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Calle Puerta Vallarta Parking
updated: Dec 10, 2012, 5:16 PM

By Edhat Subscriber

On this Sunday, I drove to our zoo to visit the Snow Leopards, and being told the parking lot was full, drove down Calle PuertaVallarta and found a place ahead of other parked cars next to the fence, bordering the RR tracks. The time was 9:30am. Before locking and leaving, I looked carefully for any prohibiting parking and found none. I returned to my car at 12:30pm and saw that the fence was topped with carefully placed yellow wooden no parking signs next to each parked car with tickets under their wipers. My ticket is for $53.00 section 10.44.020mc No Parking Sign. The ticket was given at 10:32am. The officer, Nelson, badge number 2386 must have worked in tandem with the sign department to work the scam. The only way to defend myself was to have taken a photo of my car and fence, before and after, but who would have thunk!

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 COMMENT 352495 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 05:36 PM

Well, you can contest the ticket. I agree that's unfair, though. Next time, I'd write notes to everyone else who got a ticket & tuck it under the ticket and include your info so they can contact you if they all want to get together to contest it. I think that'd end up with a better solution - a dozen or so people all show up saying "look we all got ticketed, but there was no signage saying we couldn't park here before we parked, it was put up after". Just something to consider for the next guy this happens to. Because it seems to crop up on edhat on occasion, maybe next time someone can really stand up & make a show of this so it won't continue happening.


 COMMENT 352499 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 05:47 PM

CVC 22651 states there is a 24 hour requirement prior to enforcement. Unfortunately, you have to prove it. I'm one of those people who will spend $1000 to fight a wrongful $50 ticket. I hope you do the same and win. Too many people just roll over and pay because fighting it is too inconvenient.


 COMMENT 352523 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 06:42 PM

So you parked along the chain link fence which has a visibly striped shoulder marker, with a shoulder of maybe 3 feet wide, and felt like this was not a problem? Did you mean to say you parked your motorcycle there? Otherwise, a car would have been obviously sticking out into through traffic and you should have realized this wasn't acceptable, regardless of there being any signs.


 COMMENT 352541 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 07:11 PM

You can fight it. The city will have records as to the placement of those signs.

I had a friend that parked in the same spot on E. De La Guerra for years, and one day, after he parked, they came and painted the curb RED right where his car was parked!

Then, couple hours later, the meter maid came around and ticketed his car for parking in the red!!! He easily got the ticket dismissed. But, it was still a hassle.


 COMMENT 352594P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 11:59 PM

It's not that difficult to contest a parking ticket. You just go to the Police Station on E. Figueroa and tell the nice lady there your tale of woe.

She will dismiss the ticket.


 COMMENT 352595P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 12:13 AM

I avoid doing business in Santa Barbara because of parking ticket scams.


 COMMENT 352642 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 07:14 AM

Sorry, there is a poor, but permanent, sign there. There was a sign with an arrow pointing to the left that said no parking. It is across from the park parking lot, or so. I assume that there is an "end no parking" sign somewhere near where the sidewalk picks up. The problem was that there was a giant suv parked next to the sign that made it difficult to spot.

I parked nearby and walked past, so I had a good view. I agree that it is lame! those wooden signs should have been up by 9 and zoo personel should have done a better job directing us when the parking lot filled.


 COMMENT 352670 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 07:50 AM

Frank Hotchkiss will fix the ticket for you. Just send him an email and say the POA sent you.


 COMMENT 352676P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 07:59 AM

Check out the google maps, OP is very much in the wrong. Although it is pretty shady that more signs were added after you parked there, fact is there WAS one sign there already - and that's all that's needed. Furthermore, agreeing with what 523 said, why would you EVER think that was an okay place to park??? There's no way you weren't completely blocking the bike lane, and possibly encroaching into the traffic lane. Pretty irresponsible. You should own up and pay the ticket, because you are wrong OP. You drove AND walked by the sign, honestly how can you think you are right in this situation? Set a good example for your children and admit you made a judgment mistake.



 COMMENT 352678P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 08:04 AM

Oh, and I guarantee you the municipal code they gave you a ticket for referred to the permanent parking sign I posted above. Transportation engineers do not post those wooden signs, I doubt they meet regulations.

10.44.020 Prohibited - Signs to be Posted by Transportation Engineer.
The Transportation Engineer shall appropriately sign or mark any place where he determines that it is necessary in order to eliminate dangerous traffic hazards; and, when so signed or marked, no person shall stop, stand or park a vehicle in any of said places.


 COMMENT 352679 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 08:06 AM

This area has "always" been a no parking zone. It could be more clearly marked, but the required signage is in place. You can go try to fight it but will lose. Depends on how much your time is worth..


 COMMENT 352726 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 09:07 AM

The poster and readers here need to realize the vast majority of parking tickets issued by the police these days are for no other purpose than to raise money. That wasn't always the case but that is what it has evolved into. That is because the "fines" have become very excessive, the procedure to contest parking tickets made intentionaly difficult and time consuming and one rarely gets sympathy from others who immediately conclude the parker was doing "something illegal" and therefore deserved the astronomical fine imposed. This is a form of "sin tax" supported by the pro law enforcement zealots, that is, until they get one themselves for otherwise totally harmless or trivial "illegal" activity.


 COMMENT 352769P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 10:20 AM

Interesting POV 726, but I must vehemently disagree when it comes to no parking zones. No parking zones are there almost 100% for safety reasons - it's not a sin tax at all. It's something no one should do, ever, for the safety of others around them. I can see what you mean though when it comes to timed parking zones.


 COMMENT 352800 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 11:35 AM

This stretch of road is and has always been a WELL MARKED tow away zone.

The OP should be thanking his lucky stars that he only got a ticket.


 COMMENT 352999 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 04:43 PM

I also went to the zoo on Sunday at 9AM and parked on Calle Puerta Vallarta along the chain link fence. Left around 11AM and did not get a ticket. I did see the police officers as I left. My tires were hanging over the shoulder line, but there were other vehicles that were probably too large to park along the fence and sticking much further out into the roadway causing an obstacle for traffic. I also saw no parking signs at a few sections of the fence near utility boxes. Just describing what I saw. No assumptions made against the original poster.


 COMMENT 353006P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 04:55 PM

RE: Santa Barbara Parking Tickets

While it's a hassle to contest one, if you feel it was improperly issued, isn't it a Good Citizen Duty to contest what he feels is improper action by his State?

Personal experience tells me the SBPD Parking Enforcement people are all human and are humanly subject to human error and also possibly need education on specifics in law as well as Kindness and Sympathy and Humanitarian Consideration.

["Do unto others... be kind... love one another."]


Example: Ask a mature lady at the SBPD Office (not Parking, Office) Window a week ago, and be very emphatically told that NO PART of a parked vehicle could overhang any part of a Red Zone. "Not a fraction of an inch." [Comment: "Do not practice law without a license."]

However, if you Google around and research the matter, California law is not clear on the point. Two uniformed officers have said otherwise. I.E.: Have said that a vehicle parked so that a bumper or other overhanging portion went into the area outside the Red Curb was "A Judgement Call" by the issuer of the Citation.

Legal research will indicate that the officers are correct and that the lady at the SBPD Information Window emphatically volunteered her belief rather than correct information.


Thus SBPD people contradict one another. Contesting "The System" is time-expensive. One personal ticket, still unresolved, has so far has involved two trips to the SBPD, filling out and filing the Request for Dismissal form and preparing my own case file file including the Parking in a Red Zone $58.00 Citation and a copy of the Request for Dismissal Form and now shooting a week of photos of other vehicles parking in the same spot with the majority all overhanging the same red-painted curb a bit.

I filled out the SBPD's Form called... [ more ]


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