COMMENT 325539P
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2012-09-28 04:35 PM |
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That is a leash only area.
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COMMENT 325541
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2012-09-28 04:40 PM |
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I've run into a woman with a loose pit bull there before who was super obnoxious (both the dog and the woman). Time to crack down on the dangerous breeds being loose on the 'leash only' beaches.
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COMMENT 325548
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2012-09-28 04:46 PM |
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they are only as dangerous as they are raised to be 5541
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ROGER DODGER
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2012-09-28 04:47 PM |
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Animal Control was on the way but I heard a cop say he was code 4 with the dog and it's owner..So nice of people to let their mean dogs off leash at the beach..
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COMMENT 325562
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2012-09-28 05:12 PM |
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541: How about we crack down on people who lets their dogs run loose on leash-only areas, regardless of breed? I personally hate chihuahuas (yappy little things) but wouldn't expect someone to pass a law because I don't like them. No reason this dog should be loose - and that's the owners fault. Course it sounds like this person shouldn't be allowed to have pets.
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COMMENT 325566
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2012-09-28 05:17 PM |
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@325548 - This is a tired arguement. Just like with people, your uprising doesn't determine 100% of your actions. It's a combination of genetic predisposition & environment. It's perfectly possible that a perfect owner has an aggressive dog, and a horrible owner has a passive dog.
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COMMENT 325569
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2012-09-28 05:22 PM |
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But a perfect owner with an aggressive dog wouldn't have it loose, especially in an on-leash area. And passive dogs can be a menace, too. I'm sick of running into dog owners who, WHEN ASKED DIRECTLY, lie and say their dogs are perfectly friendly. And those dogs typically are not under voice control and won't come to their owner when called. My dog only runs loose with the dogs and owners I know.
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COMMENT 325576
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2012-09-28 05:38 PM |
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Thanks to all the comments helping me make my case. I've said it before and now I'll say it again. License the owners! It doesn't have to be a big deal. Not even a fee! Just sign a contract in regards to caring for the animal and responsibilities to the general public like bark control, poop scooping and leash laws. Simple. Have the contracts at the shelter and pet stores where people get dogs. Violate contract = we take animal back and give to someone who cares. Not willing? Love your 'freedoms'? Me too. So I'm free to deal with your barking dog or (God help your) biting dog in my own freestyle way, right? Right.
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COMMENT 325601
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2012-09-28 06:56 PM |
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It's a shame there are so many dog-averse people. They are going to have to learn to at least tolerate dogs, I would think, since there are now dogs everywhere. Dogs in car ads, dogs promoting sales of mattresses and toilet paper and you name it. There are more dog owners in the US now than at any time in history. Many householders own multiple dogs. We now have off-leash areas, mutt mitt stations, public dog bathing facilities, legal outdoor/patio dining w/ companion animals. There are big dogs, small dogs, therapy dogs, service dogs, mutt dogs and designer dogs. Frisbee dogs, Flyball dogs, Agility dogs . . . the list is endless. I am glad I have always loved dogs. And cats. And snakes. And spiders. And . . . it makes life so much easier.
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COMMENT 325576
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2012-09-28 07:25 PM |
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I love dogs and most other animals, including my kids when they were teenagers! And, I think we're not living in a perfect world. All dogs, and all dog owners, are not alike. Some are well behaved and fun to be around, and some are not. Owners, I mean. Dogs also. I think it's okay to ensure that animal owners don't let their pets negative behavior affect other people, whether others own, or even like animals at all. It's basic courtesy, such as picking up dog poop so someone else doesn't have to, etc. Even in the wild west someone shoveled up the horse dung. Lacking such courtesy is unfortunately very common. There's the rub. What are ya gonna do? License owners with contract. Done. No fee. Shrugging shoulders won't get it done.
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COMMENT 325616
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2012-09-28 07:35 PM |
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Just to confirm - was the dog a Pit Bull?
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COMMENT 325631
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2012-09-28 08:01 PM |
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601 Do mean adverse.
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COMMENT 325722
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2012-09-29 07:25 AM |
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It was a large loose pitbull chasing people. I had my kids at the beach and was glad the police came. The owner was a large tatooed man who did not seem to care that his dog was loose and threatening to people on the beach. Once an animal like this bites someone, it's too late to do much unless you have some firepower.
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ROGER DODGER
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2012-09-29 07:31 AM |
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Thank You for letting us know what was going on out there @722, alot of weirdos out there that think the rest of us should like with their hostality.
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RONNIEB
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2012-09-29 08:49 AM |
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My pit-bull mix is one of the sweetest dogs I've ever owned. Irresponsible owners are the culprits most of the time--won't pick-up after their pets, let them off lease where they shouldn't, encourage agressiveness, etc....
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FLICKA
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2012-09-29 09:49 AM |
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I think kids, dogs and horses should be well mannered. No matter how hard anyone argues about how an owner determines the dog's behavior, certain breeds have traits bred into them. Ever own a Lab? They don't let you forget they are bred to retrieve. The Pits have been bred differently than many other breeds. Sure, I've known sweet ones but when the occassion arrives they can get aggressive.
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COMMENT 325816P
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2012-09-29 10:35 AM |
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any of the pitbull naysayers ever consider the fact that traits can be bred into lineages within a species? have you heard of the russian fox domestication project that started in the 70's? they took the most docile and most aggressive foxes of the same species and put them in exclusive breeding selection programs. what do you end up with? two groups of the SAME BREED of fox, one docile, loving and domesticated. the other, a fire breathing devil of a human hating animal. again, grouping all animals belonging to a breed into a single abstract category (bad/dangerous) is a moronic, biased and self-serving oversimplification. trying to predict complex social behaviors (aggression and domination) based on breed is like saying all people of color are criminals because they make up a disproportionate population of the incarcerated. evolve your brains and learn to think critically please.
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COMMENT 325834
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2012-09-29 11:14 AM |
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All I know is that the big tattooed man with the off leash pit bull doesn't have to worry that my 3 year old will rip his face off, yet I must worry (being that I don't know this dog) that his dog may attack my child. As far as I'm concerned PEOPLE should be allowed to roam freely.
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COMMENT 325846
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2012-09-29 11:39 AM |
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Thank you 816 for presenting the SCIENCE. People need to educate themselves about this and stop making over-simplified generalizations. For example, why does it matter what the owner looked like? Are large tattooed men more dangerous or irresponsible as dog owners? All living things can be bred to have specific characteristics. How do you think all these different dog breeds got to be so distinct? Many dog breeders SELECT for specific characteristics and sell the rejects for a lower price. My mom's teacup toy poodle was a reject because she wasn't pure white (the puppy, not my mom!) Some pit bull breeders will select the most aggressive puppies and use the rejects for fighting bait. Not all dogs are a result of such selection. You can't make sweeping assumptions. Please educate yourselves.
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