COMMENT 316118P
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2012-09-04 05:46 PM |
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Is this her convoluted not too humble way of saying "...it was perhaps not the best idea, couldnt gain the support/signatures....but I tried"
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COMMENT 316129
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2012-09-04 06:13 PM |
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I guess "Tax and Spend" is just not getting any traction this election year. Good move, Helene. This was too obviously a tool of the employee unions, anyway. We have to stop pandering to them, if we are going to get our fiscal house back in order. Employee union endorsement or backing is poison this year.
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COMMENT 316133
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2012-09-04 06:21 PM |
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Also note that last year anyone supported by the Unions was not elected. People are waking up regardless of their political affiliation.
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COMMENT 316154P
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2012-09-04 07:10 PM |
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133 but keep in mind that the most vociferous pro-union councilmember is Cathy Murillo who _did_ get elected.
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COMMENT 316163
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2012-09-04 07:30 PM |
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Helene may be a one-term mayor. I am disappointed that she wasn't smarter in putting this proposal forward, building partnerships, and staying following through. SB needs a strong mayor and as much as I like Helene, not sure she is the one.
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COMMENT 316196
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2012-09-04 08:55 PM |
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Hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars given to Casa Esparanza each year; hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars spent on free or heavily subsidized housing for addicts and the homeless; tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars spent on so-called transitional housing. With a track record like that, why on Earth would any voter trust Mayor Schneider with more of their hard-earned money? Santa Barbara, time to make Mayor Schneider and her buddy Das Williams one-term pols!
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COMMENT 316198
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2012-09-04 08:57 PM |
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Cathy is a classic first-year councilmember and new politician. She needed to support this because it gets harder to make a case for unions if there isn't gradual reform. Santa Barbara needs new leadership, and while councilmembers are a start, the city's administration needs a shakeup too. You know, Jim Armstrong's been making $200,000 a year for more than a decade now
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COMMENT 316118P
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2012-09-04 09:01 PM |
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Why turn the tables and make this about any Councilmember other than Helene- this was Helenes baby. It didnt work. End of story.
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COMMENT 316275
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2012-09-05 08:10 AM |
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Cathy Muirillo is correct in principle. That the bargaining over pension and other contract conditions regarding hours, wages, benefits and working conditions are all on the bargaining table. The problem is that the unions on one side of the table buy the votes of politicians on the other side of the table and the public, who must pay the bill, has no fair and adequate representation. That is the problem. The corruption of money politics that often elects unprincipled politicians. Politicians who may only be concerned about re-election or, in cases like Das Williams and others, will seek election to higher office.
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COMMENT 316129
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2012-09-05 08:14 AM |
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Sad thing about Cathy Murillo is while she ran without employee union support, the unions lined up to buy her with a fund-raiser immediately after she was elected and their own union-backed candidates had been rejected. Cathy sold out so early, when she had actually won as an independent. That was a political tragedy and no one can figure out why she needed to do this.
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COMMENT 316281
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2012-09-05 08:23 AM |
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The only unions Cathy ran without were police and fire. She got SEIU, pipefitters, carpenters, education, all the other unions. She's a total union tool. Police and Fire just didn't like her.
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COMMENT 316154P
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2012-09-05 08:36 AM |
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Good point, 312265: Those politicians who accept union money should _recuse_ themselves from all deliberations to do with city employee union salaries. That would include SEIU, Police, Fire. Isn't it unethical to sit on both sides of the table? It certainly looks so for those of us not at the table but paying for the meal.
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COMMENT 316328
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2012-09-05 09:37 AM |
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154P, would you say the same thing about politicians who take lobbying money from private industries and then write the contracts to said private industries?
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COMMENT 316154P
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2012-09-05 03:14 PM |
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SY: I don't know about 154P, but I would say the same thing if you mean "contracts _for_ private industries" rather than "to".
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COMMENT 316516
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2012-09-05 03:30 PM |
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You're right. :)
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COMMENT 316614
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2012-09-05 06:30 PM |
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It sounds like everyone is mostly on the same page about this. The thing that I'd like to see is reasonable, yet substantial pension reform for the public employee unions. Also, I'd like to see MODERATE (there, I said it...) candidates for local public office, meaning they're not bought and sold by the unions, nor do they want to disband them.
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COMMENT 316129
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2012-09-05 06:59 PM |
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Moderate means:
1. Independent, non-partisan, non-union, no special interest agendas to reward
2. No reason to disband unions, but keep arms length when bargaining with them
3. Budget both for both short-term and long term consequences and hold reserves close
4. Don't let threats of bad morale become part of bargaining climate - offer appropriate wages for appropriate job descriptions
5. Foster healthy business climate, but don't sell out city
6. Infrastructure, health and safety are primary city issues
7. Social services are inappropriate city obligations
8. Get out of the city-subsidized housing business
9. Don't use tax dollars to hand out favors to friends
10. Recuse self at the hint of a conflict of interest
11. Audit all city departments for costs and effectiveness of service delivery
12. Improve customer efficiency, responsiveness, courtesies, remember always one is a public servant
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COMMENT 316649
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2012-09-05 07:58 PM |
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What galls me is that Schneider pulled the initiatives without a word of apology to the citizens of Santa Barbara. Since she thought they were such good ideas in the first place, and she obviously doesn't have the courage of her own convictions, it won't surprise me when she registers as a Republican before the next mayoral election, hoping we'll forget. Pay no attention to that woman behind the curtain.
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