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Jehovah Witnesses
updated: Jan 25, 2013, 9:15 AM

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I moved downtown to an apartment about a month ago and have yet to tell everyone of my new address. In the past three weekends, I have had Jehovah Witnesses at my door. The weird thing is none of them live in my small hidden complex and they've only gone to my apartment. How did they know I just moved there and know my name? Does the Post Office sell my information when I put in a change of address?

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 COMMENT 367294 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 09:22 AM

That's creepy. Did you tell them not to come back? When they come to my door I tell them I grew up as a Fundamentalist and am now a Buddhist so they know I'm a hopeless case.

 

 COMMENT 367295 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 09:23 AM

"The simplest explanation is best." One of them or one of their associates saw you move in or knows you're new there.

Cue "Minority Report" conspiracists, techno buffs, and tin foil hatters....

 

 COMMENT 367298P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 09:24 AM

I had some Mormons come to my place once pretty soon after I moved in and, after convincing them I had my own religion, they asked if any of my neighbors could use "saving." I told them I had no idea - I didn't want to bother my new neighbors.

So, maybe one of your new neighbors thinks you need "saving"

 

 COMMENT 367302 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 09:29 AM

Be careful, they could be casing your apartment. Moving trucks and boxes on the curb are a sure sign new tenants. By knocking on your door and posing as JW they can get a look, albeit brief, inside your place to look for valuable items in plain view. Since your neighbors may not be all that familiar with who you are and who has been helping you move, someone going in or out with boxes might not raise suspicion. Make sure you have changed your own locks, and provided your landlord with copies, to make sure the old tenants don't still have a set.

Or maybe when they ask you about Jesus, you ask them about Allah. That should keep them away.

 

 COMMENT 367308 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 09:37 AM

I recently had some Christians at my door asking if I had found Jesus. I didn't know he was lost.

 

 COMMENT 367310 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 09:38 AM

Sadly, they don't get the message until you are flat out rude to them.
Tell them where to stick the watchtower, if they have been back 3 times they think they are breaking you down.
As for how they found you, God told them! Silly

 

 COMMENT 367311P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 09:39 AM

Put a note on your door that says, "No soliciting." They'll stay away.

 

 COMMENT 367312 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 09:39 AM

Most of these people are very nice. Just tell them you're not interested and they will wish you a good day and move along. You can always just not answer the door. I once had Das Williams show up at my door on a Sunday morning, that was far more obnoxious.

 

 COMMENT 367313 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 09:39 AM

Its highly unlikely the Mormon missionaries said that. They don't save people nor ask for for referalls. They simply go door to door teaching about Jesus. Explain to anyone that comes that you don't wish to be disturbed again and they will likely comply.

 

 COMMENT 367315P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 09:43 AM

313 - It's not only likely, it's a cold, hard FACT. I was out raking leaves and we started chatting. Once I had them convinced I was all set, they did in FACT ask if I knew if any of my neighbors needed "help"

Fact.

 

 COMMENT 367323P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 10:00 AM

They work off of a grid. They log which residences have been contacted, which haven't, those that are not to be contacted, etc. and update the grid regularly at meetings.

 

 SBSURFERLIFE agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 10:05 AM

creeeeeeepy

 

 COMMENT 367330 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 10:10 AM

I am usually a nice person, but I take exception to trespassing. I literally tell them "thank you, but you need to get off of my property". Sometimes I wonder if they are casing. The last time I kicked them off, they congregated on my sidewalk for 5 minutes, making me think they are not as nice as they act... Either way- they are annoying!

 

 COMMENT 367333 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 10:12 AM

Yes; that is different than your initial post. HELP is true. SAVING is not. See-we agree.

 

 COMMENT 367334 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 10:16 AM

302, why would someone who just moved in be more desirable to burglars?

 

 COMMENT 367337 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 10:21 AM

I had two women at my door claiming they were deaf and looking for households with deaf people in them. These women were dressed casually, were twenty-somethings and had no visible ID displayed.

The woman woh did the speaking did seem to have the sort of voice and cadance one hears from hearing impaired speakers.

I told them to leave immediately. It had a funny feel to it and seemed like a bogus story.

 

 COMMENT 367346 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 10:32 AM

In my experience, if they are really Jehovah's Witnesses, you can ask them to put you on their list of people who do not want any contact, and they will comply. Be clear that you are not interested now _and_ for the future.

 

 COMMENT 367352 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 10:42 AM

Answer the door naked. Problem solved.

 

 COMMENT 367358 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 11:03 AM

I take the opportunity of such visitors to witness for Darwin!

 

 COMMENT 367363 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 11:08 AM

337 - I had something similar almost a year ago! I'm out in Goleta near the library. It was very odd. I replied in some ASL that I learned years ago. They went away.

 

 COMMENT 367367 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 11:13 AM

Jehovah sent them

 

 COMMENT 367373 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 11:27 AM

They have lists they work off and watch when new people move in.


Because they do not want to be known for bothering neighbors that know them, usually it is a group from a different area that comes a knocking. You might not have gotten off all of the lists to not contact.

BUT, they feel every 6 months is a good time to re-vist you in case you have changed your minds.

 

 COMMENT 367383 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 11:40 AM

Your neighbors sent them to you. I do that all the time.

 

 COMMENT 367385P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 11:42 AM

Why do Jehovah Witnesses have inverted nipples?
So many people poking them in the chest, saying "Get off my property."

 

 COMMENT 367392P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 11:56 AM

Two of them visited me while I was in my yard last weekend. I told them I practiced the religion of Samba.

They both looked confused and mouthed the word "Samba". Then they asked me what it was about, and I said it was a "dance from Brazil." (I'm part of a Brazlian dance group here in town.)

They asked me if I enjoyed dancing, and I said, "Yes, and dancing is my only religion."

I smiled at them and wished them good day. Confused, they burst into laughter and went on their way.

Basically you can switch out "Samba" for whatever your religion is: beer, Twinkies, needlework...

 

 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 11:57 AM

They are undercover Zombies they want to eat your brain....I'd move but they will find you even if you move...Just keep moving never stop. You might be able to fool them for awhile but sooner or later they will stick a straw in your ear and suck your brain out of it...

 

 COMMENT 367394 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 11:57 AM

A friend used to say,"Good morning, I was just about to have a cocktail and watch porno,...would you like to join me?" Works every time and they don't come back.

 

 COMMENT 367417 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 12:31 PM

I politely tell them I am not interested and point to the sign by the doorbell that they just pushed that says "welcome friends, no solicitations". They pay attention and don't come back (unlike some campaign workers and magazine sellers).

 

 COMMENT 367419 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 12:34 PM

I tell them I am a christian and saved, chiefly because the Christian God has a bigger pen_s then those other God's.

 

 SHOREBIRD agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 01:11 PM

You are on the JWHL Jehovah's Witness Hit List.

 

 COMMENT 367439 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 01:22 PM

I hear that Roger!

 

 COMMENT 367444 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 01:35 PM

We get English-speaking callers who are seeking Spanish-speaking neighbors, but when they are directed four doors down, they still knock on every door in between.

And van loads of Jehovah Witlesses work the neighborhood.

 

 COMMENT 367453P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 02:05 PM

yep, answer the door naked. I know someone who did that and it definitely worked.

 

 COMMENT 367456P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 02:08 PM

The "no soliciting" sign does not work at our house. We still get JWs on a regular basis. The last time I answered the door, one of them asked me while pointing to our sign, "does this apply to JWs?".... YES!!! You are the only reason I got it!

 

 COMMENT 367460 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 02:26 PM

They're gonna work you like a pump-handle until you tell them that you're a Muslim, or a Buddhist or a Shaolin Monk or a Chester. Warning! - do not engage or get into a discussion, they will come back again thinking there's a chance to convert you.

 

 COMMENT 367490 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 04:05 PM

Wow you must really need saving

 

 COMMENT 367506 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 04:48 PM

They do not expect to convert anyone. They believe that they are commissioned by Christ to TRY to contact every one in the world and provide the OPPORTUNITY to open a discussion about the the message in the bible. For them, it is the effort that they put forth that counts, not the results. They merely want to provide you with the opportunity to access what they believe is the "TRUTH" of the bible. And it's true that they keep track of who they've contacted and the neighborhoods they've covered. But there's nothing personal about it. Sometimes the "DO NOT CALL" notes don't make it to the "territory" maps that they check out. And before you knock the Witnesses, when Katrina happened, the Witnesses emergency assistance for their members was so effective that the Government and state response agencies pointed all relief efforts towards the Witnesses relief organization because of how well they were organized and how effective they were.
They're hearts are in the right place.

 

 COMMENT 367527P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 06:19 PM

@490. Your comment made me howl with laughter. Short and sweet and so perceptive.

 

 COMMENT 367528 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 06:19 PM

Witnesses are decent people but their beliefs are too way out for me. Saying this though I do not think this makes them an exception from many other religions with their equally illogical beliefs.

 

 COMMENT 367532 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 06:40 PM

In my experience witnesses are kind and very nice people. I don't mind them because you know what, we live in a world with many religions and different types of people. I am secure enough in my own beliefs. When I travel I enjoy the different customs and cultures our world has to offer. It is the variety of people that make this one dynamic and beautiful world. This is no different in my own front yard. If they are not causing any harm, then why fuss about it? Maybe you can even take the opportunity to connect with another friendly person.

 

 COMMENT 367541 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 07:18 PM

@532 I agree completely!

 

 COMMENT 367581P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-25 10:58 PM

532 very nicely said. So many people are flippant about others' beliefs. I am agnostic but have enjoyed talking with the two JW who have come by my home. We had an open discussion about the human impetus to faith, and the different paths people find. They are polite, respectful and intelligent. I don't feel like making a flippant or disrespectful comment about them and they feel the same way about me even though I do not share their path.

 

 COMMENT 367592P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 01:51 AM

In 1984, my husband and I were making an extensive tour of the Australian continent. We were in a fully equipped Toyota Landcruiser and covered as much territory, as slowly as we could, in the 11 months we were there. It was the trip of a lifetime.

While driving along the southwest coast, we ended up in a very lonely National Park area. We had come in "the back way," approaching from the east. In search of the ranger station, we drove six hours over the red dirt, corrugated road. Bump, bump, bump. The red ridges seemed to go on forever and ever.

Eventually, we found the gate to the ranger's house. On the gate there was a small sign. It read: "No Jehovah's Witnesses." I still laugh, every time I think of that sign.

 

 COMMENT 367599P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 07:06 AM

Here's what I say, nicely when they call, which they do every so often, wearing the thin black ties, neat white shirts:
"Do you know the 12 least spoken words in the English language?"
"You must be the Jehovas Witnesses, I ve waited all day for you."

 

 COMMENT 367600 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 07:08 AM

Unfortunately I have a couple of family members who are JW's and I have had to put with their crazy beliefs for almost 50 years. They are a manipulative group of people.

If they do come to your door, ask them to take you off of their territorial map. Do not get into a conversation with them either and tell them to peddle their pornography elsewhere. Also do not accept any literature. That will be a shoe-in for them.

JW's only take up 1% of the world population and are annoying as nat's flying around your face. They feed on the weak and they are destructive to your well being.

According to a New York Times article, they are the second least educated group in the nation. They do not promote education. They appear as nice people but if you think about it, must cults appear as friendly folks.

Buyer beware as the saying goes.

 

 COMMENT 367604 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 07:18 AM

JW's are a cult. They are similar to Scientology in that the church 'Elders' will force members to have no contact with non members of their own family. I knew a family in the 80's where the teenage daughter was ex-communicated and the church told her little brother he was no longer allowed to talk to her. Complete insanity.

 

 COMMENT 367611 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 07:38 AM

Wow! This has turned into a Jehovahs Witness bashing thread! What ever happened to the "comments policy"?? Shame on Edhat

 

 COMMENT 367622 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 08:06 AM

302 is right on the money. They are likely casing your apartment and may not be what they appear to be. There has been a rash of burglaries in Santa Barbara and I suggest you call the SBPD and file a report. If they come back again, try to see if you can get a vehicle description. Tell them you have filed a complaint with the SBPD about their visits to your apartment. Good luck.

 

 COMMENT 367631 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 08:20 AM

604.... just about all christian sects have their form of ex-communication. Religion is about group conformity, if you stray you pay.

 

 COMMENT 367655 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 09:01 AM

Maybe they already visited the neighbors three or four times and knew them already. The last time that happened to me I just began speaking Russian, held my palms up while shaking my head and smiling as if I didn't understand a word they were saying. One other time I used Japanese. That worked both times!

 

 COMMENT 367663P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 09:16 AM

Great to be multilingual. I tried something like that, speaking gibberish, but they thought I was "speaking in tongues" and just redoubled their efforts.

As far as bashing goes, I think that in general there's a point to be made there, but when you're talking about a group that comes calling without an invitation and can be annoying, to say the least, it may fall into a different sort of category.

 

 COMMENT 367666P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 09:23 AM

From my experience, you may have been referred by a neighbor who's a member .

 

 COMMENT 367682 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 09:51 AM

I like the JWs better than CalPirg and other groups. They don't come at dinner time and they don't ask for money.

 

 COMMENT 367705 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 10:50 AM

I'm not sure of their particular stance on the subject, but when any religious groups come to my door, I hand them evolution pamphlets.

 

 COMMENT 367708 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 10:56 AM

If you come to the door naked, they won't return

 

 COMMENT 367715P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 11:31 AM

The JW's I've talked to in SB are intelligent, respectful, non-confrontational, rational people. It's a pleasure to encounter honesty and people who Walk their Talk, regardless of my agreement with their beliefs, in contrast to the constant hypocrisy and political double-talk and propaganda that inundates us. I'd much rather deal with honest people I disagree with than with manipulative ones whose beliefs may be more similar to mine.

 

 COMMENT 367718 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 11:36 AM

This gives a positive endorsement to the idea that we can eliminate the U.S. Postal Service .... and have the Jehovas Witnesses deliver the mail.

 

 COMMENT 367728 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 11:58 AM

I had an interesting experience with this sort of thing many years ago. I checked into a motel around 11 am, went in to take a nap, and was awakened a couple of hours later by a knock on my door. It was Mormon missionaries--at a motel room! Obviously the front desk tipped them off or else they were staking the place out. Of course this was in Salt Lake City--the competition must be fierce :)

 

 COMMENT 367730P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 12:09 PM

663 Yeah! speaking in tongues! So funny.

 

 COMMENT 367731P agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 12:10 PM

agree with 367715. The JW's that come to my door are polite. I take there magazine, thank them and recycle. While I do not share their beliefs I respect their belief that they are called to do approach people. As long as they are respectful and not pushy, I have no problem.

 

 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 03:14 PM

Reminds me of the time I was walking home from work and had my new monthly issue of Easyriders magazine..Scared of motorcycles but loved the magazine read it every month for years..Anyway this JW Chickie comes up to me opening one of their magazines and says "You look like you need one of these." I grabbed my Easyriders magazine flipped it open to the centerfold and said "You look like you need one of there!" Will that Gal dropped her little stack of Awakes and ran off down the street screaming...One of my better SB Memories..

 

 COMMENT 367821 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-26 04:41 PM

Oh Roger, please. That is not true and you know it. Now you're just making up stories!

 

 COMMENT 368053 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-27 12:42 PM

I grew up as a Jehovah’s Witness (x20 yrs) and I’ll give my perspective. Returning to your apartment 3x was probably a mistake. It might have been recorded down incorrectly and passed on/misread by the next person. They are not casing the neighborhood or your home in particular; if they are standing around, they are likely regrouping or shooting the breeze. It's not a cult. I left and still have a close relationship with my family who are all JW. When I see them or other Witnesses, I don't feel pressured or ostracized by them in any way. I have a doctorate degree and know of many with similar levels of education or running successful businesses. Although it was not the right fit for me, I think they are generally kind, honest and doing what they feel is their mission. I respect them for trying to make society a better place. Consider this: How you respond to them or others is a reflection on your character, not theirs.

 

 COMMENT 368197 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-28 08:36 AM

Jehovah's Witnesses bosses pulled a scam in the US hurricane Katrina they rebuilt a few homes with their volunteer labor force and the Watchtower 'took' the insurance money as a 'contribution.

Jehovah's Witnesses shill and practice deception from the get-go.

There core dogma is that Jesus had his second coming october 1914.
-Danny Haszard

 

 COMMENT 368202 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-28 08:50 AM

Run for your lives its the Witnesses!!!!

 

 COMMENT 368207 agree helpful negative off topic

2013-01-28 09:15 AM

That's pretty creepy, OP. We get them from time to time very early on Sunday mornings (well, I consider 8 a.m. early to be coming around to someone's house on a Sunday, anyway....)

I think it's a huge invasion of privacy to come to my home and try to sell me on a religion and so I'm never happy about it. I either don't answer the door or politely tell them I'm be happy if they'd leave and take me off their list of houses to visit. That works in the short term, maybe for a few months. But then they're back again,

That said, none of them have ever known my NAME. Or at least they don't say my name. I'm curious how they'd know yours. Just when I though they couldn't get more annoying!

 

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