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Injury Traffic Accident

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ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 03:45 PM
Engines 7 and 92 Responding.
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 03:48 PM
This might be a vehicle over the side near the power lines..
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 03:55 PM
This is a vehicle over the side reporting party attemptting to hike down reporting parties station wagon parked on the side of the road..More engines responding all traffic switched to Montecito channel one..Reporting parties father with the victim reporting moderate injuries..
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 03:56 PM
There are skidmarks on the road where the vehicle went off..
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 03:58 PM
The accident is near the Rattlesnake trail near the power lines Fire still searching..
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 04:03 PM
100 Feet over the side past the communation tower engine 7 and AMR on scene.
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 04:09 PM
They are using harnes to get the patient up the hill..
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 04:14 PM
Vehicle 200 feet down aprox. I heard someone say minor injuries but I don't know. It's hard to hear there is some interference.
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 04:17 PM
Patient is complaining of back pain neck pain just heard that the vehicle went off Gilbralter last night..One patient dehyrated Copter 309 responding. Sounds like they might be switching channels again..
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 04:43 PM
Last I heard Copter 309 was responding to the airport to pick up medics then onto Gilbralter they are on their Nextels now time for KEYT or NoozHawk to take over.
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 04:44 PM
Roger over and Out.
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 04:45 PM
Copter 309 will be transporting the patient to Cottage Hospital.
COMMENT 338832	2012-11-03 04:59 PM
Still hearing the chopper in the area at 4:59.
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 05:02 PM
I saw the chopper it's comming down now to Cottage..
COMMENT 338835	2012-11-03 05:13 PM
Heli just flew over San Roque about 5 ago, out over Las Positas, to the 101 then down to Cottage
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 05:21 PM
Victim of accident told someone that he is not sure if he was the only one in the vehicle..?
COMMENT 338854P	2012-11-03 06:14 PM
GIbralter is notorious for being a place to go drink & party while checking out the view. It's a crazy/dangerous road but that seems to make it more of an allure to kids than anything. Wonder what his blood alcohol was last night.
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-03 06:43 PM
I went up there sober one night scared the hell outta me.
YPYETR	2012-11-03 06:46 PM
Seems suspicious that the father is the one who found him. If his phone was working, why didn't he call the police right away?!? Why did Dad wait until 3PM to call the police? He was well enough, and cognizant enough, to walk away from the accident and thread his way 150 ft from the wreck, so why wait twelve hours to call the police from a working phone? Anyone who has spent any significant time in that area knows that sound travels and echos forever around there. None of the hikers up there heard a panicked, desperate teenager screaming for help?!? If not, why wasn't he screaming for help?!? That is a very busy road in this kind of weather! Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the kid is alright, but the story doesn't add up. It seems more likely that he called dad, dad came up to rescue his boy AVOIDING CALLING FOR HELP, and then realizing it was beyond his capabilities, resigned himself to calling the officials. Just saying, it sounds screwy that his dad is the one who found him.
COMMENT 338835	2012-11-03 07:29 PM
YPYETR it is possible the phone was not with the victim, lost in the car, tossed out of the car if it rolled.
COMMENT 338899P	2012-11-03 08:39 PM
YPYETR: yes, the driver may have been under the influence of something, but we don't know that yet. But now we have this info: "The patient's father found his son using his son's iPhone tracking device. The father initiated the 911 call to the Santa Barbara City 911 dispatch center."
COMMENT 338854P	2012-11-03 10:14 PM
Feels very suspicious. It says in Roger's report that the reporting party was trying to hike down to the car so if the reporting party was his father it's pretty clear he located him using the phone and then called for help. Not sure how I would cope with that situation but I think that if my child was out overnight and I tracked their phone I would ask for help, afraid what I would find I think. Glad that the boy is okay and hope that nobody else was in the car... maybe someone else drove and then took off and left him there? There is a lot more to the story I'm sure...
COMMENT 338931P	2012-11-04 04:43 AM
Not sure if he was alone! Ummm...
COMMENT 338988	2012-11-04 08:40 AM
People are suspicious of something that is not at all suspicious.
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-04 11:15 AM
DELETEDELETEDELETE...
COMMENT 339065	2012-11-04 01:34 PM
Man...people can sure look for the dark side. I have been told that the father re ported the son missing Saturday morning and the police would do nothing since a certain amount of time had not passed. They suggested he could have runaway or spent the night with friends. When the police wouldn't/couldn't get involved and given the reliability of this boy, the father did a search for the phone, then drove up to the area where the phone was. I don't know if the car was visible, but he did see skid marks and he alerted officials, then climbed down to check the situation. As a parent, I would have done the same exact thing. Sheesh, people...give this family a break.
COMMENT 339073	2012-11-04 03:05 PM
Agree 065... the conjecture and assumptions made by some in this thread are rude and completely unfounded. The boy is a friend of my son's. He loved to drive and he loved his car. He'd gone for a drive right around sunset, texted a friend from the top of Gibralter at around 7 saying he was coming back down and would be meeting friends at the SB/DP football game.... but he never showed up. Friends assumed he'd just decided to go home instead. He hangs with a rather tame crowd and nobody thinks alcohol or drugs were involved.
COMMENT 339074	2012-11-04 03:06 PM
According to the victim's aunt, his father did call the police on Saturday morning and asked to have his phone traced, but they said they couldn't (or wouldn't). He then activated the tracing feature himself and found that the phone was on Gilbralter road. He again called the police but they still would not investigate and was effectively told to find him himself. He then drove to the location, saw skid marks on the pavement. After calling again, his call for help was finally taken seriously. He scrambled down the cliff where the vehicle was barely visible and found his son alive and conscious and then climbed back up to flag down the emergency responders when they arrived. You would think that the police would at least investigate a report of a teenager whose phone was detected on a dangerous mountain road after he hasn't been heard from for over 16 hours. Thank God that his father went out and found him, they were told that he wouldn't have survived a couple more hours.
COMMENT 339077P	2012-11-04 03:25 PM
Very scary. I am glad things worked out ok. I feel for the dad. SB Police is often not very helpful. Don't know why that it considering their logo is "Dedicated to Serve". I had a neighbor not too long ago that didn't follow her normal pattern and didn't answer her door or the phone. Requested a welfare check and the SB PD refused to come. Two days later, she was found dead. The welfare check may have saved her life. Good for you dad for taking things into your own hands. Hopefully the boy has a speedy recovery.
COMMENT 339073	2012-11-04 04:13 PM
If that was one of my kids (who have curfews and come home every night) and the police wouldn't start helping me find them the minute I felt it was urgent enough to call.... I'd be beside myself with frustration and anger. I have heard that a teenager isn't officially "missing" until they are missing for 48 hours. And yes, this boy's surgeon told friends and family that if it had taken another hour or two he would very possibly have died from his injuries. There MUST be a way that the police can help us keep our children safe when there is reasonable concern expressed by a family member or friend. How tragic that if this kid's phone battery was dead, he might be too.
ROGER DODGER	2012-11-04 04:37 PM
It's all my fault I shouldn't post these anymore.
COMMENT 339073	2012-11-04 05:05 PM
Roger, you didn't do anything wrong. We love you!
COMMENT 338854P	2012-11-04 06:22 PM
074, thanks for giving us more of the story! It's human nature to wonder what happened and these message boards are people speculating. I'm sure that I can speak for all of us when I say that we are glad that his father had the ability to track his phone and so glad that he found him! Unfortunately the police require time before they will let you report someone as a missing person and teenagers so often do uncharacteristic things and many run away, or stay out all night without checking in, at least at some point.
COMMENT 338854P	2012-11-04 08:17 PM
Wow @ that picture! So scary :(
COMMENT 338931P	2012-11-05 03:46 AM
No matter what really happened, after seeing what that car looks like I am surprised that anyone got out of it at all, never mind alive.
COMMENT 338854P	2012-11-05 07:14 AM
Yup, I would say he had his seatbelt on for sure! Glad he's going to be okay and that the real story is a good one and doesn't match all the suspicions many of us had
COMMENT 339198	2012-11-05 07:55 AM
Mustang, enough said. These parents need to stop giving their kids cars that have that much power. If they are solely driving it on the street, its completely obvious what they are doing with it. Give them a civic or a miata and make them learn how to drive a slow car first.
COMMENT 339375	2012-11-05 03:15 PM
Hey 339198: "re: Mustang" He was going DOWN Gibralter, so it wouldn't matter how powerful a car he had. But anti-lock braking might help.
COMMENT 339198	2012-11-05 07:06 PM
375: Antilock braking? Learn how to brake before the turn. And don't do it going down a road like gibraltar. And do it in a car that actually handles like a car, not a mustang/freightliner.
COMMENT 341091P	2012-11-09 03:00 PM
http://www.thechargeraccount.org/?p=15331 The father did call the police but police would not look since not enough time had passed. Driver probably did not use phone to call himself due the head injury that required surgery and several days int he icu.

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