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Tuesday Evacuations
updated: Jan 02, 2014, 11:14 AM

By Edhat Subscriber

I work across the street from the Santa Barbara Police Dept. building, where there was an emergency on Tuesday morning. From what I can tell, an issue arose with regard to a live grenade and for a time, Figueroa Street was closed. However, the police did not evacuate our building, just across the street from the police headquarters, nor were we informed of the emergency. What is the protocol and to whom do we complain about this?

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 COMMENT 481889 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 11:32 AM

Those are great questions and I bet the answers can be found just across the street from where you work. Please let us know what happens.

 

 SHAKEY agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 11:34 AM

Sue them.

 

 COMMENT 481891P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 11:36 AM

Don't feel bad - the 9-1-1 dispatchers weren't evacuated from the SBPD basement because they were determined to be "safe'' - apparently, only actual badge holders are ever really in any danger in this type Chinese fire drill.

 

 COMMENT 481893 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 11:37 AM

A grenade injury radius out in the open is about 45 feet. The grenade was inside the building and the building is set back at least 50 feet from the sidewalk. There was absolutely no chance of injury to a person across the street (over 100 feet away), let alone in a building across the street. Most likely you would have been safer inside than outside.

 

 COMMENT 481894 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 11:37 AM

Maybe because the grenade was of no danger. It was just fine since the 60's and still fine when it was dropped off. A lot to do about nothing. Notice the Bomb guy did not even have his gloves on?

 

 COMMENT 481895P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 11:43 AM

The grenade would not have affected a building across the street. Given the blast of a hand grenade, most common foreign and domestic military devices have a kill radius of about 5m (16ft) and a danger radius of about 15m (50ft). There was no need to cause panic or alarm of buildings nearby, this was an isolated and contained situation.

 

 COMMENT 481899 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 11:45 AM

As long as no one pulled the pin or set it on fire, there was no real danger. The whole comic show is an over reaction by SBPD to make themselves feel needed.

 

 COMMENT 481904P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 11:53 AM

I only caught part of the story, but as a shooter and scientist, I was appalled by the SBPD's lack of knowledge and their over-reaction. They really need to learn what is dangerous and what isn't. A bunch of old ammo is not inherently dangerous, and it is irresponsible for them to imply that it is. The general lack of scientific knowledge is depressing, but when government agencies and news organizations contribute to that misunderstanding, I despair.

 

 COMMENT 481910 agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 12:07 PM

I'm pretty sure if you or anyone in your building were in imminent danger you would've been evacuated. As is the threat was perceived to be to the immediate occupants of the building in which the alleged grenade was thought to have been.

#productofhelicopterparenting

 

 COMMENT 481929P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 12:44 PM

"An Army Bomb Disposal Team rendered safe a live historic grenade in Janesboro, Limerick in the early hours of this morning.

The device was confirmed as a Mills Type Grenade dating back to the 1920's/ War of Independence era.

The Defence Forces deployed the Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Team in response to a request from the Gardaí Síochána after the suspect object was discovered by a member of the public who was carrying out gardening work at his own private residence in Janesboro, Limerick.

The team arrived on scene at midnight and a cordon and traffic restrictions had been put in place for public safety, with a number of nearby houses evacuated. The grenade was taken to a safe nearby location where it was made safe by means of a controlled explosion.

The scene was declared safe at 00.40 am. and the team returned to base.

- See more at: http://www.military.ie/press-office/news-and-events/single-view/article/tuesday-13-aug-2013-army-bomb-disposal-team-render-safe-old-grenade/?
cHash=626a80e369c9ba372c6ccd50d21a4cd4#sthash.x
7XlK3y0.dpuf"

http://www.military.ie/press-office/news-and-events/single-view/article/tuesday-13-aug-2013-army-bomb-disposal-team-render-safe-old-grenade/?
cHash=626a80e369c9ba372c6ccd50d21a4cd4

 

 COMMENT 481930P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 12:45 PM

TUESDAY 21 MAY 2013 - ARMY BOMB DISPOSAL TEAM RENDER SAFE OLD GRENADE.
An Army Bomb Disposal Team rendered safe an old grenade in Crosshaven, Co Cork this evening.

The Defence Forces deployed the Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Team in response to a request from the Gardaí after a grenade of historical nature, was found by people digging in a private residence in Crosshaven. The team arrived on scene at 7.35 pm and a cordon and traffic restrictions were put in place for public safety.

The item, a Mills Grenade, probably dating from the early twentieth century was taken to a secure area nearby where it was made safe by means of a controlled explosion. The scene was declared safe at 8.35 pm.

This evening's call out was the third call out of a Defence Force EOD Team so far today.

- See more at: http://www.military.ie/press-office/news-and-events/single-view/article/tuesday-21-may-2013-army-bomb-disposal-team-render-safe-old-grenade/?
cHash=4fed5a248f190e05457758e6909d4fc7#sthash.UI3
o8GmH.dpuf"

 

 COMMENT 481931P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 12:47 PM

Yep, the military are SO helicopter-parented-children. Looks as though military procedures were followed, in SB.

Can you image the outrage from the #productofhelicopterparenting posters if something had gone wrong. I know what the comments would have been. No need to repeat.

 

 EDHATBARBARA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 12:56 PM

OP here. I just think that had neighbors been informed of what was going on, we could have decided ourselves whether we wanted to stay or go. However, no information was provided. Our street was blockaded but our door wasn't knocked on. This seems inappropriate under the circumstances and I want a procedure about it changed.

 

 EDHATBARBARA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 01:03 PM

I have registered my complaint with the City of Santa Barbara and the police department at their websites. I'll report on any response I receive.

 

 EDHATBARBARA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 02:51 PM

I'm not debating whether there was a proper reaction to the problem presented. I'm concerned that there wasn't adequate information provided to the community surrounding where the event occurred such that those of us working there could decide for ourselves whether we felt comfortable staying or going.

If it was dangerous enough to set up a roadblock, then I think it was dangerous enough to inform us about it, that's all.

 

 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 07:20 PM

EDHATBARBARA Don't let the trolls get you down we love you..

 

 EDHATBARBARA agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 07:26 PM

Love you, Roger!

 

 COMMENT 482092P agree helpful negative off topic

2014-01-02 08:35 PM

I also work across the street OP and was wondering the same thing...

 

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