COMMENT 320235P
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2012-09-14 09:01 PM |
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sounds like some people have found loopholes to enable them to circumvent rules everybody else has to live by. Noise, serving alcohol w/o permits, drunk and disorderly conduct, blaring lights, PA systems, drunk driving in the neighborhoods, etc. Then they are the first and loudest to holler "Property Rights! Nanny State!" But you KNOW they'd be the first to call the cops if anyone threatened their own private tranquility. These folks need a good dose of reality, or maybe a bucket of shower water over their heads?
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COMMENT 319903
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2012-09-14 11:46 AM |
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This is not an every now and then thing. I know of the house they are talking about on More Mesa. The owner is a former actress and rents it out for weddings and parties to make her money. How do I know? I was there once and realized how POed the neighbors got after hearing how many times she had done that. She doesn't even use the house as a vacation/seasonal home for herself, simply as a party venue. Thats not right.
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COMMENT 319830
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2012-09-14 10:13 AM |
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RIGHT ON, 266! Gimme a BREAK. People have parties and if we can't put up with a couple of them every now and then what have we become as a society? What is this the elite special retirement community destination USA?
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COMMENT 319722
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2012-09-14 08:05 AM |
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I disagree with 421. People who choose to live in urban areas like the proximity to amenities but they are also entitled to peace and quiet to enjoy their property. The regulations in place provide a basis for having that peace and quiet. No one buys a house in a neighborhood expectlng one of the houses to be turned into a VRBO, a quasi-boarding house, or a party house rental. Zoning and the regulations are in place to provide a standard so we can all enjoy our homes. If the existing codes were enforced, we wouldn't be having all these problems.
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FLICKA
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2012-09-14 07:13 AM |
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275, good comment. That wedding closed off a whole street, sheriff deputys manning the blockage. Crazy for neighbors, miles away even, with helicopters buzzing for hours. For a make-believe marriage!!
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COMMENT 319577P
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2012-09-13 06:07 PM |
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Yeah, but your great grandfather was grounded in a small town where everyone knew everyone. Kim Kardashian's entourage and rent-a-wedding-for-TV hadn't been dreamed of, nor had limos, event planners, and perhaps electricity. Nice thought though.
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COMMENT 319558
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2012-09-13 05:16 PM |
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452 Yes, we will have huge events with no permits, and yes we will throw parties with no building inspections. Your great grandfather's would laugh at you right now for saying that we need all of those things to have a good time. For the ones before us, they lived and had fun with much lower means. Permits..Inspectors..Bahahaha! Fool.
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COMMENT 319497
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2012-09-13 03:40 PM |
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Pass another law and there will be another loophole. The reason these people are mad is because they aren't getting invited. Don't forget the golden rule, people!
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COMMENT 319452P
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2012-09-13 02:51 PM |
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Oh yes lets have lots of huge events at places that serve food without health permits and use structures that have had no fire or other building inspections. The threats and drummedup "support" by the events industry is transparent and insulting to those of us who value our neighborhoods and our zoning
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COMMENT 319421P
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2012-09-13 02:23 PM |
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O.K. People who like to be near the action live in the city. People who want more space and peace and quiet buy property in the country. Country property is not cheap. Sometimes it is where people who worked hard all their lives, buy to be able to relax and hear the birds sing not- amplified music. But there are plenty of young people out there who raise children, horses, etc. Don't they have a right to have their zoning ordinance obeyed? Sound carries a long way in open spaces,. Would you welcome large groups of drinking drivers on your country roads? Please be honest,
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COMMENT 319558
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2012-09-13 01:59 PM |
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People need to have a good time. I'm sure all of you have used, at some point, a rental where you made some noise and made people upset. Get over it. It's life, let people enjoy themselves and have a good time.
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COMMENT 319370
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2012-09-13 12:34 PM |
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I never knew Figueroa Mountain Farmhouse existed! I'm really excited. 100% the exact type of place I was looking for for my wedding.
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COMMENT 319362
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2012-09-13 12:00 PM |
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Wow, awesome! Can I get more information on how to rent these spaces before the law changes and we're not allowed to do that?
Some of the houses here in SB are amazing and people should be able to make use of them as a venue if a property owner wants to rent it out.
You have to fight for your right to party!
Sorry to those of you who live in the nice houses full time.
:P Most of us are NOT sympathetic.
#Rich-People-Problems
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COMMENT 319558
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2012-09-13 11:47 AM |
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Its sad that they are trying to restrict these events over some old farts who sleep with their hearing aids. These types of events are what drive a local economy. All I can think of is the people that will be losing work, over frivolous ordinances.
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COMMENT 319903
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2012-09-13 10:49 AM |
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There are laws governing the operation of businesses in residential districts, and renting a home out for a party/wedding is profitable practice. Therefore it should be treated as a business. It's true that it doesn't matter until you are the neighbor who lives next door. If the police could do more than show up for a noise ordinance with their hands tied, I'm sure it wouldn't call for more legislation. What else is one to do, though, when they are required to call the police multiple times a month? The property owners and renters are not a part of this community, and don't really care as long as they had an awesome party and made some money.
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COMMENT 319452P
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2012-09-13 10:02 AM |
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People, including Chris Meagher, shouldn't minimize the existence or impact of these unpermitted uses. Basically, these profit-making endeavors render the existence of zoning ordinances or community plans moot. Also, please know that the effort to kill these reasonable propositions is well-orchestrated, beginning last year with COLAB and infamous former County CEO Mike Brown inserting themselves into the process. The idea that property zoned residential or Ag should be able to become events centers hosting hundreds of guests every weekend, without permits or inspections is ludicrous, and unheard of in any other county. I'm tired of those special interests hijacking what was to be a reasonable, sensible approach to a growing intrusion in our neighborhoods and communities.
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COMMENT 319302
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2012-09-13 09:55 AM |
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I can truly sympathize with you. Our neighborhood also has a weekend rental that frequently infringes on our peace and space. A change to an ordinance is one thing, but layering more laws on top is another. I'd like to see fewer laws and have those remaining more strictly enforced. Perhaps a stiffer fine for those who are violators. Solving problems using the strong-arm of the law is akin to killing an ant with a sledge hammer. Be very careful, laws once instituted are rarely revoked. You, one day, may want to rent out your home or family's home.
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COMMENT 319577P
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2012-09-13 09:17 AM |
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It's not a problem until it's next door to you, then it's a big problem...noise, traffic, parking, lights, extra trash trucks, pre and post event setup and takedown, etc. Yeah, the upper crust is more affected than us schloobs, but still, fair is fair. There's at least a few Ranches down Carp Valley way that are also doing this.
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COMMENT 319266
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2012-09-13 09:09 AM |
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Santa Barbara is choking on it's laws and ordinances.
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COMMENT 319259P
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2012-09-13 08:59 AM |
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First world problems.
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