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Suspect Arrested in Arson / Killing of Dog

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 COMMENT 340960P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 10:24 AM

I have a hard time imagining there is any possibility for redemption with a person who can torture an animal so heinously. Dogs are the most dependent, defenseless and loyal creature humans have the privilege of loving. Who or what broke this psychopath? Or was he born heartless? Being high is not the reason he did this; having no soul is.

 

 COMMENT 340963P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 10:27 AM

It's crimes like these that make me wish an eye for an eye punishment was acceptable...

 

 COMMENT 340966 helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 10:29 AM

Crimes against animals are despicable and should be punished to the full extent of the law (or more....)

What a sick sack of dirt!

 

 COMMENT 340977 helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 10:40 AM

POS! The family dog.....if my son did this he would be committed to a mental hospital or worse!

 

 COMMENT 340981 helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 10:44 AM

It starts with animals, then moves to children, defenseless adults and on it goes. This type of person needs serious punishment.

 

 COMMENT 340984 helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 10:50 AM

Despicable.

 

 COMMENT 340995 helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 11:11 AM

I don't feel sorry for his family, because I hold them responsible. He might be 18, but he's not completely cooked yet, and the bakers are culpable.

Absolutely attrocious, and I hope the parents learned something from this.

 

 COMMENT 341010P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 11:51 AM

Yes, lets gather stones and pitchforks and march to his house! I'll light the torches...

Seriously, this kid did something that makes lots of people's blood boil including my own. Yet its kind of pointless to make diagnoses and demand specific punishment. While we all likely have complaints regarding our legal system we DO have a legal system and he's smack in the middle of it right now. I trust he'll be evaluated and get considerable punishment and hopefully the proper medical/psychiatric care.

That said, let me add my own worthless conjecture; I wonder if he shows the other two signs of a truly disturbed youth... bedwetting and firesetting?

 

 COMMENT 341015 helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 12:02 PM

I saw this on the KTLA morning new when it happened and I believe I remember seeing on the news the police investigating something else at the same residence previously. What a whack job.

 

 COMMENT 341010P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 12:07 PM

341014P:
Thanks for pointing out that I am mistaken. Can you enlighten me what the mistake is? And for the record, this wouldn't be the first time :-)

 

 COMMENT 341022 helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 12:11 PM

1010p, you are mistaken to inject a voice of reason into comments that just want to express outrage.

I hope that this type of crime is enough to serve as a 1st strike so that he can end up in prison for life, which is where he needs to be. Unfortunately, dogs are considered property, and property crimes are usually not serious enough to be considered for the 1st strike laws.

They should tell us what kind of drugs he was on as a warning to other kids.

 

 COMMENT 341035P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 12:34 PM

I am speechless. And more so by this: $20,000 fine or 1 year in prison or both. No where near enough time in jail for this, IMHO.

California Penal Code: Animal Welfare Provisions
§597. Cruelty to Animals

§597. Cruelty to animals.

(a) Except as provided in subdivision (c) of this section or Section 599c, every person who maliciously and intentionally maims, mutilates, tortures or wounds a living animal or maliciously and intentionally kills an animal, is guilty of an offence punishable by imprisonment in the state prison or by a fine of not more than twenty thousand dollars ($20,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment, or, alternatively, by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year, or by a fine of not more than twenty thousand dollars ($20,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment.

 

 COMMENT 341041 helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 12:51 PM

What a horrible act! While I understand your anger, please refrain from promoting harm of this person.

-Nan

 

 COMMENT 341071P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 01:55 PM

I hope the judge makes him pay $20,000 and also makes him stay in prison. What awful thing to do to one of gods creatures. What an awful person.

 

 COMMENT 341100P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 03:16 PM

This individual is obviously disturbed and a product of deficient upbringing. He needs counseling and treatment, not jail and a fine.

 

 COMMENT 341108 helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 03:56 PM

I personally believe that these kinds of animal abusers should be sentenced to community service at local animal shelters instead of going to jail. Jail won't teach them anything about the crime they committed, but it may well make them more anti-social.

When you have to care for neglected, abused and abandoned animals, it directly addresses the issue, and it becomes very hard to keep working with them without your heart wanting to reach out to them. A sentence like this (perhaps two years, twice a week) is much more effective than throwing them in jail or having them pay a fine.

What do we really want here? Revenge, or reforming/repairing a human that, for whatever reason (child abuse, drugs, wrong crowd etc) lacked the comprehension that animals are not objects on which to dump negative emotions caused by other things.

What proof do we have that imprisoning (or castrating, or doing all of the things some of you have proposed above), makes one bit of difference?

 

 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 04:05 PM

You put this story in here with the guys picture and you expect everyone to be like Peace and Love. Oh I'll pray for the poor demented soul...Poor Baby...If only he had the right medication..He will just get probation and counseling anyway..Next year some other kid will do the same thing..It will just go on and on and on and on..What a Joke our justice business is.

 

 COMMENT 341117 helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 04:33 PM

026 for President

 

 COMMENT 341140P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 06:02 PM

This 18 is one, sick person, no doubt about it.

It had to be the drugs and that long hair. (Had to toss that in)

 

 COMMENT 341145P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 06:39 PM

010P, you are sadly mistaken because 981 is right. Your comment simplifies what others have proven. Harming animals is an indicator of future behavior harming humans. Whereas bedwetting is not.

 

 COMMENT 341010P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-09 08:51 PM

45P:

I was specifically referring to the Macdonald Triad (which has plenty of controversy surrounding it) which suggests that kids who are chronic bed wetters past age five, set fires and torture animals are much more likely to commit violent crimes/murders as adults.

 

 COMMENT 341191P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-10 01:56 AM

There are some pathologies that are blameless, meaning that the parents had no control. The case is horrendous; the parents are not necessarily to blame. Of course the alleged perp may be to blame. Just thinking of Jared Loughner... I am NOT excusing the alleged perp. I won't say more. Just wanted to take some blame off the parents, as sometimes there are conditions beyond the parents' or any one's control. And I'm saying this as a kid with no crimes or record, not as a parent.

 

 COMMENT 341200P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-10 03:26 AM

Poor, poor dog.

And EITS, I know you mean well, but I don't think attempting to teach this guy or redeem him by having him care for animals would work. He is a seriously damaged person. The fact that he could even think of doing what he did, shows us he is not of sound mind, drugs or no drugs.

As one previous comment read, this is only one sick and twisted act of his ---THAT WE KNOW OF . . . Who knows how many other animals (or small children!) he has tormented? I think years of therapy would be wasted on this individual.

The best thing to do for everyone would be to remove him from the gene pool. Since that is not an option, I would vote that he be incarcerated and thus kept away from innocent and helpless creatures----for the rest of his life.

I hope he is punished to the fullest extent of the law and very shortly lands in prison for life as soon as possible.

 

 COMMENT 341252 helpful negative off topic

2012-11-10 09:14 AM

What is a matter with these teens on drugs they twist there mind.dont they no that and now an INNOCENT animal HAD TO PAY for an EVIL ANGREE PERSON TO TAKE HIS LIFE!!! Not fair for BUDDY! The Moron needs to do time and VOUNTEER @ an animal shalter there is no EXECUSE Justices should Be SERVED!! For others that have been killed for no REASON!! R.I.P Buddy justice God Help Us All!!! From Crule Monsters..

 

 ANIMALLISTNER helpful negative off topic

2012-11-10 10:59 AM

Great job investigators, in nailing this monster! He must pay for this horrific crime. Many folks are tuned in, following the case! We must keep the heat on!

 

 COMMENT 341303P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-10 11:17 AM

EITIS- as someone who rescues dogs and spends time in shelters--PLEASE dont advocate however well meaning for an extreme animal abuser or any animal abuser to volunteer at a shelter. Like putting a child molester in a pediatric ward.
A guy that damaged would only be tittilated by the suffering of vulnerable animals. He is demonstrating severe sociopathy and long term mental institutionalization is sadly the only humane option for all

 

 COMMENT 341412P helpful negative off topic

2012-11-10 02:58 PM

sad and disgusting, this guy has serial killer stamped on his forehead, i imagine i'll be reading about him some time in the future. let's not forget michael vick did the same thing and he's back in the nfl collecting big paychecks.

 

 COMMENT 341830 helpful negative off topic

2012-11-12 06:42 AM

I agree with EITS, although I would advocate jail time plus lengthy community service overseen at an animal shelter. Those who advocate for a jail sentence alone for this horrible, horribly cruel act forget that jails are overcrowded, even short sentences are cut so offenders are quickly out. There is no effective oversight to prevent future acts.... Like it or not, animal cruelty is not treated the same way as cruelty to humans and there NEEDS to be rehabilitation to prevent future acts.

 

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