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COMMENT 317616	2012-09-08 01:09 PM
a STRIP search? You MUST be joking. Please tell us what school you're in.
COMMENT 317619	2012-09-08 01:13 PM
this is in effect at all three high schools in santa barbara. i am a student at san marcos and i agree, this is a violation of our rights
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-08 01:14 PM
Thank you for sharing this information? What school do you attend may I ask? If it is true that a student might be "strip searched" I find this completely unacceptable. Unfortunately the world has changed - the authorities expect us to believe that we should give up our individual rights for the sake of everyone's safety. I do not believe in this methodology. Making everyone to feel like a criminal is not the right way to go. I would encourage your parents, and for like minded parents of your school to protest - through letter writing, in person meetings with school officials, and by getting a voice heard in the newspaper. Threats of lawsuits and national media attention usually make schools back down quickly. I'm sorry to hear of this authoritarian and Orwellian abuse you've been subjected to. Please keep us updated.
COMMENT 317623	2012-09-08 01:17 PM
ALL RIGHT!!!!! Finally the High School will be a safe and clean environment for the students that WANT to learn!!!!! I'm sure my right to send MY student to a problem free school supersedes what ever right my student thinks he or she has. I think this over time will be goo for society. Now they just need to work on the dress code and tattoo's in school.
COMMENT 317626	2012-09-08 01:21 PM
Boy, does this kid have a lot to learn. When you go into the workforce you will be subjected to an even higher level of scrutiny. If you become a commercial driver you will be subjected to random drug testing where you must give a urine or blood sample. If you don't you'll lose you job. If you join the military you will be subjected to random drug testing and your living quarters will be searched without warning. These are just a few examples of the kinds of jobs that require drug testing and searches of private property.
COMMENT 317627	2012-09-08 01:23 PM
623 thinks this will rid the schools of all problems. This is actually good news for the students the sooner you learn to distrust law enforcement the better. Just wait until the attack dog bites a kid and the parents sue the school district. This will be funny in the end.
COMMENT 317630P	2012-09-08 01:28 PM
The solution is a simple one: Don't bring drugs, alcohol, or other contraband on campus and you'll have no problem. As you knowledge, any situation in which someone who was _not_ breaking the law is hassled would be, in your own words, bizarre and unlikely. I have one child at SBHS now, another is a recent graduate. As everyone who has a connection there knows, the drug problem there has gotten way out of hand. I am happy that the current administration is working with local law enforcement agencies to enforce a no tolerance policy. My child deserves the right to a safe and drug-free campus where learning is the first priority.
COMMENT 317631	2012-09-08 01:29 PM
Bringing drug sniffing dogs to school , is a positive thing. If it gets to a point to where a individual is pulled out of class and further investigated I hope the person has enough sense to have his or her guardian/parent there with them. As far a residue left behind, that means you were in possession of an illegal substance long enough to leave proof. Having known that k-9 drug dogs can come to school at any time should be enough of a scare to have students leave their supply at home. Drugs on campus has increased greatly in the last two years. Marijuana, spice and other designer drugs are being used at an alarming rate. It is bothersome that the few individuals that do use and bring drugs to campus, ruin everyone elses freedom and put them under scrutiny. Thanks for your teen voice as always!
COMMENT 317639	2012-09-08 01:38 PM
Laws regarding strip searches, especially regarding minors, are very specific, and this type of search would only occur if/when a situation like this results in the minor being taken into custody for a law violation and booked into a juvenile detention facility. A strip search can be conducted at the juvenile facility as a part of the booking process in order to assure safety of the minor and other detainees. If you Google this topic, you will find the company's (Interquest Detection Canines) description of their procedure if the dog alerts on a substance. It includes notifying administration, bringing the minor to the office so they can provide information, notifying parents, etc., but NOT strip searching.
COMMENT 317630P	2012-09-08 01:55 PM
636: Probably better to quote the actual text of the Fourth Amendment in this case rather than (a version of) the Franklin aphorism that's become so popular of late with those of certain political persuasions: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures..." The key word here is "unreasonable." A search process, one that's known in advance and announced, to keep drugs out of a school is not in any way an unreasonable one.
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-08 02:14 PM
The lawyers are circling like sharks. Wait for the classaction lawsuits... wait for it... !
COMMENT 317627	2012-09-08 02:17 PM
I sure hope the class action lawsuit starts soon. This is wrong in so many ways. This is now the U.S.S.R. Goodbye America it was a good run but your country is no more.
COMMENT 317663	2012-09-08 02:21 PM
Please take some time to read the district website and the limitations on the drug dog searches. It is not legal to strip search students...and it will not happen. Students do not have a right to be in contact with ILLEGAL substances.....and will get busted for it. Just a quick reminder...the only substance 18 year olds can legally have...are cigarettes..and those are banned by law from all public school for all employees too. I am glad that the students who knowlingly taunt the laws by bringing drugs, weapons, and alcohol to school, and their parents, may have to face legal consequences. It's about time!
COMMENT 317665	2012-09-08 02:24 PM
Wow. A lockdown mentality pervades the comments here. School is for learning, which in itself is under siege from anti-union zealots, and now the kids are going to be treated like criminals before they actually do anything wrong. Are the dogs sniffing the offices, especially the administrators offices? They had better be. If my kid was still in school I would yank him out 2 minutes after such an invasive, ridiculous, punitive, paranoid and overkill event. This is what happens when people submit like sheep to airline 'security', it expands into every segment of society. Guess what, there is no way to be 100% secure and safe, no matter how much you lock it down and strip search everyone, stop and frisk, or whatever else paranoid zealots want to dream up. Unbelievable. As far as I'm concerned every single administrator who voted for this should have their houses, vehicles and persons searched for drugs, weapons and contraband and then be fired on the spot for incompetence.
COMMENT 317667	2012-09-08 02:27 PM
Putting the fear of authority into students is not conducive to learning. This turns my stomach. I would have quit school if this was happening when I was in high school.
COMMENT 317692P	2012-09-08 03:24 PM
what about children who have to deal with a parent, guardian, sibling or family member with drug problems. is proximity to drug use enough to raise the "residue" flag? this could be very damaging to a student's social image, psychology and emotional stability. it also sounds like a very expensive endeavor, drug dogs with highly specialized training and their handlers don't come cheap. who is paying for these screenings?
COMMENT 317696	2012-09-08 03:32 PM
The innocent have nothing to fear.
YIN YANG	2012-09-08 03:43 PM
Do the dogs alert on gunpowder or bullets? I can wish...
COMMENT 317710	2012-09-08 03:50 PM
The only students that need be "offended" are the offenders. You won't be searched for being with someone who drank beer, that's a funny thought. If you are hanging out with druggies who smoke dope etc. maybe this will be a wake up call before you destroy your life and your parents life. Be glad if one teen life is saved from addiction or death by this enforcement in the schools. I would give up every "right" I had as a student to see one fellow student/friend saved from a life of addiction.
COMMENT 317714	2012-09-08 03:56 PM
648P: No matter WHO said the quote about freedom & security, it's true. And just because a search is "announced", that makes it "reasonable"? Could the police announce that they are going to stop every person that comes out of Macy's, and pat them down to make sure they didn't shoplift? As long as they announce it over the intercom first? A violation of the 4th Amendment is a violation of the 4th Amendment.
COMMENT 317630P	2012-09-08 04:13 PM
636: Not doubting that it _is_ Franklin's "quote," although a bit garbled as you have it, (_reread_ what I wrote maybe), but my point stands: Situations vary. We're not talking about forced strip-searches at Macy's or some such made-up, hypothetical, we're talking about a _particular issue_, searching for drugs in a public school after informing/reminding students that it's illegal/against policy to have them on campus. There's no Fourth Amendment violation here. Do you have kids? Are you perhaps a student who feels hassled or wronged? This is not an _unreasonable_ search as defined by the Fourth Amendment. Google "Fourth Amendment" and read something, not _just_ the Wiki article, about its intent and application if you're going to use it as some sort of rationalization for your attempts to argue this..
COMMENT 317665	2012-09-08 04:30 PM
@710 Giving up all or any of your rights will not save anyone from addiction. On the other hand, standing up for your rights will benefit you and any friends who may be leaning towards addictions by offering you a chance to be a part of the game called Democracy, where you have to reassert your freedoms regularly lest they be abscounded by special interests. Don't be so quick to throw away that which was fought for by millions of heroic veterans, namely, your rights. We earned each and every one of them for you with blood, sweat and tears. Just as a tip, it wasn't so people could waste it all by handing over all of these rights to any Tom who says it's a good plan. We were hoping these rights would stick, and last a long time, so we wouldn't have to go out there again to get them back, which turns out to be a real pain in the...pick a body part. I apologise for any offense caused by these somewhat strong remarks, but that's what you get from a veteran. .
COMMENT 317714	2012-09-08 04:49 PM
It will never cease to mystify me how citizens will fall to their knees and willingly, even eagerly, give up their Constitutional rights and civil liberties to government in the name of a so-called “greater purpose”. Scary. Like the veteran posted, far too much blood has been shed to earn us those rights that we so quickly relinquish. P.S. Thank you, Mr. or Mrs. Veteran, for securing those rights for us. And to whoever posted about “belligerent ghouls”, bravo. Next they’ll be doing the military two-step down the napes of our necks.
COMMENT 317730	2012-09-08 04:51 PM
My daughter attended the same assembly and her only comment on the issue was about how cute the dog was. She said he spent most of the time on stage playing with a doggy toy....
COMMENT 317734	2012-09-08 04:55 PM
That's disappointing.
COMMENT 317736	2012-09-08 05:00 PM
The rights you refer to are for adults......and all children have a right to be in a drug, alcohol, and weapon free school. Unfortunately, there is a need to legally remove students who CHOOSE to break the law and bring ILLEGAL items to school. The stoners and gangsters alike infringe on those students who want to learn by creating disruptions and just plain acting stupid. I look forward to fewer interruptions from both groups. This is a legal way to try to identify only law breaking individuals. And, just an fyi...teachers and admins can be drug tested at any time. If the dog hits on an adult, then that adult will have to suffer the consequences too.
COMMENT 317737	2012-09-08 05:01 PM
Never smoked or brought pot on campus, wasn't that stupid. However, if I wore my jacket to school the day after smoking with some friends, I would have been searched/punished. I was also a straight A student and a member of the NHS every year in high school. At my heightened age, I don't think kids should smoke weed, but I think punishing those that have doesn't do anything but give them less motivation to actually be good kids. Aside from my occasional high times, I never got in trouble or did anything stupid or outlandish. The parents and administrators are going to lose kids if they don't at least attempt to show a little bit of trust. Its a two way street, I'm surprised they still haven't figured that out.
COMMENT 317623	2012-09-08 05:09 PM
Not sure veterans thought they were fighting for the right of drug dealers/ users to peddle their poison to the veterans descendants. I'm pretty sure both of my Marine grandfathers would come out of their graves if they found out their grand daughter was being given heroin, coke, pot, acid, meth or any other drugs at school. And I don't think they would be thinking about rights when their American flag draped dead bullet riddled bodies had to go back into service and clean out their granddaughters school so she could learn in the safe environment. It's a fight between right and wrong and drugs are wrong and have no rights.
COMMENT 317740	2012-09-08 05:18 PM
The United States of America: Where Children Have No Rights (according to TRACY314)
COMMENT 317714	2012-09-08 05:22 PM
Sorry Tracy, minors have equal & absolute protection under the Bill of Rights. What on earth makes you think that the Constitution doesn't apply to anyone under 18?? Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
COMMENT 317742P	2012-09-08 05:24 PM
Let me get this straight. The schools are short of money and cutting programs and classes and this is what they choose to spend money on. Give me a break. Really glad my kids are grown and out of school - all 3 graduated from DP - and very glad my grandkids are not in the Santa Barbara School District.
COMMENT 317744	2012-09-08 05:26 PM
For those of you who don't do drugs or bring them to school you have nothing to worry about.For those who do wah, wah, sniffle, sniffle,call your mommy.
COMMENT 317745	2012-09-08 05:27 PM
Rights?!?! Kids have a curfew. They are not allowed to wear certain clothes. They HAVE TO by law go to school. Don't complain about your rights being violated. If you don't do drugs you have Nothing to worry about.
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-08 06:34 PM
The machine is watching you. Don't pee or poo because the machine is watching you.
COMMENT 317623	2012-09-08 06:48 PM
My child has the right to do what I tell her/him to do and to go to the school I chose. I chose to send him/her to a school that is as free from drugs and distractions as possible. If there are kids that think they have the right to bring their drugs and distractions to school they are wrong. I'm sure the vast majority of parents feel the same way wanting their students to get the best education possible so they'll be prepared for the challenges of adulthood and maybe raising their own family some day. If it takes these measures to root out and rid the campus of drugs and distractions then they have my approval, blessing, ok, vote, or what ever other affirmative acknowledgement needed from me. Many homeless peoples problems begin because of drug use during the high school years. Not to mention the early deaths of so many. I think the next target should be public collages. The same problems occur there.
COMMENT 317766	2012-09-08 07:03 PM
I am outraged that we are paying for drug-sniffing dogs in public schools. Ought there not be "probable cause" before calling in the dogs? For those looking to purify the schools for your kiddies, these same substances were in the schools you attended, and you turned out just fine, right?
COMMENT 317714	2012-09-08 07:04 PM
Sheep. Let your rights be violated because: sheep. What I’m hearing is “I support my kid’s rights being violated because it will protect them.” But nobody is talking about the elephant in the room: How does another student possessing drugs effect your kids?? Are you afraid that if another kid has drugs, your kid will take them? If so, that belies a larger problem, namely the choices your kid is making, that needs to be addressed. But, if you trust your kids to not do drugs, it shouldn’t be a problem. At least not enough of a problem to violate their civil rights. Do you trust your kids or not???
COMMENT 317730	2012-09-08 07:33 PM
The cost of the drug sniffing dog has been paid for by an anonymous donor. He will be used at all four high schools. If you Google the dog's name - Skeeter - you can read several articles on the program. As one principal said "The right of a school administrator to ensure a safe campus trumps the privacy rights of a minor." The drugs of today are stronger, deadlier, and more widespread than anything we may have used in the 70s or 80s. I'd just as soon my kid not be in class with someone who has meth in their backpack.
COMMENT 317779	2012-09-08 07:33 PM
This is from the aclu website: Interesting reading... Searches of the general student population To search the student population as a whole, school officials must have a general suspicion of wrongdoing. This means that a school official may search students and their belongings at random even if he has no precise evidence that a specific student has broken the law or school rules. Searches without individualized suspicion are legal when: the student’s interest in privacy is weak; the search does not intrude unreasonably on that interest; the school has legitimate safety concerns, usually regarding drugs or weapons. and..I was wrong in the way that I stated minors are without rights...
COMMENT 317665	2012-09-08 07:34 PM
OMG there may be some drugs at school. OK. What to do? Rip open every kids backpack and locker at will? Arrest the entire student body? I'm not buying the argument that drugs are ruining our schools. I would put forth that some administrators may think that kids are to blame. No. Kids won't learn to think for themselves in a military lockdown. They need fresh air for fresh ideas and innovation, which drive our economy in the long run. Using? Get off your high horses, everyone uses. Pharms, pot, alcohol, etc. I think most people agree the etc. part needs to be controlled. The rest is hypocricy, even for goodie-two-shoes, who frequently turns out to be questionable character themselves. Pre-addiction tendencies need to be addressed by parents, counselors and advocates, not cops and lawyers and prison guards. Oh, are you a stone-cold-sober-perfect-athletic-flawless specimen? Sorry. Get off my lawn anyway.
COMMENT 317714	2012-09-08 08:08 PM
718P: "We're not talking about forced strip-searches at Macy's or some such made-up, hypothetical"... I did NOT mention "forced strip-searches at Macy's", i mentioned pat-downs, which is not made-up or hypothetical, it is EXACTLY in line with the drug-dog searches at local schools. PLEASE don't mis-state my analogies for your own purposes. Thanks. We might need to agree to disagree on this point...
COMMENT 317623	2012-09-08 08:14 PM
Let's see, first week of SBHS 2012. 18 yr. old non student arrested on campus with a pocket full of cocaine and a knife. 2nd week 17 yr. old student off campus during school hours with an 18 non student are stopped. 18 year old felon has a loaded pistol and extra bullets in his other pocket. 3rd week starts soon. I hope the dogs are sniffing and the kids are safe. If you hit up the addiction meetings and the homeless shelters and ask if everything turned out ok in there lives I'm sure you would here get drugs out of the schools and away from the kids. And if you could talk to dead OD victims you'd hear the same thing. It's not that I don't trust my kid, I don't trust the kid with drugs and guns in their pocket.
COMMENT 317810	2012-09-08 08:37 PM
SBHS has issues sure... but to start demonstrating a "police line up" mentality of the presumed accused only to further bless a society driven by fear, really makes me sad. Reminds me of a song, "They are gonna build a prison, they are gonna build a prison, for you and me to live in."
COMMENT 317836	2012-09-08 10:12 PM
Thanks Kelsey! You have given Edhatters lots to talk and fume about. I appreciate you!
COMMENT 317839P	2012-09-08 11:58 PM
Thanks for this post! Tough call for me as I do believe the school has the right to employ law enforcement on their property. However, if a K-9 discovers contraband in a students vehicle and that student is pulled out of class, it still impacts their learning. Even if they smoke a joint at least they're in class.
COMMENT 317860	2012-09-09 07:14 AM
It has already been noted, but I want to reiterate that strip searches are not conducted on students. Students empty their own pockets and their bags are searched. As for "residual odor"...the student writer must have not been listening when it was emphasized that a student would only be held accountable IF they were found to be in possession of drugs or weapons OR if they were found to be UTI at the time.
COMMENT 317864P	2012-09-09 07:28 AM
Sounds like a discipline problem in our public school system? Just want to be clear what the problem really is, not the symptoms and/or cures and fixes by the government. Private school with discipline for my kids, thanks!
COMMENT 317630P	2012-09-09 07:50 AM
636: It was not my intention to misquote you, just to extend the metaphor, so to speak. (As I assume you're doing in other of your comments which mention "sheep" or a "military two-step." I don't think most people see things as quite so dire.) I honestly don't see how a hypothetical pat-down, at Macy's or elsewhere, is analogous (or "exactly in line") with drug searches at public schools. One situation is constitutionally "unreasonable," the other is not. I assume, perhaps wrongly, that you don't have school-age children? I too am over and out on this and agree that we will likely always disagree on this issue and its interpretation.
COMMENT 317623	2012-09-09 08:35 AM
NO DRUGS OR WEPONS AT SCHOOL!! If they have to do drugs let them hang out at Chase Palm Park, lower State St., Needle Stick, Any of the Baseball fields, or wherever else the adult users are. Maybe that would have a positive effect on the kids seeing how life could be panhandling and hanging out at Casa Esperanza every day. Scared straight?
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-09 10:22 AM
This is just another example of school administrators failing. They've failed to provide a good environment for education and their scrambling in a panic to do something about it so they call in third party security companies at a great expense to further disrupt the process of getting a decent education. It's costing you and I tax money for school administrators to turn the education system upside down.
COMMENT 317623	2012-09-09 10:45 AM
@317905 I disagree. I see it as school administrators reacting to the failure of some parents and government to stop the decline of society. This is a problem that started very small decades ago and gets worse as time goes on with no sign of stopping. Every year there are newer and more powerful drugs infiltrating our schools and end up in our children's body's. I applaud school administrators for drawing a line of defense around the schools and saying NO MORE!!! We're going to do whatever it takes to make sure this crap isn't in the schools. I can't believe there is even and argument about it. Seems like a no brainer to me. This action will save lives and deter bad guys.
COMMENT 317920	2012-09-09 10:53 AM
They should teach a class on the Constitution of the United States then bring in the drug dogs... after they explain to the children why this is not a free country. We are not a country of laws. We are a country that values fear and ignorance over the virtues of the US Constitution. That's the lesson here...But the kids already know that we live in a police state and that Freedom from persecution is a myth.
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-09 11:05 AM
"Every year there are newer and more powerful drugs infiltrating our schools" What new and more powerful drugs are you referring to 920? Angel Dust, LSD, Crack, Ecstasy, prescription pain killers like Oxy-C, cocaine, heroin, meth, sniffing solvents, pot, synthetic semi-legal drugs? Those have ALL been around for DECADES! The fear mongers want the masses to believe that the schools are being infiltrated with "newer and more powerful drugs."
COMMENT 317745	2012-09-09 12:48 PM
For those arguing about violation of rights, how would you respond to our current system of getting on commercial flights? Seems to me the drug dogs and screening we have to go through are similar, but I could be wrong.
COMMENT 317949	2012-09-09 01:21 PM
We had to rely on public schools, where my kid couldn't use the restrooms for fear of stepping into a drug deal or coming out smelling like some kind of smoke. And being in class with kids who are high or strung out is not conducive to learning. The whole school being disrupted for a major drug sting and bust is not conducive either. The schools have a right and a duty to enforce the laws. LAWS, people, not "school policy". Every child has a right to be educated in a school where laws are enforced. Bring the dogs. Pull kids out of class, do it with discretion. If they have residue by innocent association with a family member who uses, provide counselling. Suspend kids who come to school under the influence. Expel those that possess, use & deal at school. Think of how much smaller the classes might be and how much better the quality of education for those who don't do drugs would be if we kicked the users and dealers out...
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-09 01:30 PM
The problem is that these types of "solutions" don't solve anything. When I was in highschool in the 80's - they had undercover narcotics officers. The narcotics officers were young and would be enrolled as students. The school and law enforcement also did periodic random locker searches. The narcs would come through and do a sweep and disrupt everything and arrest a few people - and then guess what - the drugs would be available a week or two later. It doesn't solve anything except for maybe a week or two. Don't punish the good to try to get rid of the bad. These things are more of a disruption to learning than they are a solution to keeping "bad things" out of schools.
COMMENT 317623	2012-09-09 03:21 PM
So in for the sake of protecting the bad guys nothing should be done and we should give up and let thing continue to let things deteriorate. I'm shocked that so many comments almost sound as if it's no big deal that there are drugs and weapons in the school. Why even have school? May as well just close them down if everyone is going to be under the influence, carrying weapons, and not learning. Why spend the money if the job isn't being performed right? And so many here are frustrated with the homeless and troublemaker's is SB. Where do you think it starts? This mentality and erosion of morals is the root cause of misery in our country. Maybe our society is to lazy and selfish to fix it.
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-09 04:04 PM
Put more cops on the streets - not on schools. Problem is that ALL of these small time gangsters are tied to the Mexican Mafia. That is a fact. That is where the drugs come from. Your state can't even contain the Mexican Mafia in prisons - how do you expect them to be contained in your schools. This is just an attempt to provide the "illusion of safety" which was originally propogated by the Bush crime family through the Department of Homeland Security. They want to make you feel it's ok for everybody to be in prison - mainly because the US has more people in the prison system than any other country.
COMMENT 317737	2012-09-09 04:09 PM
Imagine the outcry of these "proactive" parents and administrators if their car was sniffed by a police dog at every traffic stop.
COMMENT 317623	2012-09-09 04:50 PM
Imagine the praise the proactive parents and administrators will receive when drop out rates fall, grades rise, and teen depression is reduced.
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-09 05:05 PM
012 This type of action in any high school has never brought about the results you describe "drop out rates fall, grades rise, and teen depression is reduced." Why would it now? Because the dog is cute?
COMMENT 318019P	2012-09-09 05:07 PM
This thread is shocking. Tough to fathom anyone would prefer their kid be in school with potheads packin' heat than for there to be random checks. For those who do, what, in your opinion, are better ways to curb teen drug use? Tis a pity the need for this discussion exists.
COMMENT 318029	2012-09-09 05:36 PM
@318018 Really? That is actually not true. Why post when you don't know? Sounds like you have a much better idea on how to solve these import problems. I would love for you to enlighten us with your divine wisdom and infinite knowledge in this matter and describe the best way to get drugs and weapons out of the schools. Please.
COMMENT 318031	2012-09-09 05:51 PM
@318019P I agree. It is disturbing that some of the comments actually seem to condone drugs on campus and others just seem to want to give up as if there's no hope in the matter. Odd. Drug cartel propaganda?
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-09 06:10 PM
029 - show me some results. All the schools problems are solved because rin tin tin came on campus and busted a few kids? Wow.
COMMENT 318040	2012-09-09 06:30 PM
My kid goes to SBHS. I asked her how she felt about this. She's proud to be drug-free, gets great grades, as do her friends. She likes this. She's tired of smelling pot smoke when they do the mile run, and she's sick of kids coming high to class. I would have resented being sniffed, but if she and other kids feel safer because of it, and it works to get drugs out of the school, I am all for it. For the straight kids, trying to get an education, why wouldn't we go all out to give them the best possible environment in which to do so? I too am tired of people condoning drugs on campus. What you tolerate, you promote.
COMMENT 318057P	2012-09-09 07:31 PM
Let's propose random searches and blood tests at SBSO, SBPD and the DA's office. Violating the civil rights of the next generation of decision-makers is an excellent means of alienating them and creating a generation opposed to a corrupt police state. It's not compatible with education, but San Marcos 2011 STAR test results in science were below those for SB county special ed prior to this program. Maybe the new construction will help.
COMMENT 317745	2012-09-09 07:41 PM
I agree with the above poster. I guess a lot of people don't fly on commercial airlines.
SCEPTIC	2012-09-09 07:52 PM
Drug laws and cops don't reduce drug use. They never have and they never will, and the statistics are based on data collected by the U.S. government. The only people who benefit are law enforcement-related agencies and drug cartels, and they're the only knowledgeable people who advocate this violation of civil rights. It's good job security in times like this when crime rates are down. The US has the most punitive drug laws in the world, the highest rates of drug use, 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's incarcerated population. http://billmoyers.com/2012/05/30/infographic-u-s-incarceration-rates/ Libertarian Gary Johnson for president and retired federal prosecutor, Orange County Superior Court Judge, and Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (Leap.cc) activist Jim Gray for vice president.
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-09 07:53 PM
How willingly the sheep will follow for having a cup of feed tossed their way. Amazing how anyone will let their rights under the constitution go so easily - because they are comfortable sitting home, getting fat in front of a widescreen, with the door locked - so everything is ok. Great way to live.
COMMENT 317623	2012-09-09 08:05 PM
Is there a drug and weapons problem at the SBSO, SBPD, or DA's office?. I'll bet they already have random testing. I pay a pretty hefty tuition in the form of property taxes for my kid to go to school. Much more than it would cost to go to a private school. I would gladly put her into a private school, that I'd bet would do everything possible to keep a clean and safe campus, if I could stop paying property taxes. But until then I expect a clean and safe public school environment for MY money.
COMMENT 317745	2012-09-09 08:11 PM
057p where are you getting your stats from.
COMMENT 318087	2012-09-09 08:29 PM
I wish all of the right's complainers would turn their focus on the bad guys that ARE violating our right to peace and prosperity by poisoning and distracting our children in school. If they would stop, then there wouldn't be an issue. But since they won't willingly we have to force them. The good guys are the studying and enjoying high school. The bad guys are distracting and poisoning the good guys. So the bad guy's need to stop and become good guy's or leave the school. What kind of drug feed do I need to throw the way of the drug sheep to get them to leave? Not sure what the overweight couch widescreen door thing is about. Life's great!
COMMENT 318167	2012-09-10 07:11 AM
Hey punk....GROW UP. It is your JOB to GO TO SCHOOL AND LEARN. Not to get WASTED. Quit smoking weed, become a decent citizen, and you will find that ALL OF A SUDDEN your complaints about police will melt away.
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-10 09:22 AM
The problem is the bad guys are still going to ruin it for the good guys in school. The dog isn't gonna solve a darn thing.
COMMENT 318029	2012-09-10 10:16 AM
Not if the bad guy's are not in the school because of the dog. Chicken or the egg. Dog and plan have to come first.
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-10 10:27 AM
282 Show me another school where it was successful. Seen it before, whether it be dogs, narcs, suprise inspections whatever. The drugs and weapons always get back in.
COMMENT 317623	2012-09-10 10:45 AM
Show me another school where doing nothing kept drugs and weapons out. Your solution is give up? When your tire goes flat do you abandon the car? If your roof leaks do you just hope it won't rain? When your child is sick do you do you not take him/her to the doctor? When drugs and weapons show up at your kids school do you ignore it?
COMMENT 318298	2012-09-10 10:54 AM
And the School District chooses to wastes money on this while asking us to vote for parcel taxes because they're so broke. Not to mention the amount of classroom instruction time that was lost schoolwide for these assemblies. If you've ever complained that schools budgets are harmed by top-heavy administration and bureaucratic red tape, this is a prime example of how our scarce education dollars are being spent on things that have nothing to do with teaching kids.
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-10 12:26 PM
Who said do nothing? Did anyone say do nothing?
COMMENT 318087	2012-09-10 01:04 PM
Teaching kids is part of the schools responsibility. The other is the children's safety and providing an clean environment for learning. I don't know any detail on the operating costs of the school or how efficiently their money is spent. Considering the track record of other government entities I'd have to guess they don't do well. I'd love to hear some other solutions and idea's to fix this problem. Anybody??
COMMENT 318347	2012-09-10 01:22 PM
Many of the statements in this thread show that our schools have been failing to teach our children about the Constitution and our rights as Americans. Sad. To every person here who is willing to give up freedom for supposed security, you need to go back to school and pay attention this time.
COMMENT 317623	2012-09-10 01:44 PM
In this particular situation I see it as increasing school security to maintain our freedom. No different than the need at times to increase border security from foreign invasion. Just think of the schools as a smaller sovereign entity doing what it takes to prevent drugs and weapons from entering it's boarders. Do you feel violated coming through customs and showing your passport, maybe having your luggage searched and seeing drug dogs? I'd STILL love to hear some alternative ideas. The bad guys are violating our rights, not the people trying to get the bad guys out.
COMMENT 318413	2012-09-10 04:25 PM
Kelsey who told you it was a human right to engage in illegal activities? Regardless of how you feel about those laws it does not negate them and society, along with school personnel, have every right to uphold/enforce the law. You are free do to anything you choose.... just be prepared to pay/suffer the consequences. It's the second half of that saying you teens forget to include in your narrative.
COMMENT 317621	2012-09-10 05:16 PM
So, some good honest kids, like the OP, didn't like how it went down. Just because one of your sons are daughters thought the dog was cute, doesn't mean everyone felt the same way.
COMMENT 317623	2012-09-10 05:36 PM
318430 Huh?

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