CORKY
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2012-09-08 09:25 PM |
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875 What does caring about the environment have to do with gang activity? Every time there's a criminal activity, someone denounces tree huggers.
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COMMENT 317381
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2012-09-07 04:40 PM |
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@317354 Thanks for sharing. That type of predator are a dime a dozen out there. He sounds similar to Andrew Luster. I remember that guy hunting the down town bar's in the 90's and pulling a couple of over intoxicated girls away from him and sending them home in cab's. My daughter just started high school and I'm PANICKING with this news. She told me about some sophomore's sporting neck tat's and sleeve tat's witch isn't new to me but the people I remember with tat's in high school didn't end up doing to well in life. In fact a lot lost their lives. I hope they keep up the pressure and keep the schools as clean as possible.
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COMMENT 317354
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2012-09-07 03:14 PM |
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Say all you want about Brandon Gaffke, I new the kid, the teenager, and the drug addicted, tatted out, drug dealer, who who gets young girls hooked on dope and treat them like trash, as well as sell a lot of weight. I was housed with him before he went to prison and all he talked about is getting little 18 yo college girls hooked on dope and having wiping out the girls bank account. He is a punk,nice if you are living that lifestyle because he will break you off some,but a complete hazard to our town.Before he got into the drugs he was fun,after I cut off our relations because he went completely the wrong way.I should have beat him down in jail,listening to that crap coming out of his mouth is sickening.Yeah I hope he comes out of prison and changes,he got his neck tats removed when he had a kid but didn't change his ways.Sex with 18yo olds and getting them hooked was his M.O., worthless trash,claiming to be a proud White man but polluting our people.
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COMMENT 317381
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2012-09-07 12:24 PM |
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That mindset is everywhere in this town. Sy you must have a huge amount of patience to live down town. I gave up down there about 10 years ago. Over my lifetime it just got continually more crowded and dangerous. After my car being vandalized or broken into a few times and being intimidated by bad guys it didn't seem like it would get better but only worse. So i figured the bad guys had won and that I would leave. It was hard with all of the good memories I had growing up there. But I've been happy in my new quiet area in the foothills of Carp. I come into SB occasionally and am shocked at how bad things have gotten and continue to get.
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COMMENT 317266
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2012-09-07 11:05 AM |
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I live downtown, 258. Just a few blocks off State. :)
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COMMENT 317258
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2012-09-07 10:53 AM |
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SY and his/her mindset, along with those that share similar views, is the reason SB is dealing with vagrants, bangers and other social issues that are out of control. I wish they would come off their hilltop home and deal with these issues as the rest of us down in the low lands...
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COMMENT 317209P
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2012-09-07 09:30 AM |
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@ 911 His name is Brandon Gaffke. He was not a bad guy, he just got in over his head with drugs. I hope he comes out of prison o.k. and stays away from meth. http://crimevoice.com/seven-month-hunt-for-drug-dealer-ends-in-santa-barbara-3813/
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COMMENT 317381
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2012-09-07 08:27 AM |
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I'm sure this won't be the last time. We get this kind of news from the high school. Cell phones and the garbage on the internet can contribute negatively to how these kids grow up. I agree it's the parents responsibility raise their kids, organize the schools with teachers they like, and elect politicians that will do a good job.
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COMMENT 317129
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2012-09-07 06:22 AM |
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Interesting thread - some here are PC advocates and some are realists - having 3 kids go to SBHS - I can tell you that drugs and gangs are a real and present danger -At this level it is the wild west - we need to Hit the problem head on - and any one that thinks different is living in the PC world - It's all about the money - I have had esk - & wsers in my house for SBHS functions (after a FB game) - kept the peace with a piece of pipe - cops showed up - No one got arrested and no one got hurt -The main problem is the kids have no home life - no direction - no one teaching - right from wrong - the world is their oyster and they are going to harvest it. as far as - Wood Chipper -the comment very funny - But they just need a large dose of doing HARD TIME - As for me - i will at the home game tonight helping to cook and clean up - come join the crowd and have some fun
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COMMENT 317102
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2012-09-06 08:59 PM |
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@096 I couldn't disagree more. It's not the school's job to police, discipline or raise the kids. That's what parents are supposed to do.
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COMMENT 317096
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2012-09-06 08:51 PM |
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Part of the blame needs to fall squarely on the useless teachers and administrators at Santa Barbara High School. These teachers turn a blind eye to infractions of school policy, bend over backwards to accommodate students who can't or won't learn English and shrug their shoulders when the girls become pregnant at 16 and the boys drop out of school to sell drugs.
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ROGER DODGER
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2012-09-06 08:41 PM |
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I started the Wood Chipper thang with Child Molesters in mind. I got brutally molested as a kid and didn't have the normally wonderful life many people have had. If it was legal or their sentence I'd shove them in for free like carrot sticks being shreaded for a salad. I'd do it with a big ear to ear smile on my face and I would not need medication anymore..Yes some people are wired differently and some are tired of being victimazied.
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COMMENT 317080
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2012-09-06 08:05 PM |
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Sad thing is this loser will be on the streets in no time. I think the PD are right in paddign down a known gang member, C'mon folks deal with reality and these issues will be dealt with in our reality.
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COMMENT 317071
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2012-09-06 06:47 PM |
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The Santa Barbara portrayed by the Edhat commentariat doesn't seem particularly tolerant or forgiving. At any rate, I think I'm just wired differently. I don't believe that violence begets violence, that the death penalty should exist or that you should threaten people with death to get them in line. If you think that's the way things should be done... Well, that's fine. But I find that way of thinking pretty odious.
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COMMENT 317102
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2012-09-06 05:45 PM |
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SY, you're too funny. You're going to move somewhere that's LESS forgiving and tolerant than SB? Please let us all know where the imaginary place is. I'm a DEMOCRAT and I want to throw these fu^#@!s in wood chippers too! And, I agree with @921, us law-abiding citizens should be able to legally carry to protect and defend ourselves. How bad do you need it to get before this problem is addressed? And to those making this about race, I could care less what color or race these folks are. As @918 says, bad people come in all colors, creeds, shapes and sizes...
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COMMENT 317045
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2012-09-06 05:28 PM |
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This is why our kids go to DP.
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COMMENT 317031P
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2012-09-06 05:02 PM |
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013 for the win. No foolin' Bravo!
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COMMENT 317013
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2012-09-06 04:36 PM |
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Again with the above the neck tattoo. I am tellin' ya, just arrest all the folks comin' outta the parlor with ink north of the adams apple!
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COMMENT 317381
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2012-09-06 04:27 PM |
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18 with a loaded pistol in his pocket sounds pretty wild west-ish to me. I guess they weren't sooting heroin in the wild west but they were smoking opium. Maybe a deterioration into a modern wild west? No mater the moment in time one thing never changes, people that that want to brake the law and aren't afraid to do so will. Good honest people shouldn't be afraid of criminals. Criminals SHOULD be afraid of the CONSEQUENCES of committing crime. Consequences need to act as a deterrent to committing crime. Financial, incarceration, labor, physical, deportation, or whatever works until you get to the point where crime is low and mutual respect for one another is high. Right now we're going in the opposite direction and have been for years.
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COMMENT 317005
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2012-09-06 04:16 PM |
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947- you always bring up brandon in posts like this stating something like "look white people do it too" and then put incorrect info. He was never the main distributor or supplier in SB. He only sold to support his habit. He didn't pay off his bail with drug money. And when he was out on bail he hung out with the wrong people and got re arrested. He was never open for business the same day. He's now doing 8+ years.
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COMMENT 317002P
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2012-09-06 04:10 PM |
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Yeah, what's with the bird poop on the left side of his face? Counldn't someone have cleaned off before the photo?
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COMMENT 316993
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2012-09-06 04:01 PM |
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Oxymoron - Santa Barbara Gang
it must be tough growing up in the most beautiful place in the world getting free handouts that the only way out is joining a gang - get real - send these morons off to a 3rd world country to get some perspective so that they can appreciate what they have vs. complain how bad they have it
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COMMENT 316960
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2012-09-06 03:16 PM |
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hey dude, you got a little mascara goop on your left cheek...
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COMMENT 317031P
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2012-09-06 02:52 PM |
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At least that tat on his left cheek will allow the cops to spot him easily when he's back out on the streets and thugging around again. Wonder if the "ladies love it?"
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COMMENT 317354
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2012-09-06 02:47 PM |
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Like 913 said, it isn't just racial designated to Hispanics.The serious crimes and dealers in town cross all color barriers. I remember when they arrested Brandon Gaffne, a old friend as a kid, who was the main distributor and supplier of Meth and Heroin in SB.Not only did they let him out on 1million bail he paid in drug money, he was open for business the same day. These are the guys they need to put away, heavy drug pushers and a no tolerance for gangs.Gangs here happen to be Hispanic,and if their role models are guys who put in work or did prison time then it will be a revolving door.Parents work and they have no one to mold them into adulthood except their shot callers in town.We use public funds for programs and deterrents that don't work,we need to give officers a gang injunction and the right to search and arrest known serious criminals in town,regardless of race.Parolees/probationers,and transients should be at the top of the list,check ID's, be proactive.
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COMMENT 316946
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2012-09-06 02:46 PM |
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Being pissed off doesn't mean you should advocate violence. What is this, the Wild West? I think I need to move somewhere where people aren't so quick to suggest killing others as a retribution for their crimes, real or imagined.
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COMMENT 316943
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2012-09-06 02:38 PM |
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Race card finally pulled! That took longer than expected.
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COMMENT 316940
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2012-09-06 02:30 PM |
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937 You delivered a long paragraph to get people reading and then waited for the last sentence to drop your punch line. Well played.
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COMMENT 316937
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2012-09-06 02:19 PM |
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You know I've lived in gang member territory a long time now and I have never been harassed.What has me more concerned is the massive amounts of transients, I have literally had one try to get in my car, I've had my backside grabbed, I've been cursed at, they are out of control and no one seems to care. I'am genuinely scared for my life or that I may be raped someday, carjacked, kidnapped, and NOT by a gang member. In fact the time I spent living next door to a good amount of them I learned they are more for protecting people and going after child molesters, rapist and creeps. They were actually very nice to me. I actually felt safe, weird. I don't feel safe with all the new pedophiles, junkies, career robbers, and who knows what else. NO ONE (besides Roger) is interested in who these people are. let these unknown creeps run our streets, cruise around the parks and schools. Obviously it's a racial thing.
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COMMENT 316922
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2012-09-06 01:54 PM |
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We all know we have problems with gangs in this town. How to get rid of them is a problem .What can we do to deter these losers.They want everyone to think there the king,big macho man,head pin.top gang banger. They walk around terrorizing the younger kids with the drugs and guns and the likes. They think nothing of killing soneome, stealing a car or breaking the law.Education hasn't worked for them or talking to there parents or relatives doesn't work. writing them citations doesn't do anything either. . Nothing else is working.... I imagine the police are pretty frustrated in arresting the same thugs every week.. They even know them by name...and every alias. What a waste of time and money for what some kid trying to look like He's the big man.Wood chipper sounds better than nothing
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COMMENT 316940
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2012-09-06 01:50 PM |
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Make it legal to conceal and carry - there would be a lot of high profile incidents at first - but over time the bad guys would be quieted and in Forest Lawn.
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COMMENT 317381
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2012-09-06 01:47 PM |
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This is the effect of all of this crime on me and the understanding that to stop it will require drastic and cheap measures. What's wrong with them? They don't fear anything. They need to learn to fear breaking the law and being bad. Bad people suck no matter what they do. Rich, poor, light, dark, fat, skinny, pretty, or ugly. The whole spectrum. Crime is getting worse here and needs to be stopped. Any better ideas that would work? Talking softly and understanding doesn't seem to be working and is surprisingly expensive. Got to protect the kids cuz once they're damaged it's very difficult to repair them. GOOD teachers can manage a rubber band fight but nowadays our schools need a swat team to protect them. Thats why Sy. We are pissed.
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COMMENT 316916
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2012-09-06 01:43 PM |
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I don't understand why Ramirez was patted down... after it was determined that he wasn't a student and therefore wasn't truant, why would it be legal to get a pat down? Seems like a stretch. Of course I'm glad he was arrested, but I don't think police acted within their rights.. bc he was walking near SBHS?
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COMMENT 317354
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2012-09-06 01:38 PM |
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Having grown up here and attending SBJH and SBHS in the late 90's, never did gangs pose a serious threat to community as they do now. I knew plenty of ES and WSers through sports, having a uncle and friends who on the ES, and never were there so many packing guns as there are now. I am White and got jumped a few times at night walking in their side of town, but never saw the the violence they impose on each other,i.e. other gangs, the drug control of neighborhoods, and the stealing or charging the gangs enforce to local businesses to operate on Milpas and San Andreas in order to not be harassed. This is just one more example of how bad it has got, a direct result by not ordering a gang injunction, and not letting these gang members congregate and control the streets. Cam Sanchez is impartial to Hispanics and is doing an injustice, putting innocent people at risk. When is enough?
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COMMENT 316905
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2012-09-06 01:23 PM |
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Glad to see SBPD making their presence known. But we're never going to arrest our way out of the problem. In addition to deterrence programs, the City needs to consider opening up the east and west sides to new development, larger, single family houses and office buildings. Tear down the slums and hovels where these scumbags live and price them out of the market.
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COMMENT 316896
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2012-09-06 01:15 PM |
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Reasons why kids join gangs??? Why see.... blaming society and being an apologist for this great country that is America. heheheh... sorry, I had to try that suit on for size but it's too constricting especially around the arms and legs.
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COMMENT 316895
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2012-09-06 01:14 PM |
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Gangstas walking around with buds, pipes and needles today too. It is not your grand-father's spit-ball contest in the schools any longer because this sort of gangsta behavior is celebrated as cool across the land. Like those values? if they weren't so widely tolerated, this would not be happening so frequently.
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COMMENT 316886
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2012-09-06 01:00 PM |
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We will never end the gang problem until we deal with the reasons why kids join gangs.
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COMMENT 316885
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2012-09-06 12:59 PM |
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GREAT JOB SB PD!! Thank you so much for hitting this real hard. Santa Barbara DOES have a very serious gang and drug problem. This is probably the most effective way to control the problem. These kinds of patrols should be done randomly, each month at each highschool in town. Protecting our school kids has to be our TOP PRIORITY
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COMMENT 316881P
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2012-09-06 12:55 PM |
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Geez..when I went to SBHS we had rubber band fights. That was it. Now gangstas walking around with loaded pistols.
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COMMENT 316877
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2012-09-06 12:49 PM |
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What is with this constant talk of throwing criminals into wood chippers? What is wrong with you people?
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COMMENT 316895
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2012-09-06 12:45 PM |
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All we have to do is stop electing the tree-huggers and the gang-huggers and the drug-huggers and the transient-huggers. Send the new message none of this is welcomed or tolerated in this town. We stand for community values far better than this.
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COMMENT 316867
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2012-09-06 12:37 PM |
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Our town sucks now! It's not worth the money.
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COMMENT 316865
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2012-09-06 12:32 PM |
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Hey Cam! Just in case you didn't know it because you have your head stuck in the sand, we have a Gang problem here in Santa Barbara. Why don't you just admit it and then DEAL with it!
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COMMENT 316864
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2012-09-06 12:29 PM |
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Stay classy...
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