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Goleta Beach Eucalyptus
updated: Feb 05, 2013, 7:08 PM

By Edhat Subscriber

When were the beautiful Eucalyptus trees, that held the herons' nests, just west of the Beachside restaurant, cut down? The herons and their offspring, pooped on all the cars below. My husband and I disagree. I say it was about 20 years ago and my husband says less than three!

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 COMMENT 371212P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 08:14 PM

About thee years ago. Cormorants used to roost in the trees, and their droppings fell on the cars. The cormorants then moved to the eucs across the slough, and whitened the vegetation under the trees.


 COMMENT 371213P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 08:14 PM

I vote with hubby... seems like it was a more recent event.


 COMMENT 371233P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 10:03 PM

If birds poop in their former habitat places (but people now live there), trees get cut down so they can't do that anymore (and especially not raise more young in those trees). If people poop, it just goes into the ocean and everything is ok.


 COMMENT 371243P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 10:22 PM

371233P - I believe that youngsters were only raised in the trees across the Slough - away from people, cars and dogs.


 COMMENT 371256P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 12:38 AM

Oh how I HATE tree removal! I had no idea those trees were gone. What a terrible thing. I have often stood there with my binoculars and watched the herons.

Shame on everyone involved in murdering those trees.


 COMMENT 371260 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 02:26 AM

No fears, the Herons are thriving in huge numbers in the Eucs across the slough.


 COMMENT 371262P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 05:42 AM

I love trees and hate to see them come down but the poop was beyond bad. Luckily they could move just yards away to the other trees... 256P - I hope you don't live in a house made with wood, you murderer!!!


 COMMENT 371263 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 06:26 AM

Before one gets upset; eucalyptus trees are dangerous and they are non-native. They're called widow makers for a good reason. They are also extremely flammable; that's probably not an issue close to the beach. Perhaps those that are concerned can ask the city why they were removed. Maybe they were sick? Perhaps they were causing other problems, like eroding the ground beneath them?


 COMMENT 371270P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 07:06 AM

263: It's in the county, not the city; good luck in getting any info from the county!


 COMMENT 371278 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 07:22 AM

256-Get a grip.They are known as the biggest weed in california.


 COMMENT 371282 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 07:39 AM

The Eucalyptus immediately west of the Beachside Cafe supported nesting Great Blue Herons until 1991. At that time some trees were severely trimmed and the herons moved to the Eucs on the Southern California Gas property on the north side of the estuary channel where they are nesting now. The colony grew in size until approximately 14-17 pairs nested there in 2009. Great Egrets began to nest in the heron rookery in 2002. Double-crested Cormorants began to nest there in 2008. The cormorants now outnumber the herons and the nesting area has spread eastwards in the Eucs nearly 100 meters.


 COMMENT 371292P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 07:57 AM

371282 - thank you for just the facts.


 COMMENT 371293P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 07:58 AM

The cormorant droppings really wreck a tree. They may have been so oxygen-starved from the leaves covered with droppings, or gradually poisoned by the droppings, and become unsafe.


 COMMENT 371298 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 08:11 AM

Isn't it funny how the fate of almost every other living thing on this planet always seems to revolve around our needs. Humanity will eventually suffer the consequences of our constant abuse of nature. The mass die-offs of honey bee colonies, among other examples, offers us a pretty clear warning of things to come. How dare those birds poop on my nice, shiny automobile.


 COMMENT 371305P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 08:30 AM

Actually, less harmful cleaning agents would be used with no poop on cars. Less parking area clean up would be required.

Funny that humans planted the exotic eucs that are harmful to the environment, yet there are cries when humans remove them.


 COMMENT 371317 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 08:54 AM

Widow makers?


 COMMENT 371320 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 08:57 AM

Tourists would come to the beach in rental convertibles with the top down and look for a shady spot. An hour later, the interior would be ruined. Eucalyptus are a non-native species so a few less isn't going to hurt. The Cormorants found another place to hang out and poop, further from exhaust fumes. The trees were removed approximately 3-4 years ago, not 20.


 COMMENT 371322P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 09:08 AM

"Australia is known for its eucalyptus trees, although only two varieties are naturally found in the Northern Territory: the red river gum (Eucalyptus camaldulensis) and the Darwin woollybutt (Eucalyptus minata). The red river gum is a common tree along the waterways of the Northern Territory and is frequently the dominant species of these ecosystems. It is a medium to tall tree, sometimes reaching heights of 100 feet, and is greatly varied in its growth habit depending on its environment. The red river gum blooms from late spring until early summer, with masses of cream-colored flowers. The Darwin woollybutt is a small variety of eucalyptus with dark-brown, peeling bark on its trunk and papery, white bark on its upper branches. It is easily distinguishable from other eucalyptus trees by its bright orange flowers and star-shaped seedpods. Both varieties of Northern Territory eucalyptus trees are colloquially called "widow makers" for their tendency to drop large branches without warning."



 COMMENT 371334 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 09:30 AM

371293P - No, the cormorant droppings do not really wreck a tree. No, they don't become oxygen-starved from the leaves covered with droppings, or gradually poisoned by the droppings. Trees respirate through the underside of the leaves, not the top of the leaves so the droppings are not a problem. Bird dropping are one of the best fertilizers there is so they are not being poisoned. Eucalyptus trees are perceived to be dangerous for other reasons; their brittle wood and their oil rich bark that peels and accumulates around their base.


 COMMENT 371338 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 09:37 AM

The droppings are a source of disease, pollution and just plain disgusting. Wake up people! Bird droppings are NOT a source of fertilizer!


 COMMENT 371369 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 10:30 AM

I'm with Dirty Harry on this one. People want cyotes, squirrels and anything "wild" removed from their neighborhoods,along with tall trees cut. Too many self-centered people indulging their "high class" problems. Mother Nature is in charge and because humans are destroying almost every other species, we'll be inheriting what we created: toxic pollution, not enough potable water, and GMO food. I'm glad I'm a senior and won't be around. On another note, the City is tree trimming crazy as shown by the removal of Palms on Cliff Drive and the butchering of trees at places such as the Douglas Preserve. They seem to hire men who can use a chain saw with no knowledge about the trees. Almost all of these actions are resulting from not trusting humans to have common sense -- don't climb too high, park your car elsewhere, and comprehend what Nature does for us.


 COMMENT 371381P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 10:49 AM

"Eucs" are not "wild".


 COMMENT 371388P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 10:54 AM

"Guano (via Spanish, ultimately from the Quechua wanu, meaning "dung") is the feces and urine of seabirds, cave-dwelling bats, and seals. Guano manure is a highly effective fertilizer due to its high phosphorus and nitrogen content and its relative lack of odor compared to other forms of organic fertilizer such as horse manure."

"In agriculture and gardening guano has a number of uses, including as: soil builder, lawn treatments, fungicide (when fed to plants through the leaves), nematicide (decomposing microbes help control nematodes), and as composting activator (nutrients and microbes speed up decomposition).[1]"


Yep, it is really bad stuff. How did the earth survive with it?


 COMMENT 371402 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 11:15 AM

The poop concentrated by the restaurant was a big problem. We had a college reunion at the restaurant and 1 of the women came out to find her car totally covered with poop . She had to immediately go to a car wash to get the acid off her car.


 COMMENT 371417P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 11:38 AM

The Beachside is one of my favorite restaurants. I was glad to see the Eucs removed due to the stinky mess of bird poop over the years. Cormorants had created a similar mess at he Santa Barbara zoo which made it unpleasant to visit the area with the Island Fox and Condor exhibits. Those cormorants have moved to several trees on Ortega Hill along 101 where their nests and poop have partly defoliated the Eucs. I was told that the 101 construction activity 24-7 near the zoo disturbed them so they moved. It appears that the Eucs at the zoo have recovered fully.


 COMMENT 371440P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 12:17 PM

Guano is great stuff. Someone could have had an excellent business collecting and bagging "Genuine Gold Coast seabird poop"; selling description: "From the rich lands of Montecito to the good lands of Goleta, our poop will make your garden then envy of your neighbors!"
...Still can be done.

As for washing the car, oh, dear me, sob!

Eucs are wild in the same way as sparrows are wild; both like all humans living in this area came originally from someplace else.


 COMMENT 371461P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 01:15 PM

There are many species of native sparrows. The house sparrow is imported. Humans are not wild.


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