COMMENT 324696
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2012-09-27 08:58 AM |
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So, are these warnings/sighting getting more frequent, or just more publicized? Can't tell if media availability bias is in effect...
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COMMENT 324697
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2012-09-27 08:59 AM |
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... wow - #696 took the words right from my keyboard -
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COMMENT 324700P
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2012-09-27 09:02 AM |
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Jus wonderin...maybe warmer water means more shark food closer to shore? warmer water = global warming?
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COMMENT 324702
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2012-09-27 09:04 AM |
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Warning: There be shark in the ocean. Really?
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COMMENT 324703
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2012-09-27 09:04 AM |
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Were the sailboats racing yesterday evening? I wonder if they saw the shark too? I have been here for 25 years and have seen sharks in the water many times. But I had no idea that you are suppose to report the sightings. I just figured that it's the ocean and yes, sharks live in the ocean.
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COMMENT 324708
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2012-09-27 09:10 AM |
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This has nothing to do with global warmings rather it is specifically linked to the protected seal rookery in Carpinteria. Due to overzealous protection the area is overrun with seals which just so happen to be one of the Great White's favorite meals. The seals are not in need of any sort of protection in this area to begin with (historical fact) and the area must be opened to the public year-around effective immediately. This has become a public safety issue and is tarnishes the safe reputation of the area beaches. Momentum is growing to end the beach closure and end the harassment by the Seal Watch volunteers who monitor the area and pester beach and ocean goers.
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COMMENT 324710
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2012-09-27 09:13 AM |
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hmm... someone surfing sandspit without a huge swell? doubtful. Or were they stand up paddling?
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COMMENT 324718
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2012-09-27 09:17 AM |
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just in time for the hurricane swell at the sand spit! AWESOME!
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COMMENT 324722P
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2012-09-27 09:20 AM |
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Just in time for the Carpinteria Triathlon on Sunday. Ocean swim, anyone?
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COMMENT 324723
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2012-09-27 09:20 AM |
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It's not because of climate change, unless you count the political environment. Since the fishing ban on white sharks and the closure of inshore gill netting, you have virtually removed all predation efforts on white sharks. Combine that with the marine mammal protection act and you get a growing, protected predator population coupled with an explosive growth of food source (seal, sea lions), of course you are going to have more sightings. Now here is where it gets fun, what do we do? Limited tags and lottery system for white shark depredation permits or pinniped removal licenses? Or do we just accept the fact that sharks are part of the environment and when you enter the ocean you enter the food chain? As a spearfisherman, I say, keep your eyes open and make sure you swim faster than your buddies.
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COMMENT 324726
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2012-09-27 09:24 AM |
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I see sharks everytime I paddle out, especially at Rincon during bigger swells. If you paddle out, you WILL die!
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COMMENT 324729
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2012-09-27 09:28 AM |
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First, there was swell last night and Sandspit was small, but surfable. The breakwater is closed right now for construction, so people have to paddle down from in front of the YC, boat drop off or use less legal access. What I find interesting is I saw the surfer, riding a funky wedge tailed CI twin fin with a row of central smaller fins (there was only one guy out at 5pm), but when we came back in the harbor about 6:30, there were 2 guys surfing. Either he didn't inform the other recent arrivals, or they didn't care or he and his buddy wanted it to themselves.
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COMMENT 324734
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2012-09-27 09:32 AM |
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324726: Then how come you're not dead?
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COMMENT 324737
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2012-09-27 09:37 AM |
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He is a LONG time shaper, surfer, waterman, surf instructor from the 70's or even earlier.... He saw the shark 2 times, the second time the shark was able to feed on what it was chasing... He is a reputable witness to an amazing, natural event that happens every day in the ocean. People need to allow nature to work, stop rescuing shark bit seals and sea lions, and allow them to continue on their northern migration. We have a bunch of hungry sharks that are frustrated at not being able to feed, with lots of pinnipeds out there... bad recipe for them to continue to hang around....
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COMMENT 324739
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2012-09-27 09:40 AM |
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Keep the seal rookery. There needs to be part of the beach that is not overrun by humans (and our unleashed dogs.) And why a sighting off the SB breakwater should be due to the presence of the on-going for years presence of the Carpinteria rookery is mind-boggling. As for the greater number of reports of white shark sightings, it would be very interesting if there's an in depth serious report. Someone has called for that on Noozhawk.Their reporting is reputable and, hopefully, there will be an analysis.
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COMMENT 324741
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2012-09-27 09:44 AM |
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I wish we could fish for these sharks. I'd be out there right now chugging a cold one on the boat waiting to get a trophy. Wonder if great white shark tastes good smoked?
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COMMENT 324746
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2012-09-27 10:01 AM |
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50 bucks says it was a dolphin. I was out there from 5 to 7 in an outrigger and didn't see anything but dolphins and sailboats.
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COMMENT 324751
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2012-09-27 10:13 AM |
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708: there actually is a swell. Remember, its better to remain silent and be thought of as a tool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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COMMENT 324759
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2012-09-27 10:21 AM |
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Personally, I am more afraid of jelly fish and tourists flopping around than sharks.... I see a ton of sharks at Jalama too... don't ever go in the water there. However, for some reason, I never see sharks down in Malibu... Must be a tide/current issue.
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COMMENT 324763
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2012-09-27 10:30 AM |
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Can't believe nobody said it yet...."We're gonna need a bigger boat."
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COMMENT 324769
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2012-09-27 10:41 AM |
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I think it's kinda cute how people think sharks here are new and that there's some kind of trend or that the seal rookery caused it somehow. Their numbers have actually declined in this area since the 60s and 70s (long before the rookery) but they're always out there. Shark week airs every year, then there are a ton of sightings and people talking about them. But really, for those of us in the water a lot, we see them ALL the time. Small sharks, medium sharks, and yes, occasionally a great white. What's funny to me is that this happens every year and nobody remembers it from one year to the next!
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COMMENT 324726
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2012-09-27 10:58 AM |
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There are great whites everyday in this town. Just because there isn't a warning doesn't mean they aren't there, but rather than nobody glaced in the water and saw it. Dun dun, dun dunn! They are gonna eat you all!!!!!!!
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COMMENT 324729
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2012-09-27 11:01 AM |
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769, do you support a protected seal rookery in Carp.? I'm 729, a surfer, sailr, kiteboarder, etc. and I believe there has been a significant increase in Whitey sightings the last 2 years. Sighting were not uncommon around the islands, but rare near the harbor and more populated areas.
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COMMENT 324722P
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2012-09-27 11:33 AM |
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I hear that humans taste just like chicken.
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COMMENT 324808
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2012-09-27 11:51 AM |
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How about a wetsuit with white letters stating "I am not a seal." Should deter sharks that are old enough to read, right?
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COMMENT 324741
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2012-09-27 12:13 PM |
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Time to put on a meat suit and go swimming at the harbor.
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COMMENT 324759
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2012-09-27 12:15 PM |
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I can't see the Sharks through all these signs man.....
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SHAKEY
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2012-09-27 12:59 PM |
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I'm watching a friends house just north of Henerys Beach , and this morning about 1:30 I saw something BIG jump out of he water, I see dolphins jumping all the time and no matter how hi they jump there is never a splash and this made a big enough splash that I could hear it. Maybe it was the shark heading towards Goleta ? It was close enouth to shore that it wasn't a wale.
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COMMENT 324853
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2012-09-27 01:07 PM |
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If I was a surfer and there was decent waves, I'd say I saw a great white too. Catch my drift?
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COMMENT 324871
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2012-09-27 01:36 PM |
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The situation is ripe for a shark attack outbreak. Surfers should use EXTREME caution. It's just a matter of time. And if you are foolish enough to paddle out, please leave a will behind for your family.
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COMMENT 324883
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2012-09-27 02:10 PM |
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Is the water depth really only 6' at the mouth of the harbor? That sounds very shallow, does anyone know?
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COMMENT 324886
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2012-09-27 02:15 PM |
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@883
That's 6' near where the waves are breaking, not at the mouth where the boats travel.
Sand spit breaks in really shallow water most of the time.
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ROGER DODGER
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2012-09-27 02:57 PM |
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@763 GET THE LANDSHARK!
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COMMENT 324918
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2012-09-27 03:00 PM |
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The surfer in question at Sandbar was my husband. His name is Davey Smith-a respected waterman in Santa Barbara and beyond. He knows the difference between a shark and a dolphin and was able to identify the white shark as female, because while she was heading straight for Davey (and attacked something else) her whole body surfaced. Davey was able to get out of her way and let her feast on either a large fish or a seal. She surfaced again and made it clear to Davey that she was NOT a dolphin. We were not going to bother reporting the incident-- however-- we had friends over for dinner last night who work with the Harbor Patrol and thus began the incident report. The reason Davey was alone out at Sandbar is because the breakwater walkway is closed, so Davey paddled down from the Yacht Club. For the record, we adore the ocean and agree with many of you who say that we enter it at our own risk- Sharks are out there and I'm just happy that my husband was unharmed by his encounter.
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COMMENT 324886
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2012-09-27 03:33 PM |
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Glad that Davey is still in the water and REALLY glad that fluffy did not make him dinner. Great surfer and goofy foot hero!
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COMMENT 324962
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2012-09-27 03:38 PM |
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Please, to identify the sex of a shark you need to have clear visibility of its claspers or lack there off on the belly. Not likely visible while surfing on top of the water unless a he/she/it did a full breach....also not likely.
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COMMENT 324871
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2012-09-27 03:50 PM |
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The shark was hungry, acting bitchy and was not paying for dinner. Clearly, a female.
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COMMENT 324982
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2012-09-27 04:00 PM |
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962 - I agree. Especially in 6' of water - pretty much impossible for a 14' shark to launch. But, perhaps he/she rolled over during the chase.
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YIN YANG
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2012-09-27 05:55 PM |
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975: Haven't gotten any lately? lol
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COMMENT 325043
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2012-09-27 06:15 PM |
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If Davey was the witness to this event then I believe it 100% . He is a humble honest man that would never make up a story like this. Thanks for the report T. We are all glad your husband was unharmed. Aside from being quite a scare it is quite a story.
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COMMENT 325098
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2012-09-27 08:17 PM |
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Dang it. The Breakwater is under construction for months (and probably more months). Now how am I supposed to see a Great White?
For those of you who think the seal rookery should go, I have only this to write: being anthropocentric is so unattractive. If nothing else, that rookery is a great teaching tool for school kids. They need to learn respect and love for all animals, seals and sharks alike.
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COMMENT 324741
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2012-09-27 08:23 PM |
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Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this bird for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad fish. Not like going down the pond chasin' bluegills and tommycods. This shark, swallow you whole. Little shakin', little tenderizin', an' down you go. And we gotta do it quick, that'll bring back your tourists, put all your businesses on a payin' basis. But it's not gonna be pleasant. I value my neck a lot more than three thousand bucks, chief. I'll find him for three, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. If you want to play it cheap, be on welfare the whole winter. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's just too many captains on this island.
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FLICKA
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2012-09-28 07:54 AM |
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So now some believe it's the seal rookery bringing sharks; good grief. So the Carp seals lure them into Santa Barbara, Goleta, Jalama? Get real! I think it was about 30 or 40 yrs ago when Jimmy Gray, a local diver, was bit by a shark; I suppose Carpinteria was responsible for that too.
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COMMENT 324871
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2012-09-28 08:30 AM |
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So a penguin is driving his car in the desert. All of sudden his car breaks down. Luckily, he's pretty close to gas station. So he waddles behind his car and pushes it to the gas station. He asks the mechanic to take a look and find the problem. Mechanic tells him to come back in 30 minutes. So the penguin is getting hot being in the desert and all, and decides to find something to cool him off. He goes in the convenience store and buys some vanilla ice cream. He eats the ice cream and makes a big mess on his face. Finally he goes back to the mechanic to find out the problem. Mechanic says," Looks like you blew a seal." To which the penguin replies, "No, no. It's just a little ice cream."
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COMMENT 325209
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2012-09-28 08:54 AM |
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Don't know how true it is, but have been in a few discussions lately regarding whites and their increased showings in close. One of the the theories went like this - due to heavy offshore commercial fishing and ocean current temps, there are not as many fish for the large young whites (juvies eat more fish than seals, they move up to the big meals as they get older), as also shown by the starving pelicans and other seabirds in the area. So they are coming in closer, and hunting more diligently in the area, looking for anything including young seals, dolphins, and most things they eat as full grown adults. Not sure if this lady shark fits the bill, but if she's pregnant, she would definitely be working overtime to eat...
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COMMENT 324741
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2012-09-28 09:35 AM |
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Seals = Bait
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COMMENT 324982
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2012-09-28 10:01 AM |
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209 - awesome
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COMMENT 325329
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2012-09-28 11:47 AM |
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When I die I've instructed my loved ones to spread my ashes at Rincon. If a shark cuts out the middleman, so be it.
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