COMMENT 122037P
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2010-11-17 07:02 AM |
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Roger, please explain about some sex offenders' addresses being associated with homeless shelters? Do the homeless shelters also rent places for homeless people?
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COMMENT 122042
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2010-11-17 07:12 AM |
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It never fails to amaze me just how much trouble alcohol causes our city. Not that I'm for prohibition but a lot of these folks should use pot if they want to get weird. I've never read a Roger report about anyone being crazy enough on that to cause harm to someone else.
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ROGER DODGER
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2010-11-17 07:17 AM |
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@122037P, I'm sure with alittle research you could figure that out on your own. It's snot that hard. All the tools are there.
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COMMENT 122055
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2010-11-17 07:41 AM |
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There is no checking on sex offenders or other crimes when people enter the shelter on Cacique St. It's becoming evident that quite a few people masquerading as homeless are early prison or jail-release, and they migrate here from San Luis, Goleta, and other state jurisdictions. Wonder why crime is going up in the city? Pay attention to Homeless, Inc. They want to house them ALL regardless of origin, background, or criminal activity.
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COMMENT 122062
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2010-11-17 07:53 AM |
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Homeless....... and what about all the panhandlers begging for money on the side of the roads like the con-artist on the southbound 101 Carrillo exit. He's the one with his pants rolled up too high on purpose and the bill of his hat turned up. He acts like he a broke timid and shy old man. One day I saw him almost take out two cops and another day I watched him get in to his car and take off. Yes he has a car!! Yet people still give this @#$@% money.
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COMMENT 122072
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2010-11-17 08:15 AM |
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There is not a single person on the Megan's List website in area code 93103 that is listed at a homeless shelter address. Please reveal here the names of the people who are "affiliated" and/or reside at homeless shelters who are on Megan's list.
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ROGER DODGER
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2010-11-17 08:19 AM |
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I did not say the addresses were on there. Sorry but I don't reveal my sources. It's snot impossible to figure it out by doing the research yourselves. Good Luck.
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COMMENT 122120
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2010-11-17 10:07 AM |
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Anyone with older friends or family in Goleta, watch out for in the Orchard/Vons parking lot, their are at least 2 families of con artists working them for their money as they load their groceries, they are driving nicer cars than my wife and I can afford. Just tell Vons, we did and they (scammers) literally ran to their cars to get away, obviously scammers by their shady behavior and the fact that we have seen them the last 4 times we were there
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COMMENT 122125
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2010-11-17 10:11 AM |
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Is crime going up, or is the perception of crime amongst readers of edhat, and especially the scanner report, going up? In a presentation a few years back I heard the term FUD, which stands for fear, uncertainty, doubt. Like some television news reports, the scanner report sometimes feels to me to be spreading FUD, although I don't believe that's Roger's intention. As to more and more people searching meganslawca.gov (actually meganslaw.ca.gov), that's an assertion that I don't think Roger can rightly make. As watchers of Dragnet would say, "Just the facts, ma'am." (which in fact Sgt. Friday never said). So perhaps Roger should stick to just the facts as he hears them on the scanner?
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COMMENT 122131
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2010-11-17 10:27 AM |
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Beware the Canadian pit bulls, whatever they are.
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COMMENT 122132
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2010-11-17 10:28 AM |
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122062 - i agree with you, ive seen this individual pull out a wad of cash and start counting it, until he saw there were other individuals that had spotted him and quickly put the cash in pocket and pulled out his "help, im broke" sign. these people are con artist, this man has and makes more money than most of us in a day, its a joke, the homeless in SB are far from poor, dont give in to their scams, if they really need help, they could find it. offer your left over food and watch them turn it down, if they were really that hungry and poor, they wouldnt throw a cheese burger from McD's that someone had the kindness in their heart to offer them back at you at the back of your head. yes this really happend, quite funny
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COMMENT 122152P
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2010-11-17 11:32 AM |
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122062: The rolled up pants guy with the sign on Carillo (at the freeway and at DLV) routinely gets given BILLS when he is in my line of sight. Do people who give homeless cash get inflated egos over this? He is a scam artist, no matter where he lives.
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COMMENT 122153
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2010-11-17 11:34 AM |
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Just yesterday I had a guy approach me, claiming he had just been released from the hospital, but he was feeling really weak, so he needed bus fare since he couldn't walk any further. I asked him where he was going and he said Stearn's Wharf. I pointed out the from Cottage Hospital to where we were was further than the distance to the Wharf, and why would he be going there anyway? I offered to call an ambulance if he was in medical distress, and at that point he walked away. We should start an EdHat project to identify the con artist panhandlers. That way people who want to help can distinguish between the con artists and the truly needy.
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COMMENT 122158
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2010-11-17 11:39 AM |
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all of them are con artists.
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COMMENT 122162
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2010-11-17 11:44 AM |
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I recall one con artist that asked me for money in the Ralphs parking lot on Carillo. He just needed two more dollars to get him home to San Luis Obispo, and pulled out his ID to "prove" it. I saw him weeks later pulling the same garbage in that same lot.
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COMMENT 122164
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2010-11-17 11:52 AM |
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158-You are 100% right. I would like to hear from somebody who gives money to the con artists at the lights and have them tell me why they do it. Do you really believe they spend the money on food or a bus ticket home? Why is it that every single panhandler I see is smoking cigarettes? Pretty expensive habit for someone who is in "dire need" and starving. The money you give to them either goes straight to the liquor store or to finance a drug habit. So, when you give them money, you are really hurting them by making it easy for them to get alcohol and drugs. If you want to help them, give them food or donate to a shelter.
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COMMENT 122165P
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2010-11-17 11:53 AM |
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I see the rolled up pants guy on the Carrillo off-ramp almost every day. I don't usually give him money, because I always turn right to go up to the Mesa. But I have also seen him on the corner of De la Vina and Carrillo at night in the driving rain. If this guy has a car, as you say, then I'm quite sure he is living out of it. Just because you own a car does not mean you are not still homeless. I'm all for sweeping the aggressive pan-handling vagrants off of State Street entirely, but I am not totally without compassion for the homeless.
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COMMENT 122062
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2010-11-17 11:57 AM |
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122153 great idea!! How do we start an Ed Hat project? These people are cons. I actually tried to take a cell phone photo of the guy with the turned up hat bill and he closed his folded card board sign. DIRGIRL same thing happened to me at the Trader Joe"s on De La Vina
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COMMENT 122184
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2010-11-17 12:58 PM |
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This has turned into The Scammer Report !
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ROGER DODGER
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2010-11-17 01:24 PM |
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FUD, Isn't that a food product? Stick to the facts, is that a vain threat? I actually do stick to the facts I like MegansLawCa.gov have not published the addresses of the half way houses, or homeless shelters where some of these offenders live. I'm not saying anything out of line or bad. I don't plan on publishing the addresses where these people live. I hope that they never offend again in fact I pray that they never offend again. I would never want to see someone else go through what I did. That is why. I keep my eyes open and my phone close by. And yes I have called the police before on sex offenders who were on the lam that I spotted in this neighborhood several in fact. Right now though there are no violiations on the website. I find it intresting that there are people out there that would rather mind their own business and suck down another grant then be concerned for the welfare of a child. Those are the facts, and I'm sticking to them while others like me to or not. :) @122168, I think sharing here is a good start as far as con artists and such. I might give a buck or two to a homeless friend but from now on I'm sending a few bucks to Disabled veterans, many veterans are homeless also.
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COMMENT 122072
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2010-11-17 03:49 PM |
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Unless proof can be provided that there are Megan's Law offenders residing in shelters, than the accusation is not warranted. Considering that most people seem to believe that the scanner guy articles are true, there is a reasonable expectation that if accusations are leveled, than those accusations must be proven in the text. But, very sadly, this has become par for the course. Considering that credibility is being lost everytime a false, unproven, attack is leveled, please by all means continue. Please take the time to name one person who would rather suck down a grant than be concerned about the welfare of a child. That is perhaps one of the most horrible accusations that could ever, ever be made, so please back it up. Who are you talking about and how do you personally or professionally know they care more about a grant than the welfare of a child?
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COMMENT 122254
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2010-11-17 03:59 PM |
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Roger's reports are hear-say and should be read as such. With a grain of suspicion.
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ROGER DODGER
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2010-11-17 04:14 PM |
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You know who you are. And many others do too. So many in fact it's been mentioned on other sites in the comments section. If people were really intrested in checking the shelters for sex offenders they call do it on their own they don't need my help. My stories can be proven by listening to the scanneroni which many people here do. Personally I think that a shelter that has clinets whom are children and clinets whom are child molesters in the same structure, really don't care about either human being. Be it known there are other witnesses to this practice they just haven't commented on it. How can creditbility be lost on a general observation?
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ROGER DODGER
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2010-11-17 06:27 PM |
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I thought we were having a friendly discussion here, and you have to go and get angry. As long as people whom are sex offenders that happen to be in shelters or halfway houses don't break the law there's no reason to say anything. Most of them offend under the infulence of alcohol, and as long as they stay sober not many re offend. I'm not busting someones name out in the public to prove a mute point. Where else are they going to go? No one wants to rent to them. Whom does the goverment support? It's obvious where they have to go. And alot of people know that without having to say a word. Why else does Ken W. give out all those rape whistles?
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COMMENT 122072
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2010-11-17 08:46 PM |
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Youv'e got to love it when anonyomous commenters tell other anonymous commenters to stop commenting anonymously! Too funny.
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COMMENT 122287
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2010-11-17 08:54 PM |
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I think for some of us there is a genuine desire to help someone who appears to be so in need. During the holidays there are many ways to do this, volunteering at the food bank, or donating to charities if you can afford to, or simply being kind to those often overlooked and disliked. My family and I purchase gift cards to places like mc donalds or taco bell, and offer them to those who we see asking for help. We choose these places because they are accessible and affordable, and they dont serve alcohol. We do this because we can. We also donate our time, and some money to programs like real change and casa esperanza. Maybe we have been scammed, but with all the other ways in which my money is scammed away from me (ie taxes), Im not too concerned about it.
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ROGER DODGER
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2010-11-17 10:20 PM |
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OK Tracy where do I go to get the Taco Bell Card??? LOL.
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COMMENT 122308P
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2010-11-18 07:37 AM |
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Is it me? I have twice read reports of incidents on the 500 block of W. Quinto... but is there such a place??? I live on the 400 block and the street ends there... unless there are two or three houses west of little Fletcher St that count as the 500 block...? Anyone know if this is so? Can't see any numbers changing over there...
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COMMENT 122165P
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2010-11-18 08:04 AM |
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122308P - There are at least a half dozen houses on Quinto between Alamar and Fletcher that are in the 500's.
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COMMENT 122375P
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2010-11-18 10:31 AM |
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Regarding the comment "I don't usually give him money..." but why would you EVER give a panhandler money at the freeway exit ramp? THAT IS THE PROBLEM !!!!!!!!!
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SHAKEY
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2010-11-18 10:36 AM |
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About 4 yrs. ago when I had my station across from the shelter I herd about Megans law site so I checked it & found 3 people that I new stayed there on Megans law. Every time a new family checked in there that had kids, I would make sure that they knew who to watch out for. Oh a correction on my earlyer coment 2 lived tthere & 1 Worked there. Did anyone see the Ventura Star on Sunday? Front page OVER 100,000 sex afenders are missing in Ca. What do you think the odds are that a small group are here, maybe staying at or working at.......Oh well keep up the good fight Roger, and Mr. Foley remind me again Who are you fighting for ? I didn't see one word about I'll investagate , and make sure the KIDS & there MOMs are safe....
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SHAKEY
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2010-11-18 11:06 AM |
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Yea but there's more like 8 security guards most of which are 5 times the cigars guy size. By the way the guy they did a story on in the Independant today, Al Stein? He lived there too before he was placed in the Falldown Hotel. So you see sex offenders have been placed all over the city and we have one shelter to thank for it..
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COMMENT 122165P
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2010-11-18 11:22 AM |
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If people don't want a bunch of homeless sex offenders then they should stop screaming for laws that make it impossible for sex offenders to find places to live. I'm not on the side of the sex offender. If I made the rules they would have a huge "X" branded on their forehead so everyone knew who they were. But seriously, I have to laugh at the way were are approaching this problem. As if a sex offender who is forced to live more than 2000 ft from kids doesn't have two legs with which he can walk.
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ROGER DODGER
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2010-11-18 11:50 AM |
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Jessicas Law orignated in Flordia not California. The article I read about it is on SF Weekly, An article called: Sex Ofenders Forced into homelessness a bad idea. Having sex offenders around doesn't bother me so much. I am concerned though for the children, and women. In shelters are not the only place where these offenders reside. They live all over town. My point in the first place was to let readers know about Meganslawca.gov website to access the site and study it, using it as another tool to keep our families safe peroid. Then while googling for other information I found the article. and commented on it. Where else would they have to go besides a shelter? Especally one that recieves goverment monies. It's not aganist the laws for me to comment on it, nor is it aganist the law for sex offenders to live in shelters to live in shelters. I'd like my readers to be aware so they can keep their families safe that's one of the reasons why I write the Scanner Reports.
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COMMENT 122477
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2010-11-18 02:54 PM |
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Who's kidding who? Of course pedophiles and sex offenders have stayed at homeless shelters. They exist in every type of population. They are in churches, Boy Scouts, brokerage firms, etc. So why not a shelter?
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COMMENT 122553
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2010-11-18 07:16 PM |
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It's been my experience at both Casa & The Faulding that if you don't have someone looking specifically at sex offenders/Meagan's Law on a regular basis it gets overlooked. Unless they are in violation of their registration/probation I don't think Casa can throw them out. Sex offenders get the same refferals to The Faulding that all others who are reffered to the Faulding from a county agency. I never could figure out if the County kept this info from Faulding mgt. deliberately or not. When The Faulding was aware of their status - they were not granted housing. This was several years ago and I don't know what current mgt. policy is.
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COMMENT 122553
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2010-11-18 08:23 PM |
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Sex offenders DO reside at Casa, absolutely and without molestation. I watched a 40-ish, registered sex offender begin a relationship with a then 21-year-old pregnant girl, the ONLY way we were able to get rid of him and have him kicked out of Casa was that he had failed to register his wherabouts with the Police Department as he is required by law. He was picked up and jailed for a few weeks, a month? I still see them around town - together. Oh and once out of jail, his registration status updated, he was allowed to stay at Casa Esperanza. Yes, they do still have two family rooms.
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ROGER DODGER
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2010-11-19 10:11 AM |
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@122566, For your sake I hope you no longer work there. Sounds like you disagree with the action. The more I read the more I remember and realize that someone is not telling the truth. Prehaps others will remember and realize this also. Childrens lives are seriously being put in danger here.
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ROGER DODGER
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2010-11-20 03:31 PM |
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I'm kinda wondering if there is going to be a responce from the Great Poop Pa of Cacique street. Concerning the comments from Shakey, 122553, and 122566, or is he just going to let the comments slip from view and pretend they don't exist.
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