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SB Bullfight
updated: Sep 29, 2012, 8:51 PM

By Edhat Subscriber

Last weekend, while visiting Carpinteria, I saw this flyer at a local restaurant. I was completely devastated that Earl Warren Show Grounds would allow a Bullfight to be held there. I then read the flyer which states that there is no blood shed, but the photo shows a Bull with bloody picks and a sword. This event is a fundraiser for St. Anthony de Padua Church. I can't imagine that these Bulls are not tortured at some point while in training and are they used for the "Real" bullfights at a later date? This event is to take place next Sunday on Oct. 7th. I am wondering if I am the only one feeling uncomfortable about this taking place in the USA and especially Santa Barbara.

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 COMMENT 326083 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-29 08:56 PM

I feel the same way!

 

 COMMENT 326087P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-29 09:03 PM

This is such a giant step from rodeo's...come on!! When do we say "No Mas" to miss using animals for our sick pleasure.

 

 COMMENT 326116P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-29 11:26 PM

Whose idea was this!?! Where are all the animal activists?!

 

 COMMENT 326130P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 12:43 AM

Rejoicing in the diversity here.....

 

 COMMENT 326131P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 12:47 AM

It is yucky. There are a couple of articles about bloodless bull fighting on the net. The matador "kills" by getting his spear, which has velcro, stuck on to a velcro patch on the bulls back. Still rather icky all together. It needs to be stopped now, before it becomes a regular thing.

 

 COMMENT 326133 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 06:19 AM

I love a good bullfight.... Can't wait.

 

 COMMENT 326147P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 07:12 AM

This sounds like a really bad idea in so many ways. Perpetuating a horrid tradition and then making a mockery of it? Velcro on a bull? The bull has no choice, but what self-respecting bull fighter would participate in such a charade?

 

 COMMENT 326151 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 07:25 AM

When I was a child in Spain we went to the bullfights. Right after, the bulls were butchered and the meat given to the poor. No where near as abusive as the confined animal food industry we have here in the states.
Bullfighting bulls have been bred longer than race horses, for fearlessness and power. When delivered to the ring, they are guaranteed not to have seen a human on foot up close, only on horseback.

 

 COMMENT 326172 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 08:18 AM

@151, where do you think they kept the bulls until the fight? They lived their whole life in a field until the day they were taken to the fight? Uh, no. It's just as cruel as the food industry in the US, just a different type. Basically, a bull is tortured to death for fun and profit. I'm not even a vegetarian, but that's wrong, tradition or not.

 

 COMMENT 326190P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 08:56 AM

I remember attending bloodless bull fights multiple times at the Astrodome back in the 1960s. They were great fun. The "bloodless" only refers to the bull. If you think it was rough on the bulls, think again. The matadors were often gored. Believe me, there was lots of blood but ultimately after a hospital stay the bull fighters recovered. Those that are complaining on Edhat have probably never watched these bull fights.

 

 COMMENT 326199P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 09:08 AM

190p It's still torturing and tormenting an animal for human's entertainment. Isn't there enough violence in the world today? What's the matter with us?

 

 COMMENT 326213P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 09:31 AM

Where do I buy tickets?

 

 COMMENT 326218 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 09:48 AM

@326213P Buy your tickets by calling 805 568-1943 or 805 569-1591

 

 COMMENT 326219 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 09:55 AM

Sick. Like the masochists who take part in that crazy run of the bulls farce.

 

 COMMENT 326232 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 10:16 AM

I wish I could go! Too bad we will be outa town; hope that they do it again! And how can we do a running of the bulls to get to the stadium? Maybe do it in coordination with Fiesta! Make it a more authentic event!

 

 BURNTTHISTLE agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 10:37 AM

This is bloodless Portuguese bullfighting which is legal in California

 

 COMMENT 326262 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 11:03 AM

172- The bulls were pastured and tended by men on horseback. They were not in barns, lived very good natural lives, until their admittedly unpleasant demise. 151

 

 COMMENT 326274 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 11:31 AM

Y'all are a bunch of wussies. If I were a bull, I'd much rather go out at the Earl Warren Arena than marched down anonymously to some death row slaughter house.
Seriously, what do y'all do for fun, anyway?

 

 COMMENT 326316 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 02:14 PM

What are “bloodless” or Portuguese bullfights, and are they legal in the U.S.?

So-called "bloodless" bullfights, legal in many U.S. states, involve teasing and attacking the bull. Although tormenting and abusing the animal is part of the show, killing must be done outside the arena. But just like regular bullfights, bloodless bullfights send the message that animals are nothing more than objects for us to abuse at will. And, there is the Picador's horses that are bought knowing they can be killed by the Bull. Animal cruelty at it's finest.

 

 COMMENT 326320P agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 02:22 PM

I m with you, 274! I remember going to bullfights in Spain with my father, it was fun and exciting...and a little scary and gross. I understand those folks who are anti-bullfighting, it does seem rather barbaric and even cruel. But seriously, folks, that can be said about a lot of things that we do every day, and just don't think about it. especially if you think about what we eat and how it is brought to market. And no, you vegans don't get off the hook either, unless you are a migrant farm worker vegan. There is lots of cruelty to go around in many different forms. It's all a matter of cultural perspective.

 

 ROGER DODGER agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 02:48 PM

I wonder if Barnaby Conrad will be there?

 

 COMMENT 326330 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 02:49 PM

This is a tradition to many Mexican Americans . These are bloodless - the cow is not hurt . It is a safe way for a people to carry on a tradition that is important to their culture. If you go to Los Acres Arabians you can read the true facts on the practice today. Of Christians in Santa Barbara 54 % are Catholic , which many are Mexican Americans. For a bloodless bullfight event to be held in CA. It must be backed by a religious organization ,I believe. It is a beautiful relationship between man and horse. The hornless cow is chased around much like cutting horses and cows. It is not what first comes to your minds. Santa Barbara makes a ton off Fiesta,a celebration of all things Mexican. Let them be,or better yet. Go see before judging and reading Internet false facts.

 

 COMMENT 326345 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 03:38 PM

That's strange because the Camelot Classic Horse Show is next weekend. I would not think that Earl Warren would schedule this event for the same weekend.

 

 COMMENT 326353 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 03:50 PM

Gross.

 

 COMMENT 326357 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 03:56 PM

It is a safe way for shallow minded humans to treat animals like crap. I don't like it, so I don't go. Just like the blithering idiots who attend Calvary church, I don't like it, so I don''t go. But I do not get in thier way, let people do what they may.

 

 EZ2 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-09-30 07:42 PM

let's go to Spain and see real bullfights
Okay I will

 

 COMMENT 326496 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-10-01 09:34 AM

Funny stuff - I was raised around farms in the mid west - I love the comments from the arm chair anti bull fight folks - these bulls are not harmed / it is a vacation for them......

 

 COMMENT 326514 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-10-01 10:03 AM

I am a vegan migrant farmworker and I do not approve of this spectacle.

There, is everybody happy now?

If however, the bulls were left with their horn sharpened so it is a fairer fight, I would be in favor of it.

Support your right to arm bears.

 

 COMMENT 326580 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-10-01 12:01 PM

I always root for the bull at these events. Serves the matadors right.

 

 COMMENT 326601 agree helpful negative off topic

2012-10-01 01:17 PM

330-Old Spanish Days celebrates Spanish traditions. This is a Portugese tradition of bullfighting. Neither of these are Mexican traditions, and no we are not all the same.

 

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