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COMMENT 255942	2012-02-11 09:41 AM
Thank you Urban Hikers.... I wish I had thought of doing what you`ve done...it`s awesome!..I am the great grand nephew of one Pedro Yanonalit...myself,my Dad & his Dad are all named for this Chief of Syuxtun [of the 11 dialects,this is the correct sp. for the area]....of the MANY versions re: our history,I like yours the best... I recently closed my biz,[Chumash & ghost tour,still own the rights though] but I would have loved to include you guys in the adventure.....thanx Urban Hikers
JOHN WILEY	2012-02-11 11:50 AM
Thanks for sharing your local adventures. The herstory of the island woman is intriguing. Have you added any of the referenced material to the SB wiki pages?
COMMENT 256053	2012-02-11 02:17 PM
As always, a great article. I'm still mad they got rid of the mushroom fountain in the kiddy pool (even though my kiddy pool days were long past). I have great memories of standing underneath it looking at the world through a thin sheet of water.
COMMENT 256066	2012-02-11 03:16 PM
herstory? only something like that could ruin another fantastic urban hikers article, wiley.
COMMENT 255942	2012-02-11 03:54 PM
The history-book story of the islands is so far from correct,that the U.H. are better off not publishing on Wiki. Ask a Chumash Elder about it & you will have a story to end all stories. If I told you folks everything there is to know about this part of the coast,your 1st incl. would be disbelief,then shock,then acceptance through your own exp.,then fear at the power...then enlightenment.
HEATHER	2012-02-11 06:00 PM
Thank you Urban Hikers. I love all the little bits of history you pass on to all of us! Question. Did the 4 Chumash villages co-exist, or was each there at a separate point in time? Please keep reporting your adventures to us!
COMMENT 256122P	2012-02-11 07:54 PM
Interesting and thank you! One observation, though: I am sorry you gave the impression that the costs of harbor slips are beyond the reach of locals. That's certainly so for some slips and boat owners with their Hope Ranch etc. affluence, but there are many small boats berthed and the slip fees are comparable and often lower than elsewhere in Southern CA, as are the slip transfer fees. Also, nearly 100 boats are the primary residences for some and, again, most are not affluent. Still, though, having a boat is a luxury for some. And, finally, it's a working harbor with an active fishing fleet.
MOMMAME	2012-02-11 11:04 PM
What great photos. I am amazed by the lack of traffic on Cabrillo Blvd. Obviously I travel on it at a busier time of day. Thanks for the history lesson, some of this I should already know as an 8th generation SB native.
RED CREEK	2012-02-12 10:33 AM
Super photos and informative, interesting text. A few additions: Many of us growing up in and around this area loved to play on "fossil hill" which was excavated in the 60's? when the road up the hill to shoreline park was created. Previously the road ended at the bath house (our name for the pool). On the hill opposite the pool were lots of trails, white sand and hidey-holes and the local kids loved playing on it. Fossil hunters did too , and some big clam fossils are still around in the neighborhood, but harder to find. The local scuttle on the San Nicolas woman (and all the Chumash) was that they were forced into slavery, all their possessions burned, including their beautiful boats so they wouldn't excape. This is in some history books, but growing up we heard this from the local descendents of both Spanish and Chumash. It would be good to get the truth out once and for all so we don't continue to unabashedly glorify the Spanish occupation era. Much of the tragedy of that time occurred along the waterfronts where the villages existed and now we romp in the surf.
COMMENT 255942	2012-02-12 12:13 PM
Hi Redcreek.... Chumash-wisdom here..the woman of the islands [wont use either name] was not a slave...she hid when the Sp. rounded the Chumash off the islands & lived for years in happy seclusion until she was spotted by a Sp. ship,which then sent another boat to retrieve her. She was brought to the mainland & died in only 6 [apx.] weeks due to illness contracted by the Sp. We [the Chumash] can sit literally,for hours on end..laughing at the stories told by history books & "leading experts"..we don`t change their stories because misinformation works on our side..
COMMENT 256356	2012-02-13 11:04 AM
The truth in the previous two comments is no where to be found. The Chumash were removed from San Nicholas because the Russian fur traders and the Alaskan Indians they used to hunt for seals were slaughtering the native Chumash on the island. The Russians would leave Alaskans on the islands to hunt for seals and return weeks or months later to pick them up. In the meantime the Alakans were killing the Chumash men and using the women as they pleased. The few Chumash remaining were removed from the island for their own protection. The woman in quesiotn "Juana Maria" was not hiding from anyone. She left the boat to return to the island to get her child which she thought was with one of the other women. Also note, the Spanish were long gone, this was the Mexican era. There is also speculation that "Juana Maria" was not Chumash, but actually Alaskan.
COMMENT 255942	2012-02-14 08:15 AM
356 is repeating old Western information. The two posters who 356 claims are wrong,are actually correct....& the speculation is that Juana may have been Tongva,not Alaskan..... Alaskans & Chumash have more in common than Sp. & CH., so it stands to reason that there was not the conflict suggested,but as is known,the Sp.& Mex. gov. were the killers. Who wrote that..Graffey?
SBJULES	2012-02-14 05:42 PM
I so appreciate the Urban hikers. Another great installment. I miss the mushroom pool and the pool at east beach too. Not that I'd wade, but I feel sorry for kids today.

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