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Sound From Earl Warren Showgrounds
updated: Apr 27, 2013, 9:25 PM

Subscribers are voicing their concerns about the sound level of Earl Warren Showgrounds. How loud is to loud?

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 COMMENT 402498P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-27 09:44 PM

Can hear it all the way to Olive and Valerio.

 

 COMMENT 402500P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-27 09:51 PM

Why is the Earl Warren concert getting away with such a very loud volume? The bass is reverberating over a mile away.

 

 COMMENT 402501 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-27 09:56 PM

I call Earl Warren to complain. And requested that they ask the band to turn down the volume. The music just got louder. I live on the Upper East Side and can hear it clearly. If I had wanted to hear this concert, I would have gone to the fair.

 

 COMMENT 402502P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-27 10:12 PM

Wonder if anything will be done about this?

 

 COMMENT 402503P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-27 10:13 PM

It will probably end soon, you'll be okay, not like it happens very often. The acoustics make the sound carry, the Bowl is like that at times too.

 

 COMMENT 402504P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-27 10:14 PM

Does anyone else remember the curfew siren at 9 or 10 pm in Santa Barbara? It's past ten and the Earl Warren concert blast continues: "We got trouble here, in Mission city.
Libertine men and Scarlet women,
shameless music that'll grab your son and your daughter ....animal instink! Mass-staria, the idle brain is the devil's playground." With thanks to Meredith Willson.

 

 COMMENT 402506P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-27 10:20 PM

The noise ordinance is midnight on the weekend... 10 during the week.

 

 CHERIDIANE agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-27 10:28 PM

Wow, is that racket coming from Earl Warren? We have heard it loudly over by SBHS! Some kinda rap sound. Not a fan.

 

 COMMENT 402511P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-27 10:35 PM

The County Bowl can't have loud concerts after 10 pm, can it? Why does the Earl Warren get away with it?
By the way, what is the best concert you ever attended at Earl Warren back in the day?

 

 COMMENT 402512P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-27 11:07 PM

Wow-hear it here downtown! Way louder than the Bowl ever is.

 

 COMMENT 402514P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 03:20 AM

It will be over soon enough and hopefully they won't be able to get away with it again. We must stand up and be heard about this crap!

 

 GILBERT agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 04:14 AM

Write the mayor and city council members. It is their job to serve their constituents . There are times when it sounds right next door and we live 3 miles from EW.

 

 COMMENT 402522 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 06:23 AM

In answer to your question. I think we have reached that level now and the authorities must start working with the problem at once, before the next concert.

Perhaps they could start by interviewing the tortured residents on Las Positas and fan out to Samarkland, San Roque and so forth? It must be sheer misery for them.

 

 COMMENT 402523 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 06:25 AM

Heard the deep thumping in the Turnpike area around 11. I just thought it was some neighbor kids having a party. If I was young enough, I would have been in the middle of the crowd having a blast. If I was older, I would have complained. Glad I am right in the middle and can let it go. It happens just a few times a year at most. Things could be worse.

 

 COMMENT 402524 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 06:27 AM

Complain to the state, they/we own it. City is mostly impotent here. Note sponsors: most local media, an alcohol vendor, the sound man, etc. it's all about financial viability. The horse set is in control here. Board of directors:
Chip Wullbrandt
June Van Wingerden
Betty Weiner
Suzanne Perkins
Art Najera
Corola Nicholson
Marshall Miller
Alex Rodriguez
Mary Rose

From their vision statement:
To be a valued community asset and considered a component of Santa Barbara's quality of life. To be so integrated in the daily life of the community that individuals, organizations and companies of all types willingly invest resources in our success.

 

 COMMENT 402525 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 06:30 AM

It is quite rude and plainly inconsiderate (and often illegal) to have to (that is, be forced to) listen to other people's music within one's home. Whether or not others are enjoying it and having fun is entirely irrelevant, in other words, beside the point, as people can (and should) enjoy music and have fun (indeed, I'm one of those people) without interfering with the privacy rights and privileges of others. I can't relax when there's loud music coming into my home despite the doors and windows being shut. Indeed, I can't watch TV, enjoy my own music, read a book, what have you, if others are irresponsibly intruding on that private space in this manner. It's rather remarkable and not a little disturbing that anyone wanting to be taken half seriously could think otherwise.

 

 COMMENT 402527P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 06:51 AM

I live in the Samarkand neighborhood and the noise is really awful. We have to close our windows at night, and during the day, too, if we want to read in our own home! We got this information about contacts when the noise is too much: Excessive noise can be reported directly to Mr. Grieve via email at scott@earlwarren.com. Since EWS is a state facility, complaints can also be made to the California Highway Patrol at 805-967-1234. The more who call or email might have a positive impact on lowering that noise.
Also, why didn't the city post alternate side of the street parking for this Fair? If there were need for an ambulance or fire truck to get through our neighborhood, they would have had great difficulty Saturday. All streets all the way to Stanley were full of cars on both sides of the streets.

 

 COMMENT 402530 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 06:58 AM

I have emailed Frank Hotchkiss on the city council about this, he too said the city has limited ability to do anything. He contacted the manager of the facility, but obviously that did not do anything. I still think the city could do something if they wanted to, write your city council members, or maybe better yet write the county supervisors.

 

 COMMENT 402531P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 06:59 AM

Saturday night -- we're 2.4 miles away up on de la Guerra and our houses are vibrating-- and therefore, presumably, the entire town is shaking, loudly enough to hear both treble and base decibels of the Fairgrounds music. An entire city shouldn't have to be held hostage to this amount of noise! Imagine being ill and having that constant pounding going on. Suggestions on how to get the decibel parameters on Fairground use permits changed.????? The jurisdiction we are being referred to tonight is the dispatcher for the Highway Patrol, 477-4174 because the Fairgrounds is State property and in the jurisdiction of the Patrol. The Fairgrounds CEO is Scott Grieve and the Deputy Manager is Pat Cary, 687-0766, x 220 and x221, respectively. Scott@earlwarren.com and pat@earlwarren.com. Maybe they'll assist.

 

 COMMENT 402533 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 07:03 AM

Earl Warren is soooo loud. How loud is it? It's sooo loud that my o fell off my to!

 

 COMMENT 402535 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 07:11 AM

I am near Alice Keck, and I thought I heard a concert from The Bowl, but it was coming from the other direction. Wow that WAS loud.............

 

 COMMENT 402541P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 07:43 AM

Another issue is that DOZENS of people were crossing Las Positas on foot not in crosswalks. Remember when a guy got killed there just a couple of years ago?
There were many near misses yesterday. Fair parking in Samarkand should be prohibited, and shuttles from safer parking venues beefed up.

 

 COMMENT 402542 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 07:45 AM

The comments telling those of us who are concerned to "get over it" or "toke" should be deleted. The post is for people who are sincerely concerned and bothered. Don't be mean to us.

 

 COMMENT 402543 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 07:47 AM

511 The Airplane, Country Joe and The FIsh...long ago times.

 

 COMMENT 402544 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 07:51 AM

I'm in the hidden valley, and yes it was loud right up until closing time. Right now the whole family is sick with some super bug, it was hot out, but we had to close the windows to minimize the noise. The difference between the bowl and earl warren is the bowl is protected on all sides by earth, minimizing the impact of the sound to the surrounding area. Not the case at earl warren. Theres no way they're breaking a sou d ordinance, because there's no way the bands at the fair are pumping out as loud as a top notch act at the bowl. Here are just no walls or natural sound breaks to contain it. It's just one weekend folks.

 

 COMMENT 402545 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 07:54 AM

It's perfect in Goleta. I visited downtown SB twice this week and am happy I live in Goleta.

 

 COMMENT 402546 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 07:55 AM

While I agree there should be at least a curfew on the excessive noise, I can't believe someone is actually arguing that crossing the street should be banned. Seriously?

Since it sounds like there was ALREADY a massive police presence there, wouldn't it be FAR more reasonable to use an officer or 2 as crossing guards when there's an event, than banning an act as simple as crossing the street?

 

 COMMENT 402548 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 07:59 AM

What about the hearing damage? The fairgrounds is liable for allowing a dangerous condition to persist. Damage at 85 dB, you know it's louder than that. EWS please note you have been warned that you are creating a harmful environment. A class action lawsuit may be filed. Do you folks care at all about your community? We would like to hear a response.

 

 COMMENT 402555 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:10 AM

Cal OSHA are you listening?

 

 COMMENT 402557P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:15 AM

511 & 543, Paul Butterfield Blues Band and Electric Flag, musta been 45 years ago -- eek!

 

 COMMENT 402565 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:35 AM

Socott Grieve, EWS "CEO", does what he wants and is a failure with regard to being a active member of the community. The concerns of the surrounding neighborhoods fall on DEAF ears- he could care less. I had the opportunity to discuss EWS's responsibility when there was a super loud Polka-Rap-Bronco music concert a couple months back-Bottom line, Mr. Grieves doesn't care.

 

 COMMENT 402567P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:36 AM

Once a year is too much for the snobs in SB.... so sad! The music isn't contained at Earl Warren due to the layout of the city, it is not their fault and the music wasn't loud, it just carried... sort of how you can hear the fog horn from miles away when there is fog, the sound is carried. And growing up above the mission, under the right circumstances, you can hear the train whistle even though it is manyyyy miles away. I'm amazed at how many people complain on here, no wonder SB doesn't have much here that is family friend, no golf & fun or roller skating rinks or anything, because of the anti-fun group being too darned large, all they do is complain and moan & groan about everything while they stay home and do nothing. It's just one weekend a year and already over!!

 

 FLICKA agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:40 AM

Favorite concerts at Earl Warren; the Doors, Jimi, Janis. In those days the "Santana Blues Band" was a warm-up group; always had 3 bands and an incredible light show, better than anything today. First tickets $2.50 (bought ahead), $3.00 at the door.

 

 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:41 AM

Funny all I heard was a neighbor playing Santana, drunks comming back from the beach, and a gunshot or two.

 

 COMMENT 402574 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:42 AM

I live in Samarkand on the DLV side and surprisingly didn't even hear the noise (with windows open). HOWEVER, I will agree with a previous post about the parking. In previous years parking has been banned through the neighborhood - at least on one side of the street. The streets are very narrow and it really isn't safe for the whole 'hood to be packed the way it was. Thankfully the fair is over today and we really only have to deal with it one weekend a year!!

 

 COMMENT 402575P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:45 AM

You need to contact state legislators Das Williams and Hannah-Beth Jackson, since this is a state run facility.

While these two are always in our faces bragging about what good custodians of the environment they are, they let this quality of life disaster happen regularly in our own backyards and do nothing.

Massive hypocrisy from our elected representatives. They should have their faces in the paper right now saying they will do everything they can to protect us from this constant noisy blight. Hey, just turn it DOWN!

Thank you 524 at 6:27pm for posting the really critical information: the list of the directors of Earl Warren Showgrounds and their alleged mission statement.

Pick that mission statement apart line by line when you file your protests. Otherwise this is only a self-serving vanity operation, that is in violation of every single element of what they claim they are doing.

Hold each one of the directors personally responsible for violating their trust with the public.

 

 COMMENT 402579P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:49 AM

I'm going to posit this flat out: Just as sonar can disorient and kill whales, this heavy irregular vibration can do the same for humans. I was a very ill person last night with no place to run to, no place to hide from the vibrations.

 

 COMMENT 402580 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:49 AM

People with opinions opposing the concerned have the right to be on here. But it is thoughtless.

Hearing sensitivity is not exclusive to the "old fogey".

Extended and extreme loudness can disturb and disorient all ages. It can be torturous.

A sad me me world.

Is there any hope for the human race? Like the horse, for centuries our loyal equine friend, have we exceeded our importance, our usefulness, and our right to be respected?

We already know we are not necessary for reproduction - lab technology can take care of this.

 

 COMMENT 402581P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:50 AM

We heard constant deep bass pounding sounds coming from the Showgrounds and we are several miles away. Around 11pm. Their mission statement is a joke.

 

 COMMENT 402585 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:56 AM

The next time somebody wants to turn Earl Warren into condos I'm backing it all the way !

 

 COMMENT 402586P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:56 AM

Thank you again for this list - everyone who knows one of these people, please let them know what you think of their failed operational oversight.

Earl Warren Show Grounds Board of directors:

Chip Wullbrandt (Lawyer)

June Van Wingerden (Carpinteria flower business? )

Betty Weiner

Suzanne Perkins (Realtor)

Art Najera (Dentist?)

Corola Nicholson

Marshall Miller

Alex Rodriguez

Mary Rose (Public relations and marketer)

 

 COMMENT 402590 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 09:02 AM

I totally agree - in fact I think the entire fairgrounds and all its structures should be bulldozed - then, we should erect a monument to the idea that people were ever allowed to HAVE actual fun. Then around that monument we can have one vast graveyard for our children's hopes and dreams! Does that make everyone "happy"?

 

 COMMENT 402592P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 09:03 AM

Ditto 577. 1st world problems. 1000s had fun, from all walks of life. That should count for something. How many truly bothered? 50? I live in San Roque and couldn't hear anything. If I did (like the sound of the monster trucks years ago), I'd turn my tv up a lil louder, or play some music of my own. Tylenol pm works well, too. Las Positas is bound to be nuts, so take a different route. If you do drive that area, SLOW down, and be alert and patient. The fair is in town only once a year, have some fun!

 

 COMMENT 402595 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 09:08 AM

To all of you complainers of EWS volume out there, as yourselves this question, honestly: If the Santa Barbara Symphony was playing, with the sound up to the level you are upset about, would you still contact the facility about your concerns? Probably not. So, it's the type of music, rather than the loudness - yes? Well, that breaches another territory, not mentioned here. I say, congratulations EWS, bring it on. We enjoy the variety of sounds that emulate from that site. Maybe they should contact Marilyn Manson and his entourage for a concert! Please voice concerns over valid problems we do have in this neighborhood-parking, traffic, tree pruning, street and sidewalk repair, etc......

 

 COMMENT 402601P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 09:26 AM

402595 - your whole argument is based on your own fact-free conclusion.

Yes, I would complain no matter what kind of music was playing. I had a neighbor once who had a small classical quartet at his home, and I complained about the noise as did others.

So all of those steamy words are just pure gas.

 

 COMMENT 402614P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 10:23 AM

Any noise that loudly amplified would be offensive, whether it was Luciano Pavarotti or heavy metal. The sound level is the problem; not the content. Rewrite the acceptable decibel levels and enforce it. Simple as that. And establish fines when they are exceeded.

 

 COMMENT 402616P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 10:27 AM

By all means write to every one of the public board members because that is their job - to represent the public.

Who appoints them, how long is their term, are they compensated, can they be removed for dereliction of their mission statement?

 

 COMMENT 402618P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 10:29 AM

Don't know if it's all about money. What can be done so that it's not profitable for Earl Warren to have such loud concerts? Thanks for posting names of those on the Earl Warren board and their mission statement.

 

 COMMENT 402622P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 10:43 AM

It's interesting to see if there's an apology and is it sincere or just a "window dressing" response. Regrets, apologies and follow ups tell one a lot about an organization.

 

 COMMENT 402629P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 11:03 AM

Scott Grieve works at the pleasure of the EWS board of directors. They are the ones who need to be held accountable; not their executive director.

Demand remedial action from each and every named director. Let them deal with this as a collective public body, in public. If they blow off this recurring problem, make sure they do this in public for all to see.

Then investigate how they can be removed from their present positions. They want the public glory being appointed to this position; let them also show public responsibility.

 

 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 11:13 AM

How about Pat Boone? Would all of you complain if it was Pat Boone?

 

 COMMENT 402640P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 11:24 AM

If Pat Boone were blasting Love Letter in the Sand as loud as what was heard last night, there would be the very same complaints. Does everything have to be turned into a class envy scenario?

 

 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 11:44 AM

Will some people don't like rap. I think it's beautiful music myself.

 

 COMMENT 402650P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 11:51 AM

Send your complaints to the EWS board of directors: http://www.earlwarren.com/board.html

 

 COMMENT 402707P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 02:54 PM

It's not about the artist or the style of music...it's about volume. Noise is inconsiderate and shows disrespect for the neighbors. So loud it's audible for miles despite numerous complaints? That's a slap to the community. 800# gorillas sometimes need new trainers.

 

 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 08:58 PM

I used to sing Garth Brooks tunes to my old lady when I was drunk with her it was the music, she hated country she called the police on me acouple times. I saw Pam Tillis at the showgrounds about 20 years ago it was the only concert I ever saw there.

 

 COMMENT 402800P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-04-28 09:58 PM

List from the EWSG website - call them day or night when the noise gets bad:

Board of directors:

---Chip Wullbrandt
---June Van Wingerden
---Betty Weiner
---Suzanne Perkins
---Art Najera
---Corola Nicholson
---Marshall Miller
---Alex Rodriguez
---Mary Rose

 

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