COMMENT 331651P
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2012-10-15 04:31 PM |
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As I was going to say in Roger's Alert thread, who WANTS to hike in this heat?! Is it actually pleasurable?
and i remember the woman about 5 years ago whose dog died of heat stroke.
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COMMENT 331653
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2012-10-15 04:37 PM |
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Nice report !! What a lot of people seem to forget is that the temperature on the mountain trails can be 10 to 20 degrees hotter than down in the city. Bring lots of water !! Also, drink a little every 10 minutes. The water does you no good in the bottle !!
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COMMENT 331656P
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2012-10-15 04:42 PM |
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Seems like most trail rescues are during the weekdays. Maybe as a precaution, just hike on weekends?
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COMMENT 331670
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2012-10-15 05:16 PM |
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Using a helicopter to evacuate an over-heated 65 year old naive hiker is overkill.Far more risk than benfit to the crew and all concerned. Drink some water and walk back down the trail for goodness sakes.
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S.B.RON
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2012-10-15 05:26 PM |
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Common sense would dictate not to hike San Ysidro beyond the waterfall at 1pm when the ambient temperature up there is probably over 100.
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NATURE BOY
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2012-10-15 06:20 PM |
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656P: I don't get your logic. Or were you being funny? Hiking on the weekend can put you at as much risk as hiking on a weekday, if temperatures are high.
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COMMENT 331710
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2012-10-15 07:12 PM |
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That advice from the Montecito Fire Department to wear wicking synthetics is bass-ackwards for dry & hot climates. When it is very hot and dry, it can be an advantage to have cotton clothes on because wet clothes will help you stay cool. Park Rangers in the desert southwest know this and often give out this advice. When you are really in trouble and near heat exhaustion, take your cotton shirt off, soak with water, then put it back on! If you had a synthetic shirt on, it would dry off quickly and you'd quickly lose the benefit!
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NATURE BOY
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2012-10-15 07:29 PM |
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Good point on cotton, 710. I never understood why some people recommend moisture-wicking clothing. We sweat for a reason -- to cool us down when we're overheated. Why remove sweat-moisture from our skin? It's there for a reason. I did a quick Google and couldn't find any confirmation of this, but it seems logical. Why reverse the biological benefits of sweat?
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COMMENT 331719
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2012-10-15 07:41 PM |
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It would also be nice if front country hikers didn't sneek off the trail onto our property for a pee and leave their TP to fly in the wind. As well as walk their dogs on our private roads as opposed to the trails, yet yell at us private property owners to slow down when driving on them and approaching their dogs! Accidents happen in all their flavors, let's be thankful for SB search and rescue.
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NATURE BOY
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2012-10-15 07:47 PM |
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RICHY: Which private road do you live on where these things are happening? Maybe mentioning it would help educate hikers to steer clear.
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NATURE BOY
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2012-10-15 08:04 PM |
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Although, if people feel that someone is driving too fast, it is acceptable to suggest that those drivers slow down, whether it's a public or private street. Basic driving laws apply no matter what the location, no?
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COMMENT 331725
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2012-10-15 08:09 PM |
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Come on, folks, it's over 90. Hydrate, rest regularly, and use some common sense. As for why people would want to hike in the heat, I used to love it back when I was in shape. (A shape other than round, that is.) Triple digits on a weekend and I'd be up in the hills every time. Carrying 4-8 liters of water, electrolyte tabs, snacks, etc. Covered in sunscreen and wearing a floppy hat. I'd spend all day on my favorite 12 mile loop and only see a couple other hikers because most people were at home, sitting under AC vents.
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COMMENT 331767
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2012-10-16 06:14 AM |
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Why not cotton? If you google layer clothing hiking, you will find many articles that talk about the importance of layering when walking or hiking. They indicated that the base layer of clothing should not be cotton and why. Talk to any salesperson at REI or other outdoor specialty sports stores, and you will be told the same thing. Layering is essential. One such online article indicates that the first layer should "draw sweat away from the skin so it can evaporate and cool you without making you feel wet and clammy." You're welcome. 725 - Good tips on the floppy hat and sunscreen. The article's tips missed those - sunscreen is ESSENTIAL!
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COMMENT 331788
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2012-10-16 07:24 AM |
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At some point we will have to start charging these people for the rescues as more and more of them occur due to foolish decisions on the part of the hikers. I know S&R doesn't want to do that because it will discourage people from calling for help but the way it is now, the financial burden is shifted to the people that are hard at work while the rescued people are out at play. Plus can you imagine how much it costs? Let's say $100/hr for each rescuer and who knows how much for the helicopter- $500 minimum. That might discourage a few people from hiking in the heat.
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