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Thrift Store Photo
updated: Oct 09, 2012, 1:05 PM

By Edhat Subscriber

I found this at a thrift store here in town about a year ago. Anybody want to help put a date on it?

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COMMENT 329656	2012-10-09 01:15 PM
Probably 1980's. If it is a Park Serivce map, there will be a copyright date on it.
COMMENT 329658	2012-10-09 01:23 PM
The condos at the end of Baranca are not there. My guess is 1960's. Can't see if the Borein Adobe is there under all the trees.
COMMENT 329659	2012-10-09 01:25 PM
SBCC's West campus doesn't appear to be built yet in this picture, except maybe one building up near the top of the empty-looking property. Some googling uncovers that the Drama building (west campus) was built in 1977. MacDougal became CC's president in 1981, shortly after which the rest of the West campus buildings were built - these are definitely not built in this photo. So, either late 70s or 80s, depending on whether you think that white blob is a building.
COMMENT 329660	2012-10-09 01:26 PM
Was this in color,with snow on the mountains? It might be the Haagen/Pacific Western photo. Famous.
COMMENT 329661	2012-10-09 01:27 PM
There was a program on 102.3FM yesterday with Ken Jennings (Jeopardy) talking about maps and the love of maps. It was really interesting! That's a great thrift store find too!
COMMENT 329667	2012-10-09 01:32 PM
I love maps! That, however, is a photo.
COMMENT 329671	2012-10-09 01:42 PM
It says Parks Reality, not Parks services. Mark Hurd was the photographer. The picture measures about 40 x 16 inches. I am thinking about scanning it, and getting the magnified glass out.........
COMMENT 329672	2012-10-09 01:46 PM
SBCC tells most of the story. West Campus clearly has not been started yet in this photo, but there are many buildings on main campus, which were added in the sixties. Late sixties, early 70's.
KDEF	2012-10-09 02:02 PM
Check with Michael Redmond at the Gledhill Library at the Historical Museum. The Library might have a dated copy of this photo.
MACSCIDOR	2012-10-09 03:08 PM
Ah, Mark Hurd. There is a huge glass case inside the alcove at 1825 State Street with an aerial photo (gray scale) by Mark Hurd (different scene, a more straight-down shot). I noticed it a few years ago and wanted to go back and photograph one section near Highway 154. I could have sworn that the aerial photo that I discovered back then was from the early 1970s. When I finally DID go back two months ago, an aerial with 'date flown' 12 March 1959 was in the case. It is clearly marked with Mark Hurd Aerial Surveys, Inc. (I hope to track down the 70s Hurd-image that I wanted.)
SUSIECHAOS	2012-10-09 03:23 PM
I know the name Mark Hurd Aerial Surveys, too. This company took aerial photos nationwide for the Farm Services Agency, now the USDA, back in the '40s and '50s or thereabouts. I work on a project using these old aerial photos and was surprised to see my hometown name noted on the photo label, since I'm now in Pennsylvania working on Pennsylvania photos! Also, I think there is a similar photo (or was) at the terminal in the old airport, in that little room you waited in to get on your flight after security, that used to have no services. I often wanted to snap a photo of the photo, but time was always too limited.
SUSIECHAOS	2012-10-09 03:27 PM
Macscidor: You may get lucky and be able to order the straight-down photo from the "APFO" website (Aerial Photography Field Office). I've never tried, but I know they are getting rid of their old negatives and will stop taking orders soon. You may want to see if there is a code in the upper right of the photo; if so, it may help you find the photo on this site. You can also try (but I've not had any luck) looking in the National Archives, where I heard the APFO is sending the negatives. Don't know if that's true...
MACSCIDOR	2012-10-09 03:31 PM
Mark Hurd Aerial Surveys information from the Map and Imagery Collections at UCSB's Davidson Library [Google search just now]. "This collection includes large scale and site-specific photography from the mid 1950s to the mid 1970s of the tri-county area of Santa Barbara, Ventura, and San Luis Obispo counties, as well as some coverage of other California counties and areas outside of the state of California. Mark Hurd photography flight ID numbers have the prefix HA, HB, HO, or TA, and the photographs are 9”x 9” and 9”x 18” paper prints. There are no original negatives remaining for any of these photographs, and MIL owns the only archive of this collection. Most of the photographs are in vertical format, but there are some oblique photographs."
COMMENT 329736	2012-10-09 04:31 PM
That photo was probably taken from Mark Hurd's F-5, a photo- reconn. version of a P-38 Lightning that was used for aerial surveys from 1954 to 1965 by Mark Hurd, then sold to Pacific Western Surveys. It was used to map the entire SB county in 1961. It was a common site at our airport into the early '70s and is now at the Tillamook Air Museum.
SBWATCHER	2012-10-09 05:25 PM
The Borein Adobe was torn down and the condos on Barranca were built in late 1972, so the photo had to have been taken before then.
COMMENT 329774	2012-10-09 05:56 PM
I have a color print that measures framed 48Hx56L. I have always wondered who had taken the photo. A friend who moved away gave it to me and now the mystery is solved.
COMMENT 329855P	2012-10-09 11:45 PM
The neighborhood by Shoreline park looks brand new in this photo (at least at this low resolution.) There are no large trees or bushes in the area. Most of those homes were built in the early 1950's. I'd guess this image is from the mid to late 1950's. Could there also be greenhouses on the Wilcox (Douglas Family Preserve) property? Hard to see the detail.
COMMENT 329863	2012-10-10 06:01 AM
No one has mentioned the harbor yet. Just gotta look at the harbor to know it predates the 70's: many inner harbor moorings; very different Marina 1 than exists today or how it was configured in the 70's; Marina 2 is also configured differently; and no Sea Landing. Also, note "the jungle" along the north side of East Cabrillo Blvd. Thanks for the great info SusieChaos and Macscidor.
COMMENT 329888	2012-10-10 08:02 AM
Also notice that Shoreline Drive ends at La Marina, before the barranca was filled in for the road. And Meigs Road doesn't circle around to meet Shoreline. The Park was developed in '67-'68, so my guess is late '60s or very early '70s. This is fun!
COMMENT 329895	2012-10-10 08:15 AM
Wow.... Hope ranch is practically undeveloped and Earl Warren Showgrounds is just a field, as is the area of what is now Upper State. I'd love a scanned copy of this image. Congrats on your Thrift store purchase.
FLICKA	2012-10-10 08:29 AM
Earl Warren showgrounds opened in 1958, must be before that.
COMMENT 329909	2012-10-10 08:41 AM
It looks to be before the freeway was put through SB. And like maybe one vehicle on the road when De La Vina was the main highway? I can't tell from this photo if the county bowl is there yet.
COMMENT 330062	2012-10-10 03:20 PM
The road to TV Hill is graded, but La Coronilla, (top of the mesa) looks as though only the first 2 blocks are developed, and you can see the line of eucalyptus seaward of it that, seen in profile coming into SB from the east, gave it the name "Eyelash Hill." So, about the mid 1950s.
COMMENT 394568	2013-04-07 06:59 PM
Hello. I'm just wondering if the original poster ever got the photo scanned. I'd be willing to contribute to that cost.

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