ROGER DODGER
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2012-09-29 11:52 AM |
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700 Block of East Mountain Drive area, Cold Springs Trail. Heard there was one allergic reaction to a bee sting, then heard there might be another victim..
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COMMENT 325858
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2012-09-29 11:52 AM |
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Another unprepared hiker. I just don't get it.
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ROGER DODGER
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2012-09-29 11:52 AM |
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Calling this The Cold Springs Incident.
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ROGER DODGER
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2012-09-29 11:53 AM |
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Just wait till I go up there..
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COMMENT 325858
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2012-09-29 12:08 PM |
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No.... I bring a freakin EpiPen because i also am allergic to bees.
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COMMENT 325871
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2012-09-29 12:14 PM |
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I think we all have trouble putting our era versus the one we grew up in into relative perspective. Sure, calling on a cell phone to get help for a bee sting was not something us 30, 40 or 50 year old plus folks grew up learning to do. Because we could not.
But if our parents could have used a device to call for help if we were in danger, or taught us how to, or raised us with such a device, then we would have. There was a time when folks did not have a car, or a wagon, or a buggy, or shoes, or trails or tracking skills. But, whatever you had, and whatever the threat, if danger arose, you sought help.
Why should we pile on people just because of the era they live in and the tools they avail themselves of? There is so much meanness nowadays. Maybe for those who decry the wasted resources, there could be some effort to put classes together for casual hikers to learn common safety precautions and kit items for such episodes.
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COMMENT 325875
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2012-09-29 12:18 PM |
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As a cyclist, insect stings are common. I usually don't have a problem, but I carry Benadryl in the sub-lingual form in my wallet for emergencies. I've been able to help half a dozen people just by having it.
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COMMENT 325876
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2012-09-29 12:18 PM |
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Maybe there was a problem with THEIR EpiPen that they brought with them. Gosh people are so quick to judge these days! I'm sure glad our emergency personnel are not this judgemental.
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COMMENT 325881
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2012-09-29 12:24 PM |
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If someone needs help, they need help! I'm pretty positive they receive a bill as well when services are rendered...I did when my daughter received emergency services. My husband is deathly allergic to stings. He works around plants and flowers everyday. He used to leave his epi pen in his truck because he very rarely got stung, and he usually had time to get back to it. Until the time he almost didn't. He now carries it in his pocket. Maybe the person in this instance didn't realize how allergic they were, maybe they were trying to help the second person and didn't realize they were stung. Whenever there is a post about a hiker, there are so many quick to complain about how unprepared, or how people shouldn't call for help. How many times now have these called led to people in serious trouble?
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COMMENT 325883
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2012-09-29 12:26 PM |
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People, stop with the blame!! You can become allergic to bees at any time. Perhaps this was a first reaction for the hiker after being stung before without any allergic response? And doctors don't prescribe epi-pens unless there's been a confirmed allergic response or a reasonable expectation of one happening. The adrenaline in an epi pen can be a lethal weapon if someone isn't in need of it in a true emergency. If that's not enough info for you guys, epi pens can stop a severe attack but they often cannot stop it enough to control airway constriction and there is a rebound effect from adrenaline, so even if you HAVE one and use it doesn't mean you are out of the woods. If you want to complain about preparedness, at least know what you're talking about first!
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COMMENT 325890P
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2012-09-29 12:36 PM |
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I guess this means there weren't any Aussies hiking with them.
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COMMENT 325909P
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2012-09-29 01:12 PM |
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890P for the win!!!!!
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COMMENT 325916
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2012-09-29 01:21 PM |
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Also, one dose of the epi-pen usually isn't enough, you need to get to the hospital asap to be assessed and likely given another dose. You don't go from anaphylactic shock to just fine and continue merrily on your hike.
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COMMENT 325925
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2012-09-29 02:01 PM |
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883P Thank you! You are spot on. This is a terrible situation and the first time is always a surprise, anyone can become allergic. Medical assistance is needed asap! Anaphylaxis happens extremely fast. If diagnosed with a bee venom allergy, it is possible to be treated with immunotherapy to help prevent future reactions. I really hope this hiker is going to be ok!
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COMMENT 325881
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2012-09-29 02:21 PM |
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So true, my husband follows up his epi pen with benedril. He always feels sick from the epi pen. On some occasions he needs to go to the hospital after, depends on how soon he got the shot after the sting and what stung him.
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YIN YANG
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2012-09-29 02:37 PM |
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Thanks for the several factual posts re: allergic reactions.
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COMMENT 326024
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2012-09-29 05:25 PM |
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Doggone it, 890! I was eating a nice grated zucchini-tomato-cucumber salad (good veggie garden this year) and I nearly spewed a mouthful of masticated goodness 1/2 way across the room! That's one of the best laughs I've had in ages. Thank you.
Everyone: Would you go scuba diving without a watch or mountain biking without shoes? Would you snow ski in the dead of winter wearing only shorts? Would you drive the most dangerous off-road road (Bolivia's "Road of Death") in a vehicle with no brakes?
There is such a thing as being careless and then there is pure stupidity.
You don't hike without water, you don't hike up a hot trail on the hottest day of the year (unless you're a fire-fighting smoke jumper). You DO carry a map if you're not familiar with the area, and if you can remember to take your cellphone, you sure as heck can schlepp along emergency items you may need.
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COMMENT 326224
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2012-09-30 10:01 AM |
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Preparation of adventure today consists merely putting 911 on your cell phone's speed dial and letting someone else pick up the tab for your own self-inflcted folly. Wash, rinse, repeat.
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COMMENT 326286P
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2012-09-30 12:06 PM |
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Actually, its even worse than carrying a cellphone. People are now buying and carrying SPOT personal trackers, and activating the emergency button, which triggers all out helo rescues. "Oh, my mountain bike has a flat tire." http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=101 Yuppie Rescue Kit.
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