COMMENT 339113P
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2012-11-04 06:55 PM |
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Just my opinion: Bummer. There is nothing like tobacco after concentrating for hours on some tiny complex system whether it is organic or man made. Even nonsmokers should be able to agree on this. But I am a random smoker.
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COMMENT 337898
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2012-11-01 11:08 AM |
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I just hold my breath around people, whether they are smoking, sneezing, coughing, until I am as far away as possible. I kinda like smelling cigarette smoke, alittle, once in a while, it reminds me of my chain smoking father. Once when I hid them, he pretty much had a fit. It goes hand in hand with drinking. Lovely.
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COMMENT 337858
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2012-11-01 09:56 AM |
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@337654 You misunderstand basic energy accounting. An obese person consumes, and sequesters, more carbon, reducing global warming, up until the point they start losing weight or die and rot ... it's all balanced, except for the burning of fossil fuels, which releases carbon that has been sequestered for millions of years, eventually returning the Earth to the temperatures of the Jurassic that were too hot for any human to survive for more than a couple of hours. (This is not an exaggeration -- google "dew point".)
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COMMENT 337806
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2012-11-01 08:21 AM |
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You can designate that the moon is made out of green cheese but it doesn't change anything. SBCC is a smoke free campus with designated smoke areas and signs forbidding smoking all over campus. And yet kids still smoke where they want, right in front of the no smoking signs in so many cases while instructors and employees walk past ignoring the violations.
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COMMENT 337802
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2012-11-01 08:05 AM |
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sbcc is a smoke free campus
but the school supplies smoking areas ????
go figure
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ROGER DODGER
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2012-11-01 06:29 AM |
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@745 But being a freeloader is cool to you huh? Wow I wanna be just like you whoopi doodoo....
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COMMENT 337778
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2012-11-01 06:02 AM |
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The gov makes more money off a pack of cigs than the evil tobacco companies.
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COMMENT 337777P
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2012-11-01 04:36 AM |
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774P, typical. Now they have the 'smoke free campus' signs with designated smoking areas. This is not much better then what you describe. The kids still smoke wherever they want anyway.
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COMMENT 337774P
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2012-11-01 02:26 AM |
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@742P. Years ago, I used to take aerobics' classes at SBCC. Every so often, small groups of smokers would gather just outside the open door (we needed all the fresh air we could get!), and the smoke would drift into the room. The dance teacher, whose room was next door, would come outside and smoke with some of her students. I would go outside and politely ask the smokers to move. After more than a few instances of this unwanted smoke, I asked the administration to put up "No Smoking" signs outside the gym doors. Instead, the solution they came up with was to remove the benches that were there. Some solution, eh?
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COMMENT 337753
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2012-10-31 08:59 PM |
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Hard to understand those who refuse to understand. Smokers are addicted to smoking as alcoholics to drinking. Hard core smokers aren't going to believe the collateral damage any more than a drunk will know what he's doing to his family or himself.
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COMMENT 337750
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2012-10-31 08:45 PM |
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725, it's actually illegal to deny someone insurance based on height and all she needs is to get her doctor to write a note to the insurance company saying she's in good health and you shouldn't have a problem. This is the game the insurance company plays...and it is across the board for anyone. They deny coverage based on ONE thing and then you have to jump thru hoops before they accept you. They are counting on no follow up. This goes for clinically obese in perfect health get denied, too. But weight alone (or height) is not a legal factor to deny insurance. Health risk based on actual medical tests and blood panels is. If your gf has a pre-existing health condition, that's difference and clearly not on the basis of her stature. Also just a nitpick, but skinny people get cancer and diabetes, too.
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COMMENT 337743
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2012-10-31 07:46 PM |
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The ironic thing about smokers, overeaters, alcoholics, etc, is that they don't really end up paying for their misdeeds. Say its a freedom to choose, yet still choose to have health insurance? May pay a higher insurance premium, but we all know that miniscule amount never covers the cost of something like a major heart surgery, cancer treatment, diabetes medication for life, etc. My girlfriend was denied health insurance due to her small stature and weight. Totally healthy, but out of the "normal" range. How is that fair? I have no problem with someone smoking, but stop whining about not having a good, easy life handed to you, when you choose to live that way. After quitting smoking, I see why people stared. It's a complete waste of your life, and they can't imagine how someone would waste their's doing that.
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COMMENT 337777P
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2012-10-31 07:42 PM |
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I wish the Community College system had the backbone to do this.
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COMMENT 337735
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2012-10-31 07:16 PM |
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People have become over sensitive to the issue. While this is good for some, its more than a bit over bearing and draconian to be issuing outright bans on legal products. I wonder how or if some of you could travel to other countries or even states. You certainly couldnt travel in Europe, South America or Asia due to the large number of smokers in public and beyond. I personally find this type of visceral reaction to mostly harmless circumstance to be irrational and annoying.
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COMMENT 337750
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2012-10-31 07:11 PM |
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@683, sorry mate. Your argument doesn't hold water in the least. An obese person takes in LESS air than a fit person (lower lung capacity, just like smokers) and lungs are the same size more or less from person to person independent of weight. @717, how do you equate liberal with my comments about second hand smoke? It's not about politics, it's about logic and common sense, not to mention proven fact about carcinogens and asthma. You have no clue what my political affiliation is but going there isn't helping your argument any. If anything, you're saying liberals are more factual than you are, ha! Also, why talk about smoke that is so far away from you that you can't smell or breathe it? Are UC campuses that sparse in attendance now? Because I think we both know the issue is second hand smoke under windows and in common areas that IS breathed. Stop trying to deflect, this is a real issue.
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COMMENT 337726
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2012-10-31 06:45 PM |
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Been on both sides of this equation. It is a choice to smoke (although unfortunately also addictive more so then Heroin) It is also a choice to walk near a now secluded for smoking area. the choice is to the independent indivisual. Be your own worst enemy. Smokers have been segragated to accommodate already, now it seems they need someone to make up their mind for them. I smoke hate the smell. But it is still a choice I get to make in an area already predesignated for me. I also noticed that the areas located for smoking are not sheltered from sun wind or rain at SBCC so skin cancer runs a high second...still a choice. When it comes to health care costs sodas and High fructose corn syrup may have smoking beat or at least compares.
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COMMENT 337743
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2012-10-31 06:35 PM |
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Saw over 5 people smoking at the tables outside the arbor in the course of 2 hours today. Completely nasty while trying to eat your food. If people could exercise some common courtesy, I'd have no problem with it. Plain and simple, they can't. I used to be a smoker, so I understand. It's really not that hard to wait until in a designated place. It's a choice to smoke, not a right. Those who choose to smoke choose to exercise no willpower and become slaves to that garbage.
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COMMENT 337721P
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2012-10-31 06:20 PM |
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re: chewing tobacco, spitting in public was outlawed around the time of the 1918 influenza epidemic, and due to tuberculosis transmission issues. Spitting's not good for public health either. -- a nicotine addict.
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SHOREBIRD
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2012-10-31 06:01 PM |
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The first thing that nicotine does is to kill the "am I harming others?" spot in the brain. Once that is gone it never comes back. It's clear from the equivocating smokers posting here.
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COMMENT 337709
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2012-10-31 05:54 PM |
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I know three people who have died from lung disease caused by smoking cigarettes. One was the non-smoking wife of one of the victims. It is a horrible way to live the last days of your life.
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COMMENT 337774P
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2012-10-31 05:43 PM |
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@ 647, 674. LOvE your comments! I still have some stickers somewhere from when I was campaigning against what used to be called "side stream" smoke (smoke coming off the end of the cigarette while it sat in an ashtray, say) and second-hand smoke. That was back in the 70s. (Can't remember the name of the group: GASP or ASH?) One of the most gratifying compliments I ever received was from a long-time friend (since elementary school); her parents both killed themselves prematurely by way of alcohol and smoking like chimneys. About 10 years ago, she said to me, "You know what? You were the first person I ever knew who was against cigarette smoking." Hooray, I say, for UC and every faction that has smoke-free environments. It has been a long time coming. Upon seeing this news, first thing that happened was I heard the theme from "Rocky" playing in my head. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
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COMMENT 337753
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2012-10-31 05:41 PM |
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Uh, 678. Plenty of evidence to support health threat of second-hand smoke. Where's your mythological evidence? Up in smoke?
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COMMENT 337750
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2012-10-31 05:33 PM |
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654, I can't even believe you think this is true. You should hang out with 657 who thinks second hand smoking is a myth. Science much?
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COMMENT 337700
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2012-10-31 05:30 PM |
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657, by that EXACT SAME ARGUMENT, who is the government to tell me that when someone else wants to smoke, it's just too bad that I have to breathe in harmful cigarette smoke. So, from your perspective, smokers have the right to harm themselves with smoke, but non-smokers do NOT have the right to decide they don't want to harm themselves with smoke. The thing about using logic like you did is that when you flip it and look at the it from the opposite perspective, you should still get the same result, otherwise you are not using sound logic...
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COMMENT 337688
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2012-10-31 05:07 PM |
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I will be just snorting coke then.
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COMMENT 337686
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2012-10-31 05:03 PM |
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Sweet! Great to hear.
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COMMENT 337685
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2012-10-31 05:02 PM |
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So 678 how would chewing tobacco affect your health? Do you second hand chew? The second hand smoke theory is a myth. You get more bad stuff driving on the freeway. This makes no sense "The University of California is it own jurisdiction"..ya nice try. What is that the city of ucsb?? It does not matter no one will enforce this rule. Once again more feel good rules that will have no effect...hahaha smoke if you got em!!!
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COMMENT 337684
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2012-10-31 05:00 PM |
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What took them so long? I am surprised that wasn't already banned.
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COMMENT 337683
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2012-10-31 04:58 PM |
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Obese person sucks down a 64oz Big Gulp. Gains another few pounds. Uses twice the oxygen and expels twice the carbon dioxide as a non-obese person. Global warming increases. Hurricane Sandy forms. Now no one in NYC can get anywhere for days. So don't tell me drinking soda and eating fatty foods has no affect on other people.
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COMMENT 337681
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2012-10-31 04:51 PM |
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If smoking only affected the smokers, as opposed to soda and fatty foods, then I'd say let them smoke where they want. But it affects everyone that shares the air with them, so I say, yay UC!
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COMMENT 337750
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2012-10-31 04:41 PM |
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673, except that other person drinking a soda isn't going to affect my health. Second hand smoke will. So yeah, I'm in favor of this. I'm not in favor for banning much of anything, but cigarette smoke on a UC campus? Yeah, it makes sense to me.
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ROGER DODGER
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2012-10-31 04:39 PM |
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Well then I'm proud to be a criminal! Prise thy almighty perfect Repubies! Former smokers of many products for thy can only show us dumb brain damaged souls thy way into their perfect likeness Although I to would rather go to HELL There are nicer people there! Mean People SUCK!
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COMMENT 337674P
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2012-10-31 04:36 PM |
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All you puffers will still be able to go out into a UC parking lot and lock your lips around an exhaust pipe for a drag of smoke.
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COMMENT 337673
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2012-10-31 04:35 PM |
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If you don't like smokers then DON"T SMOKE! This is similar to bannign large sodas in NY. Get off your freakin high horses and stop telling others what to do.
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COMMENT 337674P
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2012-10-31 04:34 PM |
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Excellent decision!
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COMMENT 337669
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2012-10-31 04:25 PM |
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662P - Smoking your "medicine" outside on campus is most definitely ILLEGAL.
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COMMENT 337662P
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2012-10-31 04:11 PM |
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They can't stop me from smoking my medicine thats still legal by state law and can't be banned from campus!
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COMMENT 337661
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2012-10-31 04:09 PM |
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At least we still get to choose what and when we get to eat.
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COMMENT 337659
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2012-10-31 04:05 PM |
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657 - County? The University of California is it own jurisdiction. anyways... Um... YAY!!! Smoking smell horrible and when you leave, you go home and still smell it.
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COMMENT 337685
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2012-10-31 04:01 PM |
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Dear government when is enough enough?? I dont smoke but guess what I dont think I have the right to tell someone else what to do. If you dont want to smoke...DONT! But don't tell me what to do to myself. This county is a joke now.
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COMMENT 337683
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2012-10-31 03:55 PM |
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I'd much rather stand next to 1000 smokers and suck in constant second-hand smoke than have to listen to the gawd-awful high-pitched whining from a single anti-smoker.
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COMMENT 337650
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2012-10-31 03:43 PM |
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Great news. If it wasn't for the intensely powerful addictive properties of nicotine, it's amazing that *ANYONE* still indulges in this anti-social, pointless and highly dangerous habit. Its not as if the health hazards, both for the smoker *and those who have to breathe their toxic exhalations* are unknown, despite the efforts of the criminally complicit corporate tobacco-traffickers. Future generations (if we haven't wiped ourselves out by then) will look back and scratch their heads in amazement at how *stupid* we can be.
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ROGER DODGER
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2012-10-31 03:42 PM |
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Pretty soon they will be banning vehicles..
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COMMENT 337647
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2012-10-31 03:39 PM |
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Thank goodness- I wonder how my stinky, smoking co-workers will handle this. Do they have to go into the parking lot or drive off campus to have their gross cigarette breaks now?-
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COMMENT 337644
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2012-10-31 03:36 PM |
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WOW, this is awesome. I wish it would be banned in all public areas too. I love the Free USA, and I also love not having to suck in second hand smoke.
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COMMENT 337681
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2012-10-31 03:35 PM |
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Good move UC. Sorry, I have a hard time feeling sorry for smokers that are losing places to smoke. Knowing all that we know about smoking now at days, I can't believe people still do it. It's not even something that you can do "in moderation", and it has harmful effects on those around you, it's just bad all around.
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COMMENT 337640
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2012-10-31 03:28 PM |
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639 guess you'll just have to eat a pot brownie now after your final.
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COMMENT 337639
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2012-10-31 03:24 PM |
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Wow, glad I already graduated, what a joke! So, after a 2 hour long final exam that you've been studying for weeks for, you have to go all the way off campus to have a smoke? I remember coming out of finals and seeing students with their smokes already in their mouths before getting out the door!
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