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updated: Dec 05, 2012, 8:15 PM

The dilapidated buildings on the Miramar property in Montecito are coming down on Monday and the clean up should wrap up by the end of January.

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 FIRST DISTRICT agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-05 11:52 PM

I wish I could say that any of this info has a positive side. Most of us haven't a clue as to what will eventually happen.
All we can do is wait and see and hope for a miracle and hold dear our Miramar memories. . .


 COMMENT 350774 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 07:27 AM

This is so positive. The Miramar is a victim of over priced real estate and should be allowed to die a dignified death rather than being a sulking ruin. I look forward to open land and views. No special tax breaks for Carusso.


 COMMENT 350784 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 07:55 AM

Open land and views? Get ready to see those same fences.


 STRAY agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 07:58 AM

Vacant land soon fronting the ocean? A lovely beach has decaying shacks removed?
The developer continues to pay property taxes.
No additional vehicular traffic.
After ten years of decay, this is a positive outcome for the public and the neighbors.

Mr. Caruso can take all the time in the world to develop or sell his property, formerly known as the Miramar Hotel. And he probably will.....take his time.


 COMMENT 350787 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 07:58 AM

Hmmm... He might leave the big pile of demolition detritus sitting there without removing it as a bargaining chip for the TOT break he seeks.


 FLICKA agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 09:29 AM

The ambience of the Miramar Hotel was ruined when the 2 story (ugly) buildings were built in the 1960s. It became a glorified Motel 6. The beach view will especially benefit when the boardwalk "2 stories" are gone. I grew up next to the hotel; little cottages on the boardwalk and around the pool, with lawns and flowers, made the place lovely. Glad it will finally be cleaned up. Who cares if anything is ever built there?


 COMMENT 350844 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 09:40 AM

Same people who would *love* if prime oceanfront property were "left vacant" forever would be the same ones shedding tears and rending hair if their homes were destroyed and if (for whatever reason) they had to jump through difficult hoops to rebuild.

I can't wait until something is rebuilt and irks the living daylights out of the typical nimby neighbors. Imagine: replacing a hotel with a hotel! Outrageous!


 COMMENT 350868P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 10:10 AM

The property will be protected against those seeking free use of it. You're not going to see any "easement rights" arguments with this property. Let's see the same angst against the other property owners who are already blocking "the beautiful ocean view". Maybe you could go to indiegogo and pool your funds to buy it from Mr. Caruso. On the upside, I appreciate the reminder of why I skip reading comments from some handles.


 COMMENT 350871 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 10:17 AM

No taxbreaks for wealthy Caruso. If it is not financially feasable to build a new hotel so be it. If the numbers do not pan out then he made financial mistake and paid too much. He can sell at a price that reflects the real market value and take his loss.


 COMMENT 350882 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 10:40 AM

871 - Sometimes it is not so easy for these big-wig moguls to swallow and take a loss.

Human nature being what it is, two words often get in the way of good judgment.

And, those two words are: HUBRIS and EGO.


 COMMENT 350894P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 10:59 AM

I know! All that ego that just has this character making such decisions. He probably has zero business sense and suffers from a lack of a degree of any kind. Heavens to mergatroid, I sure hope he takes it in the shorts. I have no idea why, exactly. It just sounds great and I like it if people agree with me.


 COMMENT 350907P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 11:51 AM

Now that Caruso has his "entitlementS" he has what he has wanted all along- a more valuable property to FLIP.
Anyone who thinks he EVER intended to build this ridiculously ostentatious luxury hotel, between the RR tracks and freeway, is kidding themselves.


 COMMENT 350915P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 12:05 PM

Entitlements are not taken away. Tax breaks for those investing big dollars to build a business are retracted all the time. But, you're already aware of that.


 COMMENT 350923 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 12:24 PM

From the linked story: ""We're excited now that demolition has begun. Short term noise but we hope that long term this will continue to be a real good property and contributor to our neighborhood as well as our whole community," said Sheri Benninghoven. "

English much? That really hurt my brain.


 FIRST DISTRICT agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 01:21 PM

The quote hurt my brain, too. Two points stand out:

It's All Saints by-the-Sea, not All Saints-by-the-Sea.
And that entitity has not even put a T O E in the water during this entire so-called controversy so I find it strange that someone on staff is all of a sudden weighing in.

Again. . . most lay people haven't a clue as to what is down the road on all of this.


 COMMENT 351078 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-12-06 05:05 PM

A lovely contrast with Michael Towbes. Towbes has made a career out of being nice to local politicians and the community in general. As a result he can pretty much write his own ticket for local developments.


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