ROGER DODGER
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2012-07-04 09:42 PM |
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Citizens were calling in Illegal Campers on the beach the dispatcher broadcasts out the calls By Law the Police have to respond to them. That is what was up...
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COMMENT 294182P
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2012-07-04 11:59 PM |
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Illegal campers?? They were ticketing beer on the beach.
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COMMENT 294186P
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2012-07-05 01:33 AM |
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I was at Leadbetter with a group. Shortly after arriving, I saw the police ticketing a picnic on the grass. Next the officers walked over and gave two of us open container citations with no warning. In the officers' words, we were not being disruptive--apparently the city decided there's a no alcohol, zero tolerance policy this 4th. The only signs indicating this were in the sand, far beyond where most people were on the grass. The signs were small (17 lines of text on a 8.5" x 11" paper), only 2-3 feet off the ground, very far apart, not readable after dark, and many were hidden behind tents etc. (some were even knocked over in the sand). I guarantee most visitors never saw the signs; either because they walked between signs or simply stayed on the grass, where they weren't visible. The major pathway to the sand by Shoreline Cafe didn't have such a sign. I'm guessing that anyone who contests a similar citation would easily win in court. Your tax dollars at work.
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COMMENT 294187
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2012-07-05 06:00 AM |
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Remember when we dug pits @ Leadbetter, drank heavily and fired fireworks at each other on the 4th. Kind of hard to celebrate gitmo policing and the trashed constitution.
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COMMENT 294188
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2012-07-05 06:35 AM |
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Isn't it common knowledge that you aren't supposed to drink alcohol at public parks/beaches? ...And that there would be a lot of police present on the 4th? Shouldn't need a sign, of any size, to let you know that. Be more discreet?
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COMMENT 294195
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2012-07-05 07:16 AM |
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188 for the win
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COMMENT 294196
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2012-07-05 07:21 AM |
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Common sense rears its ugly head once again 188 X 2 for the win!!!
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CORKY
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2012-07-05 07:39 AM |
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Yes, sounds like great fun in the old days what with getting drunk and firing fireworks at each other.
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COMMENT 294207
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2012-07-05 07:49 AM |
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I would like to applaud the SBPD and the City for having a large presence. It really helps control the environment. Unfortunately, common sense is not as common as it should be and we need to have a "presence" where there are a large amount of humans pushed together...
Great job SBPD!
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COMMENT 294217
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2012-07-05 08:03 AM |
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186p, yes. Tax dollars at work usually involve enforcing laws. Which you broke. Come on, these guys were doing their job and there's a reason why they do crack down on holidays like this. Not everyone is as responsible as you might be and drunk people en masse on the beach is dangerous, a public hazard. Please, don't fight your ticket. Pay it like a good citizen who admits breaking the law. Fighting it will cost the "taxpayers" even more!
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COMMENT 294219P
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2012-07-05 08:16 AM |
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No irony that it's in celebration of Independence Day.
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COMMENT 294222
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2012-07-05 08:21 AM |
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Hard the believe the city still thinks people are going to come back and dig pits. More than a generation has passed but there's still enforcement to prevent beer drinking at Leadbetter. Police presence is a good thing but it's not necessary to hand out citations on Independence day. Give us a break.
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COMMENT 294235P
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2012-07-05 08:43 AM |
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How short memories are: it was only a couple of years there was a murder by the Dolphin Fountain on the 4th of July, and the perps were only recently sentenced to prison. Since then, the public demands and gets increased police presence. As for alcohol, open containers and drinking are banned all year round. It's stupid to be obvious about it on a day when there is so much police presence -- and, apparently, beach neighbors who'll call the police.
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COMMENT 294237
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2012-07-05 08:44 AM |
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I miss those pits although I would never let my kids participate in something like that! It was a fun, unique and crazy/dangerous part of being a teen in SB in the 80's! Loved it and glad I did it but as a parent, I prefer the mellow fireworks that we watched from the sand down by the Harbor. It felt safe, family oriented, fun and the walk with the crowd afterwards felt mellow too, even though there was an ENORMOUS amount of people! I think having Goleta fireworks is awesome, it helps the SB ones to be less insane! We were home by 10pm :)
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COMMENT 294256
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2012-07-05 09:17 AM |
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Remember when the police were called Peace Officers? They're now called Law Enforcement... a semantic shift as well as a philisophical one... Its so sad that we now live in one of the least free places in the modern world. The irony of celebrating the 4th in America. We live in a police state. A money driven, politically motivated police state... a ridiculous waste of time, effort and an affront to everything that was being celebrated yesterday...
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FLICKA
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2012-07-05 09:20 AM |
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In the firepit times it wasn't uncommon for drunks to fall in, and there were plenty of them blitzed after being on the beach all day and into the night waiting for the fireworks. The next day beach-goers could step on hot coals left there. In those days the fire dept put on the fireworks and firemen had to go clean up the beach-pits; of course, no one was responsible enough to cart their own mess away.
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COMMENT 294282P
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2012-07-05 09:45 AM |
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It was the Mesa kids who started the pit digging on the 4th of July in the 60s. We would work on our pits all day walk home for lunch then return for the fireworks after dark. Used to be pretty mellow.... Just the local neighborhood kids.
Once the college kids got involved and started drinking and throwing fire crackers it was ruined for everyone.
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COMMENT 294295
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2012-07-05 09:56 AM |
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Regarding the "pits" of the past.....remember the huge cleanup the day after? It was not uncommon to actually see old couches in those pits. No way our city has the money for that kind of cleanup, not to mention the heavy machinery that had to come and fill in those pits. The good news about the law enforcement this year....no murders or gang related assaults at the beach. Good work SBPD!
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SBJULES
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2012-07-05 10:06 AM |
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it has been no booze at the beach for years now and not just on the 4th.
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ROGER DODGER
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2012-07-05 10:28 AM |
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HA,HA,HA,HA...Boy some people they want to homeless busted and ran out but it's OK for them to be above the Law. Thank You SBPD for being out there keeping people safe and giving tickets to everyone whom broke da Law.
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COMMENT 294318
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2012-07-05 10:29 AM |
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Apparently, 188, drinking alcohol, even in glass bottles IS allowed at Hendry's Beach... I was walking my dog there last week when I was harrassed by some drunk guys with lots of beer bottles. Thier dog was attacking my dog and when I asked them to control it, they berated and harrassed me with drunken ignorant impotent comments. I asked the lifeguards if bottles on the beach was legal and they replied that it IS. I was surprised. I have fond memories of the days of the pits on Leadbetter, but no one rude ever harrassed me. Times have changed.
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COMMENT 294337
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2012-07-05 10:56 AM |
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318-Thats what happens when alcohol is banned on nearly every beach in SB, guess where the drunks go? That's right, the only beach that still allows alcohol.
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COMMENT 294338
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2012-07-05 11:00 AM |
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4186P... ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it. Consider yourself educated on that one. You may complain about curbed freedom but you miss the point..... you're free to choose to do anything you want when you want and how you want - the only catch is that there could be consequences. Being adult means recognizing that and choosing whether the price is worth doing the wrong thing. You want to ignore what's considered right and wrong? That's a choice too. Lotsa freedom in all them choices and they're all yours.
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COMMENT 294295
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2012-07-05 11:26 AM |
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318 hope you reported the harassment directed at you to the police. If *you* ignore it then the next person who walks by will be their next victim and the longer they get away with it the more it will escalate. Don't put up with that kind of nonsense from anyone, but don't confront them yourself either, drunks are very "brave" especially in numbers. I am surprised drinking is allowed at Hendry's, I would check that out too. Even if it is allowed, being drunk and disorderly in public is not.
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COMMENT 294188
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2012-07-05 12:49 PM |
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@318 well maybe those who were cited should stick to Hendry's from now on ;)
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COMMENT 294390
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2012-07-05 12:56 PM |
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Three cheers for SBPD who are doing what they are paid to do....I love every one of them.....Go and God Bless America!
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COMMENT 294454
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2012-07-05 03:59 PM |
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Have to agree with Roger on this one. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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COMMENT 294479
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2012-07-05 04:42 PM |
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@294256 My memory is good and I've traveled around the world. You're simply wrong on all counts.
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