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People v. Ledesma

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 COMMENT 350221 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 03:48 PM

Yes, we know that the police never make mistakes or use poor judgment. I'm amazed at how perfectly they perform and how often citizens need to be taught a lesson.


 COMMENT 350226P helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 03:54 PM

Plus they never get mentioned by name.


 COMMENT 350230 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 03:59 PM

You know, sometimes police officers are put in extraordinary situations and they have to act in an instant. I bet if the officer had been killed in this circumstance 221 and 226 would have a different oppinion of the matter.


 COMMENT 350231P helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 04:02 PM

Does anyone know whether the DA's office has ever determined that the police officer used excessive force and if there was a time, how long ago?


 COMMENT 350238 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 04:16 PM

221 It's good to hear that protecting yourself is using poor judgement, but if a gang-banger was trying to kill me and I had my 9mm at hand, I'm thinking I would try to stop him.


 COMMENT 350246P helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 04:53 PM

How can anyone pass judgment either for or against without knowing the facts?


 BECKY helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 05:11 PM

Those who would question an officer's use of force should really stop to think about what we demand of them. They aren't allowed to act in self-defense unless directly threatened. (It's almost 'don't fire unless fired upon.') They have to make split second decisions in rapidly evolving situations that have potentially lethal consequences to them, to the perpetrator/suspect, and to innocent bystanders. No matter what they do, they are subject to a thorough investigation after the fact by numerous folks, including those with a chip on their shoulder due to some past perceived injustice by some other officer. It's an impossible job, and I and most other fair or sane people will almost always give the officer the benefit of the doubt.


 COMMENT 350254P helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 05:12 PM

I have to agree with #246, I wasn't there. But, based on the outcome, I like the result. The perp is alive to stand trial and the officer is unharmed.


 COMMENT 350257 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 05:26 PM

good grief. here we go again.


 COMMENT 350259 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 05:32 PM

good grief. here we go again.


 COMMENT 350307 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 07:15 PM

cops are liars


 COMMENT 350339 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 08:19 PM

The laws are written to protect police actions. It is almost impossible to find situations where police are at fault. It has taken months to get any action against the police who killed Kelly Thomas in Fullerton. No quick kill. A team of police beat him to death. They took time to put on rubber gloves before the killing.


 COMMENT 350357 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-04 11:17 PM

Two of the officers involved the the Kelly Thomas tragedy are being prosecuted. Hello??


 COMMENT 350366 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-05 06:29 AM

I guess some folks just don't want to have ANY police around. I wonder why or, more to the point, what age group they represent.


 COMMENT 350386 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-05 07:28 AM

For those who've spoken out against police, go to Oakland. There the force has been drastically cut back (25% fewer cops than the city ordinance calls for) and crime rates have risen to appalling numbers, 23% just this year. Mayor Jean Quan's program to go soft on criminals is backfiring on innocent people trying to go about their lives working and making a life without having their cars stolen or houses broken into.


 COMMENT 350307 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-05 07:54 AM

Cops can't tell the difference between a gang banger and a community member, so overuse their authority almost every time.


 COMMENT 350432 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-05 09:22 AM

Cops + Parents=increased safety. Less crime. Kids will earn money to buy those silly Lebron James shoes, those ridiculous beatz headphones that look like an 80's roller rink instead of stealing. They'll be proud of their friends new cars instead of jealous because they know that their saving account almost has enough for that new _________.


 COMMENT 350437P helpful negative off topic

2012-12-05 09:29 AM

i agree with skooby, oakland has four times the population of santa barbara and a hundred times as many homicides each year. a little perspective helps sometimes. that said oakland is a beautiful city with a lot to offer.


 COMMENT 350451 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-05 09:48 AM

As usual, people are for or against based on their ideology, not on facts.


 COMMENT 350478 helpful negative off topic

2012-12-05 10:32 AM

I don't have neck tats, I don't hang out at bars til 2am, I don't associate with criminals, I don't drive recklessly, and I do my best to obey the law.

Lo and behold, I have never been harrassed by the police in my life. Funny how that works.


 RESIDENT helpful negative off topic

2012-12-05 10:50 AM

While it is completely appropriate for police officers to defend themselves in situations such as the one referenced here, the same should be true of us "ordinary citizens."

There are far too many people in our society these days that think we must depend only on the police to defend us from people like Ledesma and have no responsibility for our own self-defense. The police can't be everywhere we are at all times.


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