COMMENT 267628
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2012-03-27 03:04 PM |
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Glad to see the Eucs go. They are an invasive species and a nuisance! Adios intruders!
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COMMENT 267629
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2012-03-27 03:13 PM |
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Harmful UV rays are the last thing on a person's mind who has been squashed by a falling Eucalyptus. These trees are one good storm away from crashing down on buildings. Other, safer, equally UV protectant trees can be planted instead.
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COMMENT 267632
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2012-03-27 03:25 PM |
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These trees have been robbing us of vitamin D
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COMMENT 267633
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2012-03-27 03:25 PM |
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You forgot to mention the helpless little baby birds in the tree tops while playing a sad violin....tweet, tweet, tweeeeeeet. There are better shade trees and certainly safer ones. I bought a house ten years ago with yukes in my backyard....removed 'em all and put up some real shade trees (pittosporum). The leaves biodegrade very well and I don't have to worry about being crushed by a falling branch.
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COMMENT 267634
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2012-03-27 03:25 PM |
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Sadly, these trees are both invasive and dangerous at this height. The legal liability is just to great for them to remain.
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COMMENT 267636
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2012-03-27 03:34 PM |
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Many trees provide shade and do not carry the dangers that Eucalyptus does (toxic to native plants, very dangerous in fires, not terribly stable in high storms, and shed a ton of dangerous little nuts to skateboarders and bikers).
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COMMENT 267642
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2012-03-27 03:57 PM |
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I hope they're replaced with reinforced concrete trees for some permanent, reenforced-free shade.
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COMMENT 267646
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2012-03-27 04:26 PM |
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To the poster. There are UV rays in the shade as well. Your best bet is to put on some suntan lotion or go out later in the day if the sun is your concern.
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COMMENT 267629
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2012-03-27 04:50 PM |
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Good point, 646. In fact one could argue that the coolness provided by the partially filtered sunlight might lead children to be less wary of sunburn. Children that are less wary of sunburn tend to wear less protective clothing and use less lotion with a SPF. Wearing less protective clothing and using less lotion with a SPF makes children more susceptible to skin cancer later in life. Skin cancer can cause death. Don't let you children die. Cut down these trees.
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COMMENT 267670
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2012-03-27 06:21 PM |
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I read once that eucs explode during fires rather than just burn like other trees.
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COMMENT 267673
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2012-03-27 06:44 PM |
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Can someone please site the instances where people have died in Santa Barbara from falling Eucs branches? I don't think there is any. I think Palm Tree Frawns cause much more damage .... are you going to be going after those next?
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COMMENT 267633
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2012-03-27 07:07 PM |
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Two people died back in the early 70s when a huge branch fell on a house up in Mission Canyon and around 1987 a family was struck by a falling yuke while driving their car somewhere in Montecito - one of their children died as a result. The news was not reported like it is today and edhat was not around. Think about everything that Roger reports that you never hear about from any other source. Yukes kill.
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COMMENT 267689P
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2012-03-27 08:33 PM |
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I think it is very sad these trees are being cut down. They'll probably be replaced with bushes or shrubs that won't reach any shade-giving height for years and years. This is becoming an area of concrete with people covered with sun screen ... and developing osteoporosis from a lack of vitamin D, despite the shadeless parks.
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COMMENT 267693P
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2012-03-27 08:56 PM |
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How Much Sun Do You Need to Make Vitamin D? The length of time varies for each person. A fair-skinned person’s body could make about 3000 International Units (IU) in 5-15 minutes during the spring and summer. The legs and arms would need to be exposed to the midday sun without sunscreen or clothing on them. The good news is that your body will never allow you to make too much vitamin D from sunlight. http://www.consumer-health.com/services/VitaminDTheSunshineVitamin.php Just walking for 15 minutes a day with uncovered arms will give one all the Vitamin D one needs. How many in Santa Barbara do not do that in summer and spring? The subject of trees wrt Vit D is really inconsequential.
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COMMENT 267698P
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2012-03-27 09:22 PM |
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I agree, cut the darn Eucs down. Talk about a "scourge" tree that's not native to SB.
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COMMENT 267699P
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2012-03-27 09:31 PM |
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Yes, I know of property owners taking down 2-3 story tall palms because they're a hazard. Fronds break roof tiles when they fall and can mess up cars. Who knows what they'll do to a pedestrian or car driving by. When I regularly drive down De la Vina to Micheltorena I always think of those giant pine cones falling on my windshield . Of course I'll take the chance. But property owners? Let alone school districts in our litigious society? I'm even more scared of Eucalyptus since the Painted Cave, Gap, Tea & Jesusita fires; I've heard enough from friends and property owners about them. Oh well. I'd miss the trees too; it will take some years to grow some back.
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COMMENT 267705
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2012-03-28 06:06 AM |
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Weeds.
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COMMENT 267710P
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2012-03-28 06:45 AM |
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The contrived outrage of this posting is getting a bit of blowback here, eh?
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COMMENT 267725
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2012-03-28 07:37 AM |
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This discussion reminds me of a row of eucalyptus trees on the UCSB campus. Some are still there from a row that was there when the campus was a military base. They are to the immediate west of Webb Hall which in the "early days" was called the Science Building. And east of a row of barracks that in 1955 when I went to UCSB were supposed to be removed before long and which when I last looked are still there!!! After several years there were NO PARKING signs placed along that row of trees. It wasn't very long before during a windstorm a car was REALLY DAMAGED by part of one of the trees falling on it. Obviously the person got what they deserved for parking where it said NO PARKING!!! Yes, I agree that those trees are a blight. Sort of like Pampas Grass which should never have been imported into the US.
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COMMENT 267736
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2012-03-28 08:34 AM |
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TIMBER!!!!
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GBOB
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2012-03-28 08:45 AM |
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Right plant - right place. Even Eucalyptii can be appropriate in the right location. This spot is not the right location. However, were we to eliminate all non-natives, our local trees would be limited to Sycamore, Coast Live Oak, Cottonwoods, California Bay and Big-Leaf Maple. Our urban forest would be reduced to a VERY small fraction of what we have. Every plant is a weed in the wrong location. Most Eucs are not invasive. The invasion is the result of visionary human activity, to often gone awry.
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GBOB
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2012-03-28 08:46 AM |
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Yikes! I can't believe I said "to" when I meant "too".
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COMMENT 267629
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2012-03-28 08:53 AM |
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267673....What the heck is a "palm frawn"???
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COMMENT 267756
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2012-03-28 09:16 AM |
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To all the people complaining about the eucalyptus not being a native species: Santa Barbara is completely planted with "non-native" species of shrubs, flowers, and trees. Are you going to cut down/pull out all of them too? I agree about the storm and fire risk posed by eucalyptus. I like how they look, but personally, I am not thrilled they are all behind my house. The non-native species argument is ridiculous though.
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YPYETR
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2012-03-28 01:16 PM |
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My studio exists because a euc (8'+ diameter) fell on the building and they had to seal off the rest of the apartment until they could rebuild my side of the building.
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COMMENT 267629
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2012-03-28 03:21 PM |
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YPYETR - An 8'+ diameter eucalyptus tree, huh? That's one fat tree. World record fat.
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COMMENT 267871
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2012-03-28 04:54 PM |
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Consider homes in an urban / forest interface. Yes indeed I think they should be forced to plant native species in the right areas because they are often draught and fire resistant. It is sad when I see people planting things that worsen fire catastrophe and water requirements. people forget that Santa Barbara is fed by irrigation - the green you love and experience isn't natural. I enjoy that as well, however CA has a mandate to conserve by 20% by 2020. I support that effort. I just hope that that correctly curtails and impacts the wealthy fat cats of Montecito and Hope Ranch.
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