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updated: Feb 17, 2013, 8:01 AM

By Edhat Subscriber

A car was stolen from the new residential complex built on the grounds of the old St. Francis Hospital. The car was parked in the underground garage. In addition, a package was stolen from someone's front door. I has just moved to the neighborhood I now I am wondering if I made the wrong decision. Please share your stories of stolen property in this neighborhood.

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 EDDIEKD agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 08:40 AM

Your neighborhood? How about all of Santa Barbara. I've lived her 35 years, and am seeing a petty crime, vandalism and burglary wave like never before.
Your neighborhood may currently be an extra attractive target because thieves capitalize on inattention and the availability of package deliveries left for new residents (though I am not sure what thieves do with Pottery Barn furnishings). But make no mistake, this is happening in every neighborhood.
I truly worry about the direction this will go. More imprisoned criminals are being let out early, and more punky young homeless people (not the mentally ill ones, but the slacker grunge ones that are homeless and parasitic via free will and choice) are congregating here. Yet there is no accompanying increase in the number of police officers to protect us or aggressiveness of prosecution to punish. Property crimes are just too easy of pickings.
People, what can be done? Our town used to be a place where people knew each other and felt safe. It's becoming the opposite.


 COMMENT 375343 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 09:20 AM

My take on it is, sb is small. Even areas that are nice, are not far from areas that aren't. Things happen, crimes happen. The way to prevent them is to report them and do what you can to deter more from happening. people walk in sb from everywhere so it's easy to see how criminals can travel in our city

Example, at a condo complex with underground parking. The gate should only be opened when you come in and out, people shouldnt keep it open because " they are going to be right back... " same with another other locked door. It won't work unless you actually close it.

Package theft is defiantly a crime of opportunity, take away the opportunity.

I too miss the days of knowing my. Neighbors and actually trusting them. But I think that's because of other reason, society not just sb. Good luck op, don't sell the place just yet


 COMMENT 375344 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 09:21 AM

we have enough police. The issue is simply prosecution and "what to do with the guilty"

Our county jail is already full and building another one doesn't make sense (like an extra lane on the freeway - it too will become clogged in short order)

No. What we should do is what San Antonio does with it's homeless : Round them up and drop them outside of town limits.

Round em up - put them on a train east


 COMMENT 375348 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 09:24 AM

The question was: "Did I move into the wrong neighborhood"... and the answer is yes. But then again, since you are likely affiliated with Cottage somehow, all the people near your employer are asking the same thing since Cottage started running roughshod over the property owners in that section of town. So deal with it, or go away.


 COMMENT 375351 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 09:28 AM

Don't ge me started on St. Francis......


 COMMENT 375353P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 09:31 AM



 COMMENT 375368 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 10:17 AM

You think that's bad...
Wait till you find out it was built on the
Old catholic cemetary..
Look it up ..that is if you don't believe me.
Forget sbpd..they are worried about
Rogue officers..its time for...


 COMMENT 375378 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 10:30 AM

Crime happens everywhere. I live a block from you and it's one of the nicest/safest neighborhoods in Santa Barbara so I would say you made an excellent choice.


 COMMENT 375395 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 11:23 AM

I wouldn't get too paranoid. I live in a "nice" neighborhood far from areas commonly associated with tagging and yet we got graffiti on a stone wall a few years ago. Modern bad guys are mobile opportunists. And package stealing has been going on all over town - targeting more affluent areas for bigger payoffs makes sense.

I was born in St. Francis. I'm glad Cottage was able to secure housing for medical staff. We should be thankful we have decent medical care in this town. It's difficult to really know whether neighbors were wronged or are just being intransigent NIMBY's in a dynamic world.


 COMMENT 375399 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 11:38 AM

You will be hard pressed to find any sympathy frm any of your immediate neighbors.


 COMMENT 375440 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 01:24 PM



 COMMENT 375446P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 01:41 PM

What were the circumstances? Was the car broken into or left unlocked? If the latter, that's just foolish. Were there valuable things left visible in the car? I just wonder if there were "invitations" left for thieves. If so, expect trouble.


 COMMENT 375471P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 02:17 PM

No, not a bad neighborhood. It's new, with people that don't know each other. This is a good reason to spend time outside in the next month and get to know each other.


 COMMENT 375501 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 04:25 PM

it's not a new neighborhood. It WAS a safe old neighborhood until a bunch of out of town developers came in and sold the new OC style cubicles to a bunch of out of towners. As expected, crime has followed.


 COMMENT 375505 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 05:16 PM

Get to know your neighbors and be vigilant. We have lived on the 400 block of the east side for 25 years and it's the best area to live in town. Convenient to everything and quiet.


 COMMENT 375511 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 06:02 PM

I live 3 blocks from St. Francis and i've had two bikes stolen and a bike and a Vespa vandalized. But that's par for the course -- no matter what neighborhood. I'd still say that SB is safer than plenty of other cities. It's not an upper-east-side problem, nor a Santa Barbara problem, nor a California problem, nor a United States problem. It's a humanity in general problem, sadly.


 COMMENT 375538 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 08:19 PM

Nature Boy, that's really too bad you've had the bikes stolen and the vandalism.

But I disagree that it's par for the course in every neighborhood. I will agree it can HAPPEN (and does) in every single area of town, but there are certainly places it is a very rare occurrence.


 COMMENT 375550P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 09:18 PM

Yes. I have been robbed, too. My City Council okayed a massive and ugly ( and supposed) workforce project, with plenty of "Market Rate" homes tacked on, and crammed them all into a space which could have and should have been dedicated to elder care.

My peace and quiet have been stolen. My once quiet street is looking more and more like the Indy 500. The uglification of my neighborhood is permanent. The electric shuttle Cottage promised (meant to schlepp Cottage employees to and fro) is non-existent. Where can I report these crimes and get justice?

Don't get me wrong: I don't blame people for moving into this project; I blame the neighbors who were too silly/too busy to protest this development. Cottage is a cancer.


 COMMENT 375555P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 09:50 PM

I'm very sorry to hear of your loss. Moving forward, just remember to never leave stuff in your car and always lock it.
As for all the ugly un-neighborly comments posted here, I hope none of the posters ever wind up at Cottage Hospital wanting help from you. Health care, IMO, is a thankless job. I'm so greatful there are people in this world who will care for others in their darkest hours.


 COMMENT 375563P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-17 11:24 PM

550P: The neighbors did protest loudly and at length, but Cottage has all the council in their (deep) pockets and what Cottage wanted, Cottage got.

When a neighborhood changes and becomes more dense, crime nearly always follows. Just wait until Milpas becomes more dense, as councilmembers Bendy White up for reelection, wants! That part of the east side will be happy hunting ground.


 COMMENT 375571 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-18 04:44 AM

hello Dear....robberies, murders, rapes, all kind of mayhem have no boundaries.....there is no "right" or "wrong" neighborhoods.

You'd think a wealthy (you are implying poorer) neighborhood would be the first and only profitable place crimes would be committed.


 COMMENT 375598 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-18 07:50 AM

Poor people steal even when they get wealthy. Video surveillance everywhere, good parents and alert neighbors will help. Cops can't arrest what they can't see.
I've been hit by car breakin theft recently, I have video of the guy when he tried the second time. Cops couldn't arrest..my car was locked. And he's in a nice, fairly expensive neighborhood. Hence my first note.


 FLICKA agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-18 07:58 AM

Neighborhoods are crowded because people keep moving here. It started after WWII and none of the changes have made it better. Why blame the homeless for robberies? They aren't the only crooks around. Having a car stolen is awful! I drive one no one would want; if they stole it, they'd deserve it.


 COMMENT 375614P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-18 08:33 AM

Start a Neighborhood Watch. SBPD can tell you how.

It is the best and cheapest protection you can get. It works well for aid in earthquakes and fires as well and, contrary to its name, it does not attract "prying" eyes.

I think SBPD still posts signs up that your neighborhood is a NW area, and the crooks will go elsewhere. We started one 15 years ago and have not had a single crime since!


 COMMENT 375647 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-18 09:34 AM

Thieves and criminals target the nicer areas of town. DUH!


 COMMENT 375658 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-18 09:48 AM

You live right in an area represented by one of the most active and cohesive Neighborhood Associations in town: Bungalow Haven Neighborhood Association. Meets monthly - and has regular cocktail parties! Join it. Call 965-2296 if interested for details.


 COMMENT 375677P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-18 10:20 AM

The major crime is that St. Francis hospital was closed and bought by Cottage. We'll be feeling that for quite a while. All the people who gifted lots of money to St. Francis, appreciating its special qualities - where did all that money go? Now just wait for Sansum and Cottage to unite.


 COMMENT 375814 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-18 03:00 PM

Eddiekid: Here is the short answer, especially on the homeless people you mentioned......84% of the overcrowded jail is used for people waiting for their court date. That only leaves 16% for "new" arrestees. The homeless and other petty criminals (graffitti, etc.) know they are not going to jail. There is nothing to deter them. It's not so much needing more police officers as needing more beds in the jail. This is a problem the county has done nothing about for 20 or 30 years. Now we are seeing the results of the inaction (not to mention the AB109 prisoners being sent back to serve their time here rather than in the state prisons).


 COMMENT 375820 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-18 03:08 PM

Alternately, there's a lot to be said about highly regressive laws leading to skyrocketing incarceration rates (we are #1 in the world!) and that the solution is not more jails, but a re-evaluation of our law enforcement priorities and how we handle things.


 COMMENT 376752 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-20 03:40 PM

Where do you think all of the pandga boat people went - they are trying to live - theft is common in Mexico and further south, so why not here. They add to the homeless but are more aggressive. It's scarey times.


 COMMENT 378004 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-23 07:42 PM

It's to bad your vehicle was stolen.. Im born and raised in SB 37 yrs and yes this town has changed...
Although I don't put blame on those who moved into the low income CHS condos .. I do agree that they should have made an effort to save St Francis. Cottage is a money grudging business their claim is "patients first " but we all know who comes first.. :)
Those employees who could never afford to purchase a house let alone in California.. thought they benefitted from buying into the Cottage dream ..lol well you guys get what you pay for... :) I also have to add that i too have read about the Riviera cemetery.. I'm glad I don't have to live on that energy..


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