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updated: Feb 05, 2013, 11:55 AM

A man who fired multiple gunshots into the air in Isla Vista pleaded guilty to discharging a firearm with gross negligence.

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 COMMENT 371027 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 12:18 PM

240 days? Damn.


 COMMENT 371030P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 12:22 PM

FTA: "Thomas Christensen, 21, will not be allowed to possess any firearms and will also be ordered to spend 240 days in County Jail..." Is that ban for ever or just 240 days?


 COMMENT 371033P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 12:25 PM

027, bullets coming back to earth can wound or kill, so IMHO 240 days (~34 weeks) is warranted.


 COMMENT 371034P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 12:26 PM

I would certainly hope he is now banned forever from owning a firearm after such a stupid act. If not, then why do we even have gun control laws?


 COMMENT 371050P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 12:58 PM

Not a career enhancing move, being a convicted felon when looking for work.


 COMMENT 371058 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 01:10 PM

1030... a felony conviction means he won't pass a background check to legally own a gun. Of course, there is always the gun show loophole.


 COMMENT 371065 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 01:27 PM

058 - There is no "gun show loophole" in California. It was closed by state legislation years ago.

California is one of six states that require all firearm transactions including private party transactions (or a sale from a private collection) to go through a firearms dealer (including all gun show transactions). The gun show loophole currently exists in 33 states. There are 11 other states that have rules that limit gun show transactions in some ways, but not as restrictive as California, Colorado, Illinois, New York, Oregon and Rhode Island.


 COMMENT 371070 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 01:37 PM

If you are on felony probation you cannot own a gun. After probation, I'm unsure. From the story, "Thomas Christensen, 21, will not be allowed to possess any firearms and will also be ordered to spend 240 days in County Jail as part of the terms of the agreement, prosecutor Kevin Weichbrod said." It's unclear if he will EVER be allowed to own a gun.


 COMMENT 371072 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 01:48 PM

Glad no one was hurt. IV has such a dense population (no pun intended) the probablility of those bullets hitting someone on the way down was very high.


 COMMENT 371084 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 02:29 PM

072 if by very high you mean so close to zero that you could basically call it zero, then sure!


 COMMENT 371085P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 02:33 PM

084 - really? there is basically NO possibility at all that bullets fired into the air could come back down and hit somebody? Really? You are familiar with this thing called "gravity" right?


 COMMENT 371097 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 03:05 PM

065 already covered 058's error on the gun show loophole, 095. Low content posting is such a waste.

(On the other hand, maybe someone can clarify this: What's the legality of going into another state that DOES have the gun show loophole, buying a gun, and then bringing it back into CA?)


 COMMENT 371103 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 03:17 PM

Jeez guys the mythbusters have already proven that bullets (shot straight up in the air) falling to earth don't have enough kinetic energy to kill anything. I suggest you check out the mythbusters ep that covered it. Its very interesting. Science is better than myth.


 COMMENT 371113P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 03:36 PM

103 - I saw that one too. But they were shooting vertically. If the bullet is not shot straight up, but at even a slight angle, it may not slow down enough and could very possibly kill anything it hits.

I think the point here is, DO NOT shoot guns into the air!


 COMMENT 371117 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 03:45 PM

Actually bullets fired up into the air do not have the velocity to kill. They fall back to earth at the very same 166 ft/s everything else does and bounce off of most things they hit... Search Mythbusters for a more detailed explanation.

Not that shooting a gun up into the air is a good idea, its just not deadly. But it sure would give you a headache.


 COMMENT 371131 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 04:08 PM

103 - 072 here, I said nothing about the bullet killing anyone. What I did say was that I am glad nobody got hurt, and yes a falling bullet would be painful. Btw Mythbusters is a bunch of BS, don't believe everything you see on TV.


 COMMENT 371144 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 04:23 PM

131 unless you have some better proof than the mythbusters experiments I suggest you don't believe everything you hear. You can watch the EP and make your own assumptions. You will learn they are very good at what they do. Why would they fake it? The truth is more entertaining.


 COMMENT 371149 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 04:28 PM

Except the Mythbusters episode being referenced here dealt with guns being fired at 90 degrees into the air, AKA straight up. It didn't deal at all with bullets fired at an angle less than 90 degrees, which has been proven on more than one occasion to have the potential to kill people. There's a great thing on StackExchange about this with some great math by actual physicists instead of people who are paid to make this stuff look great on TV.

Not to mention the fact that they mention in the Mythbusters episode (episode 50, by the way) they mention that bullets fired below 90 degrees can travel a great distance and inflict harm.

The moral of the story is this: TV is not a reliable source for information. Do your own research, educate yourself and stop listening to Adam and Jamie as if they are the Only True Scientific Gospel.


 COMMENT 371176 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 05:25 PM

149- thats exactly what this kid in IV was doing. he didn't trust mythbusters and was doing the bullet test himself.


 COMMENT 371183 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-05 06:01 PM

1095...1058 here.

Do you mean to say as a felon this fellow can legally own a gun in CAL? Or that he can't go to a gun show in any nearby state (thanks 1065 for the info on CAL. Gun Shows), buy a gun and waltz back into Calif with it?


 COMMENT 371352 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-02-06 09:53 AM

Conceptually, a person could buy at a gun show in say Arizona and bring the weapon across the state line.

It is illegal even in a private party face to face transaction to sell the gun in Arizona to a non-resident of Arizona, but there is no third party check to verify the sale is going to a resident or non-resident. It is up to the person selling the gun to verify or accept the residency statement of the person buying the weapon.

All interstate sales are required to be handled through Federal Firearms Licensed dealers (FFL) for both sides of the transaction. This is true for all 50 states.

Additionally on interstate sales to California, the gun has to be a model that can be legally held in California. That part of the transaction is verified by the California FFL on an incoming transaction.


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