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Bicycle Safety Enforcement

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COMMENT 319078	2012-09-12 03:49 PM
This is a good thing. Enforcing the rules makes it safer for everyone; pedestrians, cyclists and motorists. Do something about the skateboarders on the sidewalk downtown too. That's against the law and posted yet daily skate boarders weave in and out of sidewalk traffic on State Street.
COMMENT 319082	2012-09-12 03:53 PM
Take care of the gang members and drug dealers. I could really care less of a kid was a nuisance on a skateboard on state street. Get some of the guns and drugs out of the neigborhood.
COMMENT 319083	2012-09-12 03:55 PM
I like this! Ticket all those darn folks riding bikes AND ignoring ALL the rules of the road.
COMMENT 319084	2012-09-12 03:57 PM
If the officers come by my house, they are going to get writers cramp with all the missed stop signs. They might need to call in more help!
COMMENT 319085	2012-09-12 04:01 PM
They should also ticket people riding 2, even 3 abreast in narrow bike lanes, often sticking out several feet into regular traffic lanes. I'm an avid cyclist and let me tell you, it's way better to stay out of the car's way than to act stubborn and entitled.
COMMENT 319087	2012-09-12 04:06 PM
Riding 2 or 3 abreast in CA is not specifically illegal. It might not always be smart, but not illegal.
COMMENT 319088	2012-09-12 04:08 PM
Cool anything to stop the fools who ride the wrong way down one way streets or ride from nowhere across pedestrian crossings. Are we supposed to predict your reckless riding patterns?
COMMENT 319092	2012-09-12 04:10 PM
Is it really necessary to spot at the mid block lights if no one is crossing?
COMMENT 319093	2012-09-12 04:11 PM
@092, Only if you're on 2 or more wheels. Unicycles and bicycles doing wheelies are allowed to blow the light.
COMMENT 319095P	2012-09-12 04:12 PM
well they missed the cruiser ride by a month, would've been like shooting fish in a barrel. not to mention all the DUI's they could have doled out.
COMMENT 319096P	2012-09-12 04:14 PM
A very good thing and I hope they will also ticket those holding/talking on cellphones while biking, just as they do drivers. I've seen many go through red lights, talking on their phones. I am a biker --- as well as a pedestrian and a driver --- and I wish all would obey the rules. The bikers who don't create hostility in drivers that overflows onto all of us on bikes.
COMMENT 319098P	2012-09-12 04:16 PM
Too bad many adults do not grow up to be responsible.
COMMENT 319100	2012-09-12 04:20 PM
Hating on cyclists is such a popular edhat pastime! We are lucky in live in such a beautiful and relatively uncongested place. Take a breath and try to share the road - a moment or two to pass safely won't make a big difference in your day and will surely increase the peace. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone - whether on two wheels or four.
COMMENT 319104	2012-09-12 04:32 PM
no 100 hating on BAD cyclists is a popular edhat pastime and frankly they deserve it! Ride on good cyclists, ticket the bad please before I accidentally swipe one barreling through a ped crossing.
COMMENT 319106	2012-09-12 04:35 PM
@096P -- So are you saying you make a complete stop (both feet down) at every stop sign you come across? Spare me.
COMMENT 319107P	2012-09-12 04:35 PM
GOOD its about time. Not a day goes by that I don't have 2 or 3 near-misses on my way to work, as a result of cyclists, running stops and red lights, going the wrong way, this morning, one actually riding on the sidewalk in the opposite direction, etc etc etc
COMMENT 319108	2012-09-12 04:37 PM
go ticket those punks in iv.
COMMENT 319084	2012-09-12 04:47 PM
If they do a sting at a school cross walk they can really rack up those tickets, cyclists here blow past the kids in the walk all the time (keep waiting for the crossing guard to loose it and whack one with their stop sign)
COMMENT 319112P	2012-09-12 04:48 PM
As a cyclist I'm happy about this for two reasons: 1. Catch the few jerks that give the rest of us cyclists a bad reputation. 2. Catch the agressive motor vehicle operators who come too close while passing, intimidate by gunning their engine as they pass you, yell and throw stuff at you, etc. I would LOVE for the Cops to catch one of those @'s.
COMMENT 319113	2012-09-12 04:48 PM
What is even worse is parents and grandparents who are riding with children and ignoring the rules. Not a good thing to be teaching them!
COMMENT 319116	2012-09-12 05:02 PM
Riding 2 or more abreast is specifically illegal if the cyclists are not in a bicycle lane and not keeping up at the speed of the vehicle traffic. The law is quite specific V C Section 21202 (a) : "Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at that time shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the road." (there are exceptions for specific situations such as hazards and passing other cyclists.) By definition, if you're riding next to another cyclist, it is impossible to also be riding as close to the right-hand curb as practicable, hence this practice is illegal. Check the vehicle code before encouraging dangerous and illegal habits amongst your fellow cyclists.
COMMENT 319120	2012-09-12 05:10 PM
Not stopping at a 4 way stop should be grounds for a ticket. Slowing but rolling through a non traffic obstructed three way stop should be considered fine. Mid block intersection stops are pointless for bikes unless a pedestrian is crossing the street, in which case a bicyclist should use the judgment of stopping if a collision is possible. I see just as many cars do California stops as I see cyclists roll through mid block stop lights/stop signs. The fact that bicyclists are targeted specifically for something that trivial is a joke. Riding with headphones, riding on the sidewalk, and wrong way on a one way street are a given, and are all too often NOT ticketed when they should be. Go out to UCSB and you will give out tickets constantly. Instead they decide to bust people at the new traffic circle on Los Carneros for rolling through the straight section at the 3 way stop.
COMMENT 319121	2012-09-12 05:10 PM
I would like to see a traffic study done that compares the incidents of bad cycling vs. bad driving.
COMMENT 319125	2012-09-12 05:17 PM
If you can't win the gang banger or homless war then try the the bicycle war.
COMMENT 319128	2012-09-12 05:19 PM
Most bicyclist don't even slow down for stop signs. I doubt any of this will change that fact.
COMMENT 319130	2012-09-12 05:19 PM
The bicycles painted with direction arrows from San Pasqual -> Coronel Place -> Rancheria -> Montecito Street give a false impression that cyclists should use the whole road regardless of other traffic. A simple physics lesson might change their mind. The accident involving the doctor up north is a case in point. If you are going to ride, be smart and don't assume it gives you carte-blanche to the pavement lest you plan on becoming one with it.
COMMENT 319133	2012-09-12 05:36 PM
I live in that area, I think the symbols are a universal language to welcome the bike riders off the sidewalks.
COMMENT 319138	2012-09-12 05:52 PM
Great. Now do it during the Fiesta Bike Ride, SBPD.
COMMENT 319139	2012-09-12 05:55 PM
Why don't we in California adopt what already exists in Idaho?T he Idaho experience has demonstrated bicyclists do not mistakenly fail to stay out of the way of approaching motorists at stop signs or red lights just because the law in Idaho allows them to stop and/or yield and roll. Bicyclists tend to want to roll through stop signs and stop lights when there is no approaching traffic because it requires considerable energy to stop completely and get back up to speed. In addition, bicyclists instinctively recognize they will be safer if they can minimize time spent in intersections. While the data is not entirely clear, at least one European study has demonstrated that removing stop and yield signs tends to reduce the number of collisions because operators pay more attention to approaching traffic and engage in cooperative merging and sharing of the roadway (in much the same way pedestrians share sidewalks).
COMMENT 319084	2012-09-12 06:22 PM
139, The population of Idaho is slightly less than California-probably less than SB County. So yes some traffic rules might be different. It is not the single riders that are the biggest part of the problem that I see, it is the groups and clubs that are the worst. If they are out on a training ride, then they can use the stops as part of their training. I have heard of a few clubs in other states that do use the stops.
COMMENT 319148	2012-09-12 06:33 PM
Walking across the street at a green in one of the middle of the street sidewalks a couple days ago and a jerk on his bike had to skid to a stop just in time to avoid hitting the girl in front of me. I told him he is supposed to stop behind the line where the cars have to stop and he argued with me. Thing is, all wheels on the road have to follow the same driving laws, period. It would hurt to get hit by anything moving fast, including a bike.
COMMENT 319149	2012-09-12 06:36 PM
It's almost the end of the fiscal quarter. Methinks SBPD has a quota to make up on.
COMMENT 319153	2012-09-12 06:59 PM
I agree with stopping at red lights but coming to a full stop at a stop sign when there are no cars anywhere in sight is ridiculous. Also, if your headphones are on low and can still hear what's going on around you, I don't see a problem with that. My biggest beef are cars that don't use their blinkers for right hand turns and nearly run me over when I'm legally and previously happily bipping along in the bike lane. That happened to me twice the other day.
ROGER DODGER	2012-09-12 07:00 PM
They ought to give people tickets that wear spandix/
COMMENT 319125	2012-09-12 07:14 PM
People or just men Roger?
COMMENT 319128	2012-09-12 07:31 PM
Why bicyclists act oblivious to the laws of the road is beyond me. Bikes make small dents in cars, cars make pancakes out of people. Have some respect for your body.
COMMENT 319082	2012-09-12 07:46 PM
I love it when cyclists balance on the white line - or even better ride in the middle of a neighborhood street going under the speed limit holding up traffic behind them. And do they all think they ride for a corporate sponsor? How about some plain solid colors - tired of seeing non professional and barely amateur bicyclists dressed like they are getting paid to ride by a corporation.
COMMENT 319170	2012-09-12 07:55 PM
It's a two way street. I'm an avid cyclist, driver, and commuter. Do the right thing and expect the right thing in return. There are bad drivers and cyclists. Using words like "many", "most", or "all" with respect to either group is complete opinion. Some of the comments with regard to cyclists are downright scary and I hope that's just your comments on this site and not the way you act on the roads. You're in a massive vehicle, we're on a light bike wearing basically underwear, you're going to win if it comes to that, so let's not let it. Are you going to be happy when you ruin someone's life just because you were right or saved 10 seconds getting to work? Two big ones I would like to see enforced better: #1 hands-free cell phone law for both drivers and cyclists. I see as many or more drivers on their cells as before the law. #2 kids are required by law to wear helmets. Many don't. Their parents need to make the point and get them to wear them all the time.
COMMENT 319182	2012-09-12 08:18 PM
A significant proportion of cyclists in this area - especially in Isla Vista - ride their bikes at night without front or rear lights - and many a time I have seen them even sailing past police cars - without getting a ticket. Is there no legal requirement regarding lights on bicycles after dark in this area? I am a total supporter of human powered 2-wheeled transport - but to ride without lights at night is foolhardy - perhaps even Darwin Award material.
COMMENT 319204	2012-09-13 06:00 AM
I commute on my bike across town at least once a day. There are so many moron bike riders in this town that I am all for this sting. I'm tired of other bikers riding the wrong way, on sidewalks, running lights, etc. If they'd just follow the rules (same with cars), there'd be fewer accidents, smoother traffic flow, etc. Book 'em Dano!
COMMENT 319112P	2012-09-13 06:01 AM
Why the h8, Roger? Cyclists on EdHat don't feel that way about you!
COMMENT 319215	2012-09-13 06:54 AM
FInally! I am a cyclist and I am all for this. My biggest pet peeves: riding on the sidewalk or wrong way down the street, wearing headphones and kid without helmets. Thanks SBPD!
COMMENT 319218	2012-09-13 07:06 AM
I ride my bike almost daily and mind the right of way of motorized vehicles for purely selfish reasons. The other day, however, I came up too fast on an intersection and saw a truck at a complete stop. I could have stopped but knowing that the majority of Santa Barbarans would would wave me through anyway, I made eye contact, waved politely and kept going. The guy started rolling slowly to scare me. We exchanged words and he made clear that he thought I should have stopped. I clearly should have but what I just described was an assault with a deadly weapon; not simply a failure to stop at a stopsign. Had I been killed, say because I got scared and ran into a tree, it would have been murder. A jerk is a jerk regardless of how he chooses to get around.
COMMENT 319224	2012-09-13 07:23 AM
218 - Don't EVER assume that we will waive you through. I will not waive you through. Stop running stop signs. I will be going through the intersection when it is my turn in my car. If you decide to break the law then you are responsible for the consequences.
COMMENT 319078	2012-09-13 07:34 AM
Nor have I ever "waved through" a cyclist at an intesection or seen any other drivers do so. I just see entitled cyclists dangerously blow through stop signs without stopping when they do not have the right-of-way. That's failure to yeild. Obey the rules of the road so people know what to expect of you. It's safest for eveyone on the sidewalks, bikelanes and streets.
COMMENT 319228	2012-09-13 07:47 AM
Thank goodness. Neiher cyclists nor drivers seem to comprehend the laws or who has the right of way or the concept of safety first. I was on a jury (car vs cycle) and one of the witnesses was a well known local cycle store owner who had worked with Lance Armstrong, but when asked if he knew the bicycle road laws in town, he said, "some of them.". That was telling.
COMMENT 319120	2012-09-13 08:17 AM
228: Do you expect him to be a reputable source for every single law. Stating that he knew some of the laws sounds like accurate description of most people to me. How many drivers do you know that can list all laws associated with cars off the top of their head? How many police for that matter? When I was pulled over at 17 after curfew, an officer questioned ME about the law regarding my curfew. That was telling.
SEEDLADY	2012-09-13 08:21 AM
now, if we can just do the same with motorcycles splitting lanes at 70mph...
COMMENT 319239P	2012-09-13 08:25 AM
I drive and I bike. I always ride legally and w/o spandex (I'm from Davis, we're raised to ride) and drivers constantly yell at me I should be riding on the sidewalk. That's telling, too. I wouldn't waive any bicyclist through and I don't like it when people waive me through, either. I'm one of those righteous bikers who thinks every time you break the law you give the haters more justification for their belief they should be able to kill us with no consequences. Those who like to use their auto as a weapon should know it is ALWAYS illegal to intentionally hit another person/vehicle, whether they are behaving illegally or not.
COMMENT 319082	2012-09-13 08:30 AM
Time to watch "Breaking Away".
COMMENT 319148	2012-09-13 08:40 AM
I was walking home and turned a corner on the sidewalk and had to jump back out of the of a man in spandex riding his bike the wrong way, REALLY fast, on the sidewalk. If he had hit me he could have killed me, he was going at least 15 mph and didn't seem to care at all that he was that close to harming me. There are too many bikes on the sidewalks, it's dangerous! Stay in the bike lanes!!
COMMENT 319170	2012-09-13 08:47 AM
228, do all drivers know all traffic laws? How about the one that says that a cyclist can ride in the driving lane if the bike lane is too narrow or if a road hazard exists, and cars must allow 3 feet of space when they pass the cyclist? Why is everyone so angry? I agree there are jerk cyclists out there. There are also lots of jerk drivers. They aren't jerks because they are cyclists or drivers, they are just jerks in general. Hating one group because of the actions of some solves nothing.
COMMENT 319261	2012-09-13 09:05 AM
i had no idea about the headphones law/ so you can wear one ear but not two? hm.
COMMENT 319228	2012-09-13 09:06 AM
Yes, I expect him to know the bicycle laws of each state/country he cycles in. Anything less is negligence. I visit relatives out of state once a year and I know that state's driving laws as well as California's. Ignorance of the law is now excuse. It's especially ignorant in this case because it's the man's bread and butter.
COMMENT 319271	2012-09-13 09:13 AM
It's about time! Too often there are accidents because of the bicycles failure to follow the rules of the road. Those rules are so that everyone is safe!
COMMENT 319120	2012-09-13 09:28 AM
Without searching, there is no way 263 could accurately list every law in the vehicle code to a T. I can write up a quiz/test if you like, and we can see how you do? I think you greatly underestimate how many rules there are aside from speed, right of way, signaling, etc. For a shop owner to say he knows some of the laws is showing that he is humble. If he had said he knew every law off from memory, I would assume he is completely full of it.
COMMENT 319112P	2012-09-13 09:30 AM
I had to jump out of the way of a woman car driver wearing a lycra yoga outfit. Should I hate her for wearing that? Good grief people.
COMMENT 319170	2012-09-13 11:08 AM
263, so you're saying someone who drives every day must know every traffic law? I agree that ignorance of them is no excuse (and people do get tickets for things they didn't know about), but that still doesn't mean everyone who drives knows every traffic law. I would put a lot of money on the idea that there isn't a bike shop owner around that knows every bike-related traffic law. Same for avid cyclists. Unless of course they happen to be lawyers! Share the road!
COMMENT 319338	2012-09-13 11:09 AM
319251: Do all drivers know all the traffic laws? Probably not, but we all know that ignorance of the law is not an excuse for breaking it. Do I know every traffic law? Almost. I definitely know all of the traffic laws that affect me and my safety on a daily basis. Your ignorance of traffic laws is scary. There is no law that says that cars must allow 3 feet of space when they pass the cyclist. (This is a dangerous myth cyclists keep perpetuating, endangering themselves and their fellow cyclists). Also, there is no law that says "a cyclist can ride in the driving lane if the bike lane is too narrow or if a road hazard exists". The law says that cyclists are REQUIRED to ride as far as possible to the right-side of the road, with the EXCEPTION of when they are avoiding a hazard (there's nothing about when bike lanes are too narrrow).
COMMENT 319120	2012-09-13 11:36 AM
338: You are correct, ignorance is not an excuse. Just like texting/talking while driving. Yet I still see this everyday. Anectodal evidence from posters about how they saw some cyclist ride on the sidewalk or almost kill their friend doesn't do anything to fix the problem, does it? I can go on day in and day out about how many cars have almost hit me while I've ridden my bike, walked, and driven my car. I can even tell you how many cars I've seen driven into houses. Labelling cyclists as the only offending party, and the WORST offending party is attempting to solve half of the problem. I also don't think asking for 3 feet is unreasonable. Stay updated too, as that may become a law if it goes through the senate. Using common sense when riding/driving is paramount to any law, valid or not.
COMMENT 319116	2012-09-13 12:12 PM
354: Who labelled cyclists as the only or worst offending party? There are offenders in cars, on bikes, and on foot. But the cyclists tend to be very self-righteous about motorized vehicles respecting their rights on the road ("share the road"), while simultaneously ignoring the rules of the road that apply to them. This encourages illegal and dangerous cycling. And yes, I know that the 3-foot rule "may" become law some day. But it isn't the law now, and never has been, and cyclists need to stop spreading this myth (along with the one about it being okay to ride 2 abreast) because they're simply untrue and they're putting themselves at risk.
COMMENT 319228	2012-09-13 12:38 PM
What it comes down to is that if you hit a cyclist or pedestrian, you are going to pay for hospital bills and perhaps face jail time. Doesn't matter if the cyclist ran into you. Seriously. You're just screwed.
COMMENT 319120	2012-09-13 01:03 PM
366: Self righteous? Are you hearing yourself? This thread is a bashfest from self righteous people. Would you like me to split hairs and critique your driving as well? Technically, if you drive 41 in a 40 zone, you are also breaking the law, please get off the road.
COMMENT 319116	2012-09-13 01:16 PM
319228: You must have missed the recent story about the woman who stepped out onto a Milpas Street crosswalk, was knocked down and injured by a van. When the Santa Barbara police officer arrived, he wrote her a ticket. She went to court to fight it and lost. See Barney Brantingham's article in the August 16th Independent. Moral of the story: We ALL need to be cautious, EVERYBODY needs to share the road, and NOBODY is above the law. 319381: The "self-righteous" is because on this thread, it's cyclists who are saying it's okay to break the rules of the road and complaining about tickets (yes, read through the comments, please). Drivers do break the law, and if they try to claim they have a right to break the law or complain that enforcement of the law is "unfair", I would certainly call them self-righteous as well.
COMMENT 319170	2012-09-13 03:49 PM
338 that's interesting you say my assertion of the 3 foot law and riding in the lane is false. I got it straight from the Ca DMV driver's handbook. It's at the bottom of the page for "traffic lanes". Are they actual laws, I am not sure, but it seems to me if they are in the handbook used to teach people the rules of the road, they aren't there as comedy relief. I'm not advocating cyclists disobeying the rules. They should, and I do, and I encourage others I see to do so. I take exception to people saying all cyclists act a certain way. Do I assert my rights on the road, yes! I weigh maybe 180lb including my bike. If I get hit by even the lightest car on the road going pretty slow, the car will win! I need to assert my rights (and be responsible) in order to stay safe and come home each day to my wife and son. Why does this topic make people so angry? Most riders I see are your friends and family just out having fun and getting a workout and mostly obeying the rules.
COMMENT 319338	2012-09-13 04:24 PM
To see the actual laws, you need to look at the vehicle code, not the driver's handbook. But if you look closer at the driver's handbook, you'll notice, it's not a law, it's a guideline, as the text is "typically 3 feet". Further down the page there is a list of things that is preceded by the words, "Motor vehicle drivers must:" which indicates they are actual laws (but only if the same text appears in vehicle code, the handbook does a lot of paraphrasing). In this section, it simply says "Allow sufficient clearance, and ample room for movement". There is no mention of 3-feet. I'm not complaining about cyclists, I'm simply trying to clear up the misconceptions about the vehicle code so you and your fellow cyclists don't get a false sense of security. It is everyone's responsibility to know the rules and follow them.
COMMENT 319538	2012-09-13 04:53 PM
"Most bicyclist don't even slow down for stop signs." This is, of course, not true.
COMMENT 319559	2012-09-13 05:17 PM
I am 100% for this! I wish it was enforced more often! As both a driver and a cyclist. I unfortunately had an incident this past year, where I hit a bicylce who failed (or should i say, didnt' even bother slowing) to stop at a stop sign. He tried to blame me for the incident, saying i should have been more cautious knowing he was coming. I had to let him know that bikes are SUPPOSED to stop at a stop sign. Cops were involved, he got cited for not stopping (there were witnesses) AND he had to pay for my busted head light.
COMMENT 319564	2012-09-13 05:26 PM
I agree with some of the posters who've said, irrespective of the law, use Common Sense out there. I've been driving since 1968, and no matter how confident I now feel on the road, 3 feet clearance is the bare minimum I try to observe when driving my car on a road I have to share with cyclists. Anything can happen at any time. The cyclist could hit a small pothole, or ride over a stone on the road, causing them to momentarily lose perfect control of their bike. With much less than three feet between them and my car, I'm not comfortable that they will always be able to avoid colliding into my vehicle, nor that I will be able to avoid hitting them. I never want it on my conscience that I maimed, disfigured, or killed someone else, when I could have taken precautions to avoid it. The drivers who've posted contrary, aggressive opinions here, frankly, frighten me.
COMMENT 319596	2012-09-13 07:00 PM
Traffic rules pertaining to stop lights and stop signs are a matter of law not personal opinion. Why do some think they can ignore laws with impunity because they are inconvenient or difficult? Cyclists: Yes you are entitled to ride in the traffic lane but why do you do it when it clearly impedes the flow of traffic? Drivers: why don't you pay more attention to cyclists and stop trying to bully them into submission?
COMMENT 319657P	2012-09-13 09:25 PM
Agree that this is long overdue!! It's very stressful to be driving along, nervous you're going to hit a human body because the cyclist is not obeying the law. Just today I was stopped at a stop sign, starting to go, and a cyclist blew right through her intersecting stop sign. Very scary. AND, even if it's not the law for over 18 years of age....cyclists....wear a helmet!!! A guy at work was hit on his bike (not his fault) and thank god he was wearing a helmet or he'd be dead right now....
COMMENT 320027	2012-09-14 02:44 PM
If you want kids to wear helmets, the adults and parents should put them on too. The legislators only passed this nanny law for kids because they knew the adults would scream bloody murder if they made it a law for them. It's a good idea for everyone, so if you make laws over it, apply them to everyone! I have to say I ride in the bike lane on Castillo the wrong way from Sola to Micheltorena because it is safer than being on Micheltorena after turning from Bath. If they want us to obey all laws, they need to provide bike lanes on these critical roads. But they can't because the planning department has allowed all of the high density housing with inadequate parking. So bikers have to risk their lives or a ticket.
COACH F	2012-09-14 04:12 PM
Comment 319082... "tired of seeing non professional and barely amateur bicyclists dressed like they are getting paid to ride by a corporation". By this argument would it be fair to ask that all the supporters one sees sporting Lakers, 49ers, Sharks etc clothing to also stop wearing it? At least the cyclists are actually riding bicycles. How many Lakers T-shirt wearers do you think actually play basketball on a regular basis?
COMMENT 319108	2012-09-14 05:01 PM
coach F i see your point! But it's kinda different. If i see a lakers t shirt or jersey, usually that's the only thing you see the draws attention to your team. You are not wearing the jersey the shorts the shoes the socks and headband that makes it look like your actually playing the game. On the other hand you have spandex outfits that are composed of nothing but advertising for something you could care less about. Lets just say you have all these advertisers on your butt back legs and chest. Well maybe you are slow out of shape and look funny. Would you be encouraged to buy there products or go to the stores? The same thing goes to kids who wear Rock Star or monster energy clothing or t shirts. Are you getting paid for this? Our do you just like to advertise for free and pay for the clothing also. If you wear and add you should be getting paid for it.

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