COMMENT 324679P
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2012-09-27 08:22 AM |
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Psych 101: it's called "distancing." People will go way out of their way to point out why a misfortune that happened to others could never happen to them.
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COMMENT 324663
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2012-09-27 07:53 AM |
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online comments are exactly just that.... online comments. You can't get too worked up about them. Take them with a grain of salt and don't assume that people mean any disrespect to any decendents or injured on these trails. I think it's great when someone dies doing what they love versus in a nursing home, etc. It's just life. And, it's just edhat. Simmer down.
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COMMENT 324653P
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2012-09-27 07:39 AM |
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It's not a completely bad idea to close the trails that are far away from rescue, during really hot, dry times..... Too bad courses on survival and equipment can't be made mandatory. Similarly, in the Northwest, the under-prepared die, climbing in mountain-peak snow storms, and are saved, or their bodies retrieved, at great expense. There's always some way to underestimate Ma Nature.
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COMMENT 324612
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2012-09-26 08:34 PM |
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Close the trails - costs too much money for upkeep and saving people.
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COMMENT 324595
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2012-09-26 07:36 PM |
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Yes and just about 5 weeks ago a man died on the Jesusita trail while his wife and kids watched, and then had to hike the rest of the way out. Leaving him there dead in the dirt for the pro's to hike him out. A lot of dumb posts from Edhat readers were also posted on that one as well.
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COMMENT 324612
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2012-09-26 07:31 PM |
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dan39 Ashamed of what? We're commenting on the number of people having issues on a pretty basic trail. This is the 3rd on that trail in one week. It is just assumed that we hope this person is ok - of course everyone does. \Please don't assume you know what type of "shape" any of us are in. Rather than argue - this is a good time to remind everyone to take plenty of wather with them when hiking - and have an adequate map of the hiking area. A cell phone is a bonus in areas that have coverage. Maybe a reminder sign at the head of the trail?
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COMMENT 324578
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2012-09-26 06:46 PM |
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Just two weeks ago a 36 year old SB local died while hiking above Toro Canyon. She was a free diver and in better shape than any of you. Most of the comments here are from, forgive me, . . You people should be ashamed.
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COMMENT 324574
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2012-09-26 06:36 PM |
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Carry water while hiking? No way. It weighs too much, and, besides, it's too hot out to carry a lot of stuff.
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COMMENT 324571
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2012-09-26 06:32 PM |
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463: lifts from County airships like 308, Copter 4, Copter 2, etc are free of charge. Only Calstar charges (but they don't hoist). Search & Rescue and Engine 15 were hiking in. The hiker should have just sat down and waited. What a phenominal waste of resources. You think that 308 flies for free?? Fuel costs A LOT of money to get that thing off the ground.
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COMMENT 324566
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2012-09-26 06:27 PM |
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@447 ... in all my hiking & backpacking exploits, the French tourists are some of the toughest outdoor folks I've seen. They and the Germans seem to be the only ones willing to hike to the bottom of the Grand Canyon whereas all the fat Americans stay at the rim or ride mules down! I once encountered a French couple hiking comfortably in the middle of Titus Canyon while driving in Death Valley. Noozhawk reports the victim had heatstroke.
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COMMENT 324574
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2012-09-26 05:44 PM |
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Question: What did we call it, before people started calling it "the front country?" (Answer: "mountains.") I put "front country" right up there with "marine layer," "sundowners," and my personal choice for massive ick-factor: "June Gloom."
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COMMENT 324516
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2012-09-26 05:10 PM |
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If he's 45 minutes to an hour below the peak, then he's still on the Edison Road... Shouldn't need a copter to figure out which way is "down." (And I compassionately second the "backcountry" lol.)
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COMMENT 324492
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2012-09-26 04:40 PM |
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What did people do in situations like this before cell phones? Take care of themselves?
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COMMENT 324470
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2012-09-26 04:12 PM |
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I, for one, certainly hope this person is ok. It's called compassion people.
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COMMENT 324468
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2012-09-26 04:09 PM |
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In a seemingly unrelated inquiry on edhat....Does anybody know the best trail to take to get to Cathedral Peak?
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COMMENT 324463
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2012-09-26 03:59 PM |
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I think they do charge them. I know last season my buddy's wife broke her leg in BC tahoe skiing. They choppered her out and her bill was something like $15k.
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COMMENT 324455P
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2012-09-26 03:48 PM |
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453 you've hit on something there!
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COMMENT 324663
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2012-09-26 03:43 PM |
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just charge em. otherwise I want a free copter ride back to the beach next time I go hiking.....
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COMMENT 324452
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2012-09-26 03:42 PM |
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442: Backcountry, lol.
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COMMENT 324442
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2012-09-26 03:35 PM |
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Do you remember going to Disneyland or a carnival when you were little and wanting to ride the roller coaster, but there was a sign right before you could get on the ride that said, “You must be this tall to ride the roller coaster?” Well, I wish there was a way to measure a person’s fitness before they wandered off into the backcountry. The sign could read, “You must be this fit before you can hike this trail.” Just sayin’
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ROGER DODGER
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2012-09-26 03:23 PM |
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He is 45 minutes to an hour below the peak.
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ROGER DODGER
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2012-09-26 03:23 PM |
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Copter 308 Responding.
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