COMMENT 317178P
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2012-09-07 08:38 AM |
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This decision is as insane as Attias.
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COMMENT 317114P
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2012-09-06 10:41 PM |
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Whatever happened to the possiblity of conviction of 'guilty but insane' as opposed to the 'not guity by reason of insanity'. I know that it was being proposed back in the '80s to deal with this sort of thing.
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COMMENT 317060
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2012-09-06 06:17 PM |
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Whomever is constantly asking for "forgiveness" needs to forgive him/herself for being so judgmental of others.
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COMMENT 316995P
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2012-09-06 04:03 PM |
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962 - I agree - forgive. BUT don't forget and don't let them out where they can do it again.
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COMMENT 316971
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2012-09-06 03:37 PM |
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Money talks, money walks.
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COMMENT 316962
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2012-09-06 03:19 PM |
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it is a good thing to forgive.
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COMMENT 316939
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2012-09-06 02:24 PM |
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He wasn't whacked out on drugs, he chose to go off his meds for whatever reasons crazy people think are valid. In his case, he needs the drugs to keep him reasonably sane. A lot of mentally ill people hate the drugs because of the side effects. Or can't tell that hearing voices in their heads isn't normal so don't think they need them.
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COMMENT 316932
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2012-09-06 02:15 PM |
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907 I am sorry for your memories and thank you for choosing your career field. Its a broken system imagine how many murderers are in Conrep?
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COMMENT 316929
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2012-09-06 02:11 PM |
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Looks like the prosecutors didn't try very hard.... "By contrast, the prosecution presented only one expert witness — Dr. Margaret Hagen — whom Adams described as a “well-paid mental health expert” who testified that “she never personally interviewed David Attias, nor had she had occasion to personally meet with any of the treating mental health professionals for Mr. Attias"
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COMMENT 316917
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2012-09-06 01:45 PM |
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887-I believe you would feel very different if the people he killed were your loved ones.
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COMMENT 316907
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2012-09-06 01:29 PM |
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887..there are some things that cannot be forgiven or forgotten. There are things that you cannot come back from. I was a first responder to the scene - I will never forget what I saw - my heart breaks all over again for the families involved. You cannot imagine how horrific it was......setting him free, regardless of how gradual it may be, was not a wise decision. I hope I am wrong and that we never hear a word about this person again. I hope he never hurts anyone else.
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COMMENT 316887
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2012-09-06 01:03 PM |
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Common folks, you gotta drop the revenge stuff. Attias was wacked out on drugs 11 years ago. He did a horrible thing. It is time to forgive and more forward with your lives. You will not have peace otherwise.
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COMMENT 316995P
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2012-09-06 12:43 PM |
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Public Defender Deedrea Edgar - really - 100% supervised. This is while he is getting from Oxnard to Ventura for treatment and the people at CONREP can decide how much freedom he gets - even to going to school or getting a job? Is that what you call 100% supervised. Tell me Ms Edgar - would you want him living next door to you???
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COMMENT 316861
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2012-09-06 12:26 PM |
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We are scared by these situations. Should we come up with a ballot initiative to redefine terms for aftercare and supervision when someone is released from locked psychiatric care after they've caused deaths? We care about constitutional rights, but mental illness is a corrosive, lifelong condition. We need to balance rights with safety. It's too easy to find cases, especially of young men, who cycle in and out of the social welfare and criminal justice system because of it. The San Francisco Chronicle (search their site sfgatedotcom) did an article on Daniel Dewitt's family after he took a life in the Bay Area and it shows that our current system is not helping anyone--victims, their families, the mentally ill, the public, taxpayers, or the loved ones of the mentally ill.
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COMMENT 316861
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2012-09-06 11:54 AM |
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Does anyone know when or how it is determined at what point he can get a driver's license back, or even buy a gun? Is he forever barred from purchasing a firearm? I am sure eventually he's allowed to drive which is a horrid thought.
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COMMENT 317060
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2012-09-06 11:48 AM |
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Good point. If it takes beyond a reasonable doubt to convict someone of murder; this same standard needs to be put on those who get to go scot free after benefiting from the insanity defense. Only after there is no reasonable doubt they might relapse, should they go free. This ruling sounds like only the much lower preponderance of evidence standard was applied. That sounds like a legal inconsistency in need of repair.
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COMMENT 316939
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2012-09-06 11:03 AM |
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There were 4 lawsuits filed against the murderer and his family back in 2002, but I can't find any info on if they were settled. I wonder where this attitude that mentally ill people cannot be accountable for their actions came from? If we can't tell whether mentally ill people are dangerous or not, once they've proven they are (like, for instance, killing 4 people) then I think society has an interest on keeping them segregated until it can be proven beyond any doubt that they will never be dangerous again. Are the judge and psychiatrist that are letting him out willing to say this, and stand behind it by having him live next door to them?
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COMMENT 316819
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2012-09-06 10:59 AM |
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No kidding, I would be PISSED. It was a tragedy when he murdered them, and it's a tragedy he'll be set free.
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