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updated: Dec 10, 2012, 9:53 AM

Santa Barbara's permitted medical marijuana dispensaries have closed up shop, all within a few months of federal drug raids.

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 COMMENT 352197P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 10:17 AM

Two words, Black Market.


 COMMENT 352201 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 10:21 AM

So stupid.

I hope the people with real medical needs have people they can buy from. It's time to legalize it completely.


 COMMENT 352203 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 10:22 AM

One word, delivery. Now we don't even have to leave our houses and they come to us, even within a few feet of schools. Who's laughing now...


 COMMENT 352209 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 10:29 AM

Obama is to the right of Richard Nixon on almost every policy. Nixon may have started the war on drugs, but Obama continues to escalate it despite all logic and reason.

We are long overdue for a progressive alternative to the conservative Democrats and the Taliban Republicans.


 COMMENT 352231P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 10:59 AM

Fret not, 201, the feds' efforts are futile. Delivery services are now **rampant** in the City of Santa Barbara, and I mean that - a new service opens every couple of weeks.


 COMMENT 352250 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 11:24 AM

Not that this post has anything to do with his livestyle per se, but the other post I was reading today would not be appropriate to pose the question; has anyone seen Rodger today?


 COMMENT 352288 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 12:15 PM

So glad to hear of the delivery services! That's even more convenient to those with medical issues.


 COMMENT 352290 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 12:18 PM

Cant wait to see what happens in Washington and Colorado now.


 COMMENT 352299 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 12:25 PM

The war on drugs is a total failure worse than the Vietnam war. The evidence of its total failure is the fact is you can get drugs in prison. Prison is supposed to be 100% under control environment. Now if we cant even keep drugs out of prisons how are we going to abolish them in the general public? Time for a long overdue change folks.


 COMMENT 352340 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 01:40 PM

I'm an adult artist who has used in moderation for decades. As I've aged, the medicinal qualities of pot have become as relevant as its creativity enhancing properties. With the paperwork in hand from two doctors, I got my medical marijuana card. I liked being able to walk into a dispensary to purchase pot instead of meeting a stranger or "friend of a friend" in a dark parking lot. The dispensaries are now closed. I'm using delivery service. They did not check my paperwork like the dispensary did. And I meet the guy in a parking lot. It's basically the black market again. I'm not sure why Obama's enforcers care if I toke up before I sit down at the piano to compose. But I can see why they don't want children to access weed. It seems like their steps to close dispensaries are a step backwards in controlling who has easy access.


 COMMENT 352364 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 02:14 PM

Here it is in a nutshell:

When something is illegal, it is way EASIER for kids to get a hold of.

When I was in high school, it was easy (and still is) to buy pot from someone. On the other hand, trying to get a six pack of beer required a lot more effort and risk of getting caught (using a fake ID or asking the wrong person to buy it for you).

So, if the concern is access by kids then legalize it and sell it through a regulated storefront facility requiring proof of age.



 COMMENT 352370P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 02:17 PM

raiding dispensaries is much easier and far more lucrative than real police work (fighting white collar corruption and apprehending violent criminals).


 COMMENT 352387 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 02:42 PM

I love the argument about black market, kids access being easier when it's illegal, as though this is all going to clear up with legalization. Booze is illegal for kids - they still binge drink and od. While the dispensaries were open, the black market did just fine. quasi-legalization did not drive price down, nor did it do away with the black market, nor did it reduce child access to illegal products. It increased them, actually, as dispensary products wound up in schools. And California's quasi-legalization climate seems to have boosted smuggling ops like panga boats. Nope, legalization will do nothing to eliminate those problems. Try another argument.


 COMMENT 352391P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 02:47 PM

hey 387, how bout the fact that it's mala in se for the government to selectively regulate substances based on the desires of corporate lobbyists to maintain the bottom line in the pharma-industrial and prison-industrial complexes. any attempt to validate the illegality of pot invalidates the legality of hamburgers, beers and cigarettes.


 COMMENT 352394 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 02:53 PM

The States created the Federal Government so that the States can be bullied by the Fed... Huh. Time for Jerry Brown to get a backbone. Keep the borders open and let the good folk "roll." Huh? It's incredibly insane the hypocrisy of law enforcement. Black markets are the answer. Plus it keeps the insane employed.


 COMMENT 352397 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 02:56 PM

Last year I flew coach from SFO to Washington with Tim Geitner in the seat in front of me--yes he flew coach. As we were getting off, I thanked him for his service to the country but told him to warn the head of the justice department, Eric Holder, to keep his federal hands off our California medical pot. He smiled.


 COMMENT 352403P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 02:58 PM

387, the point went right over your head. Dispensaries existing does not equate to legalization, albeit it is a step. Your argument about the black market doing just fine when dispensaries were open simply isn't a valid, logical rebuttal. What I believe 364 was trying to get across is that when a substance is illegal, not only is it easy to attain, it is easy for children to attain as well via following adults lead of buying from dealers. However, when you throw legalization into the mix, children can no longer follow the steps adults do to obtain the stubstance, because they are intrinsicly different steps. The "adult steps" are easy peasy, but the "child steps" are complicated. Like alcohol - easy for adults to obtain, not easy for children, because they can't go the same route as adults. Right now, marijuana - illegal, but easy for adults to attain, easy for children to obtain.


 COMMENT 352460 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 04:22 PM

Wonder what Heather Poet's brother is going to do now. Weed is his raison d'ĂȘtre.


 COMMENT 352512 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 06:22 PM

Oh great. I feel so safe now.


 COMMENT 352524 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-10 06:43 PM

Lets make it legal so everyone one will talk slow and retarded. Ya man far out. What.... i hit your car man...ohh man im sorrry dude.


 COMMENT 352734 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 09:17 AM

I completely appreciate the medical value of marijuana, but why not dispense it through regular pharmacies like any other prescription drug. When the web page of sketchy dispensaries like the Miramar Marijuana Co-Operative, which was busted a couple years ago, have testimonials like "Righteous bud, dude!!!", one might think something is amiss.

Until, the state and federal laws on marijuana are brought in to sync, no one is truly exempt from legal trouble....


 COMMENT 352739 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 09:23 AM

The government shouldn't tell people what they put in their body, period. Prohibition never works, as we've already seen with alcohol in the 20's. All it accomplishes is driving a desired product into the black market, fueling profits for gangs and the mob/mafia and increasing incarceration rates and violence. Legalization would drive the cost of the products down, make the product safer, and give consumers a legal avenue for dispute resolution. I'm not sure why kids are always brought into the formula, but I'm under the impression it would be harder to obtain in a legal environment than in a black market environment. However, I would put the onus of responsibility here on the parents and not on government laws if you want to keep drugs out of kids hands.


 COMMENT 352741P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 09:28 AM

There isn't a single reason to have laws that imprison people for cannabis.


 COMMENT 353076 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 08:05 PM

Just the fact that its illegal and the fact that you can get a dwi and kill someone when you think its just a little weed... Cannabis makes you slow and dumb. People can see how slow you are, you are not fooling anyone.


 COMMENT 353121P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-11 10:55 PM

get over it already. if you don't like it don't use it. being tired has been proven to be just as inhibiting as alcohol when it comes to driving. should we outlaw fatigue as well? how would you feel if you were prohibited from going to church because there's a correlation between catholicism and child molestation? find a better ax to grind already you trolls.


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