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 COMMENT 300163P helpful negative off topic

Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 12:42 AM

To make it even easier for you, because I'm a bee supporter:

"If you would like to have an SBBA beekeeper relocate the swarm, please call our Bee Rescue Hotline @ 805.699.6229"

Is it under "bee" or "honey" in the referral section? "Food" or "pets"? I'm looking right now. I have always had trouble with Edhat's search function. Is there a search button specific to "Referrals"? I'm not being snarky.

Ah. I read down the individual columns under "B" listed in "Referrals" instead of across. D'OH!
Here's the link: http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=57292

Thanks 160. You've obviously used this site a lot more than I have!

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 MACPUZL helpful negative off topic

Goodnight Moon

2012-07-22 12:44 AM

Great moon shot. I bet the kittens could find a way to play with it in the window.

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 COMMENT 300165P helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 05:30 AM

$80,000??? If ever there were proof that P.T. Barnum was right...

EIGHTY-THOUSAND DOLLARS??? For THAT hideous thing????

Gawd!

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 COMMENT 300166 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 06:05 AM

Give 12 vagrants 12 cases of beer, buy them 12 brushes, ladders, and cans of Rustoleum, and offer a bottle of their choice to the first one done. They will kick that out in three hours for under $500.

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 COMMENT 300167 helpful negative off topic

Sloooooow Internet

2012-07-22 06:31 AM

Been having the same intermittent problems out here in the goodland. What gets me is the amount of marketing material crap from cox we have to put up with everyday stuffed into the mailbox and through email. Maybe if they took a portion of their bloated marketing budget and applied it to their infrastructure and pricing, we wouldn't have to endure their rapidly ascending fees and shoddy service.

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 COMMENT 300168 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 06:47 AM

love that gate. Can't wait for the work on it to start.

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 COMMENT 300169P helpful negative off topic

Texting At Lunch

2012-07-22 06:48 AM

Buy one of these (I know it is expensive but it might be worth every dime) and watch everyone around you go nuts including your mom.

http://www.thejammerstore.com/cell-phone-and-wifi-jammer-crj4000.html

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 REXOFSB helpful negative off topic

The new 99-Cents Only store in Sant...

2012-07-22 06:56 AM

Roger for the win!

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 COMMENT 300171P helpful negative off topic

The Colorado shooting is sending sh...

2012-07-22 07:04 AM

I will think twice from now on before going to a big movie opening or pop-event. Just like it was years after 9/11 before I even got near an airport or plane.

I know it is irrational and that there will always be crazy people that do stuff like this, but this will have an effect on the movie industry. I already felt movies were too expensive and crowded and stressful to get there in time....and now this...

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 COMMENT 300172 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 07:12 AM

Another scam to pocket $$$ while appearing to 'do good work'...not unique to Stabarbaca.

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 COMMENT 300174P helpful negative off topic

Off Air

2012-07-22 07:13 AM

A few of my channels went black yesterday. Tried restarting Cox box and that didn't help. On the Mesa.

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 COMMENT 300175P helpful negative off topic

Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 07:19 AM

163: Interesting! I also tried and have not had problems with the search function and am grateful to it forToyota repair, but I could find nothing under various searches for bees, except searching in the search box that brought up the quote you referenced. Maybe someone should assemble the info on bees and submit it for the reference section?

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 COMMENT 300176 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 07:29 AM

If the money is privet, who cares, privet money spent on enything is good, If it is Tax money bring spent ,then I say scap it by the pound.

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 RAINE5360 helpful negative off topic

Kitten Toys

2012-07-22 07:38 AM

large cardboard box

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 COMMENT 300178P helpful negative off topic

Looking Down

2012-07-22 07:55 AM

touche, 101P.

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 COMMENT 300179 helpful negative off topic

Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 07:59 AM

sbba.org - if you are not a member and want to help bees you should join.

look at the contact page to find out how to get a hold of them.

And thank you for not wanting to call a pest control company to exterminate them!

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 COMMENT 300180P helpful negative off topic

Dead Body

2012-07-22 08:01 AM

This is such a scary area at night....and intimidating when you go to the library during the day. Individuals looking for a place to retire should be escorted to Casa Esperanza or another shelter where security and health services are offered.

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 COMMENT 300181P helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 08:01 AM

Who is the City employee that allowed a liability like that to be installed

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 COMMENT 300182P helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 08:06 AM

173 How do you know that? You have proof?

Re the gate, I think it's a bit out of place. Re the money, seems like an awful lot. Wonder who came up with that figure.... Surely some reputable local company who wants the work and the recognition could do it for less?

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 COMMENT 300183P helpful negative off topic

Dead Body

2012-07-22 08:12 AM

180P Agreed, but with so many homeless (assuming that's the case here) we'd have to hire buses.

Still, this was someone's bright-eyed baby at one time.....

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 ARTEMISIA helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 08:12 AM

176 - privet money? would that be a hedge fund?

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 COMMENT 300185 helpful negative off topic

Roger The Scanner Guy

2012-07-22 08:15 AM

@119 Helicopter parents would be in the water rescuing there kids.

You know it Shorebird!!!

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 COMMENT 300186P helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 08:17 AM

It, the gate, is probably a recognized and appraised valuable work of art, despite the opinions of those for and against.
That does not mean that the city has any $$ to restore it. In fact, the city /county of SB is deep in debt, and unless willing to sell holdings or clawback pension $$ from former public servants, this is a non-starter issue, much like the now infamous "blue line" art project a few years back.
I say, as long as the school system here is hurting for money, there can be no funds spent on frivolity like this gate.
Voters should think about things like this every time they prove of some new spending project or art install.

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 COMMENT 300187P helpful negative off topic

Not Running Yet

2012-07-22 08:17 AM

Where do you buy your heel stick?

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 COMMENT 300188P helpful negative off topic

Two Vandenberg beaches are a few st...

2012-07-22 08:18 AM

hm, relationship under review. the committees who are most dedicated to "saving" the bird have decided it's a separate species. confusing indeed.

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 COMMENT 300189 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 08:22 AM

After a quick google search, I discovered that this ridiculous amount of money isn't just for repairs. Although the money will be going to repainting, repairing rust, and rust-proofing the rainbow, it also will be used to set up a fund for future repair work. From what I have seen, over $20,000 has already been donated.

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 COMMENT 300190 helpful negative off topic

Off Air

2012-07-22 08:25 AM

I lost 8, 9,and 10 at 5:30pm yesterday, I called Cox tech support and suffered through their dismal automated support. After half an hour of useless "help" I managed to bring up a human, who was even worse. He tried to warn me that if they come out and the problem is with my cables I will be billed for the call, but for $5 a month I can "Buy" insurance.

Time to look into Dish. Cox is a miserable evil monopoly.

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 TED helpful negative off topic

Off Air

2012-07-22 08:26 AM

I'm in the middle of Goleta near Fairview- the 4 channels were off last night but they are on this a..m. (Sunday 8:30 or so a.m.)

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 SBJULES helpful negative off topic

Goodnight Moon

2012-07-22 08:27 AM

Beautiful crescent moon!

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 COMMENT 300193 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 08:31 AM

I donated and hope you all do to. It is lovely and now an affectionate part of Santa Barbara. Thank you to all who made this happen. It is a joy to follow this project of community involvment.

City regulations demanded the paint have very low environmental impact which is hard to find since it needs to hold up against salt air too.

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 COMMENT 300194 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 08:33 AM

Way cool 173, are you giving classes in ESP? I sure would like to know how to do that stuff!

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 SBJULES helpful negative off topic

Off Air

2012-07-22 08:33 AM

They were ok at my house, but I went to bed early.

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 COMMENT 300196 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 08:35 AM

Oh 176...nice to see the folks from Alabama contributing to the forum.

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 COMMENT 300197 helpful negative off topic

Off Air

2012-07-22 08:38 AM

I watched KCET last night from their over-the-air broadcast from 9 - 10:30 using an antenna. I gave up on COX and Dish. KOCE has been noticeably intermittent lately though.

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 GRACE helpful negative off topic

Off Air

2012-07-22 08:39 AM

Cox has a cable outage since last evening. It is still being worked on.

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 COMMENT 300199 helpful negative off topic

A homeless man who authorities susp...

2012-07-22 08:42 AM

I'm surprised the "homeless haters" aren't rallying in support of this guy. Perhaps because his attacks did nothing to improve the "quality of life" for our own homeful folks?

This message will be removed in .... 1..... 2....... 3......

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 COMMENT 300200 helpful negative off topic

Goodnight Moon

2012-07-22 08:43 AM

Nice!

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 COMMENT 300201 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 08:46 AM

Artemisia for the win! (Although it's not nice to make fun of other posters' inability to spell, that is funny!)

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 COMMENT 300202 helpful negative off topic

Table Refinishing

2012-07-22 08:51 AM

9949.... the hard part about refinishing your own furniture is not so much the sanding but the gooey mess disposal. Clothes get ruined, driveways and garage floors are stained and it's just dirty smelly work. It is also very tedious work so corners are cut when it's not progressing fast enough (it can take more than a couple of weekends) and these "mistakes" show clearly when the new finish is applied.

If you can afford it hire a professional.

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 MTNDRIVER helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 08:52 AM

Good one, Artemisia.

186P--City not paying, private (privet) funding for it. Those who like it can support it.

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 COMMENT 300204 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 08:56 AM

I wish those who are so thrilled with this piece could find a place for it where others like me don't have to ever see it or think about it again.

How about putting this controversial issue on a ballot.

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 COMMENT 300205 helpful negative off topic

Just Walkin' The Beach

2012-07-22 09:01 AM

I don't quite understand what you mean by an "EXCLUSIVE" shot of the Miramar raft? I posted one about a year ago.

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 COMMENT 300206 helpful negative off topic

Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 09:02 AM

Santa Barbara Beekeepers Association
1503 W. Valerio St.,
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
805.699.6229 Todd is very sweet and helpful. He migrated the bees in our retainer wall into a portable pine hive. It took 3 days to migrate; we gave them 5 days. Thans again SB Beekeepers Assoc.

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 COMMENT 300207 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 09:02 AM

most locals don't appreciate the gate because we were here when it went up and everyone thought it sucked from day one. In the medium of visual art, if you think it's ugly and out of place then that is how it affects you and that is as valid a critique as anything. Me, I'm a trained professional artist, and I think this thing is lame. Go ahead and hate it, you don't have to kneel down before Art. Some of it is actually quite bad, perhaps it's useful to have such a clear example of that right here.

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 COMMENT 300208P helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 09:14 AM

I'm going back to the money. $80,000! Someone slipped a digit. $8,000 should more than cover it. I'd find 'environmentally responsible paint' and do it myself for that much. If someone doubled the money to $16,000, we could do it again in 8-10 years, when it's needed again. $80,000 should pay for 'maintenance' (repainting) for the next 100 years if it's put in trust. On most public projects, there's no one watching the piggy bank, or negotiating for a reasonable price. $80,000? $80,000!!!

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 COMMENT 300209 helpful negative off topic

The new 99-Cents Only store in Sant...

2012-07-22 09:15 AM

Hey SBALAX, Ninty Nine Cents is a name, not a policy. And yes, you can find bargains, but it is certainly a sign of the times that demonstates lower cost of living for all, regardless if welathy people shop there or not.

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 COMMENT 300210 helpful negative off topic

Texting At Lunch

2012-07-22 09:20 AM

wow, cell phone jammer....i never knew of this.

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 COMMENT 300211 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 09:23 AM

@181 agreed. Who approved this installation in the first place? Did they consider the long term responsibility? Knock it over. It will make for some rainbow outfield seating for the softball fans and sleeping benches for the wandering homeless at night. Take it down. I was here when it was put up. I don't bond with it. Where is the "artist"...laughing all the way to the bank. $80,000 is a heck of a lot of money.

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 RESIDENT helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 09:23 AM

Shaggy pointed out that it isn't bouganvilla covered.

Actually that might be a good idea. It would cost a lot less than $80,000 to plant a few bouganvilla plants and, after a few years, the "gate" will be completely covered.

So - ugly "gate" no longer visible, no need to worry again about paint and fixing the rust and it now looks appropriate for Santa Barbara.

Problem solved

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 COMMENT 300213 helpful negative off topic

Texting At Lunch

2012-07-22 09:24 AM

Unfortunately good manners have slowly crumbled as technology progresses. Soon we will be at the stage of the cave dweller, when a thump on the head will pass as natural communication. Frustrated by his obvious irritation when I speak to my computer obsessed husband when locked into this machine with earphones clamped to his skull, I found myself passing a note yesterday evening, alerting him dinner was on the table!

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 COMMENT 300214 helpful negative off topic

Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 09:24 AM

glad to see that there are so many people who can conncet you with a bee person that will not kill the bees. we had a major bee hive in the wall of our home a couple years ago. the guy we called did not let the bees live and we had no bees last year here, and very few this year.

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 COMMENT 300215 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 09:27 AM

ummm, is it a gay pride thing? well, no matter what the thing is, why on earth is it 80,000 to paint the thing???? i know a few painting contractors that could go spruce the thing up for a whole lot less....even at prevailing union wage! seriously. that is a rediculous amount

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 COMMENT 300216 helpful negative off topic

In the wake of the Aurora, Colorado...

2012-07-22 09:34 AM

A skilled licensed carry could have taken him down before he shot 50 people. Prohibition breeds crime.

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 COMMENT 300217 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 09:37 AM

80K to repaint the arch, amazing!
Can you imagine what the schools or community centers could do with 80K for kid's art program? We need to look forward the future. This arch is like a cougar that's stayed to long at the party--- her lipstick is smeared, her foundation is cracking and she desperately need someone to pour her into a cab.

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 COMMENT 300218 helpful negative off topic

Kitten Toys

2012-07-22 09:39 AM

Plastic ring-pull tabs from milk cartons are my cats fave-- toss one in the air and he does back flips! Also any empty box large enough to climb into makes a fine cat cave.

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 COMMENT 300219 helpful negative off topic

Morning Titmouse

2012-07-22 09:41 AM

No, it didn't get the worm. It got my seed bell! They are one of my favorite birds to watch!

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 SUMMERTIME helpful negative off topic

Meet Carmel

2012-07-22 09:45 AM

I really don't believe 130 meant it as a "mean" comment.
Carmel looks like such a sweetheart....

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 COMMENT 300221 helpful negative off topic

Meet Carmel

2012-07-22 09:48 AM

Yes, please post more photos of your cat.

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 KDEF helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 09:52 AM

Could Mesa Jim provide the source of his $80,000 figure ? As I understand the fund raising project. it is under the umbrella of the Santa Barbara County Arts Commission which is collecting private funds for both the restoration.
of the arch and its maintanace.. No county or city funds are to be used. The Commission,s goal, I thought, was $30,000 for restoration with an additional $20,000 set aside for maintaince. The gate needs to be washed and waxed.

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 COMMENT 300223 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 09:52 AM

The discussion and disagreement in this thread prove the Chromatic Gate is doing exactly what art should do - be provocative, emotive and inspire discussion regardless of whether or not you love or hate it.

I personally don't like it from a "pleasing aesthetic" perspective, but completely love that it's something that's not Spanish themed with a red-tiled roof. To me, it represents at least the possibility this community will allow some deviation to that formula in the future.

And since it's being funded with private money, it's all good!

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 COMMENT 300224 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 09:55 AM

I wiil take it down and haul it away for free. I like it that much.

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 COMMENT 300225 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 09:56 AM

215 - Honestly, when I first saw it, that's exactly what I thought, that it was a gay pride thing. Let's face it, it's a total eye sore. We aren't a city of modernism, and something as large as this piece just doesn't fit at all. Very few people like it, especially the locals. Sell it for scrap and move on.

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 COMMENT 300226 helpful negative off topic

Texting At Lunch

2012-07-22 09:59 AM

Thanks, 169P. I'm like 210...didn't know. Seems rather cruel, more like a last resort than a first resort. Save it to use on a relative, friend, or neighbor you really DISLIKE.

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 COMMENT 300227 helpful negative off topic

Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 10:02 AM

Just call Paul Cronshaw. In the tel. book, for those who still use them.

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 COMMENT 300228P helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 10:09 AM

$80,000?!

Insane, City of S.B.

If this doesn't get the citizens screaming at the next City Council meeting, then everybody continue "bending over."

When's the ridiculous, free-for-all spending on pet projects going to end? Any bets?

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 COMMENT 300229 helpful negative off topic

Termites?

2012-07-22 10:10 AM

@035

Actually, some ants do have wings. You can google "ants with wings", as I did, and there are even images that differentiate termites from winged ants.

More commonly, queen ants bear wings, but they are quite big. Also there are carpenter ants and moisture ants that also have wings.

Anyhow, google or wiki ants.

:)

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 ARCHIE helpful negative off topic

Off Air

2012-07-22 10:17 AM

I sure "noticed" - on the Mesa. And if there is to be an omission, my recommendation is their onslaught of (needless) mail.

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 COMMENT 300231 helpful negative off topic

Exxon Mobil Community Summer Jobs

2012-07-22 10:28 AM

Could we have a link directly to the program? The article only includes a link to the overall website, and I can't seem to find anything that talks about how nonprofits or individuals can apply. Thanks for your help!

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 COMMENT 300232 helpful negative off topic

Missing The Target

2012-07-22 10:29 AM

99cent only store is nice and all, but it would be even more nicer if they supported local growers for fruits and vegetables.

Walmart is a bad idea....

Such stores like Walmart, destroy Mom 'n' Pop stores, steal customers from smaller businesses, it is just sad and disgusting...conglomerate giants make me sick, with the exception of those that actually care about the local environment...

Google "Walmart takes over" or "Walmart destroys" you will see an extended list drop down of popular searches...

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 COMMENT 300233 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 10:37 AM

Perhaps it could be installed in front of our new airport.

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 COMMENT 300234 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 10:43 AM

Some pretty narrow minds here, but diversity is one or social aspirations, right?The maligned sculpture certainly has a stunning perceived effect on people's quality of life. How do you let yourselves get so bent out of shape over an essentially meaningless piece of steel?

The costs may seem excessive, but remember the city has to pay prevailing wage, high end custom formulated paint is required, there is a significant amount of rust removal and steel repair. Lack of an endowment is what got us here in the first place so cough up five bucks and stop complaining. The solution is restoration, removal is not an option.

S'Auntie Barbara

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 D8VANILLA helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 10:44 AM

Why wasn't it rust-proofed the day it was installed????

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 REXOFSB helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 10:44 AM

I was against the stupid arch from its initial concept and was appalled when the ugly, gaudy, out-of-proportional monstrosity was built. But over the years as the vivid colors faded and the monstr...excuse me, "artwork," got a weathered look, it actually looked far better than it did when it was new. It no longer looks like a giganticized version of some schlocky trinket bought in Tijuana. I say leave it alone and don't do anything with it. Why call attention to it? It's far less offensive now.

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 COMMENT 300237P helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 10:49 AM

While we are talking aesthetics, who approved the buildings on the corner of Garden and Gutierrez? These ugly buildings not really the first things people should see when getting off of the freeway and entering the city.

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 COMMENT 300238P helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 10:51 AM

@233 has exactly the right idea--put it at the Airport. That would be a MUCH better venue for it. That way we wouldn't have to look at it all the time. Maybe while they're at it, they could also take the mural walls from the old Vons to the Airport?

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 EDHAT ONLINE helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 10:52 AM

Here is link to an old article on Edhat about the gate.

link


There is no mention of gay pride or Chumash legend, as is frequently stated.

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 COMMENT 300240 helpful negative off topic

Not Running Yet

2012-07-22 10:53 AM

Love your comments. I'll have to check out the ballet for sure. As for your running career, you have plenty of time to get back to it. I have also enjoyed it as a plus sized gal - the run/walk method is a huge mental boost for me.

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 COMMENT 300241P helpful negative off topic

Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 11:04 AM

Ask the honey-sellers at the Farmers Markets.

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 EZ2 helpful negative off topic

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 COMMENT 300243P helpful negative off topic

Lonely Goose

2012-07-22 11:18 AM

That's totally cool! I had a pet goose when I was a kid. She definitely was very social with our family. She also liked to groom me by wiggling her beak trough my hair. She was great fun and a good watch "dog". She would honk loudly if anyone came to the house.

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Lonely Goose

2012-07-22 11:18 AM

It's Love you made a new friend.

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 COMMENT 300245P helpful negative off topic

Lonely Goose

2012-07-22 11:26 AM

This may be a pet goose that was abandoned at the Lake.

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 ANIMALLISTNER helpful negative off topic

Lonely Goose

2012-07-22 11:26 AM

Poor goose. Sad that folks just dump their pets off at random lakes in Santa Barbara, where the animals are subjected to our native predators, doing their thing. Hope this sweet guy/girl finds a new mate very soon. Please keep us animal care takers posted.

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 JMAC helpful negative off topic

Mural Move

2012-07-22 11:31 AM

I've always thought the mural was ugly, but have a great appreciation for it and am very glad it was preserved. I do NOT understand though, WHAT they were thinking when they moved it so close to Chapala Street...it essentially creates a barricade, reminiscent of a freeway noise reduction wall. NOW I hate the thing.

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 COMMENT 300248P helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 11:32 AM

300223 - about the community "allowing" it. I wish this had been put to a vote before installation - otherwise it is just one group of people's decision to inflict something on others who do not like it. It is NOT about community. It would be nice if real community opinion would be taken into account before "renovation".

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 COMMENT 300250P helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 11:49 AM

Rainbows have curves, but the Rainbow Arch is all corners.

That's why I don't like it.

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 COMMENT 300251P helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 11:49 AM

Yes, it may not be taxpayers' money, but we taxpayers have to look at it. The nicest thing I can say is that I find the gate unoriginal. Part of the money raised should go to moving the gate to a less conspicuous spot.....how about the botanic garden or some other hidden park or place.....

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The new 99-Cents Only store in Sant...

2012-07-22 11:55 AM

Let's try to be positive about a new store that just opened in town. First of all the 99 Cents Only Store offers great brand name products such as Dole, Kraft, Kellogs, General Mills and more........and guess what? Does anyone know that they also have a , "Welcome to Club 99 where membership is FREE! Club 99 is 99¢ Only Stores’ Bulk Sales Program which provides you with the opportunity to purchase items by the case and in large quantities. Your order is shipped for FREE to the store of your choice." You can buy online or order at the store and this can help out small businesses or I should say our local businesses. There are NO SHIPPING OR HANDLING FEES, YEAH ONLINE SHOPPERS....... But regardless of these positives there are other great things about discount stores!!!

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Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 11:57 AM

According to yesterday's article in the News Press $48,000 has already been donated and the are looking for $15,000 more for maintainence. I am not sure where the 80K figure or that the city is footing the bill is coming from. Pubic art is always going to be controversial (except maybe Bud Bottoms dolfins because everyone loves sea mammals) and it is a piece from a important artist of the Bauhas School and worth restoring. If people never saw the piece in the original colors it may be difficult to visualize the full impact. It is possible that after the restoration some people may hate it less.

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Kitten Toys

2012-07-22 11:57 AM

Here's what I'd like: All the various suggested toys strewn about, turn your kitties loose, then post the video for us. Yippee!

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 COMMENT 300255 helpful negative off topic

Watch out for the P.O.

2012-07-22 11:58 AM

I have been into it a few times this year. There is a local company that makes a soap that saves me every time. Paradise Road poison oak & ivy soap. I get it at Mtn Air but I have seen it at Lazy Acres and several shops on State St. too.
It works, plus it is local and all natural.

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 COMMENT 300257 helpful negative off topic

Senior Alternatives, a Bay Area fir...

2012-07-22 12:08 PM

Senior planning services.
Experienced,
Helpful and Local!

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 COMMENT 300258 helpful negative off topic

Table Refinishing

2012-07-22 12:10 PM

Rex's woodworking on Haley... HE DOES AWESOME WORK...

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 COMMENT 300259 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 12:19 PM

The Gate is amazing. I'm glad many people have joined me in donating for its restoration.

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 COMMENT 300260 helpful negative off topic

Lonely Goose

2012-07-22 12:26 PM

Geese are one bird species that mate for life. This goose most certainly is lonely. Geese make great guardians of your yard, but you're right about them being a prey species.

I love chickens, ducks and geese, but have had a few horrific experiences with such pets being eaten/carried off. Best to leave this one at the Lake. Let's hope the human predators leave it be.

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 COMMENT 300261 helpful negative off topic

Watch out for the P.O.

2012-07-22 12:27 PM

Poison oak is just as strong an irritant green as it is red, though easier to spot. And beware of the stems too. Just because the leaves are gone doesn't mean the oils are gone too.

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Self-Service Garage Sale

2012-07-22 12:33 PM

The yard was still strewn with stuff when I cruised by at 6 pm which makes me think it's not a managed affair.

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 COMMENT 300263 helpful negative off topic

Morning Titmouse

2012-07-22 12:44 PM

An Oak titmouse. 5 inches from beak to tail's end. These little guys are one of the few crested birds commonly seen around SB. They can belt out a song that makes them sound like they're a whopper of a bird.

They really like black oil sunflower seed. Fun to watch, but you've got to be quick to catch a good look. Or a photo. Good job.

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Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 12:53 PM

If you didn't get a permit for the shed, DON'T disclose your address !!

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 COMMENT 300265 helpful negative off topic

Watch out for the P.O.

2012-07-22 12:58 PM

@261 Good tip for everyone. That was my first case of P.O., when a friend collected twigs, off road, enroute to Jalama Beach, to start a camp fire. Happily, I only brushed against the P.O. twig.

School nurse at SBCC didn't know what I had that was making my arm crazy itchy and swollen and red, but I figured it out soon enough. Eventually, I resorted to scrubbing my arm in a hot shower, using a loofa. Really helped.

One of the best laughs I ever got was when Parks Dept wanted to put signs ("Watch Out for Poison Oak") along trail leading up from Cliff Drive onto Wilcox property.

One lady stood up at the meeting and said, "Just let them find out what it is the way the rest of us did. Then they sure as heck will know to steer clear!"

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 COMMENT 300266 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 12:58 PM

$80,000 for a simple paint job???

OUTRAGEOUS!

I'd expect that 5 gallons of paint, brushes, rollers, dropcloths, and civic volunteer labor could do it all for under $500.

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 COMMENT 300267 helpful negative off topic

Looking Down

2012-07-22 12:59 PM

I so very much enjoy your frequent postings of wonderful local photos!

Thank you!

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 COMMENT 300268 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 01:00 PM

The last estimate for restoration was $35,000 ... who has their fingers in the pie THIS time ?

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 COMMENT 300269 helpful negative off topic

Fiona Flamingo

2012-07-22 01:01 PM

Poor little Fiona. What does she do----live at the Zoo?

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 COMMENT 300270 helpful negative off topic

Margeo Stiny Howell

2012-07-22 01:07 PM

I didn't know Margeo, but I will plant lots of zinnias (all started at home and grown from various varieties of seed) within the next day or two. I will think of her. She must have loved flowers.

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Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 01:08 PM

You don't say if they are honey bees, people just assumed. If they are wasps, be very careful around them. Best to call an exterminator to come and remove the nest. But be warned, they tend to come back and rebuild. I'm sure there must be a way to prevent this.

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 COMMENT 300272 helpful negative off topic

The new 99-Cents Only store in Sant...

2012-07-22 01:14 PM

Frankly, I am dismayed at our 'community'. I went to the new store yesterday, as a person who lives downtown, and I liked what I saw. Tourists need sunscreen, swim noodles, and other beach trinkets, and the $.99 store had them! I like only having to walk 2 blocks to get coffee creamer, milk or butter, and not pay 'convenience store' prices from the local liquor vendors (the only other choice). Rodger's right - there's an adult store across the street, and the old empty Esau's. Blight. We get something the area can use, and you guys poo poo it because it's not Hermes or Dior. Please recognize others live here that might shop at discount stores, and it's ok.

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Lonely Goose

2012-07-22 01:19 PM

how lucky for you, I am jealous...geese are my favorite. Read up on the goose totem!

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 COMMENT 300274 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 01:19 PM

The original posting, and 90% of the comments, are in error as is usually the case in these forums.

The Chromatic Gate - a design of Bauhaus artist/sculptor/photographer Herbert Bayer, who spent his last years in Santa Barbara - is being repaired with private funds donated to the Restore Our Rainbow Committee.

Permanent rust-proofing is not possible; but the next-best "rust-proof" paint costs $500/gallon. This does not come out of your pocket unless you contribute.

I am not particularly a sculpture fan, and in various cities I"ve seen public sculpture that doesn't especiallly appeal to me.

But I would as soon submit selections of public art to a popular vote as I would submit the selection of the Nobel Prize to a popular vote.

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Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 01:25 PM

Paul Cronshaw is the greatest guy. We had a "structural" hive in walls of our 100-year-old redwood house. We didn't even consider killing the bees, or ripping apart the wall.

Took some doing to find Paul. When we used list the County Agricultural Dept gave us, all we got (from 8 bee guys) was talk of pesticides (preferred method!) and/or how we needed to pull apart our walls. $$$.

Paul came w/ "Debbie," his protege. Two nicer people don't exist on the planet. Took a bit, but, meanwhile, we enjoyed our house smelling like honey. Paul & Debbie got bees relocated, none of us got stung.

Now, we wait for the ants to eat the honey, and the wax moths to come and eat the wax. Easy-peasy.

A neighbor had swarms in her mansion; I called Paul on her behalf. She chose to use pesticides, but I kind of expected that of someone who sprays for ants, has no clue about the harm she is doing to herself and her environment.

SAVE THE BEES!

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Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 01:31 PM

Thank you alerting the Santa Barbara City Code Enforcement department. Please turn yourself in at the City Planning office so your government can earn it's rightful due in retroactive fees for your non-conforming structure.

Your friends,

The City of Santa Barbara

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 COMMENT 300277P helpful negative off topic

Senior Alternatives, a Bay Area fir...

2012-07-22 01:33 PM

As long as they don't recommend sending your loved one to Mission Terrace or other facilities owned & operated by Eve & Michael Murphy, I say fine.

Otherwise, watch out!

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 COMMENT 300278 helpful negative off topic

Watch out for the P.O.

2012-07-22 01:34 PM

It sounds awful, but the best treatment for poison oak is to scrub the area until all the blisters pop, then thoroughly clean with isopropyl alcohol. It's not fun, but the next day, you're itch free.

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Lonely Goose

2012-07-22 01:43 PM

No lost mate, this one's just a baby. It was dumped along with a couple ducklings a few months ago, when it still had down on its head.

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Beached Boat

2012-07-22 01:47 PM

My comment is that you don't know if this boat is uninsured or if the owners even realize it has beached. Obviously you are looking for the negative comments so here you go...you must have woken up on the wrong side of the bed today!

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 COMMENT 300281 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 01:52 PM

With all due respect to Herbert Bayer (the artist) and his legacy, the "Chromatic Gate," has never fit in with its surroundings. The geometry, composition and coloration of the piece is at odds with the locale. At best, it seems a misbegotten concept that went too far. Expend funds only for removal, and do not seek to replace it with another politically-charged eyesore. Isn't there enough beauty and spectacle to be found in the backdrops of the Santa Ynez Mountains, the Pacific Ocean and the Channel Islands?

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 COMMENT 300282 helpful negative off topic

Texting At Lunch

2012-07-22 02:05 PM

The mom sounds very self-entitled to me.

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 COMMENT 300283 helpful negative off topic

Meet Max

2012-07-22 02:11 PM

Go find the beach survey, posted on Edhat July 14th. Fill it out and tell Parks Commission you won't pay for parking. All of us who enjoy Hendry's (and Goleta Beach and Summerland and Rincon) had better join forces and make sure our beach access remains FREE.

When I see Max (and you) on Hendry's, we'll say "hi."

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 COMMENT 300284 helpful negative off topic

Fallen Tree

2012-07-22 02:12 PM

Oops.

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 COMMENT 300285 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 02:14 PM

A nod to 281. And the idea of moving it along with those non-historic murals from the former VONS on Victoria Street is very, very good.

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Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 02:17 PM

Don't they have collars for cats that "trigger" the mechanism on a cat door, so that the intruder cat can't have access?

Looks like these two have never worn collars, but I bet they wouldn't mind.

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Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 02:19 PM

Even Mrs. Bayer thought it was an odd selection from his works and questioned the site. (Paul Mills led the project.)
It should go somewhere where it fits in and will be loved.

The Pueblo Viejo now (since the late eighties) has an ordinance re procedures for placing public art in that part of town. Marge Dunlap's "It's Raining" fountain at Las Aves by the bird refuge was the first to go through that procedure.

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 AUNTIE S. helpful negative off topic

Meet Carmel

2012-07-22 02:20 PM

What a beautiful boy. Sounds like Carmel has a harem - Even at 18 he could be pretty frisky. Kittens in your future?

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Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 02:20 PM

Take your cats and settle permanently in one area. And keep all doors and windows either shut and/or screened.

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Beached Boat

2012-07-22 02:21 PM

Wow, 280. Claws sheathed in, please. Uncalled for.

"Fool's Harbor" has got so popular of late, I am surprised we don't see more boats basking on the sand.

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 COMMENT 300291 helpful negative off topic

Dead Body

2012-07-22 02:23 PM

Roger reported at 5:04pm. Still broad daylight.

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 AUNTIE S. helpful negative off topic

Meet Max

2012-07-22 02:26 PM

I think I'm in love! What a nice addition to your family and what a good companion for Everett.

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 AUNTIE S. helpful negative off topic

Goodnight Moon

2012-07-22 02:28 PM

Picture of the Day.

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 COMMENT 300294 helpful negative off topic

Meet Carmel

2012-07-22 02:31 PM

@Auntie S. Please don't encourage anyone to breed their cats. Go out to ASAP during "kitten" season and learn why everyone should spay and neuter their cats.

And, please don't tell me that then there would be no kittens. There will never be a shortage of unwanted yet wonderful, adoptable cats and kittens.

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 AUNTIE S. helpful negative off topic

Kitten Toys

2012-07-22 02:39 PM

Is the little Tuxedo kittie giving uou the raspberrry in the first pic?

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 COMMENT 300296 helpful negative off topic

Beached Boat

2012-07-22 02:40 PM

I'm with 280. The op has no clue about the owners situation, and further, I bet my taxes (which are a LOT) go to pay for things the op enjoys. Pretty lame commentary to say the least. Did you lift a finger to do anything? (no). Did you call the county and advise them of the situation? (no). Betting you aren't even from here.

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Beached Boat

2012-07-22 02:42 PM

Pictures?

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 COMMENT 300298 helpful negative off topic

Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 02:51 PM

286, your idea seems ok, those pet doors are great if you pet is willing to use it. However if the neighbor cat is able to follow one of their cats closely and enter the house it will be trapped inside and that could cause some real problems.

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 COMMENT 300299 helpful negative off topic

In the wake of the Aurora, Colorado...

2012-07-22 02:56 PM

We cannot protect ourselves from Manchurian candidates, now can we?

Aside from that IF we really wanted to protect ourselves we would stop psychiatrists from being pill pushers.

Oddly, the FBI posted and quickly removed a threat and concern that someone was going to create mayhem in a movie theater.

Now go back to sleep please or leave the TV on.

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 COMMENT 300300 helpful negative off topic

Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 02:57 PM

Boy, living 6 months of the year away and having to leave your cats behind is not an enviable position to be in. By leaving them behind with open access for any Tom, Dick or Harry to waltz in and challenge the territorial rights has got to be hard on your girls. It's asking them to go feral 6 months of the year and fend for themselves. Mostly cats can do that but forcing them back and forth is cruel.

It was very kind of you to adopt them but it's kinda selfish to abandon them half the year. Tough position to be in all around.

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 COMMENT 300301 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 02:58 PM

"225" proudly asserts, "We aren't a city of modernism". Is that a GOOD thing?

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 COMMENT 300302 helpful negative off topic

Property Management

2012-07-22 03:02 PM

DP Investments. Hands down the best.

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 COMMENT 300303P helpful negative off topic

Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 03:02 PM

I hereby volunteer to live in your french cottage for the six months you are not there. I will take impeccable care of your two kitties and be vigilant about intruders!

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 AUNTIE S. helpful negative off topic

Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 03:07 PM

They are beautiful kitties. Better move back to Provence permanently. (There are worse things to do).

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 COMMENT 300305 helpful negative off topic

Fallen Tree

2012-07-22 03:10 PM

Dang those Cottage Helicopters ;) lol

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 AUNTIE S. helpful negative off topic

Fiona Flamingo

2012-07-22 03:13 PM

Yes.

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 GBOB helpful negative off topic

Property Management

2012-07-22 03:14 PM

We're in a 40-unit association, and for the past half-dozen years we've had Sandra Foehl managing. She's good, reasonable, and knows her stuff. We've been VERY happy with her.

She's also been working for a much larger group that has been going through major renovation and repair of 50+-year-old construction, so she can handle more than just the day-to-day operations.

sfoehl@msn.com

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 COMMENT 300308 helpful negative off topic

Texting At Lunch

2012-07-22 03:18 PM

How about saying to her "Mom, you say we don't spend enough time together, yet now that we are together you're sitting there texting instead of spending your time with me, and it's hardly the first time".

As for all those saying that mom is rude ... what's your point? The OP didn't ask if their mom is rude, and pointing it out provides no help.

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 03:20 PM

2 Transported to the hospital one AMA.

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 GBOB helpful negative off topic

Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 03:23 PM

Beekeeper Andrew West, awest@djthrifty.com. Member of the Beekeepers Association. Any member of the group will handle your bees at no charge.

Chances are your garden shed is NOT violating any ordinances, and if it were, City inspectors have many more serious "crimes" to investigate.

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Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 03:23 PM

Take care of all the kitties even the unwanted ones that is what I do, loveable balls of fur. Beautiful cats by the way.

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Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 03:27 PM

What "latest news report"? Why does everyone accept the claim without question?

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 COMMENT 300313 helpful negative off topic

The Colorado shooting is sending sh...

2012-07-22 03:39 PM

The question of how much coverage something "deserves" really isn't relevant, and how much coverage something gets does not show anything about individual attitudes. Which individuals? The statement makes no sense at all considering what that word means.

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 COMMENT 300314 helpful negative off topic

Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 03:40 PM

What beautiful animals. I would be worried sick if I had to leave them to the mercies of the world for six months each year. I may sound unsympathetic but I do believe if one cannot be consistantly and personally responsible for one's beloved pets it would be kinder to the animals not to have them in the first place. One cannot assume or rely on strangers to give children or pets the same love and attention as their own parents or owners.

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 COMMENT 300315 helpful negative off topic

Arthur Hicks had never seen the mov...

2012-07-22 03:45 PM

@300123

Your inference is completely invalid. I myself am quite interested in the Tuskugee Airmen but have no comment to make about this article. And apparently neither do you, for that matter ...

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 03:48 PM

Copter 308 also responding.

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 COMMENT 300317 helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 03:49 PM

I was up there yesterday and there was a full recue heading back. Helicoptor and everyone else.

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 03:58 PM

That was for someone that was a mile up from the trailhead an ill hiker.

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 COMMENT 300319 helpful negative off topic

Beached Boat

2012-07-22 04:13 PM

I find this thread very interesting as it sounds like the OP wants to pick and choose who merits public attention and who doesn't. If it was a house burning s/he would, surely, not object to the local fire dept deploying to fight the blaze. Or if the boat's owner, rather than their anchor slipping, had been in the middle of an massive pile up on the fwy would surely merit the public assistance everyone affected would receive. Yet, in this situation their loss is grounds for disdain and judgement. That seems odd to me.

Are we so polarized with such a strict caste system that only some folks deserve public assistance while others don't?

"Oh sorry, you were in an accident last year, no jaws of life for you!"

"You let your house burn down 3 years ago, we're not sending police to respond to your call about an intruder."

"You got a DUI last year and now you want us to believe your call about a rape?"

Tell me we're not heading in that direction.

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Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 04:37 PM

Comparing Nobel Prize qualifications to what a community wants to see in their home town is false equivalency so egregious and blatantly absurd, that I am stunned.

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Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 04:50 PM

I was there recently and photographed some guys jumping off. That's a long way to the water! I hope the injuries are manageable. Maybe I'm just old and boring but I have to say its a really bad idea to make that jump. Either bad aim or bad body position can change (or end) your life forever.

Best wishes to the victim :-/

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 COMMENT 300322P helpful negative off topic

Self-Service Garage Sale

2012-07-22 05:03 PM

The "sold" sign makes me think that someone's having to move -- perhaps a short sale, and has to downsize to do it. Some of us really hate haggling and garage sales, so doing it on the honor system sure is tempting...

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 COMMENT 300323P helpful negative off topic

Fiona Flamingo

2012-07-22 05:06 PM

Gerald Durrell is my favorite author. What a lovely way to grow up, regularly visiting the zoo, the beach, and learning so much from nature. Get away from your computer. Go outside! It's lovely.

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 COMMENT 300324 helpful negative off topic

Kitten Toys

2012-07-22 05:07 PM

So glad you are having fun with them! Paper bags, the classic. Ping pong balls in the bathtub - hours of entertainment!

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 05:10 PM

I'm glad I'm not young anymore..

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 COMMENT 300326 helpful negative off topic

Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 05:19 PM

Borrow or rent a friends Dog for a night

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 COMMENT 300327 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 05:23 PM

It's too bad the City of Santa Barbara is so broke... They have Public Works employees HAND PICKING weeds because you can't use Round-up, and they are willing to PAY $80,000 to paint a politically correct "rainbow" statue to let all know we are a liberal and gay friendly town! LOL
It costs A LOT OF MONEY TO REMAIN "STYLISH..."

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 COMMENT 300328 helpful negative off topic

Phone Wiring Technician

2012-07-22 05:27 PM

Vision Communications. 1400 Block of State St. Long time local company, great people.

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 COMMENT 300329 helpful negative off topic

Beached Boat

2012-07-22 05:35 PM

Fool's Harbor is called that for a reason. Tough place to anchor, many anchors don't hold well on that bottom, many boaters don't really know how to set an anchor, and it is unprotected. There is a difference between "accidents" and readily avoidable problems. So yes, there may be unusual circumstances, but if someone drives a car knowing the brakes don't work, and crashes, I don't call that an accident, and I don't want my tax dollars funding this kind of stupidity.

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 GREG helpful negative off topic

Senior Alternatives, a Bay Area fir...

2012-07-22 05:36 PM

My Mom while undergoing chemotherapy was recovering at Mission Terrace and was cared for more than adequately. I was there daily however overseeing that optimal care was provided. The food and cleanliness of MT was better than one would expect. Staffing everywhere in most businesses is not ideal - but I was impressed how Eve was there overseeing the ship, often in the morning and evenings. MT is an easy target that deserves more respect.

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Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 05:45 PM

Herbert Bayer was an esteemed artist and though for years I found the arch seemingly out of place, I now like it for its unexpectedness. The arch makes one think about it, for better or worse. Nothing is as simple as it seems; there are probably important components that make this repainting costly - insurance, special paints, expertise to make certain that the painting isn't just slapped on. Thanks to donors for refinishing this work. For certain there are other worse architectural uglies that have been permitted.

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Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 05:46 PM

AMA = American Medical Association?

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 COMMENT 300333 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 05:50 PM

We ARE in SB, right? Comments sound like they emanate from some backward, time-warped hick town. Let the moths out of your mind.

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Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 05:58 PM

I knew I would read some criticism of ex-pats leaving their pets for half a year. But it is true that many ex-pats do have animals and somehow make arrangements for their cats left behind for a period. At least the cats have a homing place to feel their own. This is not an arrangement that would work with dogs, unless on a farm or large area, certainly not an apartment.

As cats are independent and smart, they will accept this type of life, until something better comes their way. They are very smart animals.

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Kitten Toys

2012-07-22 06:05 PM

Shadow was the name of my B&W cat although Shade has a nice ring to it too.

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Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 06:05 PM

I feel for you. Thank you for being so kind to these animals. Some snarky comments might come your way. If my wife and I had handled finances differently, we would have loved to house-sit for you. Sometimes, all you an do is your imperfect best.

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Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 06:06 PM

@327: The ugly rainbow arch has nothing to do with gay pride. Read the above-posted link by EDHAT ONLINE. I think any self-respecting gay person would dismiss the arch as the zenith of tackiness.

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 LEAH helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 06:07 PM

Was involved in this accident, car was turning left and fourth car in lineup failed to stop. Very lucky to not be injured. Total damage to two vehicles, mine is only minorly hurt.

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 LEAH helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 06:08 PM

P.S. Many thanks to County Fire and CHP for their diligent and prompt response.

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 COMMENT 300340 helpful negative off topic

Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 06:13 PM

Either (a) Dog or (b) Hammer.

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 COMMENT 300341 helpful negative off topic

Planes, Trains, Surfboards and Summ...

2012-07-22 06:16 PM

In your description of the three residential communities that have been built on the Hammonds' property, you have mixed up the names. Bonnymede is the community closest to the Coral Casino and Olive Mill Road. Moving west along the coast, Montecito Shores is adjacent to Bonnymede, followed by Sea Meadow which ends at Eucalyptus Lane.

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Beached Boat

2012-07-22 06:23 PM

Maybe we should decide the owners of the boat were drunk and drove the boat through the OP's hood before it came to rest on the beach. You know, from the tire marks. :)

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Watch out for the P.O.

2012-07-22 06:28 PM

Actually, that's one of the worst things you can do to "cure" poison oak or ivy.

Rubbing vigorously will only spread the oils and cause your aching skin to react further. That's some of the worst advice of all time. The best thing you can do is loosely cover the area to isolate the oils (they stay on your skin and ooze out which can cause cross-contamination to other parts of the body that didn't originally touch the plant or oils.) Icing the area is good too, and so is taking anti-inflammatory meds.

But scrubbing til the sore skin pops? Ummm, no. Skin infections will happen and this is just awful advice.

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 LOUWHO? helpful negative off topic

Fiona Flamingo

2012-07-22 06:28 PM

Please keep the Fiona updates coming. Enjoy all these outings with Fiona while you can!!! They grow up so fast. She is so lucky to have such involved parents!

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 COMMENT 300345 helpful negative off topic

A homeless man who authorities susp...

2012-07-22 06:30 PM

Hollyweird. Oh, 901, you're hilarious. I laughed so hard. You're funny.

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Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 06:34 PM

I heard that one yesterday on our scanner: a mile up the trail head, dehydration. My thought is: too much partying the night before, and not enough PRE-hydration that morning. It gets mega-hot back there, be prepared!

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 06:46 PM

I worked up there one picking lemons when I was houseless thought I was gonna die..It was like 120 plus!

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Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 06:48 PM

AMA Aganist Medical Advice, Glad your OK Leah..

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 COMMENT 300350 helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 06:55 PM

Using the helicopter for dehydrated hikers is overkill and not a safe use of a helicopter.

I have EMS and triage experience and know of what I speak.

The use of the helicopter evacuations for the close-in back country cases lately are ridiculous.

I'm waiting for our first helicopter accident / crash /fatality to bring some sense and oversight to THIS community. That's what it will take to get some level heads looking at this over-use of helicopter transport to Cottage for any little complaint.

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 YIN YANG helpful negative off topic

Watch out for the P.O.

2012-07-22 06:55 PM

Had it pretty bad twice; First time bad enough to ooze, I scratched in my sleep, had to get ointment from doc; 2nd time I went home at lunch to shower.

The hot water treatment truly works great! The person who told me about it described it as a "white light" experience/sensation. And I mean HOT. You'll be close to having an out of body experience or at least crawling out of your skin and be lobster red. It will numb the nerve endings for hours. True relief.

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 COMMENT 300352P helpful negative off topic

An estimated 40,000 adults in Santa...

2012-07-22 07:02 PM

Are you people serious with your comments that people who can't afford to live here should move?? Good luck finding someone to serve your coffee, clean your office building, or work at your favorite non-profit agency.

Your solution is to have thousands and thousands of people commute over 45 minutes? Rather than fix the problem locally so that more people can live here comfortably? Horrible, horrible idea.

I have 2 master's degrees and don't make enough to support myself and my child in Santa Barbara on my own. I work in the mental health field - obviously essential to the community. So based on your logic I should have to live in Lompoc??

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 COMMENT 300354 helpful negative off topic

Meet Carmel

2012-07-22 07:02 PM

Owner here, Carmel is neutered, and our lady cats are spayed...Carmel is wonderful. He sleeps on my pillow at night and purrs, even in his sleep. I am honored by the kind words about him here...thank you!

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Roger The Scanner Guy

2012-07-22 07:09 PM

@154

None of us are going to make it out of this world alive. Use common sense, be nice, and take advantage of every day that life has to offer.

Now, how that sail boat bumped into the pier is beyond me. All the people on it I would say were in their 20's (I was there) but did not see anyone except the lifeguard driving his pickup on the beach like it was the end of the world in distress. I'm glad that no kids were run over, a couple of close calls though.

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Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 07:15 PM

350 I think based on the minimal info we have regarding the injuries it's difficult to know. They have to make that decision based on what they see when they get there. From our point of view not knowing all the details it may seem like overkill, but when you actually know the extent of injuries it may be necessary.

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Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 07:15 PM

Build an outside cat enclosure that encompasses the cat door. There is no solution to others using a cat door other than fencing it in or locking it closed. Well, the collar /door system, as 286 suggested. But you need someone to monitor that once you start it, for the safety of the cats. And it has to be a breakaway collar. You may have wild animals using the cat door too. Beautiful cats; good luck!

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 COMMENT 300359 helpful negative off topic

Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 07:18 PM

Look, it brightens the day of our transient guests. Both the well-heeled transient guests staying at the hotel across the street and the downtrodden who enjoy the free ocean breezes as they sit in the park and enjoy the warm comraderie of their fellow travelers. It returns so much joy, it is worth a million dollars.

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 D8VANILLA helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 07:19 PM

Even if you jump "feet" first, you can sustain major damage on impact. This happened to some guy about 15yrs ago. He ended up temporarily paralyzed and almost drowned. Spent about a month in the hospital. I remember that the Newspress reported it incorrectly, and radio station KTYD Matt McMallister called the guy at the hospital and did a phone interview with him.... Matt did the best phone interviews of anyone I've heard.

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Chromatic Gate $$

2012-07-22 07:30 PM

Save the $80K & bulldoze the Gate.

Sell the scrap off for some big bucks, plant some killer pansies in the spot, & move on with enjoying the beach area.

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 COMMENT 300362 helpful negative off topic

Cat Conundrum

2012-07-22 07:34 PM

We had the same situation. I found a trusted friend who was living in a communal situation to come in and live in our home while we were absent AND love and take care of my pet until we returned. It was a win, win for everyone! She had her own space and our pet didn't feel abandoned and we didn't have to worry about him.

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 COMMENT 300363 helpful negative off topic

Lonely Goose

2012-07-22 07:41 PM

Maybe someone can give it a loving home. Can you report it to the Animal Control and see if they can rescue it? They make wonderful pets and this one is obviously tame.

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 COMMENT 300364 helpful negative off topic

Meet Max

2012-07-22 07:48 PM

He is gorgeous!!! How wonderful for your family to have such a terrific companion.

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 COMMENT 300365 helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 08:00 PM

They may need to close that area again, or revoke right to pass if people cant be more responsible. I don't think our tax dollars (rescue, fire responders etc) should be wasted to save people from their own stupidity.

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 COMMENT 300367 helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 08:10 PM

365 - I don't suppose alcohol might have been involved? There might be an alternative to shutting it down altogether.

350 - I wonder what Cottage charges for each helicopter landing? Saving lives is one thing and hefty claims to the insurance companies is another. I hope the kid from Paso Robles last week pulled through. The odd thing is that I don't recall reading in the past few years about all the people in the tri-counties who did not make it because they could not get to the hospital fast enough. Having worked in the health care industry, what hides behind the mission of 'saving lives' is all about money.

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Beached Boat

2012-07-22 08:23 PM

Other than the fact that it is beached, I didn't see any facts about the circumstances of the boat washing up or what will be done about it. So stop speculating. It's ugly in light of the subject. Sailboats were in our earliest dreams, but not everyone who had that dream can afford the outrageously costly Santa Barbara slip. Whatever the scenario is with the boat, my sympathies to the owner for the possible loss of their boat. If anyone knows them, and they need labor help with removal, have them post on here, I'd help if I can.

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The Colorado shooting is sending sh...

2012-07-22 08:31 PM

Netflix is sounding better and better.

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Property Management

2012-07-22 08:33 PM

OP here -- many thanks for these friendly and knowledgeable responses! We are in the 20-25 unit range and have been an association for 40+ years, so we're aware of who we are and what's involved. Though we appreciate the expertise of advisors, we aren't debating about our operating model, only mulling over a management shift. The recommendations and cautions on individuals and outfits you've encountered are what I needed, and thank you all again.

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Busy Bee Hive

2012-07-22 08:38 PM

Best to lose the exterminator's number. I have seen them blast bees with pressurized poison. So monsanto!

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The Colorado shooting is sending sh...

2012-07-22 08:43 PM

Be afraid. Stay home. Life is dangerous and you WILL not survive, so enjoy the movie and life. Your choice.

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Just Walkin' The Beach

2012-07-22 08:43 PM

My first job as a 19 year old was a housekeeper (maid)
at the Miramar. Many stories, old actors, suicides,
affairs.......and of course scary Jacques.

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Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 08:44 PM

She is 8 years old her name is Maria...I missed the rest of the discription. She was last seen around 1000 Steps aprox 45 minutes ago.

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 COMMENT 300375 helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 08:44 PM

365....If first responders shouldn't be allowed to save people from their own stupidity, they would have nothing to do. 350....Really, you have EMS experience? Then you would know that dehydration can be a serious medical emergency and can lead to death. It's so easy from edhat to complain this, but when you are the one in the predicament, or it is your family member, you might think different. You have to imagine yourself up **it creek, lost, injured, upside down in your car, stung by a bee and having allergic reaction, what would you want? A curtailed response by EMS because you are a "burden" on the tax payer? Only in the USA would we complain about our EMS system doing too much. Go to a third world country, they have low/no taxes, and no 911. To the world of edhatters.....you must accept our EMS/Rescue services for what they are, not perfect, but always working hard to serve the community.

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 COMMENT 300376 helpful negative off topic

Transition House is succeeding in f...

2012-07-22 08:47 PM

Are they given family planning -birth control-information and supplies since they are having trouble supporting the families they already have? I hope so as having children is an expensive decision.

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Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 08:47 PM

Harbor Patrol is crusing the beach looking for the child. As SBPD covers other places in the area usually by searching this way they usually find the missing person pretty quick..

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 08:54 PM

SBPD Checking the beach..Should be a large presence of police in the area.

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 08:58 PM

Child is visiting from Spain speaks linited english.

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 COMMENT 300380 helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 08:59 PM

I hope it's not the same little girl that went missing at Shoreline on the 4th of July! How do you lose your 8 year old?

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Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 08:59 PM

350, you remind me of some of the know-it-all rescuers I worked with during my 20+ years in fire/rescue, emergency medicine. Just because you know something doesn't mean you're qualified to judge every situation without the facts. That's a dangerous and irresponsible attitude.

Were you aware the dehydrated hiker was 78 years old? He was airlifted to safety and his younger, stronger companion (also showing signs of dehydration) was rescued by ground.

I am grateful we have a pretty damned good system available if I ever need them. It's not perfect but what is?

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 09:00 PM

Opps posted in wrong thread. Girl is visiting from Spain speaks limited english.

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 09:00 PM

She might be found not sure hope so on Los Ondos..

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 09:01 PM

Yep it's her little girl has been found...:)

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 ROGER DODGER helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 09:02 PM

They walk away in the blink of an eye.

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 BULLSEYEB helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 09:07 PM

I hope this little girl is found right away. How terrifying for all involved!

@380: You'd be surprised how quickly this could happen. It does not necessarily mean that the parent(s) were not watching either. Please reserve judgement until we hear all the details.

Update as you can, Roger! Thanks.

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Lonely Goose

2012-07-22 09:08 PM

thanks 279, I heard that story from a frequent LLC walker and assumed it was the same goose.

363, I have no idea if it was dumped there, born there or wandered in on its own. Pretty much all the ducks and geese there get fed by humans and thus become somewhat tame. It didn't seem to be in distress so I think calling for a rescue is unnecessary at this time.

273, I looked up goose totem. cool :-)

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 BULLSEYEB helpful negative off topic

Sunday Brunch

2012-07-22 09:09 PM

Beautiful photo!

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 COMMENT 300389P helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 09:15 PM

The NP said today that it was a 78 year old man who was severely dehydrated hiking with a friend who was also slightly dehydrated.

I'd say this was a good use of the helicopter!

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 BULLSEYEB helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 09:18 PM

Oh yay! So glad she was found!

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Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 09:19 PM

350 sounds like the same ex-"triage experienced" person who jumped to absurd conclusions with the girl with the compound fracture earlier in the month. It sounds like no judgment skills resulted from the experience, and we can be grateful this person is no longer in the system.

And, as with every fire/police/public servant story, we can expect the tea baggers to whine about taxes like they're shouldering the burden alone.

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 COMMENT 300392P helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 10:36 PM

Thank God that she was found so quickly! Very scary for the family.

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 COMMENT 300393P helpful negative off topic

Roger Code Red

2012-07-22 10:46 PM

Since they were dehydrated and not injured why not simply drop
water containers to them?

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 COMMENT 300394P helpful negative off topic

Fiona Flamingo

2012-07-22 10:50 PM

Yes. And who's Fiona?

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 FLICKA helpful negative off topic

Just Walkin' The Beach

2012-07-22 11:05 PM

Grover was dearly loved by the neighborhood children, Jacques dispised. Grover was also loved by the Miramar owners, the Gawzners. Mark Bennett made the movie, premier at Westmont during a downpour rain storm. Mark grew up across the freeway from the Miramar in a beautiful adobe home his parents built; they made every brick (each weighed 45 lbs) and put an adobe wall around the property (took them 17 years). Mom still lives there. It's 11pm Sunday, hope the UHs get a chance to read this.

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