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Retail Ideas
updated: Dec 22, 2013, 1:00 PM

By Edhat Subscriber

We have a retail location in the De La Vina and Alamar area of Santa Barbara and would like to change our business to something else and are looking for community input on what type of business the area would support. What type of business is needed in that area? It could be something entirely new to Santa Barbara or just something that is lacking in that particular area?

Note about the space: it is approx 1200 sq ft.

Comments in order of when they were received | (reverse order)

 COMMENT 479438P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 01:18 PM

Hardware store.

 

 COMMENT 479439 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 01:24 PM

Hardware store is not a bad idea. Home Improvement and OSH are pretty far away, but the space is too small I would think.

 

 COMMENT 479443P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 01:30 PM

Yeah. I know it's too small, but I can dream, can't I?

 

 COMMENT 479446 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 01:39 PM

Small CLASSY Pool Hall/pub. Or, an all night Deli/coffee shop. Mailboxes etc, or shipping supplies (boxes, tapes, containers, crating coordination services). Childcare. Kind of depends on what the configuration of the shop is, right?! is it commercial, office, retail? Automotive parts....

 

 REXOFSB agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 01:39 PM

We need a fix-it shop where people can take malfunctioning toasters, DVD players, etc., to be fixed. I know we live in a throw-away society in which it's cheaper to buy something new than have the old one fixed, but with the right pricing, maybe the old one COULD be fixed rather than replaced.

And hacked credit cards aside, we really do need a Target. I guess 1,200 feet isn't big enough. Maybe start a Target Jr.?

 

 COMMENT 479453P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 02:05 PM

A fine Jewish deli

 

 COMMENT 479454 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 02:07 PM

Medical MJ dispensary or a head shop

 

 COMMENT 479455 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 02:10 PM

massage parlor

 

 COMMENT 479456 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 02:14 PM

How 'bout an ice cream shoppe?

 

 SBSURFERLIFE agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 02:14 PM

I second the pool hall idea. The only place with a decent amount of pool tables are Breaktime, Don Qs, and Dargans. Breaktime and Don Qs can be pretty scuzzy, and Dargans is usually packed. Something up there would be a great idea.

 

 GUNTHER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 02:21 PM

A wine bar or A froyo place

 

 COMMENT 479460 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 02:26 PM

Mexican restaurant

 

 COMMENT 479461 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 02:33 PM

Mini-mini golf!

 

 COMMENT 479463 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 02:37 PM

Agreed, a pool hall would be a lot of fun. Fro yo would also be nice...the closest is either Goleta or downtown. That's something that fits in a tiny shop, too.
Good luck. I think it's great that you're asking for community feedback. By the way, I only live a few blocks from there, so I've definitely got an interest in whatever you go with....

 

 COMMENT 479467 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 02:52 PM

A Water Store. Distilled and RO water.

 

 COMMENT 479470 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 02:57 PM

I really miss Craft Village. Michael's is now the only local option.

 

 COMMENT 479473 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 03:01 PM

Health care scrub store. With cottage around the corner you can bet if you provided what they wanted they would buy it.

 

 COMMENT 479475P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 03:04 PM

Roger, there's already one about a block from you. A-OK mower shop.

 

 COMMENT 479476P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 03:06 PM

I second the Jewish deli.

 

 COMMENT 479477 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 03:07 PM

What about a ping pong bar? They are super hot elsewhere at the moment.

 

 EZ2 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 03:14 PM

A New York bagel shop/ deli

 

 COMMENT 479480 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 03:19 PM

We have Nortons Deli. I appreciate your asking. What about a gourmet food store? With delicacies from all over the world, and cooking utensils. That would probably be popular!

 

 COMMENT 479484P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 03:41 PM

In light of the question above about Hallmark ornaments, maybe we need another Hallmark store.

 

 COMMENT 479487 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 03:55 PM

An Asian Indian Grocery Market and Grocery Store. It'd be great not to have to go down to LA for a decent Indian Market

 

 COMMENT 479488 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 03:57 PM

A high-end consignment furniture/art/antique store (market items through Craigslist & eBay; no inventory cost)

 

 COMMENT 479493 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 04:15 PM

I would like to see a combination ping pong and pool table place to go that is actually appropriate and fun for people who are not interested in getting intoxicated and all that goes with that.

 

 COMMENT 479495 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 04:19 PM

Jamba Juice!!!!!!!

I've missed it since it left State St. A and became Pinkberry

 

 COMMENT 479500 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 04:38 PM

A Jewish deli that sells distilled water.

 

 COMMENT 479501P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 04:45 PM

A hardware store that sells pastrami on rye and has huge dill pickles in barrels.

 

 COMMENT 479504 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 05:12 PM

Ping pong palace for the win.

 

 COMMENT 479507 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 05:18 PM

Edible arrangements...or something like that which delivers yummy healthy edible fruits, fruits dipped in chocolate or other delicious things....

 

 COMMENT 479509 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 05:23 PM

Ship & Shots - a luddite's delight. Ship the parcel, play some pool/ping pong and... NO WI-FI or cellphones allowed.

 

 COMMENT 479510 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 05:24 PM

Put in a Massage Envy (closer than the one at 5 Points which is too far out).

 

 COMMENT 479516 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 05:40 PM

I second the Asian/Indian market...

 

 COMMENT 479517 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 05:41 PM

Water Store, like across the street from Cottage Hospital in Goleta. Ton of santabarbarians travel up north with their water bottles to get them refilled! Please, open a Water Store!

 

 COMMENT 479519 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 05:48 PM

Norton's deli is NOT a fine Jewish deli...we're talking potato pancakes, matzo ball soup, great bagels & lox, etc......we've had a couple tries in the past but none have survived. Time to try again please!

 

 COMMENT 479524P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 06:08 PM

Ping Pong play place is a great idea. Keep it clean, no huge boozer place, but fun for everybody.

Maybe over 21 after 9PM? Then serve liquor, but maybe just great craft beers (IPA's ales, locals, & CA origin) & good quality vino.

 

 COMMENT 479528 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 06:15 PM

Something family friendly would be good. Ping Pong or pool hall or arcade (yessssssssssss miss having a good arcade)

 

 COMMENT 479529 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 06:21 PM

like @454, cannabis dispensary. no this is not snarky, nor a joke. be totally legal. but I plan on being deleted anyway.

 

 COMMENT 479537 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 07:08 PM

2nd Mel's location

 

 SLSB agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 07:09 PM

A pet store. All About Pets did very well in the DLV shopping center. Or a real Jewish deli with fresh challah on Fridays

 

 EZ2 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 07:31 PM

Brent's deli would be great there..there already is a Jewish style bakery ( our daily bread) a Jewish hair salon( highlights hair salon)..sounds kosher to me..Santa Barbara needs a little downtown New York influence..

 

 COMMENT 479544 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 07:33 PM

BAGELS!!!!!!

 

 COMMENT 479549 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 07:59 PM

Agree with Hardware store. Really miss Learned hardware. It would be great to have another mom and pop type hardware store in the area.

 

 COMMENT 479550 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 08:06 PM

Our Daily Bread does do fresh challah.

 

 COMMENT 479553 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 08:34 PM

Our Daily Bread does great challah but the Jewish food factor stops there......Brent's would be fabulous!!

 

 COMMENT 479554 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 08:40 PM

Pinball and ping pong parlor serving Deano's Pizza!

I would be in heaven!

Maybe an ice skating rink?

 

 COMMENT 479559 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 09:00 PM

I work in that area (Ralph's shopping center). My co-workers and I were just discussing how there is no quality deli/sub-sandwich place (similar to Southcoast deli, etc.) within walking distance.

 

 COMMENT 479560P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 09:06 PM

This is about two blocks from my house. I'd vote ten times for a Jewish Deli. There isn't one in SB. Make the trip down to Brent's Deli in Westlake Village and you'll see what a successful deli looks like. Please offer some low-cal things, like great chicken soup with a few bagel chips on the side. Yum!

 

 LOUWHO? agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 09:39 PM

Vegan resturant and fresh juice bar!

 

 COMMENT 479566P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 10:08 PM

I would love a real card shop. I miss our Hallmark(s) terribly. However, going with a franchise would be very expensive. You could do cards and shipping. You could also consider offering some of what Front Page and Pacific Company sold (without the grouchy owners from the later). Granted, they both went out of business but it would be interesting if a new space/size/location might work.

 

 SHOREBIRD agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-22 10:23 PM

I just had to drive to Ventura to buy some Lakers stuff for my grandson for Christmas. Perhaps a shop where you could buy NFL/MLB authorized fan items.

 

 COMMENT 479587P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 07:07 AM

A fabric store.

 

 COMMENT 479589P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 07:11 AM

I vote for a Jewish deli too...even though I'm not Jewish.

 

 DOWNDOG agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 07:18 AM

Re:cards. I spoke with the owner of the late Front Page just before they closed. Big problem for them was the huge amount of space devoted to cards....which no one buys anymore!

 

 COMMENT 479594 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 07:22 AM

UPS Store

 

 COMMENT 479596P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 07:26 AM

Anything that is NOT a chain store! A Jewish deli sounds good!

 

 COMMENT 479602 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 07:39 AM

Id love to see a bit of a Bodega.. Like a NY Bodega. With a great magazine and newspaper wall. We dont have a good Newspaper and Mag shop at all. Then you could have a deli counter w Prepared soups and sandwiches. Coffees. mmm

 

 COMMENT 479603 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 07:39 AM

Whatever it is, it would have to be set up to primarily be an internet based business rather than a bricks and mortar store. That way you have a customer base of millions rather than thousands of Santa Barbarians who won't go out of the house if it cloudy or raining.

 

 COMMENT 479607 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 07:53 AM

Obviously making money isnt a part of the thought process for most of you....

Ping Pong? A Deli? A sports memorabilia shop? A Massage Envy because a mile and a half is too far?

Wow... not wonder most small businesses fail in the first year.

You're right across from TJ's. Take advantage of the fact that hundreds of people are just a hop away, every day. What does TJ's not have that you can sell?

 

 COMMENT 479608 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 07:54 AM

Party supply store and floral arrangement station. with Oak Park just down the street, and the hospital a couple blocks away it would be great. Could throw in a rack of cards too. keep it cheap like the 99cent stores.

 

 COMMENT 479610 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 07:57 AM

Pool tables are SUPER- expensive($10K to $15K EACH) but great idea if you can find good/used/re-conditioned.
Hardware store is great idea, but inventory cost
would be a huge initial investment.
I like Deli/Bodega plan...

 

 COMMENT 479611 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 08:04 AM

I second the Jewish Deli! I'd be in there like every day. I was just complaining to my husband about this on Saturday after going to the Sansum Clinic and one of the things the doctor told me to do was to go get in my pajamas with chicken noodle soup.

 

 UPONTHEHILL agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 08:07 AM

A Jewish Deli sounds heavenly.

 

 COMMENT 479618 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 08:20 AM

A deli, Jewish or otherwise, would be a great addition to that area!
Think of all of the workers at Cottage Hospital who could potentially have "To Go" lunch orders along with folks living in the area dropping in. Being open on weekends would be a big plus.

 

 COMMENT 479620 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 08:20 AM

There is no fabric store in town (except a very high end one on State St.). Carpinteria is the closest and that is minimal.

 

 COMMENT 479628 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 08:47 AM

Hardware store!!! (it can be small version) - gardening supplies…a nursery!!
I love that this area rivals milpas for good ethnic eats, a jewish deli would fit in nicely with our 2 thai, 4 mexican, 2 sushi, 3 italian (that includes 2 pizza), Indian, chinese…I'm sorry I just got enthusiastically carried away. Please not a donut shop. We had to break up and if he moved around the corner I would be tormented. How about a karaoke restaurant for families? helluva lotta kids in SB got talent with nowhere to go…
an open mike place for performers of all kinds, it's also music alley…
I want to see talent or something new that will enrich and stimulate our culture. (not medicate it;)

 

 COMMENT 479629 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 08:47 AM

Rex? You take the cake.

Recommending a fix it shop and a Target that sells the very crap that replaces things that need to be fixed.

Fix it shops would be great.

The Issue? That many of the part suppliers are now on to this game and the majors sell you a tiny plastic valve that costs $0.04 to make for $18.00.

So to add jobs and mine local creativity, add some tooling and raw material that allows people to create their own parts.

 

 COMMENT 479631 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 08:48 AM

How about just a deli, with no ethnicity or religion attached to it.

 

 COMMENT 479632 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 08:50 AM

Ping pong? Good grief. Your best customers will spend $100 for a table in their back yard and put you out of business.

DLV and Alamar is no-man's land: too far from State, Cottage, and TJs. Unless you're willing and able to spend huge money hoping that you become the go-to spot for every neighbor, you're better off relocating to a better location. You are in this for the money, right?

 

 COMMENT 479633 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 08:53 AM

Fabric store and Hallmark store are badly needed!

 

 COMMENT 479639 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 09:02 AM

Jewish delicatessen!

 

 COMMENT 479641P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 09:05 AM

Are you, OP, going to run it? That lets out most of the specialty shops most people have mentioned. These businesses take managers who are knowledgeable and savvy about suppliers, have good credit with vendors, etc. NOT for newbies. Brick & mortar retail is a very different game than it was just 10-15 years ago.

 

 COMMENT 479646 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 09:22 AM

610 - If you are buying 7ft bar-sized tables, the absolute top of the line new table is less than $5k. But you can only fit a couple tables in such a tiny space.

 

 COMMENT 479650 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 09:29 AM

North side of DLV is tough because of parking and being across from TJ is a liability (no parking) but I think A CRAFT STORE could make a nice income. That area is in the middle of a huge population shift - younger families, upper income. Crafts that kids can do - not Martha Stewart or scrap books or fake flower arrangements but crafts - models, papier mache, lanyards, little jewelry, 6th grade mission replica projects. You could start smallish & grow as you see what works. Don't worry about Michaels...create a service for your locals.

 

 COMMENT 479653 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 09:53 AM

You could make more money working at Home Depot versus running a craft store. Get a day job and go home for a beer versus worrying about a lease and overhead. Do what's best for you instead of what your neighbors want you to do. Best joke in years: a goy running a Jewish deli.

 

 COMMENT 479675 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 11:11 AM

Aren't there two good pool tables just a few blocks away at the Uptown Lounge?

 

 COMMENT 479687 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 11:40 AM

Fabric store!

 

 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 11:40 AM

How about a nice restraunt that serves nothing but soup homemade soups with crackers worked on West Figourea about 20 years ago.

 

 COMMENT 479692 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 11:47 AM

675 - Yes there are two 7ft tables at Uptown, and they were recently covered with professional Simonis cloth. However, that is almost a mile walk for anyone living just south of Alamar and De la Vina. Jimboz bar, located almost at the corner of De la Vina and Alamar, has two pool tables, but to say they are ragged would be an understatement.

 

 COMMENT 479699 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 12:01 PM

So Jimboz hears that a new pool hall may be coming in nearby...they refurnish their tables within two weeks. Newco fails. Thank God most posters don't actually run a business. OP, get a day job. You'll bring in more money and have no worries.

 

 COMMENT 479701 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 12:12 PM

We miss Mimosa that moved from that area.

We would patronize a restaurant of equal quality, or a delicatessen that stays open for dinner if it provides good grilled franks and beans.

 

 COMMENT 479702P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 12:13 PM

While I think most of these comments are well meaning its obvious none have ever operated a business. Your square footage is small especially if you need storage for inventory which further shrinks it. If you don't have the extra 100k or more to convert the space to food and or beer wine service plus months for a build out and permits and licenses for a business which might work there you can scratch those ideas.

My best suggestion is look at your realistic square footage, how much you want to invest and then start looking around in neighboring towns (Ventura, San Luis) for something popular there we don't have here that would work with that then crunch the numbers.

 

 COMMENT 479703 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 12:16 PM

Not sure how big your place is but they closed the only fabric store in SB when Craft Essentials went out of business. A good quilting/fabric store is desperately needed in the SB/Goleta area.

 

 COMMENT 479712 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 12:39 PM

Taco Bell... Sigh

 

 COMMENT 479714 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 12:51 PM

As much as I would love to see a Jewish deli in my neighborhood, that isn't enough space and there isn't enough parking in this part of town.

Ice cream is a great idea, there really isn't any ice cream nearby and this is an area with lots of families, the biggest elementary school in town (Peabody) and many parks nearby.

A hardware store would be great, we really miss having one in the neighborhood. A small crafts or fabric store would be nice too.

 

 COMMENT 479731 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 01:39 PM

A store that sells tiny purse sized dogs

 

 COMMENT 479732 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 01:39 PM

An Indian/Asian shop with well-chosen merchandise would probably cause me to shop inside SB city limits on a regular basis for the first time in years. Inventory choices would have to be really good to compete with the half dozen Asian shops already scattered in the south county, but if Indian were the emphasis, it would cater to an undeserved niche. Supplemental goods catering to middle eastern tastes could help too. Very limited inventory of frozen and refrigerated merchandise could help control startup costs.

 

 COMMENT 479749 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 03:00 PM

This neighborhood needs 3 things, listed in order of importance:
1) a Hardware Store
2) a Hardware store
3) a hardware Store

 

 COMMENT 479750 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 03:11 PM

Absolutely a fabric store with all the notions. Sewing is coming back and the fabric stores all bailed. Craft Essentials cornered the market then closed. PLEASE a fabric store...I take Adult Ed sewing with many others and we are so missing a store to pick up fabric, etc.

 

 COMMENT 479752 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 03:22 PM

I miss American nameplate. They used to be in the area, eventually they retired. We need a place to engrave things, monogram items, make signs... stamps, you name it American Nameplate would put your name on it.

 

 FANGIRL agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 03:41 PM

FYI ... 752 ... American Nameplate is still in business. It is located at 920 Carpinteria Street, which is the little shopping mall across the street from TJ's on Milpas. We just had them do some engraving for us.

 

 BEACHBUMMER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 03:59 PM

thanks for delusions of grandiose retail ya all....my opinions tend to be practical. ..thus in my opinion it needs a new money laundering outfit to help out with all the dirty money in this town... Remember we live 250 miles from a third world country. .. just look whose doing the baking on the corner! .....

 

 BONNER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 04:29 PM

I live nearby and would gladly walk to get a great deli sandwich to go, soup, good bagels. A small place that focused on great short-list menu. DLV is changing already with upgraded restaurants and stores, can never have too many food places IF they are good. Los Agaves is new and it's good, it's clicked and busy! Hire a young interesting chef with deli b.g., as all the deli's in this town are uninspired and not real. A REAL deli with GOOD bagels and great to-go items would be well received, probably mostly breakfast-lunch to early afternoon for to-go's, as parking is generally bad. TO-GO!!! Yum Yum

 

 COMMENT 479786 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 04:48 PM

"The Old Hippy Tie-Dye Store".

 

 COMMENT 479816 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-23 06:08 PM

I'm all for the Jewish deli. If it was a good one (like I hear Brents is) I would go there a lot. I work off of DeLaVina near Alamar.

 

 COMMENT 479868 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-24 07:09 AM

I lived in NYC for years, not far from Katz's and Russ and Daughters (bagels, lox, etc.).

I can't imagine anybody opening anything remotely like those places in Santa Barbara. They rely on a non-stop stream of customers to insure everything is always incredibly fresh.

Brent's quality doesn't compare to Katz's, but it's a lot better than fast food if you have the time to stop for lunch on the way to LAX.

 

 COMMENT 479899 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-24 08:59 AM

I heartily agree with all the comments who suggest a HARDWARE STORE. Sadly, mom-n-pop hardware store simply cannot compete with a HD, Lowe's, or OSH anywhere within a 15-mile radius.

 

 COMMENT 479978 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-24 03:58 PM

Fabric Store!! One that has fabric and notions for making clothing.

 

 COMMENT 480364P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-27 08:52 AM

if the owner gets serious about a hardware store, talk to Miner's Ace up in Grover Beach. They do compete with Osh & HD. If anyone could, they could.

 

 COMMENT 480575 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-12-27 03:54 PM

I second a fabric store, except you have to sell a lot to afford the rent in this town. Another good possiblity is a REAL Italian bakery, not one with a Mexican twist.

 

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