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Missing The Target

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COMMENT 295795	2012-07-10 09:39 AM
Politics bought by money!
COMMENT 295799P	2012-07-10 09:44 AM
795 hits it on the head. Sad, but true
COMMENT 295800	2012-07-10 09:46 AM
OP...who is "we"?? "We" have no say what businesses occupy our city, unless "we" pony up the money and start one ourselves.
COMMENT 295802	2012-07-10 09:48 AM
@795 so true so true.. just not for our city but for the whole country...
COMMENT 295809	2012-07-10 09:58 AM
This again? Target and 99-cent only stores are two completely different sizes. Would you like to see a Target downtown creating traffic nightmares? Have any of the people on here whining about the 99 cent store actually been inside of one? Who's the person at edhat who has the ax to grind about Target?
COMMENT 295816	2012-07-10 10:05 AM
800 - "We" have all the say, as we are the one who elect the city officials who constantly deny Target. What do you want? Social services or a Target? The choice has been made.
COMMENT 295819	2012-07-10 10:07 AM
99 cent stores are small and can fit anywhere. Target is massive and brings with it lots if traffic.
COMMENT 295820	2012-07-10 10:08 AM
A 99cent store needs a heck of a lot less space than a Target - that's not exactly a valid comparison (could you imagine a Target in that spot on State?). Target would increase traffic by quite a bit - wherever it goes would need to be a big enough lot size for both the building and the and be able to accommodate the increase in traffic. The reason it was shot down near the airport years ago was mainly because it was in Goleta, but on BS property. So SB would get all the benefits (business in "SB", taxes, etc), but none of the negatives (pollution, traffic, noise, etc). I understood that. I think Target just needs to find the right spot. But dear god, I hope it's soon.
MACSCIDOR	2012-07-10 10:10 AM
(Not a fan of big stores here but) as a viewer of the Public Access TV Channels I have watched some Target-folks give presentations at the City of Goleta Planning Commission. I Googled the topic and found this information: KION Central Coast News_"GOLETA -- A new big-box store may be coming to the Central Coast, but the process of approving a Target in the City of Goleta means lots of changes before an official plan can be presented. .... In the City of Goleta's general plan, big-box stores are not allowed, besides the ones in existence. .... All the planning, reviews and public meetings would take around two to three years to complete."
COMMENT 295825	2012-07-10 10:13 AM
A Target store has been approved by the Goleta City Council last year. The store will be 2 stories and be about 165,000 sq ft..corner of Los Carneros and Hollister. It's probably about 2 years away.
COMMENT 295826	2012-07-10 10:13 AM
Where on state is the 99 cent store?
COMMENT 295800	2012-07-10 10:14 AM
295816 - Name one time. Just one. You can't because it has never happened. Target is not here because Target doesn't want to be here. Period. If and when they decide to come here, they will. Then the pro-Target folks will shut up and the anti-chain-store folks will start screaming. A never-ending cacophony.
COMMENT 295831	2012-07-10 10:18 AM
Target supports hatred and discrimination. They do not belong here.
EZ2	2012-07-10 10:23 AM
July 26... 99cent store opens
COMMENT 295848	2012-07-10 10:31 AM
295831 - No they don't. I suggest you get some up-to-date facts. You are living WAY in the past. Please try reading and leading instead of doing what you are told with blinders on.
COMMENT 295851	2012-07-10 10:34 AM
It sounds like the OP doesn't understand stores are private corporations that decide when/where to place a store. It has nothing to do with politics in this case.
COMMENT 295856	2012-07-10 10:54 AM
The 99cent store is a great place to shop. We go all the way to Lompoc or Santa Maria. They have fresh veggies of Farmers Market quality and some gourmet items that are available to those on a budget, or those of us who like to save money. Best place to go for Christmas and holiday items. All kinds of interesting people shop there, Jay Leno does comedy routines about it and cookbooks dedicated to products stocked by the store have been written about it. Don't knock it until you try it!
COMMENT 295861	2012-07-10 11:07 AM
Target is 2 years away and I am sooooo excited! Let's keep the jobs HERE instead of driving to Oxnard and Ventura to shop! 99 cent store is exciting too, about time! Now if only we could have some family friendly venues like we used to... I'm talking Golf & Fun and go-carts, etc. What about water slides somewhere in Goleta? Seriously, we are all about tourists and not at all about local families. What can we do to help promote those types of companies to come here??
COMMENT 295871	2012-07-10 11:45 AM
816 what does Social Services have to do with a privately owned retail store?? Glad we are expanding our choices here. It's hard to shop locally when what is local leaves us with less choices and often is more expensive.
COMMENT 295878	2012-07-10 12:03 PM
295831, come down off the soapbox. I'm not a fan of Target, but they don't deserve to be maligned, IMHO. "MINNEAPOLIS (March 16, 2011) — Target has been recognized by the Ethisphere Institute as one of the World’s Most Ethical Companies for 2011... The Ethisphere Institute, a leading international business ethics organization, honored Target for implementing upright business practices and initiatives that are instrumental to the company’s success, benefit the community, and raise the bar for ethical standards within the industry. This is the fifth consecutive year that Target has received the award. In addition to being recognized by Ethisphere, Target has again been acknowledged by top industry publications...Awards include: #22 on Fortune list of “Most Admired Companies” #44 on DiversityInc “Top 50 Companies for Diversity®” list #26 on the Corporate Responsibility “100 Best Corporate Citizens” list”
COMMENT 295879	2012-07-10 12:13 PM
because we are trying to keep LA 100 miles south, and nobody wants to wear the same thing as 100 other people. Keep SB weird!
COMMENT 295883	2012-07-10 12:21 PM
Have you actually been outdoors, 879? It's all people wearing the same stuff as everyone else. The boring sameyness of fashion.
ROGER DODGER	2012-07-10 12:27 PM
@831 Hatred and Discrimination is alive and well in Santa Barbara..CLOSE DOWN SILLY HALL AND PUT TARGET IN DE LA GUERRA PLAZA!!!
COMMENT 295816	2012-07-10 12:29 PM
851 - It has everything to do with politics. Target has wanted to build in SB for years and has been constantly denied coming. 871- SB always elects libs who want to give all our money to social projects, rather than allowing big businesses to come in. Get it?
COMMENT 295897P	2012-07-10 12:39 PM
Is there anything at either store worth buying? No, really, Is there?
COMMENT 295871	2012-07-10 12:49 PM
social "projects" and social services are two different things and the "elected officials" are far from supportive of social services. Maybe there are of special interest groups who claim their projects help the society.
COMMENT 295911	2012-07-10 01:19 PM
Wonder if anyone has noticed how it's gone quiet on the Target front? Kind of says it all. Target is a hard core smart business entity. Set up a bunch of hurdles for them and they will calculate the benefits and detriments and go elsewhere. I live in Goleta. Target is worth the drive to me - more than happy to give my hard earned dollars to the VC. The shopping and the service are far better there.
COMMENT 295913	2012-07-10 01:29 PM
Goleta City Manager Daniel Singer said this about the proposed Target, "We are still maybe three years off, assuming that everything goes well and they get approved. The decision makers still have the right to say no" 2/22/2012. As well as, "Assuming we become the owners of the property, we could sell a portion to Target" 6/12/2012. So it sounds like things are still up in the air, and it is possible things could go either way.
COMMENT 295943	2012-07-10 02:27 PM
To answer 897P's question. Yes, I buy my vacuum cleaner bags at the 99cent store. About 75% cheaper than anywhere else and I go through them quickly.
SBALAX	2012-07-10 02:45 PM
We shop weekly at the 99 Cent Only Stores in Oxnard and Camarillo. Great quality berries lately including some wonderful raspberries. 99.99 cents a basket. NO store here in Santa Barbara can beat that price. Also the exact same salad mix that Costco sells for over $5.00. Only 99.99 cents there. I will say that you do need to watch for expiration dates and check the underside of produce containers but you need to do that at Trader Joe's or Gelson's, too.
COMMENT 295848	2012-07-10 02:47 PM
A full 99cent store which employs locals and pays taxes is much better than a trendy overpriced clothes store which can't sell enough to pay the rent and is out of business and now has bums sleeping and peeing in the doorway.
COMMENT 295831	2012-07-10 03:53 PM
Target was caught sending political donations to anti-gay groups AFTER they promised they would never do it again. They can not be trusted. Fool me once...
COMMENT 295998	2012-07-10 04:46 PM
The anti-Target argument that it will bring awful traffic problems is ridiculous. What about the freeway traffic that it will reduce: All the people hopping on the 101 heading to the Targets in Ventura? And the sales taxes that it will bring to our city, instead of the millions of $$ now going to Ventura city, will MORE than make up for a bit more local traffic.
ROGER DODGER	2012-07-10 04:56 PM
OK OK Walmart then...I do love the lovely e-mails I get from fiends "The People of Walmart." I believe one of them to be my otter half I can't wait ...
COMMENT 296007	2012-07-10 05:08 PM
I don't know what I would do without Target. It's one of the reasons why I choose to live in Ventura and not here in SB or Goleta even though my job is in Goleta.
AQUAHOLIC	2012-07-10 05:19 PM
@007.....I only feel that way about Trader Joe's.
ROGER DODGER	2012-07-10 05:34 PM
Yea I love Trader Joes..
REXOFSB	2012-07-10 05:35 PM
@831: That's simply not true. Target did one time contribute $$$ to some political candidate who was anti-gay, but after profoundly apologizing to the gay community, Target put its money where its mouth is and ever since has been contributing LOTS to gay pride events, etc. The most loathesome anti-gay business is Chik-Fil-A, which donates MILLIONS to anti-gay candidates and causes. This uber-evangelical fast-food joint is coming to upper State Street very soon, having taken over Burger King's location. But what can you expect from a business (Chik-Fil-A) whose vice-president is named Bubba? And no, I'm NOT kidding. Yay, Target! Boo, Chik-Fil-A!
COMMENT 295800	2012-07-10 05:49 PM
Cool...Chik-Fil-A instead of Burger King?? That's great. There is no worse fast food on the planet than Burger King. It takes time and effort to make everything you sell taste like crap.
COMMENT 296065P	2012-07-10 06:35 PM
Chick-fil-A or Target have the right to donate to whatever group or candidate they wish. What could be more American than that? If you don't want to shop at them because of their donation history, that is also your right. As for me, I will continue to patronize both companies and can't wait for them to open up here in our community. I especially applaud Chik-Fil-A for their history of supporting family values and wish we had more companies would publicly take such a stand.
COMMENT 296088	2012-07-10 07:46 PM
Publicly take a discriminatory stand against people who have done nothing wrong other than existing, huh? That's some pretty great family values there, 065P. :)
COMMENT 295831	2012-07-10 07:56 PM
i agree SY. what kind of sick society do we live in where people think hatred and discrimination are 'Family Values' shame on you hateful people.
REXOFSB	2012-07-10 07:57 PM
Right on, SY! I keep forgetting that intolerance is a family value.
COMMENT 296095P	2012-07-10 08:08 PM
Response to the person who asked what Target has that is worth buying. Things like bedside lamps with some style and of reasonable quality at a reasonable price ($15-20). Style and OK quality for a reasonable price is difficult to find in most big box stores. Target is an exception in that sense. (I'm NOT a shopper nor a big consumer, but I do notice differences like this when I do have to shop for something I need.)
COMMENT 295998	2012-07-10 08:10 PM
This is America! We can use our dollar-power to either show our support for a product we like, or show our support for a political position we like. And, conversely, use our dollar-power AGAINST a product we dis-like, or a political position we dis-like. That's the power of democracy in action! Bravo!!
COMMENT 295913	2012-07-10 08:42 PM
This is America. Where a big box retailer can plop down a store right next to a university and the students won't have much of a choice to shop anywhere else because all of the competition has disappeared due to the low quality cheap products the giant retailer is offering. That's capitalism in a country controlled by corporate conglomerates.
COMMENT 296118P	2012-07-10 09:09 PM
913: A big box store next to a Uni will hurt the students? Where do they shop now? La Cumbre? Paseo Nuevo? Oh please! And K-Mart as an option is NO option. Count me as another Target fan who drives to Ventura to shop there and at other stores where they have quality goods at reasonable prices.
COMMENT 296118P	2012-07-10 09:11 PM
118P here: My previous comment should have been addressed to 110.
COMMENT 296167	2012-07-11 07:40 AM
Taken a a group, the comments about Target and Chick Fil A supporting anti-gay causes beautifully illustrates the futility of any form of single issue politics. If you truly have one cause which you consider to be "the one" that you judge every politician, issue, and business by, then eventually you will be forced to compromise every other cause, no matter how worthy. I may not like some of the things that these two businesses support, but can anyone point me at a single, solitary business that supports everything that I support and supports nothing that I oppose?
COMMENT 295848	2012-07-11 08:05 AM
295831 - Hatred and discrimination are at the very core (albeit hidden) of EVERY religion in the world. Religion is the true evil that will eventual end mankind.
COMMENT 296183P	2012-07-11 08:08 AM
This has gotten way afield of the OP's question. "We" are not putting a .99 store on State St. The private landlord signed a lease for an approved use. That's how the .99 store came to SB. There is no site on State St. suitable for a store the size of Target, which consumes as much parking as Target, unless perhaps the Macy's building at La Cumbre Plaza. Target wants to build its own giant box, along with a vast expanse of parking lot. Target tried for an SB parcel but the impacts on Goleta were too bad and complicated. My guess is the major commercial landlords of SB weren't that gung-ho, either. The new site Target's after is wholly in Goleta, and they'll probably prevail eventually, but there are a lot of issues and Target may decide it's not worth it. There is no "we" in it. It's all big players and big money. Look at how gutted old town Goleta is. Personally I don't get the big box love at all.
COMMENT 296198	2012-07-11 08:30 AM
809, YES, yes I would like to see a Target downtown or ANYWHERE in the SB or Goleta area. It's about time. Sheesh!
COMMENT 296215	2012-07-11 08:49 AM
I'm writing as the Public Information Officer for the City of Goleta ... The City Council has not approved a Target in Goleta. Last fall they unanimously approved initiating a process that would convert the designated land use to regional retail which would pave the way for Target to come into Goleta. Target has now submitted an application and it's working its way through the design and planning process. The proposed location is near Hollister and Los Carneros Way. It requires bringing several parcels together to make one parcel big enough to house a store of this size. You can go to the City's website, click on Meetings/Agendas at the top and then go to the Design Review Board Meeting from January 24, 2012 to read the staff report and the proposed plans.
COMMENT 296222	2012-07-11 08:56 AM
Yay, Chik-Fil-A! Can't wait 'till they're here!
COMMENT 296198	2012-07-11 09:03 AM
Roger's comment about putting a Target in City Hall is the only comment he's ever written that is worth reading and that I agree with.
FLICKA	2012-07-11 09:18 AM
And we need a Target why?? Ventura isn't far. I myself have never been in one, prefer thrift stores (and 99cent ones).
ROGER DODGER	2012-07-11 11:34 AM
Replace Paseo Nuevo with WALMART!
COMMENT 296373	2012-07-11 01:49 PM
I think you mean: 'Why can't Santa Barbarians shove a Target into Goleta for their own use so they don't have to deal with the extra traffic and other crappy fallout of another big box store?'
COMMENT 300232	2012-07-22 10:29 AM
99cent only store is nice and all, but it would be even more nicer if they supported local growers for fruits and vegetables. Walmart is a bad idea.... Such stores like Walmart, destroy Mom 'n' Pop stores, steal customers from smaller businesses, it is just sad and disgusting...conglomerate giants make me sick, with the exception of those that actually care about the local environment... Google "Walmart takes over" or "Walmart destroys" you will see an extended list drop down of popular searches...

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