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GV Hospital Jaywalking
updated: Mar 02, 2013, 4:30 PM

By Edhat Subscriber

What's with Patterson Avenue near Hollister in Goleta these days? Jaywalkers cross from GVHospital in middle of traffic just yards from crosswalks, while senior escapee from Buena Vista Retirement holds up traffic walking across busy traffic towards La Sumida Nursery.

It's a huge safety issue in our community and we've been trying to solve it with the hospital with no success. We're reaching out to get feedback and attention before someone else is run over. There was a terrible accident with a jaywalker last year and they continue to cross over in heavy traffic during lunch and when employees get off work, we honk, we yell "Use the Crosswalks nearby" but worry that another bad accident will happen.

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 COMMENT 380679 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 04:33 PM

Pedestrian overcrossing.

 

 COMMENT 380684 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 04:51 PM

I typically scream at them out the window. I mean I really let them have it and call them names in hopes of scaring them not to do it again. Sometimes I get out of my car with my camera and take pictures of the offenders and take them to the Police.

 

 COMMENT 380686P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 05:02 PM

Could it be the valet parkers from the hospital? I noticed they do this when retrieving cars. FWIW, I believe jt would be time consuming for them to go and wait at a crosswalk while we are waiting for them to retrieve our cars. I think they have enough experience where they know what they are doing crossing the street.

 

 COMMENT 380689 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 05:09 PM

Right on 684. Sometimes I even nudge them with my car.

 

 JFRANKLIN agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 05:18 PM

As someone who was been involved with an accident there last year, I can say something needs to be done. They especially need to put up some street lights.

 

 COMMENT 380699 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 05:22 PM

I'm afraid you're fighting mob-think. When people see others doing things that are dangerous and illegal they will justify that it's okay since "everyone is doing it". This is especially true of the very young.

They do not have right of way while jaywalking so if they get run over call it the consequences of their actions. It's not your job to protect them from their self destructive tendencies. Mom and dad are not there to shield them from themselves ... the helicopters have been grounded.

Good luck with your own feelings of angst over the hazardous driving conditions out there.

 

 COMMENT 380710 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 05:46 PM

This area is all within the City of Goleta. Has anyone taken this to the City Council? A pedestrian bridge or tunnel there makes a lot of sense.

Like all of the areas that were/are Noleta prior to cityhood, the County did a really terrible job of planning and the Patterson/Hollister intersection is an awful jumble of mixed-use and mixed aesthetics (the County evidently couldn't decide if the area should be pedestrian friendly with store fronts on Hollister or huge business park campuses with giant set backs).

But the (brand new) hospital's parking lot across the street from the hospital being left completely unresolved without a safe egress/ingress for hospital workers and patients? This was done on the City of Goleta's watch.

 

 COMMENT 380726 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 06:24 PM

Was it Joyce Dudley? she likes to do that. Do as I say and not as I do.

 

 NATURE BOY agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 06:40 PM

684: And what do the police do when you show them photos of jaywalkers?

 

 JBYRD agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 07:05 PM

I too get frustrated with jaywalkers, but that area is not just bad with jaywalking. I work in the Mentor building and cross in the cross walk to go to South Coast and Mama's Bakery. Several times I have almost been tagged by a speeding, inattentive driver. Thank god I pay attention. That place could use increased enforcement for a while to get BOTH sides attention, that would help a bunch. A few people get tickets and word gets around.

 

 COMMENT 380783 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 08:43 PM

"senior escapee"?

 

 COMMENT 380784 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 08:44 PM

hit them with your car...eventually they will learn

 

 COMMENT 380788 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 08:52 PM

I had a guy yell at me for jaywalking out there last year. Scratching my key along the side of his car made him quiet down in a hurry.

 

 COMMENT 380789 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-02 08:55 PM

Talk to the City Council. But their solution will be an electronic light road crossing system that will delay traffic even more. You sure that's what you want?

 

 SHAKEY agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-03 12:55 AM

I like the good old, pretend your on your cell phone and looking the other way trick !!

 

 COMMENT 380867P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-03 08:24 AM

I admit I sometimes jay-walk a ways away from such a confusing intersection. Fifty feet away, there is less confusion: 2 lanes with traffic only coming from 1 direction; an island to stand on and rest; then repeat: 2 lanes with traffic coming only from 1 direction. No cross traffic, no side traffic. This is a huge confusing intersection for pedestrians, especially seniors, with fast batches of cars crossing and turning this way and that constantly. Just because the white "walk" icon turns on, that doesn't make it LOOK safe for walking across! Mid-street cross-walks, like those on State Street, work with slower traffic and fewer lanes. I don't visualize them working in this situation. 679's walking bridge suggestion, probably too expensive, etc., really is good.

 

 COMMENT 380880 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-03 08:47 AM

Hire able Buena Vista retirement seniors as crossing guards to give them a little side income and provide safe crossing to pedestrians. Make the hospital pay for it.

 

 COMMENT 380899 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-03 10:01 AM

Unfortunately, the "jay walking" laws, in California, are confusing. In order to be an illegal jay walk, both intersections have to be controlled, otherwise walking across the street in the middle is not illegal.

Lower State Street has every intersection, from Victoria to Cabrillo, with a traffic light to control traffic, and several blocks have stop lights in the middle of the block, to allow foot traffic. It is illegal to walk across the street and not be in the cross walk.

On lower State Street, between Victoria and Sola, there is an intersection that is not regulated (Arlington), so you can legally jay walk.

Unfortunately, the intersections at Patterson & Hollister are such that it is legal to jay walk. That being said, because of the speed of traffic and the timing of the lights, it is not a smart place to jay walk.

Hope this has helped shed light on the issue.

 

 COMMENT 380921 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-03 11:04 AM

853 for the win!

 

 COMMENT 380926 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-03 11:13 AM

Traffic is heavy, the street is very wide coming across from the large parking lot, the existing automatic cross-walk system is inconvenient and as planners should know, that means it won't be used effectively. The only realistic solution there is a pedestrian overcrossing.

 

 BONNER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-03 11:21 AM

699.."They do not have right of way while jaywalking so if they get run over call it the consequences of their actions. It's not your job to protect them from their self destructive tendencies. Mom and dad are not there to shield them from themselves ... "
Are you kidding, it's also to protect myself as I've almost hit several who dart out in between cars when the sun is setting and you can't see them. Downtown cottage has a sign "Use the crosswalks" outside of parking lot and seems to help. Most of the crossers are wearing nurse tops or have keys on band around neck, not to mention all the visitors. The lot is temporary until hospital is completed so nothing will be done by City that's permanent, but I frankly don't want to run into someone in the meantime! Stupid not to take forceful action.

 

 COMMENT 380978 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-03 03:59 PM

"It's a huge safety issue in our community" -- sorry, no. I'm calling out the hyperbole. It's a very minor issue at best, and it's not even jaywalking, as RODSUMNER pointed out.

Move along now, just like the pedestrians.

 

 COMMENT 381220 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-04 11:42 AM

Over time Darwinism fixes dangerous jay walking habits.

 

 COMMENT 381275 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-04 02:00 PM

I was just thinking about posting something about this!

I live in the apartment complex across from the hospital on Patterson. It is like driving through an obstacle course with the number of people darting out of the bushes and across the street. I will, of course, yield for people needing to cross the street, but if I can't see them because of the sun glare or because it is night and they are wearing dark colors, I get nervous! There are two perfectly good crosswalks on either side of the hospital to Patterson that are used about 5% of the time. The other 95% is with dangerous conditions for jaywalkers. Something needs to change. I feel like the hospital needs to do something about it, since most people are wearing hospital garb.

 

 COMMENT 381327 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-04 05:02 PM

The hospital should inform their staff that if they don't use the crosswalks they will get written up. After all, the woman who stepped in front of the motorcycle at dusk was an employee of GVCH. I also see people walking in the crosswalk without bothering to hit the button that activates the flashers. Not worth the risk, folks. Have we become so lazy that we can't be bothered to walk the short distance to the crossing? Must be the same folks who will hold up a long line of cars to wait for someone to vacate a space that is closest to their destination when there are plenty of spaces nearby.

 

 COMMENT 381683 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-03-05 03:26 PM

It is frustrating when people try using the crosswalk without using the button! Come on people....so close!

I agree about getting written up from the hospital- maybe they feel like they can cross in safety because if they do get hurt, at least there is a hospital nearby?

 

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