have Handicapped License Plates on our cars. Most times they are sitting around picking at their finger nails, drinking a soda or on their cell phones cradling it between their ears and shoulders. How many out there believe that it is a "business" related call? Yes, parking thre sucks, but let's not leave out TJ's on Calle Real and the one on De La Vina. Ralphs Magnolia is hard to get into due to that little jog they made in the planters. The Goleta Post Office has gotten blocked in with pickup trucks parked on both sides and their beds protruding enough that no one can get by and we all know it is a one way shot with people lining up behind them and back onto the street. How about the motorcyclist that parks his motorcycle in the blue hatching line next to the Handicapped Spot? That spot, the blue hatching spot, is there so the Handicapped can use that spot and area to let their lifts down out of their vans. Also the idiots that return a cart just far enough to leave it lingering in the Handicapped Parking Spot. Now we cannot pull in fully and therefore eiither depends on the kidness of strangers to possibly yell out to and ask them to move it, or then to find another Handicapped Spot that is open.

 

 COMMENT 485474 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 07:35 AM

In the words of Yogi Berra; "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded."

 

 COMMENT 485479P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 07:47 AM

There has been a new parking lot design proposal that came through the City ABR that adds 20 new spaces to the lot, new lighting and reconfiguring the lot to work better. I'm not sure when it will get built.

 

 FLICKA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 07:53 AM

I remember when the 5 Points Center was Skip Schalops (sp?) home, he had a little house and the rest was horse pasture. I went there with someone who was buying a pony from our best known horse dealer.

 

 COMMENT 485493 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 08:14 AM

Flicka - that would be Skip Shalhoob :)

 

 COMMENT 485518 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 09:07 AM

There is a limit as to how long you can park there and the parking guy is just doing his job. I know his job is thankless and many think he is the "bad guy", but he is very watchful, whether it be for parking viloations or someone trying to break into a car. Why not go out of your way and thank him. He is doing his job and doing it well.

 

 COMMENT 485520 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 09:11 AM

I'm okay w/a privately owned lot hiring people to ensure that there are parking spaces for their patrons as long as the people they hire are courteous.

However, it should be noted that this whole area of State St. is already "very" congested & does not have enough parking spaces for the businesses already there yet the city continues to allow more and more developments. There are no alternate access streets to take when street repairs, tree pruning, accidents and delivery trucks illegally parked etc. make for a lot of unsafe driving by frustrated drivers. It's only going to get worse :-(

 

 FLICKA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 09:19 AM

493,Thanks for the correct spelling, I just couldn't remember it. I knew Skip starting in 1954 during Fiesta. Quite the wheeler/dealer, with horses or anything else, you could always get a good trade from Skip.

 

 COMMENT 485527 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 09:28 AM

485337

You described an encounter between two people, and used a phrase. The phrase does indeed apply to one of those two people, but not the one you attached it to.

 

 COMMENT 485530 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 09:37 AM

Where did you park? If it was a police warning, pay attention to where you park. Circle around if you must and then walk to your destination. If a store did that, report it to 5 Points management. That would be illegal.

 

 COMMENT 485580 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 11:01 AM

530-If a store left a warning notice for parking on their parking spaces why would that be illegal? Thanks.

 

 COMMENT 485605 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 12:11 PM

Leaving your car at 5-Points to grab coffee at Pete's is pretty mild compared to leaving your car at Whole Foods and going to Jeannine's or Tee-Off for a complete meal. That is completely out of line, selfish, disrespectful, and inconsiderate, but I guess that's just par for the course for people who shop at Whole Foods.

 

 COMMENT 485632 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 01:22 PM

A contagious Culture of Gestapo is popping up everywhere, emanating from the very top down. How does it feel to be watched, spied on, threatened, punished, penalized and sometimes jailed for petty infractions or even your words?

 

 COMMENT 485735 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 04:02 PM

My barber is on Micheltorena, near San Andres. Street parking is non-existent at times. So I park at Foodland and go get my hair cut. But first I go into the store and buy an avocado or something.

I don't feel guilty at all.

 

 COMMENT 485738 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-15 04:08 PM

I was there yesterday and saw the security guard putting a warning on the car next to me. I asked him why he was doing that, and he said it was because the car had been left there all day and the driver was not on the premises.

 

 COMMENT 485901 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-16 07:34 AM

I don't believe, possibly with an exception or two, police have any jurisdiction in a private parking lot. Does the Vehicle Code authorize police citations on private property? For those that must park in this lot often it might be worthwhile to check to determine if you can legally be towed from this lot. Might be all entrances into the lot must be posted with signs that identify who can park in the private lot and what will happen to vehicles parked in the lot in violation of the sign notice.

 

 COMMENT 487917 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-21 05:12 PM

I don't understand how they can be sure the cars' owners aren't on the premises. What about a two hour lunch at Fresco followed by shopping at Ross or CVS or Albertsons? Surely that seems like a long time even thought it's completely a legit use of that parking lot.

How exactly does the security guard know unless he sees someone park then sees them walk across the street or leave the premises? Seems like the management is trying to mitigate some long term parking, which is fair enough. But they are going about it all wrong and they will end up with more headaches from legit customers whose cars end up getting warnings or towed. You can't afford to alienate customers in this (or any) economy.

 

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