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COMMENT 322138	2012-09-20 10:12 AM
I'd like to introduce a bill to ban pit bull breeding. Someone who MUST have a pit bull has serious issues.
COMMENT 322027	2012-09-20 06:02 AM
It's not just the owners of a dog that need to be responsible. Too many people, especially kids, walk right up to a dog in public and assum that it's ok to pet the dog. The dog gets scared and bites, their only defense. Bottom line, be respectful of the dog, their strength, and their space! I am leary of any dog, even if it's cute little Muffin, they all have very sharp teeth! We humans want the same respect or we get cranky, too!
ROGER DODGER	2012-09-18 05:52 PM
I wonder if Jesus had a Pitt Bull?
COMMENT 321373	2012-09-18 08:13 AM
Pit bull owners are in Denial about the genetic coding to be more agressive than other breeds and the stats prove it.
COMMENT 321209	2012-09-17 06:09 PM
Actually - Pits (all of 'em - don't pull this only an AKC judge can tell them apart) exhibit the abiliity to lock their jaw and have the added behavior of shaking their head when their locked down. For that reason - they are banned more and more around the country.
COMMENT 321158	2012-09-17 04:35 PM
of the approximate 47,520 fatal human attacks recorded over a 3 year period, human types were responsible for 100% of them. This is equivalent to 45 humans killing a U.S. citizen every day.
COMMENT 321129P	2012-09-17 03:14 PM
notice it's mostly "pit bull type" dogs in the reported fatalities, 069. again, very hard for the layperson to discern between what the AKC would recognize as an american pit bull terrier, a pit bull mix or an entirely different breed that physically resembles a pit bull. historically pit bulls were bred as prize family dogs and were selected for their tenacity, loyalty and affinity towards the family (especially children). you only run into problems with the breed when you mix in back yard breeding, mastiff and bulldog genes, irresponsible owners, etc. saying all pit bulls are bad is no different than fox news calling the most conservative DNC president in modern history a communist. it's just mindless spouting of misinformation to make ones self feel better about the fact that their opinion is not congruent with reality. 869, you should see how many americans die every 21 days of heat exposure, or perhaps infection as a result of complications from routine medical procedures. to be afraid of a dog breed based on the overwhelmingly low chances of suffering a bite, let alone a fatal attack is illogical.
COMMENT 321209	2012-09-17 12:32 PM
Of the 88 fatal dog attacks recorded over a 3 year period, pit bull type dogs were responsible for 59%. This is equivalent to a pit bull killing a U.S. citizen every 21 days during this 3-year period. How many times do we here about fatal dog attacks by small dogs that just aren't reported? I'd say probably never. Pit Bulls only make up about 5% off all breeds of dogs in the US - so citingg they are the most popular breed doesn't serve a purpose.
COMMENT 321158	2012-09-17 11:56 AM
I have 2 Pits and yes, if I or anyone I love is threatened I will do anything to protect my family. They love people and are some of the most loyal and loving babies.
COMMENT 321076P	2012-09-17 11:51 AM
When it comes to statistics, what matters is the rate of bites not the aggregate number. The rate factors in the popularity of the breed. 10 bites in a population of 100 dogs of Breed1 is a rate of 10%. This is the same as 100 bites in 1000 dogs of Breed2, also 10%. At first glance, it would seem that Breed2 is more aggressive than Breed1. This would be incorrect. Given the popularity of pit bulls, it's not surprising to see more bites. This says nothing about their proclivity for biting, however. The main problem at the dog parks is the irresponsible owner who has not properly trained or socialized their dog, or who is too busy talking on the phone or visiting with other people to supervise their pet. There are many dog obedience classes in town. They are worth the time and money. Dogs take much more time and effort than cats. I don't think people realize this when they decide to become dog owners.
COMMENT 321073P	2012-09-17 11:45 AM
#054 Wow you must know everything about Pits. Our dog is indeed sweet. You apparently do not know her. I have owned many breeds of dogs all that have been throughly trained. We as dog owners took the time to educate not just ourselves but our children as well on how to treat a dog. I am weary of all dogs I do not know because I'm not certain of their training. As for the statistics posted on here- No way those numbers are accurate. How many times do people get bitten by a smaller dog and just do not report it. My dog has been bite by 2 dogs and myself twice but I never reported it. I guess I will in the future to help those biased numbers. @897 instincts kick in a certain age. What a load of whooy!! Our girl is 6 now and still a very SWEET Pittbull:)
COMMENT 321054	2012-09-17 10:42 AM
Reading the posts, I keep seeing "sweet" and "pit bull" used in the same sentence. It reminds me of a few great oxymora such as "jumbo shrimp", "airline food", "terribly pleased", "legally drunk" and "almost exactly".
COMMENT 321053	2012-09-17 10:41 AM
Many good comments. 321043P, I especially like your comment. While there will be individual dogs of any breed that will growl, fight, and bite, that is not a reason to condemn a breed. It is the owner not the dog. It is the owner's responsibility to raise a properly trained dog.
COMMENT 321209	2012-09-17 10:38 AM
Actually - Pits are more likely to bite (not just necessarily fatal bites). Gotta love this comedian that comes out everytime there is a pit bull post and starts blaming problems on Golden Retrievers.That is just funny.
COMMENT 321049	2012-09-17 10:37 AM
I don't understand this town's love affair with dogs. They cost money, crap everywhere and leave hair all over the house. oh, and cause about as much strife on edhat as a thread about religion...
COMMENT 321129P	2012-09-17 10:23 AM
gotta love the pitbull hate threads on edhat. to the person spouting statistics from longitudinal studies on fatal dog bites, have you considered how statistically insignificant those numbers are? second hand smoke from cigarettes kill 54,000 each year, that's a thousand times as many people as pit bulls do in 10 years? great to know, thanks for sharing. if you look at overall reported dog bite stats, you'll be happy to know golden retrievers bite more people than any other dog breed. our prison system is predominately filled with black and latino men, does that mean they're inherently criminals? guarantee you haters couldn't pick out the pitbull in a lineup of two dozen similar dogs. ever heard of a dogo argentino or presa canario? people see the short hair, muscular build, wide flat head and automatically assume it's a pitbull. feeble minded sheeple!
FLICKA	2012-09-17 09:03 AM
777,I have seen Irish Wolfhounds in Carpinteria. Do you live here, are they yours? How would you know you're the only one in the area with them? As far as dogs having bred-in traits, they do. We have had Austrailan Shepherds, they are hearders and didn't really play with other dogs, they hearded them. My friend said hers would heard the cats around the yard. I've had Labs (retrievers) all they really want to do is retreive balls or sticks. Hunting dogs, pointers especially, point. Many breeds have been carefully bred with certain traits to do a job.
COMMENT 321000P	2012-09-17 08:54 AM
816P, I have a friend with a pit just like yours, the sweetest dog ever, extremely tolerant of my daughter's extravagant gestures of affection, lies on the sofa with her under a blanket to watch movies. My friend adopted her as a rescued puppy; she'd never been trained to fight so that "instinct" has not been nurtured. She is friendly with other dogs, but that is due to lots of serious training by my friend, who almost gave her up when she realized what she was in for in the training line. But her love for the dog kept her at it, and the results have been wonderful for both of them. My friend knows that maintaining her alpha status is an ongoing process, but it clearly makes the dog happy as well as everyone else so there's the reward. She does not take her to off leash dog parks because she can't anticipate the behavior of other dogs who might frighten hers. When we take her for walks, some people practically cross the road to get away, while others go out of their way to say hi and encourage her for rescuing a pit bull.
LUCKY 777	2012-09-17 08:35 AM
I'll say I'd be shocked if in fact two WolfHounds were running wild in the streets of Carpinteria...............as far as I know I'm the only person in the area with two Irish WolfHounds, and at 145 pounds apiece they are not a dog you can hide easily! And they are NOT a dog that has anything to prove, they know they are the King of Dogs.
COMMENT 320981	2012-09-17 08:12 AM
I have 3 pit mixes rescued from the shelter. By rescuing them I probably saved 2 from being euthanized as they weren't tolerating the shelter well. Before I got my first, I hated pits and thought people were irresponsible for having them. Now I think they can be good pets but take more work and responsibility than the average dog. For one, they have the instinct to be aggressive toward other dogs so to counteract that, if the mix part doesn't remove it entirely, you have to socialize them with other dogs as much as possible. You also have to be sensitive to their body language because if something does pop off they can inflict a lot of damage in a short amount of time. Yes they are very sweet toward their owners and most other people- that is something that has been bred into them also. But adopters shouldn't mistake this sweetness towards them as a universal trait toward everything.
COMMENT 320952	2012-09-17 06:38 AM
I once had someone shout at me, "your dog bit me! I'm calling the cops." My neighbor (who saw it) and I said, "go right ahead, we're calling them too". Dude! Wouldn'ta got bit if you hadn't shoved your foot in my door. Go sell your insurance elsewhere. Cops said, "yeah if he shows up here to report your dog, we'll arrest him for home invasion." Never did hear back from him.
COMMENT 320907	2012-09-16 07:58 PM
I always love it when they add, "And I'm a dog lover!"
COMMENT 320906P	2012-09-16 07:57 PM
905- so, are you saying that no canine behavior or traits are innate, or just pit bulls
COMMENT 320904	2012-09-16 07:49 PM
97, what do you mean by your first line, that Goldens are the best choice as pets? Think again. Goldens got so popular, that they now have HUGE health and temperament problems in their breed. There are lots of nice ones, but there are also skyrocketing numbers of aggressive ones, ones that die of cancer (esp. bone) young, and other health problems. Stereotypes seem to be everywhere. 50, you can split hairs and parse words, but if a dog snarls or lunges or goes at someone with its mouth open/teeth bared, that is close enough to scare the beans out of someone. Sure, it won't go into bite quarantine if the skin did not break, but the trauma is the same. I say enough apologizing for bad dogs, and I am a dog lover! I would never countenance my dog being the reason a child became afraid of dogs or an elderly person got too frightened to go out to walk. We must all respect each other even when it makes us uncomfortable or inconvenienced.
COMMENT 320897	2012-09-16 07:26 PM
Golden Retrievers for the win! Seriously, I remember a poster recently that bred pits and said something to the effect that when their pits turned a certain age the instincts kicked in and that they would never have their pits off a leash in a public place. I thought that was the most honest post thus far regarding this certain breed. They might be the most loyal and sweet dogs towards you and your family, but when things go bad, they go really bad.
COMMENT 321209	2012-09-16 06:38 PM
One 9-year (1979–1988) review of fatal dog attacks in the United States determined that, of the 101 attacks where breed was recorded, pit bulls were implicated in 42 of those attacks (41.6%).[36] A 1991 study found that 94% of attacks on children by pit bulls were unprovoked, compared to 43% for other breeds.[37] One 5-year (1989–1994) review of fatal dog attacks in the United States determined that pit bulls and pit bull mixed breeds were implicated in 24 (28.6%) of the 84 deaths where breed was recorded. And Jeesh - someone here was saying the 70's and 80's that rotts and shepherds were being blamed by the media. Seems like pits have always been prone to attacking humans.
COMMENT 320886	2012-09-16 06:32 PM
Remember "Petey," aka "Pete the Pup" in the old Little Rascals and Our Gang comedies? Pit Bull Terrier. It's the people not the pups, gang.
COMMENT 320874P	2012-09-16 05:54 PM
If only we could evaluate, license and pre-train parents of humans! And/or force birth control.
COMMENT 321209	2012-09-16 05:46 PM
Another pit bull incident? This is the 3rd in a week.
COMMENT 320907	2012-09-16 04:54 PM
As the one poster wrote on another anti-pit thread: years ago it was the German shepherd. Then came the Doberman. More recent, it was the Rottweiler. Now it is the Pit-bull terrier. Everyone needs to gain some perspective. Please realize that just because a dog is a certain breed, that does not mean the dog has ingrained/fixed behaviors. I really object to this rampant sensationalism surrounding pit-bulls and several other breeds of dog. It is NOT an "attack" if the dog barks at someone (or at another dog). It is NOT a bite, unless the skin is broken. Any dog can be fear-aggressive or trained to be overly protective. I agree that a lot of owners need to learn more. However, this exaggeration of events, reporting/indentifying them as attacks, is inexcusable.
COMMENT 320841	2012-09-16 04:26 PM
836P, I wish more pit owners were like you. You sound refreshingly logical AND responsible. Kudos to you.
COMMENT 320836P	2012-09-16 04:12 PM
@816P I laughed so hard I almost fell off my chair! Right now I have 5 female pits/pit mixes. Fostering 2 of them and trying to help out the County Shelter. Been doing this for about 9 years and I can say this: pit bulls are TERRIERS. The proper name is American Pit Bull Terrier. They are the biggest and strongest of the breed. I NEVER bring them to the dog park...ever. They often don't start trouble but if other dogs do.....the pitts will come in and finish it up and then get blamed for it all. Yes I LOVE pit bulls. And I am a geeky white dude who wears glasses. They are some of the sweetest dogs you will ever meet. BE A RESPONSI-BULL OWNER.
COMMENT 320824	2012-09-16 03:04 PM
Instead of licencing the dogs, we should be issuing licences to own a dog. At least half of dog owners have no clue whatsoever about being the 'owner' read leader of the pack. Their dogs bark on and on, rush people, and act out of control because the owner hasn't any idea what they are doing and doesn't care either. The dog is there for them, but they aren't there for the dog. These selfish little worms should not be allowed to own any animals at all. A dog owners licence should include training classes for the new pooch ( mainly for the owner, the dogs will respond appropiately when led correctly), vet care and responsibilities, and rules of the road when your dog is out. It doesn't have to cost any more than the current dog licence, and the classes are on the owner to pay for.
COMMENT 321049	2012-09-16 03:03 PM
I love that SB has a place for dogs and owners to fight.
COMMENT 320819	2012-09-16 02:55 PM
Wolfhounds? Or dogs that looked like part wolf? Because wolfhounds are extremely large, and pretty uncommon.
COMMENT 321073P	2012-09-16 02:50 PM
807P- That is so true. My husband and I have a part Pitt and she is the sweetest, calmest, non aggressive dog I have ever met. Just like the owners!
COMMENT 320807P	2012-09-16 02:34 PM
People buy Pit Bulls because they match their personality. Pit Bull owners would bite you hard if they thought they could get away with it.
COMMENT 320806	2012-09-16 02:31 PM
At Tuckers Grove, coppers made contact with a guy who appears frantic. Two officers talking to the gentleman. So far no guns drawn... Officers getting back in their units, proceeding east bound to the dog park and out of my sight.
ROGER DODGER	2012-09-16 02:24 PM
Apprently there is more to the call haven't heard it all young couple is trying to leave with their Pitt Bull before police arrive. In an unrealated case two large wolf hounds were chasing and attackjing people in Carpinteria over on Ash street. The dogs were chasing people on motorcycles and bicycles I heard they bit a motorcyclist.

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